Greek Turkish Shared Musics - Aman Doktor (Yiatros) - Mendilimin Yesili
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- One of the most oft recorded tunes in the early 20th centuries among Greeks was the Turkish song Mendilimin Yesili better known as Aman Doktor. It was especially favored by Greek immigrants to America who recorded it many times. Two Greek American recordings are included here, a very early one by Amalia Baka from Yanina, Epirus and a later one by Virginia Mangidou from Istanbul. Other American reocrdings not included are two by Marika Papagika, two by Giorgos Katsaros and one in Turkish by Tom Stathis (Stathiades) from Kirk Kilise (Saranda Ekklisies) now Kirklareli. The first Turkish recording on this upload is sung by the Armenian, Bogos Kirecciyan. It was recorded in Istanbul and released on the Balkan Record Label in NYC , circa 1953. The second Turkish recording is by Ali Ugurlu who recorded dozens of songs in Athens in the early 1960s. Included also are two "folk" versions - one, played on zurna and daouli is used to accompany the dance "Seryiani" from the region of Nigrita in Macedonia; and the other, also from Macedonia, is from the village of Krini. This is the only version in Greek I know of whose lyrics are different from the usual ones about needing a doctor to cure an uncurable love pain.
İki ırk olarak tom ve jery gibi olsakta ayrılmaz simge olmuş ikili gibiyiz bunu kabul etmemiz lazım öncelikle.Türkler Yunanlar olarak .. bu arada admin çok güzel Videolar paylaştığın için eğemeğine saygi duyuyor like atıyorum öpüyorum gözlerinden daha çok ve daha güzel videolar paylaşmanı diler Ümit ederim kal sağlıcakla
two nations are brother.. i like this song.. i live in Edirne (Adrianopel) waiting my other friends, brothers for Raki :)
Erkan Shakur, Allah belanı versin, sende burada yorum yapan, bir sürü Türk gibi Yunanlılar yalakalık et, ama burada İngilizce yazan tüm şerefsiz (istisnalar hariç) Yunanlılar sırasıyla, kökeni taa 1200 lerde ki Mevlevi musikinden başlamış, Bugünün Suriye ve Lübnan bölgesi Araplar'ından, (Arap Yarımadası bedevileri ve Irak yöresininkiler hariç, hatta kuzey Afrika ülkeleri halkı hariç) kullandığı Ud, Kanun gibi enstrumanlarla Farsların Tambur unu da alarak geliştirdiğimiz musikimize Bizans müziği diyorlar. Ulan hiç bir Helen kökenli melodi kullanmadan beste yapan 1200 lerin Anadolu Türk müsikicileri sadece Yunanlıların kullandığı 4 4 lük nota usülunü kullanmışlar. daha sonra 1310 da AZERİ Türkü musiki üstsdının icat ettiği ve musikimize uyan 4 8 yada 8 8 lik nota uygulaması sonunda, musikimize sadece nota konusu ile bir girip çıkmış olan bu etkisinin de olmamasıyla kendi nota kaydımızla, ama Suriye-Lübnan bölgesi Semitik musiki makamlarından 10, 15 tanesini kullanmaya başlayıp, üstüne 200 de kendimizin icad ettiği makamlarala 800 yılda geliştirdiğimiz müziğimizi utanmadan kend müzikleri olduğunu söylüyorlar, hani bizim 80, 100, 150, 200 yıllıkTürkçe sözlü şarkılarımıza 1923 sonrası Rumca söz yazıp işte bizim derlerken, bir çoğu da Türk diye millet yok, siz Asyadan gelme kültürsüz, acemi çaylaklarsınız, diyor, kimisi % 5, 6 Türksünüz, gerisi Yunan, Erme, Kürt, Süryani kanı taşıyorsunuz diyor, kimisi katliamcı jenosidciler memleketimizi çaldı ız diyor. Tabii İngilizce. Sizde Salak, Salak onlara kardeş, biz biriz diye methiye düzüp yalakalık adiyorsunuz. Aşıksanız, bu hakaretleri kabul ediyorsanız, kendinizi Yunan DÖLÜ, olarak görüyorsanız, si.,............rip gidin Yunanistan'a.
@@KnowsBilir kaç yaşındasın
@@onurutkan9524 Sen Kaç yaşındasın. Büyük olasılıkla ben sana sen diyebilecek yaştayım ama sen değilsin.
Ah bre Doktor,the lyrics of the song are very emotional and meaningful..
Ahh, you see greek, armenian, turkish people living happily creative & artistic in Ottoman times. Gone are the days of those amazing cultural fusion. Ah, bre, ahhhh
People also lived good in the Byzantine empire without paying taxes to muslims
I wish that was true but why should Christian people be under the ottoman rule as second class citizens hey protection money tax to live in your own Homeland that does not make sense brother. Would the Turkish /Muslim colonialist feel the same living under the yoke of the Christian rule? I don't think so
!!!! I was looking for an old version in Greek but i couldn't find!!! Thank you!!!
the music of the geography, not the music of nations
Hayır bu muzik Rumeli den göçen Türkler e aittir. Dostluk kardeşlik derken kendi kültürümüzün ürünlerini millete satamayız
@@runeterrahikayeleri süper paylasim🌳🌲🌲🌲👍💞☺💕TR -- GR . .😀😀
What a better way to describe such a complex context
Μπράβο romeikos2.
Πολύ καλή δουλειά το βιντεακι με όλες αυτές τις παραλλαγές!
ikinci seslendirme yapılan yunanca söylenen versiyonunda aslan sütünü yanında tutmadan edilmez sanırım:) bütün seslendirmeler çok güzel.teşekkürler
history says about those days and genocides! just enjoy the music and leave soft power alone.
the most beautiful song... aman sekletia
Μπράβο σου και ευχαριστώ!!
Guzel bir derleme olmus. Elinize saglik.
kai egw eyxaristo poli!
There is also a kurdish version of the song, sung by Hassan Zirak but I don't know which year exactly
1954
haydi vre yass su
Harika!
Merhaba!! I don't know any other word but i think it mean hi
Hi, if anyone has any info about the first image (catalogue of Ayoub Sabri Studiosu in Smyrna) please let me know !!!!
at the end, the man singing sounds like a Greek priest big time
👍❣️💐🎶💯🌍👏
Evalla!!!
@whiteNshine By Aramaeans I take it you mean Assyrians.
Ruh Kardeşiyiz,
teleio to videaki sou file........
It's interesting to see how these songs contain patterns from different cultures. I realize that Turkish classic music is greatly effected by Byzantine music. Even Davul and Zurna is not only Turkish I guess. This music is a great inheritance from our ancestors, they have created it together and it was shared, didn't belong to just one nation.
Last one sounds like an Orthodox priest lol
i think, if greek and turks share music like this it's from the ottoman period, the first song in turkish is very ottoman style, and don't sound like geek or byzantine.
They sound same ? Go away Iraqi stop separating us.
the very term "nation" is an artificial, man-bread creation, that is centuries almost millenia more recent that our cultures and traditions, from the Balkans to Central Asia, so yes, obviously.
Actually since we "created" the nations (for me the most backward moment of History since the establishment of Christianity by the Roman imperialism...), we have lost so much of our common and marginal cultures than whatever we're supposed to have gained...
οι αρχαιοι ελληνες δεν ηταν εθνος ? θα μας τρελανεις ?
@@umkalzum μονο εθνος δεν ηταν σκοτονοντουσαν μερα νυχτα
It's heavily influenced. Think about it, how can a nomadic people from Central Asia have similar music to the indigenous people of the region. Eventually the indigenous converted and Turkish music, cuisine, language, and look changed. Today around 8-9% of Turks have Asian genetics. Today's Turks are the original people of the region but under a new name. Greeks, Armenians, Assyrians, Georgians, and etc.. laid the foundations and Turks kicked them out.
to traciensis
you seem to me that you knew exactly what was going on those years !!!
but, there are too many who have studied history and the genocides under the 'happy' ottoman empire of yours!
so, leave the culture alone and stop using soft power to promote ethnic interests.
maybe just enjoy the music.
all this is byzantine. it is so simple. there is no turkish!
İts Saba makam.
🖕🖕🖕🖕idiot
@@nese1214 The truth hurts!!!
@@Teoo9966 😏
Turks are successors of byzantine.