Virus TI for FREE? Well, there is a TWIST there...
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
- Heeey, Internets! I'm back again with another vid, this time it's OsTIrus, which is a faithful and free emulation of Virus TI. Or, is it faithful, is it free? Some info and explanations are coming from me!
0:00 Intro
1:06 What is OsTIrus, really?
3:50 Virus TI vs OsTIrus
6:04 Head to head sound examples
8:00 A patch from scratch
8:55 Summing tha thingz up! - Hudba
Hellloooo, people in the Internets! Do you own Virus TI? Do you think Kemper Music should start selling Virus TI firmware like a plugin? Lemme know down below!
I still have my TI 61 since it was released - would never let it go. And yes, Kemper should allow the purchase of the firmware as the hardware is now out of production.
I havent watched this video yet but Udio has competition: “ElevenLabs”
I own a TI Polar and I love it, but yes, without the Plugin it's pain on MAC OS. So I hope Kemper may release a modern Plugin
Luckly I have a account with my broken Virus TI registered there... Now I can have fun again with this gem entirely ITB... Also, in their discord there is a skin replica of Virus TI plugin controller that you can see the wavetables and so... man, they should sell as plugin without hardware like the UAD is doing now... If I remember, there is a Virus ITB for ProTool users, why not release for the masses
The originator of the DSP emulator was forced by Kemper to cease and desist from the project and is no longer involved - after TUS approached Kemper and asked if they would license the firmware. So there is little to no chance that Kemper will sell the firmware, at least not without overwhelming number of users demanding it... Waldorf (Micro Q and Microwave XT) seem to be operating under a don't ask-don't tell strategy, also failing to provide licenses without the synth.
Its just so crazy what is possible with this chip-emulation. When I first heard the VirusC Emu I was blown away. It sounded exacly like the hardware. There is also a Emu for Vavra available and I guess this is just the beginning. Crazy times. Thx for the review ❤🎉😊
This IS Virus C. That's the point!
It's a pity that the firmware file is not available, say, by creating a free account at Access, downloading the also freely-available Virus TI Desktop software, and expanding the install package to grab the firmware file.
Firmware file is available. But you need to own a Virus TI. Otherwise you are stealing people's money.
Thanks for posting this thing so I didn’t have too 😂
"The Access Virus website is currently offline for security reasons. Please check back in a couple of hours." (22.05.24, 21:01 CEST)
Lol?
@@JanMichalSzulew Let me guess. Now the desktop software downloads firmware only when updating the hardware.
@@JanMichalSzulew who has it on a google dri>e?
Does this work for Mac???
yeah, my mate got it going
I own a VirusTI 61 and I love the idea of putting this on a laptop, build patches on the road and then loading them back on your hardware.❤❤❤
I would pay 100USD to Access just to say I didn’t steal it. It has been a long time dream for me to own a Virus TI.
Get the Viper plugin. Sounds awesome
@@craigmoran893Would be a hard sell...
Not saying that Viper is a bad plugin, but it's a Virus emulation. OsTirus is the real deal.
top comment mentions a free virus ti desktop software, they said you can grab the firmware through the install package. by definition this isnt stealing or illegal. its illegal to rip the firmware from a purchased virus but they apparently if you know where to look you can get it for free which means its not linked to that purchase contract
@@dxzzydxm5518 Why don't they link the firmware on the site then? Why is there a warning on opening the plugin? We all know, doesn't matter how you try to spin it.
You can run Osirus using the Virus C ROM. If only there was a source on the internet archive...I mean archived.
Yes, it is the same, because they also made the emulation for Waldorf Micro Q (called Vavra) and I happen to be the owner of the Micro Q - it is obviously the same sounding.
I've wanted a TI for years. I know many great tracks that used the hardware. Very lush sounds.
While a load of patches sound identical I’ve also come across plenty that don’t sound the same while A/B testing with a Ti
Ok, now that we got the disclaimers out the way, who can hook it up with the rom. I want to buy a ti2 61 key, but I don't know if I'll vibe with it, so this will be a great way to check it out.
Wow. Quite an interesting twist. Thanks for the video. 👏🏻
As a Virus Ti owner & Mac user, this is incredible - my Ti has never worked better and sound amazing. Hats off to the developer!
I am happy to use the DSP Emu plugin as a quick fill/patch building - but my polar TI2 isn't going anywhere.
I control the Plugin with my Virus C, phenomenal!
how can we get it
Runs great and without glitches on my 10 y.o Mac book pro! I wish for the original skin as I'm used to that. Worth mentioning is the ability to overclock, under clock, oversample, and running several instances which could take it potentially further as original ever could.
I have the TI at home but was not working with it because of the missing TI support on MAC anymore. This emulator is a game changer. Now it is easy to use and I can use my old presets.
If you have the firmware update software for Mac legally downloaded from the Virus website, you can view package contents for the PKG file and locate the ROM somewhere in there.
`congtars to 10k subs
Does anyone knows where is the ti firmwere file located on osx?
If you have the update software used to update the firmware for your Virus TI, you can copy the PKG file to your Mac and then right-click on it and select something like "Show Package Contents", which will let you navigate the files inside of the PKG. There might be another PKG file you have to copy to your desktop and then do the same with it. You're looking for a file with a BIN extension.
Hey, I understand where you are coming from when you say they sound identical.
They are close BUT they sound different to me. I did a blind test and was able to tell which one's which.
The Virus has a better low & mids and sounds thicker where as the Ostirus sounds like a software synth, it's got thinner lows and mids and some aliasing? going on which makes it less crispy. Can we by any chance have a null test on more static sounds?
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What are the firmware files for the Virus Ti that you can download from the access Virus website!? Can you use them!?
I explained that in the vid, actually...
No you don't! You only say it is illegal, but I like to know are you talking about the firmware that you can just download from their website!? Can I use it, does it work!?
@@AllmedialabNlyes but afaik you can only access those donwloads if you have an account and you can only create an account with a virus serial number.
Hes an ignorant prick, just do a google search for the firmware you will find it pretty easily @AllmedialabNl
@@koncreteto2758 No he's not, and tbf, there's no 'firmware files' to download from their site either. If the OP had bothered to Google this in the first place... we wouldn't be discussing it. #Lazy
on the emulator guys’ Discord there is also a skin that mimics the Virus Control Plugin :)
Even if Kemper sold the TI firmware for a mere $100 - they'd get literally 100,000s of purchases they could still make bank on. Some people would be like 'yea, well, people just pirate it anyways.'
Well people are already 'pirating' the TI firmware. At least if Kemper said "We'll make the firmware available, whatever..." they could still be earning additional bank from legit users.
i know -its fuckin weird , isnt it - like free money.
@@craigmoran893 Probably because they wanted the project to end. This would tie them up in support requests and the usual whining of users. On something they don't even make. Yeah it would be nice, but I can see why they'd want nothing to do with it too.
I'd buy it.
When I open OSTIRUS in my DAW, no matter how much you tweek the knobs on the UI, no sound is coming out. How do you manage to make it sound?
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You need the ROM file of the hardware, it won't make any sound without it.
There are skins for ostirus that looks pretty much exactly like the virus vst, with waveforms and everything.
sorry ,don't understand , not english , is ostirus a vst that just can run on a daw ? thank .
That is correct
Yes it is, but it needs original, legally acquired firmware from the original Virus TI!
@@FoliaSound I really hope they do a Supernova 2 one as well. I own one and would love to have it inside the DAW :D
@@1wibble230 You have now free V-Station. Of course it is not powerful as (Super)Nova but good to go if you want Novation sound patches.
As Access don't care anymore about Virus TI Mac users (the total integration, tha VST Software doesn't not work sice Big Sur or Catalina) i don't care about their licensing policy.
Sorry to hear that :( I still think it would be great if they took some care both for Mac users and for any potential DSP56300 emulation users. Maybe they will if we shout loud enough? Cheers!
My TI works perfectly with Mac M2. The secret is to use it the same way as any other hardware synth ;P
Yes but it's not TI anymore.@@BattleAngelSound
It's Mac that doesn't care for his users! Always sucks with backward compatibility every new release!
That doesn't really make sense.. should apple rewrite access program? Or make all new os updates universally backwards compatible? Not a feasable task imo@@alfredgrupstra
What kind of filter creates that effect? I hear it in loads of stuff from the 2000s, and I want SOOO badly to recreate it. I7:18
You're modulating a bandpass with an LFO or a gate stepper. Don't forget to crank up the resonance.
@@Mopark25 Thanks a ton man! Will any gate stepper work?
yeah, its as mopark25 said. btw this type of modulation can be done easily in ni massive
I have a virus registered on the access website. How do I find the firmware download to try this ?
c:\Program Files\Access Music\Virus TI\Common\
It's pretty buggy... I noticed playing it while moving certain knobs .. it buggs out
what is it like with computer resources?
not bad at all.
Very nice video, I have a virus to till now, so you mean if I download Ostirus Vst3 Plugin & open it in my daw then how to load the Firmware ? I have my Access Virus software plugin from my account I downloaded it so how I download the firmware ? Can you explain how I can do it ? If you have time ? Thank you so much if I am able to make it work this will be my dream came true again , thanks
Well, if he explains where to find the .bin of the firmware on the internet he will have trouble with Access/Kemper because people who don't own a Virus TI will be able to do the same. So you have to find by yourself but this not very complicated.
I already found it thank you it was very easy
@@amrsalahmahmoud3034Cool! 👍
I have this and Osirus. I don't own a virus a/b/c or TI (owned a TI) in the past. these are the best synthesisers around. now you can enjoy without the hassles that came with the TI and it's USB sync issues. the guys who made the Ostirus are pure genius. I was able to import all the patches I made and collected for the Virus Ti. They sound identical.
... its USB sync issues. (The possessive pronoun has no apostrophe - it's is the contraction of "it is".)
You can download it for free. No police care. Just ask somebody that has it and they’ll give it to you. Also remember to run it at 96khz. And if you need more processing power make sure to process the plug-in OUTSIDE of your daw. A great way to do this is to use audiogridder, eitheron the same computer or any spare computer you have lying around.
Yes the plugin can be CPU greedy but on my side with a 6 yo intel mac the DSP 56300 emulation works fine even in many instances. Either for the Virus TI/Snow (Ostirus), the Virus B&C (Osirus) and the Waldorf Micro-Q (Vavra). I have the possibilty to run them on a spare networked mac but I've never realy needed it.
I’m wondering if the chip company might have a problem with using an emulation of their chip? I don’t know much about out it. It would be amazing if they did release it as a plugin.
Avenger and viper are doing a great job.
It’s discontinued
The question is, where is the ROM/Firmware file?
Hello Paul! I would buy the firmware in an INSTANT if I could emulate a Virus TI as a plug-in. I am however tempted to buy a used TI but the TI-software is no longer supported on current OS X versions, so this OsTIrus is indeed an option... all the best, keep on making your videos!
Thanks! Yes, MacOS stopped being supported by Access Music, which isn't a cool thing :( Hope they release the firmware oficially. I think I'll even write to them tomorrow :)
@@FoliaSound Please do so! I don't think that Mr. Kemper has any real reason NOT to sell the firmware at this point since his endeavours are focused on the Kemper amps. Keeping the Virus alive would be not only a viable financial option but a great service to the Virus and the music community🙂
@Hummelsbusch
Bud, I had a Virus ti, the software was always glitchy for me. If I used it on the USB only mode with streamed audio it would crash and glitch out, but if i used the the plugin with USB and the line input option straight into my USB audio interface it was fine. There's actually a lot of really good midi controled plugins fot the Virus Ti's now, some are free and some are not, but theyre are more stable and they have OS X versions aswell.
@Hummelsbusch
Bud, I had a Virus ti, the software was always glitchy for me. If I used it on the USB only mode with streamed audio it would crash and glitch out, but if i used the the plugin with USB and the line input option straight into my USB audio interface it was fine. There's actually a lot of really good midi controled plugins fot the Virus Ti's now, some are free and some are not, but theyre are more stable and they have OS X versions aswell.
Just save my life because my ti 2 doesn’t work with my Mac ! I know I can run it differently but this plug in just saved my life 👌🏻
I have a virus snow for live use. I use ostirus for testing out sounds and sysex export. Great combination
Yes, i own one. Haven't used it for years. Must have been 2016 last time. But this is really exciting i must say! Cause i was one of those unlucky folks that bought a access virus ti desktop and then just some months later v2 comes out with more dsp power. Guess that's not a problem anymore! HEHE
I have TI, can someone explain to me why I need this plug-in if I have TI because I don't understand the idea???
if you have this plugin, you can sell the virus😆
you dont *need* it if you have the hardware.
you could say its better to use the hardware as its not (heavily) running on your cpu like this vst
@@cyfrowakomunatv not entirely... for me knobs are much more inspiring than a computer mouse ;)
Yeah man awesome, and then maybe Access could like make a sort of midi controller to use with this firmware...!
I've got a Ti Snow. and the Viper synth plugin, too.... which sounds awesome!!! - but the Ostirus... -- no fuckin around - it sounds exactly like the sound of the Virus - a tinny bit crackley (just while it gets going - for me - anyway) and then its smooth. - it has the magic - that's the best recommendation i can give. sounds badass. like the proper Virus we all love. A Digital Synth masterpiece - that's what the Virus is
I grabbed the plugin , and i want to buy the HW !! but no way to find one recent !!!
wdym recent? The Ti2 came out in 2009.
downloading a virus.......... hmmmm
Worth it
Another realy big twist is that this thing is consumming a lot of CPU;
On my macbook m1 pro it's such around 50% when I load some complex preset.
It's crazy!
Maybe the emulator is a complexe algorythme, cause I'm prety sure that viper adam szabo how sound exatly the same, is that king of plugin how's consumming maybe 10 times less.
Has anyonee experienced the same issue ??
Yes. It is VERY CPU hungry. There is a setting somewhere on the top right of the plugin, that allows you to tweak it so it runs a bit better though.
I have a Macbook Air M2 and I have never seen the CPU above 15% with this synth...
I have an old i7 3770k, and i can run 4-5 instances without any problems.
They would make so much more $$$ selling as a plugin compared to what they’d earn with hardware owners. It’s a NO BRAINER!! They’d be silly not to! Great video and new sub - thanks🙏👊👊👊
Having owned a Virus Ti2, the hardware emulator is audibly indistinguishable.
Good video! I think it wasn’t long ago when I took a look at how much a Virus TI costs….
Where in the licence it says you can run the firmware only on the hardware chip? This situation is simply beyond any regulations, they never thought someone can actually emulate the hardware. Not to mention that the firmware with no hardware means you lose the keyboard and knobs of original synth..
I believe, that the license says that software is an integral part of your synth purchase. That's it.
@@FoliaSound Remember, the original synth is hardware. There is no such thing as licensing hardware. Buyer got a synth that he paid for, he did not pay for no licence.
@@FoliaSound Don't know about Access, but Apple says in their EULA that you can't run the OS on non-Apple computers, but we have no EULA in Europe so it's completely legal.
Hello My Friend Great show
Heeey, James, good to see you again!
Great synth and thanks for sharing. Why didn't you invert the phase to demonstrate the patch was the same.
Because some effects, like chorus, won't trigger exactly same in time, I believe. Also, the oscillators and filter settings may introduce some nonlinearities over time, which excludes making it same sample by sample. But as this is the chip emulation, what I'm doing in the vid is that I'm running exactly same software synth, which is housed in my rack. Its THE SAME MACHINE :)
It’s not a vst remake of it.. the motorolla DSP is emulated and the original virus OS is run on the emulator as designed. It sounds exactly the same as a TI because it is the TI.
That U.... Found what I need....
Having just watched your AI music vid (of 1 month ago), why is Access' copyright on its Virus firmware be such a problem if AI could create a new "virtual analog" synth modeled after the Virus, with a UI modeled after it, and with presets (and unlimited new sounds and variations) based on Virus presets, and with better, more opended-specs, and possibilities, and audio quality? After all, Virus itself is very much a clone of analog electronics with digital improvements...
Have you seen AI that creates whole programs including UI? Not to mention you would need their ROM source code.
Kemper should sell Access Virus IP to someone who cares about the community and can manage capital to produce a new generation of Virus TI 3.
Perhaps TI 3 with built in sequencer and arp / scene switches and OneShot mode patches (like drum kits or how BassStation II one shot mode across each key))
Thanks to the developers! Keep going! And not everyone can pay $100 for firmware, let it be as it is, free firmware and free Ostirus! But the author definitely needs to donate and I’ll donate myself!
So basically if I pay 600.000 € for a new special Ferrari , and than when I own it I can use it completely for free ?
Access should just make a proper VSTi plugin, can't be that hard when they have all the software.
Yes, that would be it, absolutely!
there is a second twist. Look at your CPU usage for using the emulated DSP plugin. You didn't cover that aspect unfortunately.
I didn't run proper performance test, but my VST meter doesn't go crazy during the shoot, while having the ASIO buffer at 32 samples...
Any modern PC will run the firmware emulator without issue.
If you don't like your CPU being used, you can always turn off your computer.
Your thumbnail picture makes you look like garry lineka
Anyway love ma a ostirus ✌🏻
I need the firmware
My Virus runs on digidesign HD3 cards. That use those motorola chips.
Someone needs to use this emulator code and put it in an open DSP so that we can have it in hardware again
They should sell the firmware for 100$ and give Virus TI a great virtual future.
E x a c t l y !
Yes, absolutely.
No problems here. It's awesome!!! Just find the firmware.... it's there to find.
Hello sir ,
Saw yr eye opening videos.
is it possible to get any of my song recorded here in SF , free of cost , with music ?
Who can help?
I arrived from India last week in SF and will remain here till May .
CPU usage?
Moderate, I would say. This is not any rocket science ;)
Why? Is your CPU not there to be used?
please check the viper vst by adam szabo. It's not identical but pretty close one
I know it and it's great indeed!
I've owned a Virus B rack, Virus Polar TI, Virus C, had a firned's Snow TI for a year, then bought a Virus Indigo 1 and now this. I can finally stop buying and selling Virus synths....I think.
Good comparison...
The Terratec Komplexer was a VSTi 'clone' of the Waldorf MicroQ.
Komplexer will load MicroQ sys-ex.
The DSP56300 VAVRA VST is NOT a clone of the MicroQ.
I loaded same MicroQ Factory banks sys-ex on Komplexer.
Sounds completely different than loading SAME MicroQ Factory banks sys-ex on DSP56300 Varva.
Terratec Komplexer was a VSTi is a vst/dsp 'clone' that ran their own code and build to build the Komplexer VST.
DSP56300 VAVRA VST is running same original firmware of the Waldorf MicroQ.
VAVRA isn't a clone, either... just like OSTIRUS isn't a clone.
I'm really amazed by 'what' DSP56300 project has done.
Waldorf Microwave II/XT is coming in the near future as well.
Komplexer was an aproximation of the Micro Q, Vavra is a clone (exact copy). The DSP is identical and so if the firmware running on top of that.
I think Christoph Kemper should release an official and optimized VST version of this synth. It sounds great but the emulation of the Motorola dsp introduces some cpu spikes. Spire, more or less, has the same features and presets and runs very smooth and it's more punchy. The magic of hardware synths comes from the dacs, the OsTirus sound is raw and needs a good equalization. Modern virtual synthesizers are developed trying to replicate the analog side of the dacs+preamplifiers characteristics.
But if you use a TI with the VST, the audio is sent to the machine over USB and bypasses the DAC. As for an optimised VST, that would mean rewriting the 24bit fixed point DSP to use integer maths on an x86/ARM, and working out how to use the vector registers for efficiency. Since the Virus firmware is written with a lot of DSP-specific assembly this will not be easy.
I dont have my virus anymore but im stil have a acces acount and with that i can download the installer en in there threre is te firmware so you dont have to have a virus i already playing with it for 2 weeks ist awesome :) btw they have also emulated the virus c so now I have them both
:O :O :O Hope it's legal!
😂
It is a great plugin for sure. One funny thing, from 8:15 on it sounds like a riff within my last song: czcams.com/video/EEC3kpnPSAM/video.html
I dreamt about virus ti. When I finally bought it second hand, audio out didnt work, usb only, lots of win BSOD. Then it died and took me a lot of troubleshooting, capacitator change to fix it. And then came viper vst. Worst case of synth bad luck and waste of money 😁
Yap, if this was a commercial plugin available to everyone, I’d buy it in a heartbeat. SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!
Right?
If you need a ROM copy holler
ROM copy please
i am hollering :)
Even that I knew that it's in beta, I bought hardware TI anyway. It's more fun than plugin + it has exactly zero CPU usage :) So I can put heavy effect plugins for mixing instead.
I'm waiting for NL3 emulation because IMO second hand is too expensive for what it can do (only 4 layers).
Let me be honest at the risk of sounding selfish. Virus, is for Virus owners. If you bought one, A, B, C, Classic, Ti, Ti2, then it's fear game. Again, and I agree I do sound horrible : )). lol
I do believe Mr Kemper will return to the Synth Arena one day. He'll eventually get bored of those long haired 6 to 8 string strummers. It's a shame that the guitar planet is larger than the synth one. His bank account and the man himself is happier I guess compared to the Virus days.
I’ve looked into this a few times, but to be honest, it’s a kind of a pain in the ass to use. I also think the Virus is a wee bit overrated and has been surpassed by the many many wonderful soft synths that have been released over the last decade or so: Spire, Hive 2, Lush 2, Viper (a clone), VPS Avenger, the GForce stuff, the Softube Models, UVI, and even the Arturia collections. Remember Sylenth? Disco DSP Discovery? Yeah. There’s not a whole lot you can do with a Virus that you can’t do with software. Is it nostalgia? Or price? I think the odds that Kemper will release their firmware as software are exactly zero, lol. Personally, I’d rather fire up Model 72 and Synth Anthology 4 in Live if I wanted to make some banging electronic music, and not waste my time faffing around with this homemade non-emulator.
i don’t think anybody really cares about legal issues here 🤣 don’t arguing if it’s good or bad, it’s just how it is..
btw. original access plugin doesn’t work on mac anyway, so for mac users is havong OSTirus actually bettwr option than having HW..
or.....grab a ROM from some free sources ;)
0:44 Subscribe with no clarification in your opening about what the Virus is. Is it the synth, or a cancerous internet infection?
You lied. This isnt real virus
Access guys said they are bored, so they will go back to make Synths again!
Rumors say, the new family will called Bacteria 😂😂😂😂😂
VIPER vst does a better job than this emulater, dont need no bs firmware and can load all soundbanks from all virus synths, mu h more stable much more intuitive interface, oh but its not mac what a shame LOL
ugh the click baity bury the headline.
I mean…this is video about how to use somebody hard work of creation for free. Brand new virus its still possible to buy and money get the creators. Shame…
Frankly? It's a shame that Access Music never workend on a VST version of any of their viruses plus they didn't start selling the firmware oficially!
@@FoliaSound The reason why they did not make any VST its one thing. But if even 1 person did not buy real Virus synth because get the free software, means that people who create this synth simply lost the money. Distributors and so on… First editions work without any software. I own last edition of this hardware and never ever miss computer integration.
Virus is not available New any more. They waited with the release until this is the case. Kemper dies not care. The DSP chip needed to produce the virus is not available any more. So there will be no new Virus any more.
wow dzienki
Spoko!
i totally didnt get the firmware for free