Westinghouse igen 4500 CHOKE FIX In 10 Minutes!!! Easy DIY
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- čas přidán 29. 05. 2021
- Westinghouse 4500 generator has a problem with the choke not working which is due to a wire harness not connected. This is a really easy fix. But this shouldnt be left to the customer to fix unless you want to try it yourself which is not that hard.
Hope this video helps.
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Excellent presentation.
I’m going to create a “preflight” checklist from all the videos I’ve watched.
Thanks!
Just made a purchase on 6/1/2021 from Home Depot not sure of the manufacture date but when i when and started the 4500 it ran real rough, I searched and found the chock, flipped it open and it ran smooth. So fast forward to this CZcams vid it made me check on the connection for the auto chock and sure enough not plugged in, went through the steps to plug in and like magic it now starts and runs smoothly, Thanks Johnny Weekend. PS there is no reason for this to have to be done by the purchaser this is POOR workmanship in you know where, I need not say any more.
Awesome glad I could help, and yes you are correct , no reason for someone who buys this should have to correct the mistake. But sometimes it’s more hassle to return it for some so maybe if they find this it will help them out.
Thanks for the comment and thanks again for watching 👍🏼😃 and be sure to smash that like button. 🙌
Beyond this being the fix I needed after Cummings/onan ignored me, I want to give extra props for the quality of the video. No bs stories up front. Showed the whole process. Speed through tedious parts, slow and pause on important parts. Good audio. Good lighting. Wish all help vids were this good!
Wow thank you so much!!!
I agree most vids need to be pretty much show the product and what it does amd a quick over view of is it worth the price or purchase
Thanks again for watching 👍🏼😀
Dude you are my hero! That is exactly what was wrong with mine! You saved the day... I tip my hat to you!
😀😀👍🏼👍🏼
Glad it worked for you. I figured there would be more.
Glad you are up and going..
Thanks for letting us know and thanks for watching..👍🏼
Just wanted to thank you. This video fixed my problem and saved me a major headache. My generator ran fine but was getting harder and harder to start. Once I was able to look inside there was the plug just hanging there. Plugged it in and now my generator starts right up! Thanks again
Awesome so glad I could help..😀👍🏼
you are amazing thank you for this video. I didn’t need it personally but I had watched another guy that was having problems with his and I don’t know if he ever found the harness being disconnected or what happened but I appreciate these videos and the time it takes to do them, and the information we get from.
You welcome, and thanks for dropping by and now if you come across someone you can be the one who knows..😀👊🏼😉
What a life save I just bought a new unit and straight from the factory I had this issue it was driving me insane until I found your video. I kept on getting an Overload trigger warning. I manually moved the choke and confirmed that it was a choke issue. Now it runs as it should so with that I say thank you
Awesome so glad you found it and that I could help… 👍🏼😀
Thanks again for watching 🙏🏼
Bingo!! Thanks for zeroing in on the problem.
Mine was the opposite. Wouldn’t start at all
because choke was open. This is the 2nd one, 1st one went back because of build quality issues as well.
Wow interesting. I’m wondering when this will stop lol. Makes ya wonder how many they shipped like this.
This is going to help a lot of folks out. Well done.
Thank you. Yes it’s not too hard a fix so if people don’t return the gen or find a deal because it doesn’t work right this might help.
Dude Westinghouse should send you a big check. You have not idea how many sales are you rescue from been returns. I cant believe westing has not a video explaining this and the tech support its joke in this company. thanks lots
I doubt Westinghouse really cares enough because they are manufactured overseas and dud generators are probably in the budget lol.
But I’ll take a little something something if they are reading or watching lol.
Anyway thanks for the comment and thanks again for watching 👍🏼😃
Great info on diy repair. I don't have that model but I do have a wgen 5300 push start that I haven't opened yet. Thanks again 👍🏼
You’re welcome 👍🏼😀
Thanks for the video - your fixed worked - just got the generator on June 20, 2021 and it would not start - your video help me figure it out- well done.
Awesome glad I could …👍🏼😀
I got my Westinghouse 9500 on June 22, 2021. I had and have to use ether to start it. After I get it running, the generator worked great.
Thank you for this! The repair worked on my dual-fuel 4500!
😀👍🏼
Just ordered this generator after watching several of your videos. I now know what I'm getting myself into and what to do right out of the box when it arrives. Great channel, great content!!
Awesome glad I could help. Be sure to watch tomorrow’s video for easy diagnostic issue..👍🏼😀
Thanks again for the comment and thanks again for watching 😊
You just wasted lots of money! Unless you can fix every problem that will happen down the line, you’re going to be paying a ton to get it worked on… These things are so compact and plasticy you won’t have a choice. Better to buy Briggs & Stratton or perhaps a Honda.
Lol oh here we go. Briggs running same China motors and Honda trying to deny every warranty claim they get.
Now Hondas are great but I have tons of feedback from thousands of respondents that have thousands of hours on other generators besides Honda.
Honda is loosing by not dropping there price and still have the same issue any generator can have.
I have owned Honda and still own two.
Do you know Briggs & Stratton that sold out to China? However, there, old stuff is still good… I’ve worked on these and several others, Briggs & Stratton, Cummings that came through were monsters! Only problem, was finding parts…
The old stuff is die hard stuff and still runs the stuff from like 2008 or so till about 2018 seem to be just thrown together. But it seems some items may be getting back to a little more quality.
It’s hit and miss.
Even Honda is starting to have China put together stuff from them which who knows if they are using parts that are also cheaper.
Like there cars lately, just getting worse and worse
Thanks for posting this. Picked up one of these and it has this issue. Just waiting for my son to have time to help me. His hands are way thinner than mine. Appreciate you posting the test to check if it’s the problem.
No problem glad I could help…👍🏼😀
Fix done and working great. Thanks again.
Just bought one of these last weekend from Sams Club. Started right up but guess what? Acted like the choke was stuck. Opened the side panel and sure enough the choke was stuck on. Figured what the heck and did a google search to see if someone else had the same issue. Thanks man, you saved me a weekend of heartache as we were scheduled for a camping trip with no electric hook ups. Plugged in the little plug and everything is awseome. Ran 36 hrs straight with no issues. Thanks again, you are awesome!
Dude awesome, glad I could help. I’m still surprised there are so many units having the same problem. Glad everything worked out….👍🏼😀
And thanks for letting me know.
I purchased my igen4500DF for a travel trailer on 5-20-21. It would start right up. It always ran rough. I thought that was normal for this generator. I'd turn on the air conditioner, & within a couple minutes ac would shut off & then the generator would die. It would not restart until the next day. Saw your video, took apart the whole generator & sure enough the choke wiring harness was not connected. Connected the wire harness & what do you know worked perfectly. Took me a lot longer than 10 minutes. being 100+ degrees & senior female doing all this by myself, but your video did the trick. No thanks to Westinghouse support, they opened a case # & said someone would email me.
Wow sad about Westinghouse but so glad I could help.
Yea for me I work on stuff all the time so I guess I’m used to fixing stuff quick.
Taking apart and plugging the plug in should take about 10-15 mins then another 10 or so to put back together.
But you did it….and that’s what matters!
Good job and glad I could help.
And thanks for the comment and thanks again for watching 😃👍🏼
Thank you my new one did this 3rd time it ran watching you info I fixed it 5ive star thank you
Love it…. So glad it helped👍🏼👍🏼😃
thanks johnny for the video, it was a great help it was already a headache for me✌️👍👍👍
Nice..!! 👍🏼😀
This video is perfect. Made the fix so easy. Thank you.
Your welcome glad I could help..👍🏼😀
Mine didn't have this issue, but it's nice to know it's an easy fix.
Perfect video dude, thank you! I purchased mine and tried it right out of the box and everything worked. Then I wanted to make sure everything was still good three months later after not running it since and it didn’t start. That wire harness problem was exactly the issue why it wouldn’t.
Dude so glad I could help….!!! Glad it’s up and running again…👍🏼
Thanks for watching and subscribe 👍🏼😀
That's exactly what happened to me! Good thing we checked it again, and good thing Johnny had the fix for us!
Glad I could help… so weird there are a few left having this issue.
Thanks for sharing! I have a new champion generator, it looks very similar to this one and is doing the same thing. I'm going to get it out of storage and see if this is the problem.
If not it could be the low speed idle jet. They plug so easy and is a common problem on a lot of the generators as they all use almost the same few carburetors.
How the choke thing is the problem just watch it and manually move it.
Thanks for watching 👍🏼😃
Best how to video on this issue. I just bought one off of Amazon and it had this exact problem. Followed your instructions and viola fixed. Thank you!
Awesome so glad I could help…😀👍🏼
Now we'll see if they post my Amazon review stating it came out of the box that way...
Will be interesting because I would have figured it would be fixed by now…🤷♂️
I just got one from Amazon that would not start unless I use ether! I am going to check that choke! Hope that is the problem!
Let me know..👍🏼
Thank you boss. This was the exact problem
Yes 🙌🏼 💪🏼👍🏼 Glad it worked even though you should not have had to do that.
Wow! Very cool video. My story!! Bought a brand new Firman Inverter Genny. Same thing, exactly. Second one as well. It is a terrible thing we come to when quality control is no longer. You just don't know what to trust any longer... Cheers all. Thanks for the Video.
It’s true quality control is not great with a lot of things like cars and trucks, this stuff and more.
And it’s hard to find workers, and fast food is no longer fast food..🤷♂️😅
What’s the world coming to lol
Sir. You were 100% right on. Took delivery on Monday and I was ready to return this to the store! Opened it up per your instructions and there was the unplugged plug. I can't believe this came loose in transit, because I tugged on it a few times before I closed it up and it won't come off. So it begs the question - who is the dolt at the factory leaving this unplugged? Obviously there is no pre-shipment QA in this factory! Or worse yet, someone is deliberately sabotaging the product internally. Wake up Westinghouse!!!
I agree, this isn’t shipping but a bunch of units that went out early Monday morning or late Friday when everyone was getting off work lol.
Either way glad I was able to help. Even though we shouldn’t have to do this.
Westinghouse needs to figure this out
hard or never started, opened up and wiring harness was not connected..good job !
Thank you 😀👍🏼👊🏼
I don’t even have this generator and I love your video thanks
Awesome glad you liked it. And thanks for watching 👍🏼😀
Worked just as you said. Thanks so much for the informative video
Your welcome glad I could help…👍🏼
Thanks a lot for this video. It saved me from having to return the generator. I have a couple of suggestions for the procedure. On the initial (left hand) panel removal the lower left screw is extremely tight - I wasn't able to loosen it with a Phillips screwdriver. But this one also has a hex head, so a ratchet and 10mm socket did the trick. I also recommend postponing removal of the instrument panel and proceeding to loosening the right hand panel to locate the receptacle. In my case I found the choke wire/plug already routed to within 2 inches of the receptacle, so it was fairly easy to plug it in (should have happened at the factory), and I actually would not have needed to open the front panel or do any rerouting. Your case may be different of course, and you might need to remove the front panel to find the wire.
I really like this generator and am very happy with it's performance after this fix. But like others in this same boat, I'm disappointed in Westinghouse for not successfully addressing this problem. I guess it's a training or quality control issue, but a name brand like Westinghouse should not be putting out an incompletely assembled product. Really unacceptable.
Thanks again for the solution, Johnny! Much appreciated.
Your welcome glad I could help and thanks for the tips.
Mine was the same way, had to loosen the front panel though to get my hand in there. Plug was within 1” of where it needs to go into. Running really nice and smooth now.
Awesome glad it works. 👍🏼😀
Thank you so much for this. My new Igen4500 is doing the exact same thing..choke NOT coming off..and this I'm sure will fix it. 👌
Let me know what ya find 😀👍🏼
@@johnnysweekends Unfortunately mine is plugged in. Mine is a little different being the DF & remote version. Other videos on the subject suggest the step-motor had a problem so I will contacted Westinghouse for a replacement. I have it down for a high altitude kit as I live around 5400 and camp 7-9K....and I first thought this was the problem but when I opened the choke it ran fine...for this altitude. Oh well...
I tell ya this model seems to just have production issues. So many of the same things out of the box. Sorry about your luck. I would have thought all this would have been fixed by now.
Great video! I wondered how those worked. I have a new Westinghouse 9500 generator! It will not start without ether! I had a Koehler motor on a Cub cadet zero turn mower that never started without ether. That Koehler motor was trash in 5 years. I replaced that motor this winter and the new Koehler motor starts great! I don’t want my Westinghouse motor to be trash in 5 years, so maybe I can check the auto choke now.
Thank you, yea the choke issue is a easy fix but shouldn’t have to be the customers issue. Hopefully there about all fixed.
And thanks again, and thanks for watching 👍🏼😀
fixed my problem. thanks!
You’re welcome 😀👍🏼 glad it worked!
Well thanks for this video.. I picked up a Igen4500 last year around this time for summer months when my camper at camp ,AC runs 24/7 here in FL. So that we can also run a full size fridge to keep the wife happy at camp... 158 hours no issues and then it would take 5-10 min to get it running. Once running it would run fine. Tore it apart after watching this video and sure enough it had unplugged... Plugged it back in and put a bead of silicone on top and bottom hoping it will hold... Westinghouse really shit the bed with this gen. For 1 there is not a inch of extra wiring so its sorta pulling on the plug. A slight wiggle and it pops off.. Appreciate the video def helped me figure it out in less time. I knew it had to be the auto choke. I hate auto chokes... Nothing like a old school lever/pull choke.
Awesome glad it helped. Yea unfortunately that harness is short and as the engine vibrates back and forth it just works its way out from being pulled on. Or during assembly it was just so snug it popped right out. Even new ones still have this issue. Blows my mind.
@JOHNNY'S WEEKENDS love the gen but 3x now i have tried silicone. Still came off, tried glue stick dabbed on it. Gonna just jb weld it now. Such a pain in the a$$
Did you try and separate that smaller harness from the main to give it some slack? This may help it from getting pulled out..? Such a bummer the company hasn’t fixed this. I still get new replies about it
@JOHNNY'S WEEKENDS Yeah, i thought i did, but maybe not all the way. It's extremely tight still. Your video has more slack than mine.
Yea I didn’t do the whole thing but I did try and get it to come over more
Perfect video demonstration. No lag No yip yap. 👍x5
Wow thank you glad you liked it and thanks for watching…😀👍🏼
Can’t wait to try this. Exact problem I have. Mine is the onan brand version but same generator. So simple. So stupid. So careless. And of course I’d never have been able to figure that out.
Yup same gen. Let us know if it was for sure that plug…..👍🏼
Thanks for your video. It got me familiar with the choke lever and the wiring harness. I was having the same issue as you in that it would start and run for a few seconds and stop. Then it would not start at all. My wiring harness was intact, however. I moved the choke manually and it would start again but only run for a few seconds. After manually moving the choke 3 more times, it started and kept running. After that, it began to start normally and the choke was automatically moving. I'm guessing my choke lever was stuck. Without your video, I would not have found the choke lever. Thanks for saving me a lot of frustration. ( NOTE: I bought this generator 2 years ago and broke it in using gasoline and let it run to empty. After break-in, I have only powered it with propane until I tried gasoline recently.)
It’s possible the small speed jet could be plugged if it’s been sitting that long. You can check out my generator 5 mix fix for surging and hard starting.
See here Generator won’t start Idles up and down DO THIS 5 Min fix!!
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Thank you, 10 min fix and she's going again no issue's
Awesome glad I could help and thanks again for watching..👍🏼😀
Awesome thank you sir for all your help 🙂
You’re welcome 😀👍🏼
Hey Bro I just ordered one it’s the daul fuel version and got mine all open and they have put a small zip tie on it idk how long it will last with vibration but glad they did something about it probably cuz of your videos and others😂 . Thanks Johnny
Well good, about time !! Lol maybe they could send me a spiff for addressing the issue 🤣🤣👍🏼
@@johnnysweekends they should 😀
Lol I agree!
Videos like these are the best parts of CZcams
I agree. This is not something a customer should have to deal with. These things are not cheap.
Thanks for this. Mine wouldn’t start at all out of the box and then I checked this plug. Of course it was not connected. Westinghouse customer service sucks, they offered no help and they know of this plug issue because I asked them. They pretty much said too bad.
Wow that’s crap they are not even addressing it with a warranty replacement or anything . I would have had them try a ship me a new one. You probably would have been able to keep the old. The. Have two..😁
chad would yours not push start or remote start because the plug? im having that issue and wonder if its that. it will crank start fine just not push or remote
@@Ohio19919 it would not start at all. So since then, I keep the screws off of the side panel where the carburetor is. The automatic choke doesn’t work and there is a small black lever beneath the carburetor. I have to manually push that to the side and then it will start. Then I have to side it the other way so it will stay running. After that it is fine.
Sounds like a manual choke on the Honda now… so weird.
Just got the 3700w, it’s DOA with this exact symptom. Gonna give this fox a try and report back!
Gezzz, still. I can’t believe this.
Yes please let me know
@@johnnysweekends definitely a bummer. I’m not mechanically inclined and looking at other replies the issue might be more than just the cable so I’m taking it to a repair shop tomorrow.
On the upside, amazon gave me a full refund. So I’ll be happy to spend some cash to get it running
Oh good. I can’t believe these are still having issues. Unacceptable
Thank you so much for your video! Thought I'd posted several months ago, but don't see it now reading thru the replies. Had this exact problem with my iGen4500 right out of the box back in July. Your video saved me A LOT of troubleshooting time. Plugged it together & it ran like a champ.
Since then I've had two other separate problems. Both in unfortunate times when I really needed the generator:
First was about three weeks ago, with about 75 hours on the genny. Had it running when suddenly began running rough. Figured it was a fuel/carb/choke issue again, so I pulled that panel. As I moved the choke linkage, I saw the electronics bolted on top were loose. Then I saw a bolt & a 1/4" long spring in the bottom of the genny case. Turning the throttle linkage, I saw another of the bolts was completely unscrewed and everything was loose. I had to pull that cover off and unscrew it all in order to figure out where the spring belonged. I tried calling Westinghouse tech support to see if there was any specific alignment for reassembly. What a joke! Just a call center where they take your info and maybe someone will contact me sometime. My guesses for reassembly worked & I made sure the bolts were tightened down. Genny ran well for several more nights.
Last Tuesday I stopped for the night to boondock at a Sam's Club. The batteries on my 5er are at least 2 years old & I suspected in need of replacement. I ran the genny to level out the 5er and got one of the slides out before I noticed the genny wasn't providing any power. The overload LED was NOT lit, but I remember resetting the circuit breakers. The "ready" LED didn't come on. I've pushed all the resets, shut everything down, disconnected the battery..., but I can't get the genny to produce power. The engine runs smoothly. I pulled off the front panel but don't notice anything specifically unusual. There is a (female?) connector with a red & a black wire that isn't connected to anything. And above the infamous choke wires, there is a tan wire with #4 label that isn't connected to anything. Nothing in either area that these look like they should be connected to.
Any ideas?
Tech support is non-existent. Got a case # assigned Tuesday night. No call backs. When I called again today (Friday) & followed the prompts for an existing case #, the operator confirmed I have an open case but said it hasn't been reviewed yet and there was nothing she could do to elevate it. Good thing it isn't an emergency!
Thanks for the comment and glad I could the first time around.
For the new problem and with our being there it’s hard to really tell except some basics things to look for.
Obviously the breakers…
The power cord that connects to the inverter board. It will have the biggest plug and thickest wires. Make sure it’s pushed in all the way. And check for frayed wires
Maybe try a 120 plug to see if any power there.
Also check oil level is all the way full which most times this will be a run or no run thing. But best to check the basics.
Also did the generator get wet.???
Hope this gives ya something to check.
@@johnnysweekends had a little misting while driving on Tuesday & I had left it uncovered in the bed of the truck. Didn't think it was enough to have affected it but...?
I had a Honda 3000 that would not run right after getting pretty wet. Then started to run right but red light on for a while and then boom good to go after I let it run and get hot and dry out.
I would double check inverter board connections and check for water inside around the front off inverter and make it is dry.
Maybe run it to build but inspect it for water I guess. I don’t remember if there is a fuse inside on that one as well…🤔
@@johnnysweekends Took it to an Authorized Service Center when I got back home. With my case # WH authorized them to diagnose the problem. Found the inverter was bad (ASC said was a common problem they were finding). WH replaced the whole thing. Replacement generator also did not have the choke properly connected. UGH!!
Wow awesome they replaced the whole unit, and really!!!! Still choke not connected? Gezz
I do feel you are right, you shouldn’t have to fix a new product, but this is half price of most other generators in this category. You have to give somewhere.
True, most people would just return it or exchange it. Good gen over all.
I just bought mine a few days ago. Haven’t started it up yet. Looks like I should look at this first. There’s no excuse for this to be a common problem.
I agree, it’s like there was a guy on Friday who forgot one thing and like a thousand went out…😂
@@johnnysweekends hahaha
Wow Johnny!! Thanks for posting this informative video! Great info to put out there to help people that have purchased this Genie. How did you come to the possible conclusion that the connector wire that was not connected was the issue with the rough running ? TIA
Thanks Scott glad I could help. Before I bought the gen I read a post that said they had a choke problem from some disconnected wire…🤷♂️ since the carb had electric choke and a stepper motor it was pretty simple to follow the wire to the unplugged control unit.
Thanks for the comment and thanks again for watching 👍🏼😀
Would love to see how to maintain it
4:32 yes, correct!
Does the carburetor choke matter for the propane use with the duel fuel or only when using gas?
Only gas. Propane is pressurized..👍🏼
👍 Westinghouse owes you 😜
Right!! Lol, where’s my check?? 😂
Hi I purchased one of these for auto detailing can you recommend a shot extension cord for the TT 30R plug with 3 or 4 115 outlets
There is this one, which is only a couple feet but then allows you to use normal extension cords that are cheaper. And this is 10g so will handle plenty of power especially for what you are doing.
Or you could buy a long one of these but they get spendy quick for 25ft.
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Thanks appreciate you getting back
Had the same problem on the pulsar branded 4500 watt generator... internals looks exactly the same
Same generator. Pulsar, onan and Westinghouse are the same unit just different outside and a couple features but over all same engine and unit for the most part.
Good video, thank you. Do you happen to know if this problem is occurring on every unit, or is it just random?
There was a batch I guess. I guess it was a shipping problem some said, I think it was a new guy who just forgot that day lol. So a few hundred probably went out.
@@johnnysweekends OK, thanks.
In your next video you should show me how to put the altitude kit on there.
I may do one as it will cover a lot of models…👍🏼
Can you tell me where can I buy the voltage regulator for this generator? Please
I find eBay has a lot of parts for a lot of different gens. A lot cross over as well as the same engine is used in a lot of different brands and models.
I wonder if there is a difference between the westinghouse and the cummins Onan. They look similar
Same exact gen but may have a different inverter board but other then that they are the same.
Got the same situation with a brand new generator, but mine stalls after opening choke more than 20%. I think the cause might be in step motor, could it be defective from the factory? and if you replace it - will the generator work normally when the air damper is opened?
If manually opened yea will be fine but that doesn’t seem right.
I would send back and buy another model honestly
going to see if this is the cause of my voltage drops!
Great vid. I thought this was my problem, but when I got in there, my auto-choke was connected. In my case (now that I know what I'm looking for), I can see it engage the choke and start up, but then it inexplicably opens the choke all the way, causing it to run rich, sputter and eventually stall. It will do that every start. (Note that this did not happen when I ran it last year or this spring. This is new.)
If I manually fix the choke, it runs fine. Obviously that's not ideal.
Any DIY suggestions before I engage what I'm sure will be a miserable warranty process?
Hopefully just a bad stepper motor verses the inverter board controlling the choke. Sad this unit is having issues still.
My electric start button stopped working no green light when you press it. It is 6 months old do these switches break that easily?
That does seem premature but I haven’t recommend this unit for a long time due to to many issues.
Nice video...thank you. Is this generator one that has recently shipped in last couple weeks? Just trying to determine if this is any different than earlier shipped units from several months ago. Also, does this have a floating neutral? Have you used a neutral bonding plug to work with your camper's Energy Management System?
I answered both your questions in a previous post you made...👍🏼
@@johnnysweekends Thank you Sir!
@@johnnysweekends a suggestion, both of those questions are good, could you include a link to where they are answered?
I can try and find it it’s in a comment he made somewhere…lol
I'm looking at this ig4500. What a pain. Did they fix this if buy one today? Thx
Honestly don’t know. I assume they built say…. 10000 units. They got shipped all over. 3000 have the issue but scattered through out the county and are sold here and there.
And maybe still stuck in containers from ships lol who knows.
I have people still come on about once every couple of weeks and say problem fixed thanks. So still a couple out there. But others have said everything is great as well. So luck of the draw..🤷♂️
So I’m assuming if my battery is dead, I need to take the cover off and manually choke the generator, correct?
Yes 👍🏼
Please can this generator voltage be changed from 120v to 220v?
No unless you plug into this then you can have 240split amzn.to/3QqESTQ
My problem is related to the choke but it is different. It starts but then rough or stalls. I checked all wires are connected properly. The choke seems to work properly as you describe. Once the motor starts the choke moves to the clockwise position that you show as making the generator work properly. For my machine however it begins to run rough at that moment and I have to rotate it about 90 degrees counter clockwise, but not all the way, and then it runs properly. Any ideas?
Yes!!! It’s been a common problem on some new generators that once ran and shut off from the factory they can sit for a while. And the fuel will not take long to crystallize in the small jet. It’s super small and plugs very easy.
So if it runs rough after starting and won’t run right but when you manually operate the choke it runs better, it means you are adding more fuel to the mixture and less air. So then it runs a little better. This pretty much let’s you know the low speed circuit is plugged and not getting enough fuel at low rpm.
Try this in the video I made and report back and see if it fixes it…👍🏼
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Having this exact issue with my generator. Same model same problem, really hoping this fixes the problem. Brand new generator really bummed this is happening. Thank you for the tricky camera work!!
Update: Having the same issue but my plug is already connected. I did notice the choke in the closed position, even after manually opening it no start. Did see another plug that wasn't connected but it wasn't a 10-pin like yours, something ive never seen before. Im just sending mine back as its been used TWICE, unacceptable.
Thank you! Let me know if it fixes it ..😀👍🏼
@@johnnysweekends Not sure what is still wrong. Both plugs are connected. Now generator won't even kick over. Contacting Westinghouse for a fix
Try a new plug for fun. The stock ones are just junk. I dont like torch. Grab a NGK as a last try and if not then yea. Sorry man i can’t believe these things are still having issues.
@@johnnysweekendshaven’t tried new plugs yet. But I reconnected those plugs mentioned. Now generator is making a buzzing sound near battery area (not kicking over) but while it’s trying to kick over I can see the auto choke moving. Dead battery now?
Gezzz this is the worst unit for problems just so many
will that wiring harness stop it from push button starting?
That I don’t know, sorry.
My guess regarding the lack of customer service and a lack of parts availability is because these are made in China and to resell them here under different brand names and the real focus is to ship them here to North America and just sell them as a disposable item with no other commitments
Some Honda dealers here selling Ducar generators. The outside panels, handles looks indentical to the Westinghouse. The engine one the Ducar is 224cc, the handle is the same. Hmm 🤔
It’s because it is the same. Some of these generators are the same for maybe up to 6 brands and models made by probably ducar. So they will make them for Westinghouse, onan, pulsar, and more and then there own.
Same with most other generators. Some may only have two that are the same like a champion and Wen. Same engine and inverter board, but out side plastic and features differ slightly.
@@johnnysweekends thanks for the info all Chinese made. I’ll get a EU2200 tomorrow! Then I’ll buy a Ducar inverter 4000W in case I need more power. For the Price they seeking and power that impressive a seems super quiet.
But I’m wondering if I should buy the companion instead the Ducar to match my Honda EU…
The dual eu2200 is a really nice setup because you can use one or two, and if for some reason one dies you still have another. Plus really easy to transport when you need two. And two will have more power then the one ducar.
Any suggestions for surging idle when the cables that you speak of in this video are already connected? We have 10 hrs on this unit - start it up every 4-5 months for 30 minutes. The last 2 times is has a "surge" up / down idle. Was so going the cables were not connected but that is not our issue. I did make sure the cable was seated firmly. Thanks for any insight you may have...
You will want to clean the low speed jet.
They plug so easy that most of the time that is the issue.
The low speed jet sits close to where the choke lever actuates.
It’s black and sits flat. Looks like a black Philip screw.
Sometimes a carb bolt may be in the way and it may have to be lossened or removed.
That small black plastic jet lifts straight out and is only held in with a oring.
A very small flat head can work or very thing small clamp to lift it up.
Once it’s out you need to shine a light thru it and see. If plugged which it probably is you need a very thin wire to poke thru it.
Or very very small needle. You don’t want to make the hole bigger or it will damage the original size of the jet making it bigger causing a rich condition or make it run worse overall at low speeds and idle.
Let me know if this helps.
Once you figure it out it about a 10 mins job..👍🏼
@@johnnysweekends Thank you for the response. Will take a look at this as soon as I can and will let you know!
Awesome be curious if that fixes it…👍🏼
Maybe I’ll make a quick video..😂
Mine surged a bit and then quit. Found out the bolts that hold the electronic actuators on top of the choke and throttle had all worked loose. One was out completely, laying in the bottom of the case, one was completely unscrewed but still in the oart and the third was just loose.
Thanks for this video. We suspected this was our issue but the choke is connected and working fine. We did find a random unconnected orange wire with a blue male connector. It has a 4 on it. Any ideas?
Not sure ….but did you try cleaning the low speed jet… will it run at all?
@@johnnysweekends no idea what the low speed jet is 😂 yes totally runs. it runs like it’s rough though. Every minute or two it sputters like the choke is closed but it isn’t. No load or with load it does the same thing. Going to hook it up to my trailer this weekend and see if it does same.
Watch this and perform this procedure and report back…👍🏼 let me know
Generator Idles up and down Surging DIY 5 Min fix!!
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@@johnnysweekends I found your low speed jet fix and will try that next weekend. Thanks so much!
You’re welcome hope it works, let me know..👍🏼
Hi! I just got the 4500DF and it doesn’t sound like it’s running right so I went to check for the choke but it doesn’t have one? I’ve looked over all the wires and everything is connected. Ive only run it on propane for now. Any idea what can be wrong? Thanks.
It should have a choke. At the carburetor there is a black tab that opens and closes ..
In the setup video of the Westinghouse I think I show a little more info on the choke being operated manually.
You can double check that.
And of course the choke is inside the panel opposite of the pull cord.
Hope this helps , let me know.
@@johnnysweekends I think I found it! But it looks different then yours. It’s on the bottom right of the black cap. I was able to manually switch it and sounds a lot better but it would not turn in automatically when I turn the generator on.
Oh sorry the choke does look like the one in the video. It thought it looked different for some reason. Maybe the harness is not connected, I will check. Thank you so much for your help and reply! Appreciate it!
Reply back and let us know.
Yours will look slightly different because of the dual fuel setup.
@@johnnysweekends there’s a bigger pin that’s not connected. I can’t figure out where that one is suppose to connect to since I’m not finding a place to plug that into. The smaller pin was disconnected and plugged that one in. The choke is turned on automatically now. Lol just confused about this bigger pin.
Mine worked fine for a year. now it's cool outside and on startup the choke moves all the way forward and kills the engine. IF i reach my finger in and catch it and pull it back a bit it stays running and I can release it and it will stay on. Any ideas w=on what the fix for that might be?
Wow that is weird. Not sure why it wants to stay closed. Does the generator run a little rough in the beginning ?
@@johnnysweekends I may have misspoke. It moves back and on startup it goes about half way then it wants to go fully forward. At that point it died many times until I stopped it from moving forward and let it run for a bit. Then after about 30-60 seconds it would stay running. It did run u and down "hunting for a stable idle. Once I put a load on it smoothed out. I changed the gas to fresh added seafoam to the gas and after running it more it will start from cold and stay running now. Still a little rough idle until it loads up but I plan on more thoroughly cleaning the carb. Hopefully that makes it good as new again.
Interesting well if it has a load and runs good then it’s possible the low speed jet could be plugged a little. Try this a let me know if it helps.👍🏼
czcams.com/video/g219A_ywyHs/video.html
pls any idea the parallel cable i can use to connect two westinghouse igen4500?
Honestly any… all they are is cables. I have a Wen that I connected two Honda’s. A predator and a Aipower and many other brands.
There is nothing special inside them. Just wires in a box. Don’t get the cheapest just something at a decent price that will work with your rated watts.
There is this which is 50 amp rated but hard to find up to 60 amps but your trailer is only rated at 50 as well just like being plugged into a Rv park.
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@@johnnysweekends i was wondering if getting wrong one might cause a problem .. because i wanted to get WEN GNA50i 50-Amp 6000-Watt Parallel Connection Kit but someone said that it wont work because the power output of the two will be too much for it, since its 6000 watt
That’s currently the one I have that is 50 amp rated and I can’t find a 60 amp yet which is what both those gens are capable of. Do you plan to max out both gens… is this for a RV..?
@@johnnysweekends No is not for RV but an apartment. But i guess i will order the one you suggested. Thanks a lot.
It should be fine unless your burning max capacity out of those both for a long time. You need to watch it though. Keep track of how much power is being used so you know when you are running a lot of items.
But those two gens for a apartment should be way more then enough unless your trying to run a home ac unit which both of those will not as they are not 240volt
The front panel display (digital data center) on mine doesn’t even light up when the generator is attempting to start. After I press the on/off button it makes 2 attempts to start then it just stops. It doesn’t have the connection issue bc I checked and it’s still connected thankfully and I manually adjusted the choke as you did. Westinghouse customer service said someone will call me on Monday during business hours but I’m trying to troubleshoot on my own until then.
Unfortunately this unit continues to have problems. Look like a good unit at first but now I dont recommend. The onan would be better.
@@johnnysweekends thank you very much for your reply…I’ll look into that one…do you have any experience with the champion power brand?
@thetejp05 several of the champions are good. A couple are not.
@@johnnysweekends thanks man!
Mine is doing this choke issue, but i opened up the panel and its a different connector that is disconnected. Wish i could share a picture
Did you plug it in ..? If so did it fix it..?
@@johnnysweekends i cant find a spot where it plugs in. The harness you plugged in in this video is connected, though.
If i manually move the choke it works fine. Just a hassle to remove the cover every time.
There is also a single random orange wire zip tied to the post next to where the choke wire harness plugs in. Seems strange. Any ideas? Lol
Possibly could connect to the inverter board on the front of the gen verses side
Could look around there. Unfortunately you may have to take a little more apart
@@johnnysweekends thank you
Let me know what ya find
hey I just want to point out that now they have a service bulletin for this. they are blaming accidental disconnection during shipping is the culprit. I have personally inspected mine. there is NO WAY it can get disconnected during shipping as the cable gets locked in place. IF it does come out. it means that something broke.
A of course they are. Verses the harness being way to tight and someone just forgetting to plug it In or not enough.
I have king Canada, same as the Westinghouse, it starts and runs but bearly, it won't throttle up? Any idea what might be happening
I would start with the basics..
Clean or new spark plug
Clean air filter
Good fuel
Spark arrestor clean
Correct oil level.
Once these are all good then you can look into a dirty carb and maybe look into that.
@@johnnysweekends awesome, I'll check it
@@johnnysweekends checked all of it... Still not revving up! Just pup pup pupping.... No vroom?
So is the plug new or old??
Even a good looking plug can sometimes cause issues with enough hours and sometimes will surprise people for $3.50
And you removed the spark arrestor and it was clear?
If all that is don’t then I would go with a carb clean.
Small jet and main jet could be dirty
@@johnnysweekends 3yr old plug. I'll see if I have a new one in the garage. Thanks for all the help!
Hey guys. My gen keeps shutting off. And it says overload, eventho there is nothing plugged in. No circuit breaker was tripped, and i troed to reset it, still nothing... i really need help plz.. lmk... it runs for about 10 mins max, then Automatic shuts off
I think you have a inverter board problem. I would return if possible or call the company for replacement. How many hours?
@@johnnysweekends it only has 5 hours run time on it...
And yes it would shur down after 10 minutes. Overload light would come on, and Auto shutoff (red light) would be blinkink after it shut off. Then i try to start it, it kick up, and wouldnt start for 10 minutes....
Anyway, i did push in all circuit breakers, lressed reset last night... this morning its running just fine, been on for an hour. I did change the extension cord, and i think that was the problem. Lets see. Will keep you posted
Ahh yea the only other thing would have been a short somewhere. I didn’t know something was plugged in.
Yea let me know..👍🏼
@@johnnysweekends no it was still saying kverload with nothing plugged in. But it ran today for 5 hours just fine. I shut it off to put gas. Then its been acting up again
Are you over filling it…? Try new spark plug…I would try Westinghouse to see what they have to say
Interesting. I got a Westinghouse 3700 and out of box it will only run with choke on. I can move it back towards run a bit, but the second I put it in normal run it stalls. Do you think that is a similar issue ?
No I bet different issues. If choke needs to be closed to run, it needs more fuel, so I bet the low speed jet is already plugged.
I’ll send a link and try it to see if that works.
Here try this…Generator won’t start Idles up and down DO THIS 5 Min fix!!
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@@johnnysweekends Thank you so much for your prompt reply. I will try to get into this later and report back. Mine looks a bit different, but I think I can figure it out.
Yes let me know, I’m curious. 👍🏼
@@johnnysweekends A bit harder to get access to as it sits kind of under the plastic molding. But I was able to locate the jet and clean it as described. Unfortunately that didn't solve the problem. Bummer.
Northern Tool & Equipment Co. just advised today by phone that, due to non-payment of their invoices for the past 18 or so months they will no longer be performing warranty or other repair services on Westinghouse equipment. Evidently Northern have been doing a significant amount of warranty work on the iGen 2400 inverter-generators to correct a number of issues including the automatic choke electrical disconnect problem.
I’m pretty sure the igen 2400 does not have electric choke. It’s manual on a twist knob .
But either way Westinghouse doesn’t make the generator anyway. It’s just a sticker or a print on the plastic which all they did was put a order request of the specs they want.
Thanks for the heads up 👍🏼
I also didn’t know Northern Tool was carrying Westinghouse
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Has Westinghouse fixed this problem? It's October 2022.
😂😂😂 I have no idea! I sure would hope so and I don’t get as many comments as I use to about there generator did this.
Honestly I would get a champion or something else..😀👍🏼
Has this been fixed from the factory?
I think because I don’t see people needing help as much….. could be a couple left but I wouldn’t think so 🤷♂️
You can use a glue gun to put a dab on it to keep it connected.
This is not a new problem. Mine is the same. How do they not fix this at the factory?
I heard it was a shipping thing, but hard to believe it would wiggle loose. They said it wasn’t pushed in all the way.
@@johnnysweekends Weird because nothing else was “wiggled loose” and considering how much protection is around it I find it hard to believe. I still love it though. Just got it yesterday and your video was 10/10.
Yea I do t think it was shipping as well. Just a bunch of gens on Friday before the last hour and someone bailed early.
“Are those generators done?” Uhhh yea .. yea they are ready….🤣🤣
Thanks as well for the comment and thanks again for watching 😀👍🏼
I was lucky my wiring harness was connected from the factory.
Nice wonder if it just was a certain batch and then of course shipped all over.
Generac 2200i vs Honda eu2200i or similar please.
Yessssss
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Lol well I guess that’s something…😂👍🏼👊🏼
Glad I could help..👍🏼
checked the wire harness, and it is strapped in with a zip cord. Still will not start
Try to manually choke it then open it manually. If not contact Cs
@@johnnysweekends yeah, tried that. Does not work. Even when I try the electric start, it just buzzes and clicks, the motor does not even try to turn over. I think the thing is defective. Also, customer service is a joke at Westinghouse. Not even going to waste my time with that. Thank you for getting back to me
@bbigaouette you did try to pull start it right? And manually choke it?
Battery could be dead
@@johnnysweekends yep did all that. It would start to turnover then die after the first pull start, then absolutely nothing after multiple pulls. I just took the unit back and got a refunded. Got sick of messing with it.
shame too, I did a lot of research on this unit and got reviews all around. Guess I did not do enough.
It just ain't the same Westinghouse like it used to be . . .
Man so many companies are like that.
🤦🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
WTF. Why is this not in reviews? So my gen has to be torn into after I already mounted on my RV.
This is only a few of the units …so most don’t have a issue.
It’s in my review..🤷♂️
Very important. The connectors get corroded, over time. Put dialectic grease both on the pins, and the front side and back side of the connectors where all wires are. Both the wire. The pins, and the connection between all of them will disintegrate over time. Also, moisture inside the box can be alleviated by putting some rice inside of a sock or something.
That is complete BS that you would have to do this on a brand new unit. I would be super pissed off if I had to do this.
Yea this was definitely not a good run for them as several units had problems. Every-once in awhile someone chimes in on here about there unit that had this problem. Im surprised it still happens.
Unfortunately poor customer service and warranty from this group.
Have the same issue on mine that I got today.
Asians must hate us.
😂 will I hope you could fix it easy..👍🏼