no, not really. i mean it looks fine on stages that are supposed to have synthenic lightning like for instance chemical plant, there it really shines (pun unintended), but the rest suffers from summer/morning light syndrome which is blinding and makes me wish there were more sonic stages set in forests, autumn, nights, and sunsets.
stagedesign and missionstructure in shadow are not so bad. what kinda makes it not fun is how they are kinda just glued together. like,you gotta trigger all bombs in that dang level and not just a few. and sometimes you need to get minuspoints for your route since enemys with your alignment need to be defeated to get nessesary springs and such
See I wouldn't mind Sonic Team reusing levels if they were from all over Sonic's history like this and Generations. There has been so many iconic Sonic levels that would be dope in HD and with the boost formula, other than Green Hill Zone and Chemical Plant Zone.
Ikr when I first heard about generations before it came out that's what I thought it was gonna be, a collection of ported, remastered and some remade stages, you can bet I was a little disappointed there were only 9 :/
Yes it exist its even in the original games files its just remains unused. I guess timing wasn't Boosting like a Maniac enough for Nakamura.(I so hope I didn't get the developers mixed up here)
@@crisdebo Not that I could recall anytime I saw it and before I even wrote this thing did I already read in the comment section of a few other Forces level mods that use this thing that it went unused in the finished game. So if it actually was used anywhere could you perhaps say were it was?
porque usted esta chetado? pillin :y siento que si combinaran la historia de shadow del apocalipsis y de forces con infinite y el avatar se siente genial, salvar el mundo con la resistencia. le da un toque.
@@irregular_breadstick U clearly didn't if u said there recycling stages. The point is if they had level design like Heroes. There's nothing wrong with having levels DESIGNED like another game
@@bobbywilliams1128 I'm not trying to say that the mod is bad or anything I'm just saying that people would hate it in the game because of how people like to bash on sonic for the smallest details.
funny how we (me included) dont like the boosting like a maniac mentality sonic forces was shittily built on *but* the first lvl is a mix of a bit of caution, skill, and boosting which makes me wonder why forces wasnt like the 1st lvl in this video. u have the boosting kids love and u have not bottom of the barrel simple like the forces we got. this is a perfect mix IMO kids can boost glide over the stages if they want and people like me can explore and take out *every* enemy
Damn, with the stage remakes like the adventure ocean level, it really proves it did not need boost at all to be fast or fun. Boost actually makes the stage worse in this case
Funny part was when the custom character was walking and running in the air. Sonic: They wont know what hit them*gets hit*Sonic: Watch Out Youre Gonna Crash*crashes into wall, has to use hacks to get back on the stage*Orca chases sonic down boardwalk and destroys itBoardwalk: RespawnsEspio: Don't slip up or it could be lights out for youWell of course its lava, but unlike sonic he only looses his rings instead of burning 10:56 Hitboxes at its finestBad reaction time
The levels looks rather fun but the voice lines do catch my attention as well. I may have bad memory or something but I'm not sure I've heard some of these lines in forces.
What would make up for sonic forces is if they made the ultimate sonic game. Sonic forces 2 1) Better combat 2) Better customization (including adjusting the height of your character) 3) Cac fights like sonic/ shadow (no need of a wispon) 4) Bring all bosses from the sonic games back with new ones but the main one will be Nazo 5) Have sonic and shadow discover a new pair of rings that allows them to make Shadic (super Shadic/ hyper Shadic) 6) Have a classic version of everyone come help including a classic version of your cac 7) Have levels and areas strictly for your character only and others with others. (Everyone has a part. Cac story with all the levels and bosses they face, sonic story with all the levels and bosses he fights, etc and make them challenging) 8) Cac hedgehog can use boost and zip a collect rings like sonic/ Shadow and also go super like them too (basically the hedgehog is like the Saiyan race in XenoVerse) 9) Make your character new (Have a new cac joining the sonic forces fighting along side your old cac) 10) Add in a sonic heroes gameplay in ( with 3 characters you can swap from) depending on who your cac is will depend on if you're a speed, power, or fly type. Will be listed at the bottom. 11) MAKE TAILS USEFUL AND NOT LAME 12) Make some complicated boss battles that actually takes some effort to beat 13) Online pvp 14) Online boss fights (story mode bosses and some that wasn't in the game to make it more interesting) 15) Make skills/ abilities and ultimates for both original characters and cac to boost gameplay and add unlockable skills that you can learn from levels, original characters, and leveling up. The most important one 16) Actually take your time to finish the game and not rush so you can release the perfect game. The hedgehog will be a speed type (the fastest) Bunny and bird will be a fly type (the second fastest) Others will be a power type. Feel free to add on
There's a large amount of new level design here for a start and I was referring to current Sonic Team, the guys that made Forces. This isn't their work.
@@Wbubbles3998 Every single stage here was either ported or edited the stage layout. The ported stages weren't even that good (-minus that first one from Shadow the Hedgehog.)
I have a problem with my hedgemodmanager. Every time I change mods, it delete my save file and I must ALL complete ONE MORE TIME !! Can someone help me ?
... I'm damned: that didn't change a thing. Fortunately, I have the the forces mod installer, I can't load the ring boost gauge and when I want to deactivate a mod, I need to deactivate them all. But thanks anyway 😊. Nb: do you think, with some modifications, it's possible to use sonicGMI for forces ?
@@gravitybreaker1 forgot what I said, it's actually work ! I don't really know why but I think that's 'cause I played with the "save backup" button and "load backup" button with no knowledge about the program (I also replaced the backup with my save "normal" file and because I have the steam version of sonic forces... Goodbye savefiles 😢.) Thank you for your help !!😄
@@ucky9226 its kind of impossible to use SonicGMI on Forces. Just like it says, "Sonic *Generations* mod installer", so no, you can't use SGMI anywhere else except Gens
@@cadetw1376 I already know that, I thought with modifications it was possible to adapt the program by changing code or file, at least, I think I just tried to ignore the truth (and I'm sorry for this and don't hesitate to correct me because I am almost sure I made mistakes and I want to be better in english). Anyway, I don't know how but I fixed it and I can use the hedgemod manager correctly but that's the first time I see this and that suprised me (but not in the good way). Thank you !
@@dizzydaisy909 So far, modding for this game is extremely limited. The PC version is also pretty hard to handle, controls-wise. But other than that, just adding better assets for an HD-UI or better textures makes the game crash and become unplayable at certain levels. And besides that, Shadow the Hedgehog doesn't only consist of Assets/Textures; you also need to have 3D-models, specific game mechanics, items, cutscenes, menus, enemies, AI, game modes, stages and more. Just putting some assets into a game doesn't do the trick.
Can't SEGA just remake this good (yet disappointing to some) game? Like the vanilla game is about as good as unleashed (so mediocre) so why not a remake? What is this is just a demo?
I heard that these mods aren't played and are harshly criticized by the judges because it was Sonic Forces.
So unfair and a very a-hole move of them :/
Huh, so the judges really are biased af.
Damn, feels bad😕
So did the community call them out on it?
Heard from who?
Holy crap if only the real game came out like this!!!!!!!
Yeah I love these more open stages
Yeah!!
Same
Nah ppl without have said the game was too empty...
Sonic: They won’t know what hit em!
*He INsTantlY Gets HiT By A PhaNtOm WaVe*
The Sonic forces light system is actually beautiful.
The Hedgehog engine 2 is very good
no, not really. i mean it looks fine on stages that are supposed to have synthenic lightning like for instance chemical plant, there it really shines (pun unintended), but the rest suffers from summer/morning light syndrome which is blinding and makes me wish there were more sonic stages set in forests, autumn, nights, and sunsets.
It always has been tf
@@Marco-uq6nw If they recreate Sonic Adventure with that engine too, we'll get at least a very good looking game, that should also be easy to mod :D
For looks he2 is better, for glitches he2 fixes more for the better or worse for illusion of OPness while still having control he1 is better
Oh my God.. that re work of network terminal. Adding completely new areas or making off camera segments playable creating more open levels.
Please!!!!
The reason Tails hasn't been playable in a game since 06 is because Sonic is now both a speed and flight character
What about sonic boom
@@marmex9912 Spinoffs don't count
@@Metatronio Sonic Mania, Sonic 4 Episode II (kind of)
@@finalgodhanbeast5971 3D games only
Lol ur right
Wait a minute, this isn’t metropolitan highway..........this is just
*GRAND METROPOLIS*
Nice
*sings grand metropolis theme in Patrick like voice*
Love the radical soda reference
I was waiting for that joke xD 👌
Yeah. Yeah. YEAH. YEAH IT IS
Say what you want about the game but Shadow the Hedgehog had some coolest stages
space gadget is neat
Digital Circuit would be great in Forces, even though it's not my favorite stage
And OST
stagedesign and missionstructure in shadow are not so bad. what kinda makes it not fun is how they are kinda just glued together. like,you gotta trigger all bombs in that dang level and not just a few. and sometimes you need to get minuspoints for your route since enemys with your alignment need to be defeated to get nessesary springs and such
There really should be a project to replace the default levels with ones that has a better level design.
I wish it worked on switch lol
Basically Sonic Forces Overclocked?
Sonic Forces Reimagined
See I wouldn't mind Sonic Team reusing levels if they were from all over Sonic's history like this and Generations. There has been so many iconic Sonic levels that would be dope in HD and with the boost formula, other than Green Hill Zone and Chemical Plant Zone.
Ikr when I first heard about generations before it came out that's what I thought it was gonna be, a collection of ported, remastered and some remade stages, you can bet I was a little disappointed there were only 9 :/
The only thing that annoy me is that avatar character keep walking even thought he's in mid air...
It's unfinished work like that which bothers all of us.
maybe he just likes to do that... I mean come on if you could do that you'd probably do it a lot too
Dude its Michael Jackson havnt u heard? His new hit dance is the "air walk" 😂 sorry
think of it as what knuckles did in the ova movie. Air Walking.
Shadow the Hedgehog is such an underrated game imo
I agree!!
this is from sonic heroes though... and i agree
f r i c k lava shelter is from shadow
that game is a guilty pleassure (atleast for me)
Yes. So is heroes. I love both
Who would've thought forces would look really good if the level types actually took advantage of it.
this should've been the REAL sonic forces, cause this right here, looks incredible!
megustA el Bideo
So this is the first time I looked up Sonic Forces mods and 0:58 WAIT THIS EXISTS?
Yes it exist its even in the original games files its just remains unused.
I guess timing wasn't Boosting like a Maniac enough for Nakamura.(I so hope I didn't get the developers mixed up here)
Ryno Behnke I’m pretty sure it was used once in the base game
@@crisdebo Not that I could recall anytime I saw it and before I even wrote this thing did I already read in the comment section of a few other Forces level mods that use this thing that it went unused in the finished game.
So if it actually was used anywhere could you perhaps say were it was?
@@crisdebo Sadly, it wasn't used.
They should’ve used this in the actual game but it’s unused
Ahhh man Grand Metropolis brought back so much nostalgia just now 😔 oh how I love Sonic Heroes 🔥
Wait a minute, this isn't Sonic Forces! This is just...
Grand Metropolis!
Another cultured Radicalsoda fan I see
I tip my fedora to thee
13:52 Now why, I wonder, would Sega cut this line out of the game??
That would be a self-criticism
1:24 just casually running through the sky
Who needs Knuckles' gliding, we've got Forces' Boost
Oh thank god they made metropolis more green
When fans make better levels than the ones who were PAYED to make the levels
DO NOT ATTACK OUR SOLDIERS
Sega needs to hire these modders
ToonSkunk Gamer that depends on if the modern have th skill required to make a sonic game
But I mean judging by this I think there good
@Pure
Did you..... Just pretend that Mania doesn't exist?
If only someone could make a mod where sonic ahas the light speed dash. I miss this thing so much.
Mapped to what button?
Sonic's air boost in forces is crazy but I love it for some reason.
The avatars ability to use chaos control certainly came in handy ! Lol
Amy: "so far so good."
Me:"thats what he said
porque usted esta chetado? pillin :y
siento que si combinaran la historia de shadow del apocalipsis y de forces con infinite y el avatar se siente genial, salvar el mundo con la resistencia. le da un toque.
I still look back at this and think. Why couldn't we get this.
Better level design really could have gone a long way with Forces.
1:20 this is why sonic forces is a hold x to win game
Grand Metropolis's level design really fits for Forces controls...IF ONLY THEY MADE THE ACTUAL GAME LIKE THIS!!!!!
Then the game would be hated even more and be called lazy for recycling stages.
@@irregular_breadstick I said the level design. Not the actual stages themselves
@@bobbywilliams1128 I know that.
@@irregular_breadstick U clearly didn't if u said there recycling stages. The point is if they had level design like Heroes. There's nothing wrong with having levels DESIGNED like another game
@@bobbywilliams1128 I'm not trying to say that the mod is bad or anything I'm just saying that people would hate it in the game because of how people like to bash on sonic for the smallest details.
Can we all agree that Sonic forces could have been better 🙄😶
funny how we (me included) dont like the boosting like a maniac mentality sonic forces was shittily built on *but* the first lvl is a mix of a bit of caution, skill, and boosting which makes me wonder why forces wasnt like the 1st lvl in this video. u have the boosting kids love and u have not bottom of the barrel simple like the forces we got. this is a perfect mix IMO kids can boost glide over the stages if they want and people like me can explore and take out *every* enemy
Damn, with the stage remakes like the adventure ocean level, it really proves it did not need boost at all to be fast or fun. Boost actually makes the stage worse in this case
I’m satisfied with forces actually, the game may be mediocre but look at all this power we’ve got now
I see what you did there on Lava Shelter with Knuckles. Wouldn"t Cosmic Fall have made more sense though?
They’re showing off the lava shelter mod
Can we get a 3D Sonic game made by fans now
Because compared to vanilla Forces, this is awesome!
@7:16
Sonic: " dont tell me.."
* killer whale shows *
Sonic: " ahh @#$% here we go again "
These stages are great! I would love to see Emerald Coast reworked to fit sonics model seeing a low poly stage with a current gen model seems off
Hope you won that hacking contest. Didnt even know there was a thing.
That Sonic Adventure stage was awesome
Wow, that look very amazing mod levels.
honestly seeing SA1 furst level remastered put a smile on my face. ahhhhh the giod times.
When you like boosting so much you just add a mod for infinite boost.
It's because I hate the boost system in this game
XavierClanck Irony.
@@XavierClanck it's just the colors system
@@thelookingcat takes away any remaining challenge though
I haven't seen much forces Mods but Damn do the levels look so vibrant and detailed.
I love that Emerald Coast looks as broken as the original!
the 4th level actually looked fun and playable
Where are these custom lines coming from are they just in the game and they just didn't use them in the end?
Some of them are taken from other games and some are just taken from other stages
I feel bad for SEGA right now.
Me too
Funny part was when the custom character was walking and running in the air. Sonic: They wont know what hit them*gets hit*Sonic: Watch Out Youre Gonna Crash*crashes into wall, has to use hacks to get back on the stage*Orca chases sonic down boardwalk and destroys itBoardwalk: RespawnsEspio: Don't slip up or it could be lights out for youWell of course its lava, but unlike sonic he only looses his rings instead of burning 10:56 Hitboxes at its finestBad reaction time
i just realized the size of the stages and the distance sonic can travel in a second is too much in sonic forces
The levels looks rather fun but the voice lines do catch my attention as well. I may have bad memory or something but I'm not sure I've heard some of these lines in forces.
Man some of these mods are so creative man I wish I can make mods like these
Grand metropolis is awesome!
IF ANYONE SAYS ANYMORE BAD COMMENTS ON HOW BAD THIS GAME IS THOSE BAD COMMENTS WILL BE REPORTED GOT IT! >:/
Who the fuck cares
Lava shelter is my favorite mod that they put in this also I have shadow the hedgehog and the music is good
Fitting to have Rookie gameplay in Shadow level.
During the Lava Shelter Level, are those in game lines or where those made up? Because I don’t remember anything like those lines being said at all.
Those are lines from Sonic Forces being reused in these custom stages.
The Stages you should be in the sequel if it even gets one
I CAN’T DECIDE WHICH IS BEST!
Are these mods?
What would make up for sonic forces is if they made the ultimate sonic game.
Sonic forces 2
1) Better combat
2) Better customization (including adjusting the height of your character)
3) Cac fights like sonic/ shadow (no need of a wispon)
4) Bring all bosses from the sonic games back with new ones but the main one will be Nazo
5) Have sonic and shadow discover a new pair of rings that allows them to make Shadic (super Shadic/ hyper Shadic)
6) Have a classic version of everyone come help including a classic version of your cac
7) Have levels and areas strictly for your character only and others with others. (Everyone has a part. Cac story with all the levels and bosses they face, sonic story with all the levels and bosses he fights, etc and make them challenging)
8) Cac hedgehog can use boost and zip a collect rings like sonic/ Shadow and also go super like them too (basically the hedgehog is like the Saiyan race in XenoVerse)
9) Make your character new (Have a new cac joining the sonic forces fighting along side your old cac)
10) Add in a sonic heroes gameplay in ( with 3 characters you can swap from) depending on who your cac is will depend on if you're a speed, power, or fly type. Will be listed at the bottom.
11) MAKE TAILS USEFUL AND NOT LAME
12) Make some complicated boss battles that actually takes some effort to beat
13) Online pvp
14) Online boss fights (story mode bosses and some that wasn't in the game to make it more interesting)
15) Make skills/ abilities and ultimates for both original characters and cac to boost gameplay and add unlockable skills that you can learn from levels, original characters, and leveling up.
The most important one
16) Actually take your time to finish the game and not rush so you can release the perfect game.
The hedgehog will be a speed type (the fastest)
Bunny and bird will be a fly type (the second fastest)
Others will be a power type.
Feel free to add on
Crazy how the actual company can’t do this
Man these look so cool, but the air boost being broken negates a lot of the level design present in these mods
This pit a smile in my face
(1:20-1:38)
... Uh, Houston... We may have a problem...
This isn't Metropolitan Highway
This is..........
GRAND METROPOLIS
BUH BUH BUH BEE DOOOOOO DOOOOOO
@@gquackstery888 BUH BUH BUH BUH DE DO DOOOOOOO
Grand metropolis stage reminds me of sonic heroes
All they had to do, was make sure 3D sonic was 3D sonic. thank god for network terminal.
This is embarrassing for Sonic Team.
By copying and pasting their work
There's a large amount of new level design here for a start and I was referring to current Sonic Team, the guys that made Forces. This isn't their work.
@@Wbubbles3998 then you're right
@@Wbubbles3998 Every single stage here was either ported or edited the stage layout. The ported stages weren't even that good (-minus that first one from Shadow the Hedgehog.)
A mediocre game mixed with my childhood.
I like it.
That stage lava shelter is from shadow the hedgehog i know it because i played shadow the hedgehog, oh i see more shadow the hedgehog stages
Track Mania Turbo: Sonic Edition lol
Forces sonic was pretty neat the only thing that sucked was the level design
Wow a level thats actually built with the games mechanics in mind?
YOU DON'T FUCKING SAY.
I think we need a Sonic Forces Remastered with new levels and old redesigned locations!
remastered? the game just came out last year. .. maybe youre using incorrect vocabulary ?
My knowledges have some nuances but I mean, this game needs a detailed plot and with new normal levels
Why wouldnt you play the shadow levels with shadow?
I have a problem with my hedgemodmanager. Every time I change mods, it delete my save file and I must ALL complete ONE MORE TIME !! Can someone help me ?
enable save file redirection in the manager's settings
... I'm damned: that didn't change a thing.
Fortunately, I have the the forces mod installer, I can't load the ring boost gauge and when I want to deactivate a mod, I need to deactivate them all.
But thanks anyway 😊.
Nb: do you think, with some modifications, it's possible to use sonicGMI for forces ?
@@gravitybreaker1 forgot what I said, it's actually work ! I don't really know why but I think that's 'cause I played with the "save backup" button and "load backup" button with no knowledge about the program (I also replaced the backup with my save "normal" file and because I have the steam version of sonic forces... Goodbye savefiles 😢.)
Thank you for your help !!😄
@@ucky9226 its kind of impossible to use SonicGMI on Forces. Just like it says, "Sonic *Generations* mod installer", so no, you can't use SGMI anywhere else except Gens
@@cadetw1376 I already know that, I thought with modifications it was possible to adapt the program by changing code or file, at least, I think I just tried to ignore the truth (and I'm sorry for this and don't hesitate to correct me because I am almost sure I made mistakes and I want to be better in english).
Anyway, I don't know how but I fixed it and I can use the hedgemod manager correctly but that's the first time I see this and that suprised me (but not in the good way). Thank you !
Yep, it is worth getting sonic forces on pc after buying it on Xbox one s
i hate that dumb air boost
u can pretty much skip alot of parts of them map
Rookie is so cool he can even walk and run Naruto style in air 0:29
1:20
8:08👏👏👏 Bravo
We need Shadow the Hedgehog for PC... Love those levels!
I wonder how well it would work to port the assets over to the PC version of Heroes. It's the same engine, so it should work, right?
@@dizzydaisy909 So far, modding for this game is extremely limited. The PC version is also pretty hard to handle, controls-wise. But other than that, just adding better assets for an HD-UI or better textures makes the game crash and become unplayable at certain levels. And besides that, Shadow the Hedgehog doesn't only consist of Assets/Textures; you also need to have 3D-models, specific game mechanics, items, cutscenes, menus, enemies, AI, game modes, stages and more. Just putting some assets into a game doesn't do the trick.
*we are going to make sonic forces better*
I would really like to see a colors stage since forces goes in 2d alot
whenever i try starting the game and use a mod it keeps opening the bat file and it wont close and finish plz help
That suppose to be a command line box for a log file, just leave that box alone and wait. The game will eventually start up.
@@GBA64TCZ3 what if it doesnt
You just gotta wait really.
@@GBA64TCZ3 ok but sometimes it says it failed and what it it doesn't work
It sometimes says that in the command window, but it still works somehow in my experience. Is your Forces copy bought or gifted on Steam?
Stop cheating by using Debug mode to prevent dying, its not fair!
*W o a h M y H E a d ' s S p i n n i n g !*
1:20 I'M FLYING
Take fucking notes sonic Team!
from themselves?
sonic:wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww is that me &I you
You:yup we're sonic hereos
me:I want to be a sonic hero
Why did SEGA have to change the engine? 😫
cos they had to remake it from scratch because they lost the original programming for the engine
Can't SEGA just remake this good (yet disappointing to some) game? Like the vanilla game is about as good as unleashed (so mediocre) so why not a remake? What is this is just a demo?
4 months later lol
why is your gameplay style so risky
He wants to beat the stage faster so the video is shorter so he's rushing
1:20 lol
glyphic cannon tho
6:57
What?
Why do fans have to fix almost every sonic game. Its makes me sad.
Sega typically rushes their employees alot before letting them make the game in its best form. It's been happening since Heroes.
@@dizzydaisy909 yeah it sucks. hopefully the next sonic game in 2020 or 2021 is gonna be a great game.
Rushing? I refuse to believe that pretext