Why I sold my Honda Goldwing for the Indian Challenger
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- čas přidán 22. 09. 2022
- This week on MCrider I will talk about why I sold my 2018 Honda Goldwing Tour for a 2022 Indian Challenger. We will also look at some special features I installed on the Indian Challenger that make this unlike any other motorcycle on the road. ;)
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What the world needs now is ....... Humour sweet humour !
And a two foot long New Orleans Style Daiquiri. :)
I bought my first Indian motorcycle last December and I have never had such a comfortable and ease of management on a motorcycle before, I am so happy and glad I made this purchase. Indians rock! PS I am 74yrs old and I have had many motorcycle brands throughout the years and Indian has first place 🥇 in my life!
Thanks for sharing
God bless you sir
I was in Las Vegas, NM and saw a fella with a roadmaster and I asked if if he ever rode Harley;s and he said forever but after getting the Indian, he’d never go back. He said it was better balanced than Harley. I rented a chieftain and preferred it to Harley. Harley so scared that they won;t allow Eaglerider to rent Indians anymore or paid them not to
Another great video Kevin! I love the looks of the Challenger, Indian did a great job on the design of it.
You are what I want to be if I can manage to get to that age. Keep rippin’
I love that Goldwing doesn't need to look or act like anything but itself. HD and Indian are nice but Goldwing is a giant step ahead.
Haha have you ridden a Indian?
im planning to get the challenger. i know goldwing is better but challenger looks better in my opinion. id be way more happy with the indian.
i hate the look of goldwings engine.
Nice bike - the Challenger sure has a great look, personality and flair.
I love that you were able to describe bike selection as a freedom of
personal choice ....especially pertaining to the bikes we ride.
Rid'em all and love the one you own.
Thanks for the dose of humor and have fun with your new ride!
I have had nothing but grins and smiles since getting my 2022 Challenger back in January. I traded in my 2018 BMW 1200RT for it. It definitely has a different attitude from any other bike I've owned in my 45 years of riding. Quite frankly it is a refined American Badass Bike.
Right on
My wife and I spent a week in Jamaica this past February and we met a guy from Minnesota that was a senior design engineer for the Challenger project. It was cool to visit with him about it.
You are a goofball! Who knew? You had some real fun with this one. Made me smile early in the morning. Love your work and follow all your videos. Thanks for what you do.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Excellent video and information as always!
I bought my 2020 Indian Challenger right from factory and took delivery on August 23rd 2020. Over all it is the best bike I have owned so far, I have owned 37 bikes so far. Only things I changed are exhaust, air breather, ECU tune and crash bars. I added Cobra exhaust because they were cost effective at the time and look great. I added K&N breather and the "stage one air" from Indian. Installed non OEM crash bars. Then added the best part, Lloyd'z ECU CRT-V1 tune. The bike is fast, handles great, and has long ride comfort, oh and it has great braking. For me, this is a keeper. Enjoy the ride and keep the shiny side up.
Great episode Kevin! Love both bikes, heck, the Road King was cool too! Glad your enjoying it!
Riding my 2019 Roadmaster never fails to get compliments everywhere I go.
Beautiful bike. Personal choice will always win out. No such thing as the 'wrong kind' of bike.
100%
Well, I don't think a new rider should get on a 1000cc super bike.
Congrats on your new ride. It’s stunning!!!
Kevin, you're a genius! Love the hotdog feature but I'll wait until 2023 so I can get the ice on my apple pie. Congrats on the new bike.
🤣Hilariously delivered! I like Indian's too. Really wish I'd bought one instead of a Harley, especially since they are made in USA, maybe I will sell my Harley and get one. Thank you for sharing your sense of humor with us. Love it!
A stock Indian beats any stock Harley in gearbox smoothness, refined ride, balanced with the torque. After test riding the Indian Chieftain Dark Horse, I was sold and bought one. Your analogy is bang on, best of both worlds, middle of the spectrum.
The road glide from Harley is my preferred touring bike I love the shark nose design of the fixed fairing and how comfortable the suspension is
Love the video! Thanks
So glad to see you jumping on an Indian. I've tried telling so many non-believers how awesome they are... all the power and features. Gotta spend 15k minimum to make a road glide perform near the challenger.
AFTER spending more to get the HD out of the dealership, than you did for the Challenger in the first place.
@@danielstewart7732 yes.
Very clever and well done. Appreciate the humor and unique approach as always. All great choices!
Loved this video Kevin! Great perspective and awesome humor!
We test rode an Indian before we purchased our current Harley, but that was before they had the Challenger. My wife didn't like the passenger seat as it sloped forward toward the driver. The dealer indicated that could be fixed with a new seat...but at our cost of course...
I think you bought a dang fine motorcycle. Not because I necessarily like or dislike it or, your neighbor told you he liked it. You bought that bike because it was right for you. At the end of the day, that’s what matters. Congratulations on your new beautiful bike. Enjoy it and ride safe. If there was one thing I could change on that particular pick it would have been color. Lol. Cleaning black vehicles is tedious plus I think a brightly colored bike gets seen more. I can’t wait for your reviews on it. 👍
Grats on the new bike! I love my 2021 Challenger Dark Horse. It's not a perfect bike, but most of my complaints about it are very easily fixed with software updates. They've already fixed several of my issues I had with it. Still have some work to do with the Ride Command though.
Very entertaining video and nicely done. I am fortunate to have both a 2018 Goldwing and 2021 Challenger. Both are fun to ride and have different personalities . Cheers!
This video answered every single question and doubt I had about trading in my goldwing for a Indian. Thanks for the video
Congrats!
Never heard of the hot dog option, on the old Triumphs there was a button that automatically dispenses all the oil when you park.
@@scot6089 it just makes sure the bike gets fresh oil.
Pffft. Hot dog and oil dispensers…..a Harley dispenses a chest full of tools (cause you’re gonna need em)
Love the comparison. I’m definitely a Harley guy, but if I had to pick a different bike I’d go Goldwing.
I know exactly what you mean. I have a Harley FXDF Fat Bob with stage II and short shots. It gives me the ‘attitude’ ride. I also have a BMW R1200RT with full touring top box and panniers that gives me the touring ride. I certainly like the HD brand and image but at the end of the day a bike is a bike 👍👍
Kevin the best part of this video is no doubt: the sound of the coins, thanks for your great humor !!!
I have a 2015 Chief. I love that bike. The only issue hurting Indian is dealer network. I wish you the best with your Challenger
AMF ownership H-D motorcycle's flavor = ROCKY ROAD
Funny!
I traded my 2012 Victory Cross Country Tour on a 2006 GL 1800 and wrote a check for the difference and it's all mine. Definitely like the independent steering and better Windmanagement on the Wing. It's just so smooth too.
Ice cream and philosophies 👍👍
"A life unexamined is a life only half lived"
I "Reflect" as I try different bikes AND push 82 how as I age my "Tastes" change 😅
I am thankful where I mostly ride ride 6 cars are a traffic jam.
I now consider smiles over miles but I look forward to finding the subtitle difference in bikes AND my own differences.
Physically and mentally.
This on a "Fixed income, and nearest service 150 to 200 miles away. THUS I choose older bikes sans "Electronics"
God Bless you for staying in the saddle! And there's a lot to be said about riding old bikes that are not troubled by electronic gremlins!
I own a 2022 Pursuit Premium that I bought in June from Heritage Indian in Rogers AR also and as of today (9-28-22)I have 9600 Miles on it and they did my mods of K&N air filter and Lloyd's tune and 2 into 1 Bassani. It has been the perfect touring machine. I have riden about 300,000 miles over the last 25 years touring all 48 states and Mexico and Canada mostly on a HD Road Glide and just the last 5 years on a 2017 Springfield Indian Chief. Hope to see you on the road ! Indian Built the Ultimate Touring bike ! Oh and I love Mountain Dew also !
I have been thinking about a Lloyds tune to improve the throttle response.
Congrats on the new steed! Safe travels!
Love it!! Have a safe, blessed weekend.
Thank you! You too!
I have an 18 DCT like the one you had. Same white color too. I’ve customized it to my liking so much I just can’t imagine selling it. The Corbin seat and full Helibar system has made it so darn comfortable for me I can’t think of owning anything else. It’s paid for, so that contributes to my love of the bike too. I would like to ride the Indian. It looks like an absolute torque monster. Thanks for the video.
You're killin' me... great show
Love ya! LOL Best CZcams review. Ever. I've been impressed with the Challenger, after 2 test rides. Likely my next ride. Keep up the great work!
I had a 21 GWDCT for almost a year. Liked it a lot, smooth controls, robust power, electronic suspension, took it cross country and back. The engine is incredibly reliable. But, I didn't like the worthless drop guards, and potential high cost to replace body components. I traded it in for a new 22 Harley SGST. Haven't tried an Indian yet, but for now, I'm riding a couple new Harleys.
Congrats on your new bike.
I bout fell out of my chair laughing when you opened up to reveal the hot dog.
Good One !
Congratulations on the new bike! Ride what you like; just ride.
I sure love my challenger. I had a victory vision before and I loved it, my only complaint was not enough horse power. The challenger definitely has plenty of torque and horse power and comfort.
Polaris,IMHO, builds fantastic bikes. And I feel touring bikes like the Vision, lead onto the tour-de-force of the Challenger & Pursuit models.
I have a chocolate Road King and a vanilla (or maybe swirl) K1600 GTL in my garage. Really enjoy both of them and my wife thinks the RK is gorgeous, loves riding on the back and would never allow it to be sold. I guess this is my solution to the flavors and a happy wife - two ice cream cones.
Very nice!
I very much like Indians but the lack of dealers and parts in Australia is a major concern if you breakdown outside of a major city. I would love to get an Indian Roadmaster but I'll stick with my Goldwing for all the reasons you buy a Honda for.
I'm a retread rider getting back into the sport by going back in time with a 1998 Honda Valkyrie Tour. The Valkyrie has such a presence that it always draws a crowd of onlookers. Many of which are dumbfounded to find out that it's 25 years old! Anyway I'm tickled pink as to how satisfying it is to ride my Valkyrie. On the other hand, however, at fifty nine years old, I'm also looking for some of the convenience , comfort, and safety features that are found on luxo-touring bikes today. Such as, heated seat & grips, cruise control, reverse, anti-lock & traction control. And not-to-mention audio, nav, & communication. Also, it would be an added plus if it was stamped with "Made in the U.S.A." and continuity of brand or model (Wing Nut!) loyalty. While I appreciate your analogy about chocolate, vanilla , and swirl ice cream, which led you to the Indian Challenger, did you consider any other tourer? Such as the Yamaha Venture, Kawasaki Voyager, or any of the BMW K1600 series? For me it seems that our Bavarian friends at BMW may have the closest with the R-18 Transcontinental. In so many ways BMW picks up where Honda left off with the Valkyrie.
Like you Kevin, I watch & read a lot of reviews on touring bikes as was the case with the R-18 Transcontinental. So when I recently had the opportunity to demo the BMW 's Uber tourer, it met my expectations. What did take me by surprise was how well my 25 year old Valkyrie held up. For me, my conundrum is not so much as switching ice cream flavors, but rather sticking with my "old fashion" flavor and adding some new fangle sprinkles & new assortment of goodies? Or walking across the isle and the new ready to go flavor with all the pre-package goodies included?
The engines on those are really cool looking imo.
It's not that crazy to keep two or three motorcycles. They take up a lot less space than a car
Congrats on the new ride! I’m real excited about the news I heard from my local Indian Dealer here in NY. Rumor has it NY shops will have models fitted with a pizza oven! LOL!!
Congrats again brother. Enjoy every mile!
Wow...I do like Pizza.
What a nice food menu feature on the Indian! Man, wish my Harley had that 😢
I bought my first Indian 3 weeks ago. I bought the Springfield. Sure wish they would’ve told me about the hotdog desert and drink option on challenger😂
Have loved my 2021 Challenger since picking it up on New Years Eve.
Excellent analogy regarding ice cream and personality of the bike! Very well put! And I laughed my butt off about the hotdogs and apple pie and all. That was clever and really funny! My Kawasaki gives me sushi.
If i get any space in my garage I want a mid-90s gold wing. I used to see them on roadtrips as a kid and thought they were so cool with their front brake cover
Great video! You've made me want to take a closer look at the Indian line up.
So far, I have really enjoyed mine.
@@MCrider Look forward to your long term review of it. Congrats on a beautiful bike
Bought my 21 RM last year and man what a bike best of both worlds indeed.
I ride a 2018 GW, non tour 6-speed...I don't think the Indian is for me, but, hey, I'm glad you like it! Love your videos!
Best explanation I heard
After that explanation It makes perfect sense! Very nice ride.
😂Love the video, the ice cream analogy-and of course your beautiful bike! Ride on and keep on “truckin”!!!
I'm so glad Polaris brought back the Indian marque to such a magnificent degree. They are making some wonderful bikes. I absolutely love my stunning 2019 Indian Springfield in steel gray and metallic burgundy! Cruiser Heaven, all day, every day!
The return of Indian is a fantastic American story. The whole motorcyle universe is all the better for it.
@@nelsonphilip4520 I concur.
Should've never killed off Victory in the process though. Both could've existed as they are entirely two different brands and styles.
@@derek17005 I agree, even some Victory dealerships could've thrived enough to also become Indian dealerships expanding the network.
Polaris did well with establishing the Victory brand and put themselves in position to revive the iconic Indian. I have to think that they thought long and hard before discontinuation of Victory.
In the aftermath of the "to big to fail", 2008 Great Recession crisis, all of the "Big Three" American auto manufacturers shut down one or more brands in their portfolio. Even the Motor Company ended up shutting down Buell. I figure it's all for the bottom line & sustainability.
Of course I, for one, am grateful that marques such as Indian, Triumph, & Royal Enfield have been revived. And I am even appreciative of Harley-Davidson's independence from AMF and it's return to prominence in the motorcycle universe.
I'm glad you touched on the important features of the bike. A good Apple Pie crust is essential.
Hilarious yet very informative sir! 🫡
I had the Sushi dispenser option on my Goldwing. How they keep it cold is the thing that I can't figure out.
What riding boots are those?
Lifetime supply of hot dogs.... LOL.
Kevin, you are such a jokester. I was laughing so hard I couldn't type for a couple minutes.
Do you miss the dct or were you bored with it?
Thanks for the laughs clever man. Well explained and fun. Enjoy it!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for another great video Kevin! Do you also have a Triumph?
Yes, I have a Rocket 3 and Speedmaster.
I saw your sticker on the windshield. I want one. How do I get one?
Still have my 2008 Wing. I am still on the fence which direction I will go when I am ready to upgrade. I test road an Indian Challenger fee years ago. It was very nice. Dealer support tho is 3hrs away unfortunately.
That’s not bad.
I am looking into getting my challenger soon.
😂ROFL!! Thanks, Kevin--it's great when one can start a Friday with a good laugh! BTW--does the radio only receive baseball game broadcasts? (Baseball, hot dogs, apple pie, and....Challenger?) All the best, Dan.
You have to choose a sport at install...I went with the NFL. ;)
I test riding the Harley Road glide and the Indian challenger and decided to go with the 2024 Honda Goldwing. I just love the sound of the boxer engine and smoothness for long hauls.For the price and all the technology you can't go wrong with a Goldwing.
Did you find the challenger top heavy like a Harley?
Excellent pivot from Masters degree to foot-tall margueritas!.
I am leaning toward a Indian springfield classic. I rode a Chieftain limited the othe day and thought it was a bit much. Would you say the challenger is a machine in the middle?
It's a 900-pound big bagger like the chieftain without lower fairings and the trunk/passenger seat. Front fairing is different, and I think that the challenger only has the water cooled twin.
YES...
Chieftain = biggest of the three
Challenger = Minus lowers and trunk/seat (fastest / most powerful bagger you can buy new without mods)
Springfield = Minus Front fairing & 100 pounds
Ok, so ya finally explained the switcharoo, I’ll except your reasons and APPROVE. 👍🏼
It doesn’t matter what I ride if you like it.
@@MCrider ….Great point.
Does Canada have a made in Canada brand and if not why not?
Awesome video!!!! The darkhorse has the chili dog option btw.
Good to know!
Great ice cream analogy, I use to look at women the same way, but since I got married, I only get chocolate, with lots of boldness and attitude! I sure miss that silky smoothness of vanilla ice cream.🎉
Wonderful summary!! My ride is a 2003 Honda Valkyrie 1500C F6 at 75 years old. I would definitely love to own an Indian as well. When I buy my next bike , it could very well be the Indian Challenger , because it's lighter and easier to handle in parking lots..The Goldwing is a superb bike, however , there is to much plastic and baggage for my liking..
BRILLIANT
I bought my first Indian a 2021 Vintage Darkhorse and I’m just mad I didn’t give Indians a shot years ago!
To each his own but I could never go back to HD now.
When you got to New Orleans I could no longer keep a straight face. Hahaha
Wow Kevin Perfect timing. I am so glad I finally bought the right bike, the perfect bike! I appreciate that you helped me to see that. It took me from 1969 to December 2022 figure it out. I did that in spite of multiple degrees, and all of the advertising as tempting as it is. My bike can cook more items than yours as well. Pretty much anything. I don’t even need to look at gauges or dials to know, it simply tells me!!! Better than Artificial Intelligence to be sure. I do not need a dealer for anything! It gets great milage, does the way past the speed limit with aplomb! Will always be worth what I paid for it. Even has a reverse…actually better than a GW! Fun factor is off the charts and can go over terrain better than most single track conveyances! Yeilds as much as 60mpg if ridden easy. As for accessories and farkling fun… the imagination is the only limit!!!
I was going to type a lot more etc….. but I decided to make it short. FWIW…I have owned Honda GW, Indian, BMW GS, K bike, sport and full tour etc, HD ( the most unreliable of the bunch) Suzuki’s, Kawasakis, Yamaha, Italian brands, other European brands. They were all a version of flavors plain or exotic…. but the one that beats them all, and cooks the perfect meal, and can turn into what ever mood I happen to be in….. is:…. drum roll…
My much beloved Suzuki DR650!
About the meals…from camping to restaurant hoping its is marvelous! AND I DONT NEED NO STINKIN’ ECU!
SELF ESTEEM!
I am happy that you chose a quality Iowa made Victory motorcycle. As a proud owner of a 47 Indian Chief I regret to inform you and your viewers that Indian Motor Company closed it's doors in 1953.
Why self esteem? Victory Motorcycle Company makes great terrific American V twin motorcycles with body parts and badging reminiscent of long standing Indian traditions. But the motorcycle made in Okoboji, IA is and always will be high quality VICTORY.
America, let us please acknowledge Victory and it's long line of quality AMERICAN made motorcycles and appreciate the iconic lines and body styling from Indian motor company.
Enjoy your fine Motorcycle Kevin which ever you choose to call it but please do not ever forget who truly made it.
You are in my prayers
Hoka Hey
Indian made it. Says so on the tank.
Traded my 2021 Road Glide Special on a new 2022 Challenger Limited. I put 10k miles on the Road Glide Special. It was a top heavy dinosaur 🦕. Harley-Davidson service costs are outrageously high. I had to upgrade the windshield, suspension and stereo system on the Road Glide Special. No upgrades needed other than a heel Toe Shifter on the Challenger.
I see quite a few of these Challengers here in Central California. Very nice touring motorcycles.
Great story on the GW
Attention all Indian owners. Stop holding the start button down when starting your bike. It's a one touch start system. Tap the start button and release!
Tru dat.
Can't wait for the 5/10 thousand mile review.
If I ever decide to sell my 2018 HGW I will definitely be checking out the top two Indian bikes Challenger and the Pursuit thanks for the funny video 🌭🍰🥤
Well that was fun Ken. What a way to explain why you changed from the goldwing to the Indian. Unfortunately, I won’t be able to relate to you anymore for having the same two motorcycles, a silver 2014 road king and a 2020 white dct goldwing. One thing I know is that I will have to make a switch to a lighter bike and probably sell both bikes in 2023 as I find both bikes top heavy now. BTW don’t forget that your new Indian does not have a reverse when you park!
Take care my friend. From your friendly Canadian neighbour!😉
Going forward reverse is a feature I'd like for me. It's much more available today as the reverse can be found on both the Yamaha & BMW Transcontinental. It's also available on the Harley-Davidson Tri-Glide. All 3 of these are air-cooled motors. Only Honda offers a liquid cooled powered tourer with reverse.
@@nelsonphilip4520 BMW's K1600 has had reverse since 2018 as standard equipment,... I owned one. Of all the touring motorcycles I have owned over the years, BMW offers comfort and something most v-twins do not, its called the "fun factor"
@@lawnranger3432 Thanks for the heads up on BMW K1600 series. That's a real tour -de-force and pardon my faux pas for not including it.
Your seven months early with your April Fools Episode.
Is it April the first? Cheers, Gordon
I just got my hands on an Indian Pursuit. I wouldn't call it an in-between motorcycle, I think it's something on its own. I bought it for two-up touring, the pillion is going to be much happier with that than riding pillion on my R1250GSA, which is my daily victim.
Before i watch. Greed pride and glory. Money changes everything and everybody. Good to see your human
I installed tortillas, refried beans, brown rice, chilies, three different salsas...and it didn't make anything, but the TU250X did try to throw me to the ground while putting down the kickstand this morning in Daytona Beach (Fiona...). The least it could do is make FDA approved chocolate covered crickets or something.
Congratulations love my Victory Vision
Bell rung, because you made my wife laugh. I even tried to look up the option. 🤣
When I que up my apple pie I will be at an ice cream stand.
Indian has successfully installed the ice cream dispenser, but it's also a regional restriction. You must take delivery in Alaska and as before there is only one type. In this case they are Eskimo Pies.
Thanks for that info Scott.