French MP explains protests (in English)
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
- Antoine Léaument is a French MP for the left-wing La France Insoumise. He spoke to us from the streets of Paris outlining why the French are protesting the increase of the retirement age, how Brits should protest the Tories and what's next for Emmanuel Macron.
Reporter: Ava Santina
Camera: Oli Dugmore
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*when you pay some attention:* "The system is broken and needs to be fixed."
*when you pay enough attention:* "The system is working exactly as intended and needs to be destroyed."
Well stated
Viva la France
i need to check something. The measure pushes the retirement age up in France from 62 to 64, correct? In England it's 66 i believe. Is there at any point going to be riots here in a bid to pull down the retirement age? Or is the problem more so that Macron pushed this measure through undemocratically?
It is not Brocken it is working as intended it was not intended for the purposes you think they are intended .
@@odinallfarther6038 Go deh !
In Germany, we have to slave away in our jobs until 67yo. And they are discussing 70. You won't notice any uproar. Also, the pension I will get is lower than the rent of my flat, even though the state is taking close to 20% of my wage each month. The 20% are for the pension alone. The state is taking way more than that.
I won't have a place to live when I cannot work anymore.
In Germany, tear gas masks or any other thing that can protect you from police violence is illegal to carry if you are taking part in a demonstration. Our oppressors call it "Schutzwaffe", meaning "protection weapon". They call helmets and gas masks weapons. Democracy, my arse.
Protection weapon xd omg
Sadly, many people think the Deutsche Rentenversicherung System is completely fair and a great thing. I got a dressing down by someone the other day because I brought up the fact they are potentially pushing the age to 69, and I advised someone who is just starting to work to not pay more than necessary into the Pension system, but instead to save as much as they can in a private fund.
In France also these objects are prohibited. But we don't care.
But if you are afraid of tickets, use the treatment against red eyes "Visine". It neutralizes the ocular effects. For respiratory problems, an anti C0v1d ffp2 mask with a lemony finger rinse unfolding inside is quite effective. 🇩🇪🤝🇫🇷
A lot of policemen in France arrest people for having masks or even sterile saline to protect against teargas. They can be classified as "weapons by destination", because they assume you have them because you plan to refuse to follow police orders of evacuation. Even if it eventually doesn't stand strong for an eventual case, you'll still spend 2 days in a police jail.
Well done France. A people who are determined to stand up for their rights.
As for the UK?
Passive, weak and desperate for subjugation...easily manipulated and ultimately doomed in the new world.
I look around and see people subjected to horrendous energy prices (unparalleled anywhere else in the world), who are happy about it and see it as a weird sign of fortitude... and a government delighted that their citizens will once again cheerfully shoulder the burden of financial mismanagement.
Look old chum our energy prices are not the most expensive just turn your heating down or off like we used to do and put on another vest !
Listen to Macron and get back to work.
The more we do it the easier these will become. Overcome the fear of the first time and we will do it again and more. The fear of a police beating or violence against protests kicking things off is always there, but nothing will happen if we don't at least try
If the public is ignorant, then ?
If french donot want to work,then hindus and Chinese are working hard at low price.then Europe have to beg.
Excellent interview Antoine, it was nice to see some real news without all the propoganda .. good luck to all the French citizens! Support from Australia
Except work is a bad word in France. I used to live there. The French are proud if they can beat the system and don't need to work. That is the French attitude.
Ehm, there are many things people can protest against, but having one of the lowest retirement ages in the EU, and increasing it by 2 years is not a good reason.
Instead of protesting this almost rational change in retirement age, they should start protesting the ridiculous centralization France has.
@@sciencefliestothemoon2305 Guess what! When you retire later you are too old to enjoy much of anything! Especially if you've been doing hard physical labour your whole career... your body is rooted. Life is to be enjoyed not just to prop up your countries GDP
@@ljcomments886 2 years later doesn't do much. At the same time the money for the pension has to come from somewhere, on top of that we get older and older healthier.
The points to discuss are a) people who want to work longer b) people who want to work a bit during retirement c) people who had hard physical labour and have to retire early or accidents and d) people who never were able to work
Then there are minor things such as equal retirement age for men and women, women having their parenting time credited to their retirement.
And probably a couple of points I missed.
@@ajg867 Of course, and i can say that british are drunk 24/7 OR MAYBE you can use the goo between your ears called a brain and try to think by something beyond stupid cliché
That's what the British should have done. They are going to work us until we die. Most of my friends have died before pension age. It's disgusting.
Work us to the bone; the threat of starvation keeps us from leaving. The basis of wage slavery.
people fought and died to put the power back in the hands of people. People have now lost that power and it is in the hands of private companies. We have all lost what our families fought and died for. Vive la revolution.
How else do you expect to pay for Ukraine and millions of illegal migrants? You need to work harder to support Ukraine 😏
@@sigmaputin6888 that's nothing to do with this issue. French perfectly happy to have tyranny end from Russia and keep there pensions.
I would say France one of the few countries were people stand up to companies
@@murphy7801 Of course it is where do you think all this money comes from a magic money tree or a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow?Cutbacks must be made and unfortunately it’ll come out of french,German,USA,British citizens pockets.
@@sigmaputin6888 look at your own nation filled with churkas and chinese lmao
solidarity with you mate, he's right we need to stand up.
Yep, who wants to pay for all those migrants to lie about all day and pop out more lazy hungry people!
This is so needed through out the world.
Vive la révolution!
Vive la Résistance!
Vive la République!
You have to ❤ the French!
when the parliament of a country no longer looks after the rights and freedoms of the people then the people have a right to revolt and overthrow the government i just wish the UK had the guts to do the same.
Vive la Revolution! I hope the French are successful. I wish the people of the UK would protest against the government as they are / have taken all our rights away.
The subjects of the U.K. will protest on social media sites as they type away furiously like Banshee's
Macron is pretty good compared to the tories.
Atleast french energy has been nationalised.
Change is inevitable and necessary, it'll come to the UK soon too. The whole facade of the system has been ripped off and everyone can see its rotten underneath.
The French at least have some balls to stand up to the government when they attempt to trample their rights in the UK though people just went "yeah whatever" and happily sipped on their tea and drank their pints and look at what happened.
Solidarity to the working class of France,your fight is all our fight,just a pity we can't grow a spine here in the UK.
And they'll say we don't have one either, when all our backs are destroyed through over work, and there will be no NHS to help our back problems, when we all retire at essentially 70 / die as they want us to before that point.
There are many ways to make a difference
@@user-SubvurzIV in the case of many of these matters in the UK, it's a case of closing the stable door, after the horse has bolted. No government will ever reduce the retirement age here, they will only ever increase it. They obfuscate to the nth degree, and all parties, as much as they argue, are broadly on the same page. Protests like this would have little effect on matters once settled in the UK.
Non-violent civil disobedience is needed in so many parts of the world.
what if the authorities become violent?
@@BOZ_11
It shows them up for what they are a lot quicker.
What do you suggest as an alternative ?
@@dondoodat My question wasn't rhetorical
@@BOZ_11
Neither was mine.
@@dondoodat then answer it
Massive LOVE to you Parisians and the French people!
Trying to be like America regarding education, healthcare, retirement, environmental is THE LOWEST BAR. DO NOT become like American who come to think the high point of living is plastic cheese and macaroni out of a box.
When are we in the UK going to say enough is enough on our pension age continuously rising?
We should learn from the French.
Life expectancy is factually dropping
But retirement age is rising every generation. Enough!
no we should use the money to fund the NHS. The failing NHS is not an excuse to work less. with a functional NHS we shall all live longer and be healthier and therefore lead more productive lives.
@@Jay_Johnson I would go for that... if I were naive enough to think the NHS would get it...
We need to think outside the old Left v Right paradigm.
Also with robots, computers... the workers productivity grows faster than life expectancy.
An excellent man, that MP! All power to him, and more of the same of him please, on both sides of the channel, and across the globe.
Vive la France
Vive l'Ecosse! Vive la France! Vive la vieille alliance entre nos deux peuples!
We'll done. I was shocked by the state of Paris when I visited two years ago. So sad, it was magnificent just a few decades ago.
If peaceful protest is stopped violent protest is inevitable. JFK
This is great to see! All power to the French people!👍👍👍 You would never see this in the UK - we just sit at home and moan!
Im sure the same will happen in UK one day, UK workers made enough sacrifice imo.
For 3 days, some live videos in Paris of "small" independent journalists or amateurs are no longer accessible on you tube... strange, isn't it? thank you for showing us these pictures.
We need to learn from this. Starting with catered protests.
We need some of that French spirit over here to reign in the far-right fascists in our government! No wonder our retirement age is going up to 68 while theirs is 62, French people are willing to stand up for their rights!
Solidarity
All Solidarity from german Comrades!
The square outside the Pompidou lovely spot for a protest. 👌
Listen to this man. The British people need to do what the French are doing,why should I and many other people have to work longer to pay for the immigrants, because that's what it's about
Great coverage Politics Joe VIVA LA REVOLUTION! ✊
We are about to find out what happens when an unstoppable force meets an unmovable object 😅😅
I heed your call sir.
Keep it up bro
Unleashed the guillotine
I don’t understand French but Antoine Léaument a un très bel accent.😇
Anarchism is a tool of liberation for society as a whole
6th times the charm. Sixth Republic let's go. Sharpen those pitchforks.
La France Insuomise is a fitting title.😅
VIVE LA FRANCE!
I see police doing the aggressive behavior!
Retirement age should be 50, big state forcing billionaires to pay fair tax will pay for it.
Solidarity. Work kills more ppl than smoking.
Agreed. People should be able to have money and be free from work at an early enough age that they can still live their life. If we're not careful we'll be having to work into our 70's before we can leave. Even then the pension payout is too low.
Tax the rich and work on tackling the billions lost in fraud and we'll be able to pay for it.
People are currently being treated like slaves until they die in order for the rich and powerful to do well.
Enough is enough!
A retirement age of 50 would be a really great way to bankrupt our state pension pot. We are living longer and longer and requiring more and more care in later life, we can’t pay people to live for 35+ years after
@@bankmanager
Currently life expectancy is dropping in the UK.
@@dondoodat suicide in men age 16 to 25 is a huge factor. If they feel like they have no future. Who wants to work there whole life
@@murphy7801
Sadly mental health hasn't been taken seriously, also many of those suffering from it have been raised to call others snowflakes when the subject is raised.
Now we have men latching on to Jordan Peterson and Andrew Tate thinking that they have the solutions, which they so obviously don't.
You are brave people keep fighting till victory
Vive la Révolution !! We are paying attention what's happening in France!!
Us in UK need to be supporting the strikes and stop moaning
Why does America not support the French people? Why European countries do not do anything against the French government and do not support the people?
Greetings to the brave people of France👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
What about German MEPs Freund and Koehler paid by Gazprom?
Best man
So this is what a democracy looks nowadays? Enough.
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french police really shows they are willing to stand up for Klaus Schwabs Boy Macron!!!
Please Lord let the world see this violence
We don't have a left wing in the US, please never let up France!
There are snacks at French protests lmao
There are snacks at British brothers too. Depends who's protesting. Many occation I've been handed crisps, fruit and water haha
@@Bibibi1990 yeah but the fact these were turning into riots the other day and now they’re out there with kettle chips. Gotta respect it
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Not sheep like the British.
Speak for yourself.
Les Britanniques sont plus lucides que nous, ils sont sortis de l'UE.
At some point we're gonna have to accept that the french are better than us
You need to understand what has happened in France.
Most countries used the recent period of low interest to reduced national debt, but France actually increased it debts as it used record low interest rates to keep up a standard of living it cannot afford.
At the start of the millennium, France’s total public and private sector debt burden was 186.7% of GDP. By the end of 2021, France’s debt-to-GDP ratio had risen to 347.7%.
Public sector debt has increased from 59.3% to 113.3% of GDP.
Household debt has doubled as a portion of the economy from 33.9% to 67.1%.
French corporate debt has grown from 93.5% to 167.3% of GDP
France now has the highest debt in the eurozone. It also has one of the highest structural deficits in the developed world, estimated at between 3% to 4% of GDP.
Just as alarming as the ratio is the total amount of accumulated debt. France now owes a staggering $3.3trn, and that is expected to rise to close on $4trn by 2027 as the country carries on spending more than it raises in taxes year after year. That is the third largest national debt in the world.
Everyone is getting worried about the situation. Ten years ago Standard and Poors dropped the French credit rating to AA+. But France continued to borrow, a;ways Des-state to keep up that standard of living.
But interests rates have started to rise. the debt is getting much more expensive.
In December last year S&P Global cut France's outlook to "negative" from "stable".
Pretty soon France will be consumed by its debt, just like third word nations are.
It can’t even fix the problem. It is in the Eurozone so it can’t allow its economy to float down to a better rate. The only answer is to cut the standard of living - and the people refuse to accept it.
France is doomed.
But this is all the Elite's fault but they still want to hide their mistakes and will not acknowledge them. Plus they want to maintain their quality of life at the expense of the middle class. That's why we want justice
Don’t worry for us. We French people can decide for ourselves !
And by the way…. We heard this kind of speech since the eighties, good thing we didn’t stop and fought for our rights no matter what.
What is the point of living if governments decide that your only purpose is to work and spend all your wage for the growth of the economy and then when you can’t work anymore you can die cause you become useless and we don’t want to fund you anymore !
If this economy system is no good, it should be changed, people are not just a labor force and a serial number in a graph
Maybe make it a 64 year plan. Those alive today 62-born tomorrow 64. Their problem 😮
French revolution Part 2
I congratulate Antoine on his level of English, but it’s a shame you didn’t challenge him on his parties actions during the examination of the law in the assembly, where they attempted to hijack proceedings by pushing thousands of tiny amendments, meaning opposition parties didn’t have any chance to really challenge the text, such as the clause 7. His party are not credible, as seen this weekend with their involvement in the riots in Sainte Soline, and defending their member who was condemned for violence against his wife.
When the government decided that there would only be 4 weeks for such an important law, they already had in mind that all amendments would be rejected anyway
First they should have consulted with the unions and other parties and come together with a mutual compromise project to discuss and vote
Also pensions law should not be part of social security budget law, they used this trick to be able to use 49.3 and said since early 2019 that they will always use 49.3 for pensions laws no matter what (then it was pensions based on point system scenario that was dropped in the end)
Please forget about news on TV and inform yourself with independent media not funded by private group and read economist report as well as study our law system.
Also some journalist are honest enough to say out loud what was said « off » with members of government and you’d be surprised !
Having people work till 64 is bringing very cheap labor in the market, the « not retired yet with no unemployment » will have to accept working jobs nobody wants because it’s one hour here and there (you spend more on gas to go to work than what you are paid for) and very poorly paid
Companies will be able to tell young workers, well I pay you the minimum wage because if you don’t accept, I have « more experienced people » (meaning the senior) that are willing to be paid minimum wage (they will have to work till 64 so they will have no choice) so you young worker with no experience are worth even less than that !
OPEN YOUR EYES !!! Be informed !!!
They didn't want to challenge the text, they wanted the text to be thrown away. Which was the right strategy.
Why would you want to examine the clause 7 and not the 1, the 2... up to the 20, since there are 20 articles in the text ??
Don’t talk to me like I’m a child. I’ve lived here for 13 years, I pay my taxes and I have the right to an opinion. It’s not about being opposed to the law, but how to be opposed. Frankly, the insoumis are not a real credible opposition. It’s just childish student politics. We need a real left wing to challenge and be capable to for a gouvernement.
@@EllaCaspian a liberal institution like the assemblé national will never provide the tools to genuinely challenge these governments and hold the state to account.
That's what the unions are for.
Do not wish for a left wing party in the assemblé. Wish instead for power to be mobiliséd and harnessed through the unions, who do hold the leverage in challenging the rich and powerful.
I'll take la CGT leading this movement and dictating terms upon victory over a genuinely left wing party in the assemblé national, or in government subject to the legislature, which is limited by the liberal-conservative ideology underpinning its foundation.
I'll take Sophie Binot any day over Mélenchon, Lament, and even Roussel.
Stereotypes arent based on reality
French guy: errrrrrrrrr
I’d like to hear you give an interview to the media in French. Presumably you must be a fluent and elegantly flawless speaker of at least one second language to be writing such a condescending comment. 😂
@@allip4226 my guy, it was literally a joke calm down
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a democracy by definition is majority rule. not violent minority rule.
""Violent minority"" there is so few of them that when they go on strike entire country gets paralyzed
Majority of the people in France are against this law, so where is the democracy ?
@@hijr_439 the majority voted for Macron in an election. that’s where.
@@danh5637 To avoid Le Pen. And then Macron didn't get the majority in the assembly. And then they used the 49-3 article to pass the law brutally, because they knew they would lose the vote (and there is a long list of huge problems in how they handled all this since the beginning: illegitimate and probably unconstitutional use of the article 47-1, plain lies about about the reform which were debunked, etc). 70% of the French, 93% of the active population, all syndicates are against the extension of the legal age. The government has no legitimacy to brutally impose the reform. Now we have a democratic and institutional problem. Not to mention the brutal, blind and arbitrary repression by the police. Many people are unhappy with the 5th constitution, which gives way too much power to a single person. There is still a possibility from the Constitutional Council though: they might just cancel the law because of all the abuses of the government, and there is also a procedure to launch a formal petition which could lead to a referendum (it would need to be signed by 10% of the voters i.e. 4.8 millions, which has never been achieved before, but I think it would be easy this time). So it's not over yet!
And by the way, pension systems are very complex, you need to really know about the matter to have an informed opinion. Do you know we will have to work for 43 years to have a full pension? Don't think that everyone retires at 62 in France. The actual average retirement age is not so different from other European countries. The huge problem about the reform is that it concentrates most of the efforts on a small part of the population which already has a hard life. For a precise discussion going into details, you should listen to people like the economist Michael Zemmour (not to be confused with Eric Zemmour, of course).
What’s the point in protests if the law don’t change
an ageing population means a higher pension rate unless major, major reforms take place. Good luck to them
This is not a valid argument. There are many ways to debunk it.
@@delphzouzou4520 and what are they?
@@bilbofaggin5 Well, we could for instance stop decreasing incessantly the taxes paid by the biggest companies.
We could fight against the massive fiscal fraud which cost us roughly 100 billions € each year.
We could raise the minimum wage and all the salaries above, which would de facto give more money to the pension system.
We could pay the women at the same level as men for the same job.
Or finally we could also, if there was a hole in the basket, (which don't exist at the moment), pay individually a bit more each month to cover the bill.
Many solutions would be available instead of stealing 2 more years of life to everyone, There is far enough money to have a lower retirement age.
Our country has never been so wealthy in 2000 years.
And I don't even speak about the productivity which has been multiplied by 3 or 4 in the last 30-40 years.
So, if we create 3 or 4 times more wealth than 30 years ago, why should we work two three or five more years ??
Where did all this money go ?
Police officers are the least French things in France
France is up to its chest in debt. It’s living a lifestyle it can’t afford. It’s the millennial with the maxed out credit card.
Within 5 years France will be threatening to default on payments in an attempt to extend terms (although it won’t be worded like that).
The ECB won’t be able to help because Germany will have ceased to have existed as a manufacturing nation.
The IMF will help but only if France makes dramatic changes - including stopping these early pensions. Macron is trying to avoid that humiliation.
BS
The rise in productivity (and the several reforms they already did previously) have more than compensated for the demographic change, the real issue is that the capital, the shareholders are taking a larger and larger share of the wealth produced.
Furthermore, in France, the Retirement Orientation Council (which works for the first minister) already stated that there is only a small temporary deficit planned, nothing much, and this temporary deficit has only been made up by the government's recent deletion of contributions (on overtime etc.)
Macron loves to give tax giveaways to the big company and the wealthy (and that's what ruins the state budget) but 25% of the poor men are already dead at 62 (the current retirement age) and now, because they created a tiny hole on purpose, they want the people to retire at 64+ so the poor pay for the rich pension and die before they can even benefit from what they contributed.
In addition, there is already a lot of unemployment, especially for young and old, so the increase in the retirement age is absurd, a lot of old people will end up to the unemployment office which will also be expensive and the young will have even more difficulty to find work.
Macron himself said in 2017 that it would be hypocritical to do such a reform lol.
@@synkaan2167
Rise in productivity???!?
It has fallen in France...
@@rosshilton Why can't you just check fact before you spill your bullshit ?
Productivity has double in the last 40 years.
www.lemonde.fr/blog/piketty/wp-content/uploads/sites/49/2017/01/PikettyBlogLeMonde03012017DataF1F9FR_Page_1-768x543.jpg
@@rosshilton Lol, just this year, our pension system is in the green for 3 billions €.
You don't know what you're talking about.
And if ever there was a problem, 100% of the people would prefer to pay more than working 2 more years. Obviously.
Why french don't want to work?
Imagine being this dull and acting in bad faith over this
I can explain to - Macron did not expect to pay 600 % more for the US gas and sending military gear to Ukraine and donating funds - well it is expensive so you french better work little more hahahah
Yes, let others (Netherlands, Scandinavia, Germany) pay for the fact the French don't want to work longer (2 years) even though their Pension system is already one of biggest money pits in all of Europe. The French are all about themselves, solidarity is out of the window. The French should actually be ashamed of themselves
Fight for your rights instead of bullshit. I don't see how the pensions of the French have anything to do with the pensions of the Netherlands, Germany or others. Each country manages its pension system as it wishes since these are personal contributions (it is a part of the salary in France). These are financing choices. In France, the share of GDP devoted to pensions is higher than in Germany. It is a choice made by Germany. Everyone makes their choices. What are you waiting for? that the French are coming to fight for your pensions? If you are not able to take charge of your destiny, then stay hidden behind your computer and stop complaining about the French who have the courage to defend themselves. When the French pension system you obviously know nothing. It is doing well, there is a surplus of more than 3 billion euros. The government wants to change things because it would like the French to subscribe more and more to private insurance and it would like to use this money for something else
@@sabinenadal8470 I am waiting for the French to not longer pay into the EU, meaning countries that do have their things in order need to pay even more into the EU budget. The French are already spending less per capita than all the coutries I mentioned and it will only get worse. But, like I said. Everything you said is only concerning the French and how terribly bad they have it (which is better then most of Europe). No solidarity form them with the rest of EU, only thinking about themselves and their desire not to work. And you have a pension system where the current workers are paying for the current pensioners. So, it might be part of the salary, you are not paying for yourself. You don't even understand what you are talking about. And my country has the best pension system in all of Europe, so if you really want to talk like that, you should be the one that should perhaps take a backseat and let the adults talk
@@ajg867 How long should a person work before they retire and why? This is assuming that the average life expentancy is 82.18 years, remembering that people who work physically demanding jobs tend not to live as long people working in other sectors plus they tend to have more physical ailments, also factor in quality of life and discrimitaion in hiring/hirability of people in their 50s.
@@Brobert1996 And that's a question you should ask the experts. Or do you think Macron just came up with this all by himself? He wants to be seen as the bad guy? No, but he knows the pension system in France is no longer fit for purpose. People live longer, the baby boomers are dying of, meaning less workers paying for more retirees etc etc. But the French just stick their head in the sand and want things to remain the same without acknowledging the problems. Meaning everyone else in the EU will have to pick up their slack (again). It is extremely selfish from the French populace as a whole
Don't drag their rights down to your level, FIGHT to get a better deal for you, for all workers.
How else do you expect to pay for Ukraine and millions of illegal migrants? You need to work harder to support Ukraine 😏
Oh a Russian idiotic bot
Nous ferions beaucoup d'économie si nous gardions notre 💸
@@issou-gp5tu English?
@@sigmaputin6888 I said we'd better keep our money than waste it unnecessarily for the others
@@issou-gp5tu Yes excellent someone on this channel actually has some common sense.
You guys have all of my respect.
les hôtes américains diront à Macron de disperser le rassemblement et leur chiot castré Macron le fera en léchant les talons de Biden