You know a guy is excited about his new toy when he discusses every single gage and doodad on the instrument panel. Congratulations, dude! You are living my dream.
Mooneys trigger memories that bring me back to Gordon Baxter's writings as 'The Pasture Pilot' from Beaumont TX in the 70s 80s & 90s for FLYING Magazine in his column 'Bax Seat'. The previous on air radio personality story teller brought the romance of flying into my mind & heart back when I bought a 10 hour block of flying time as a student pilot.Your descriptions of the M20 even sound like him talking. May you have many joyful memories with your young family in this marvelous machine designed & crafted by AL Mooney. Remember as you get your instrument endorsement, the day after a weather induced accident is always clear & sunny when they inspect the aircraft remnants. Learn from the mistakes of others, you won't live long enough to make them all yourself.
I looked very seriously at buying this airplane back during the summer. The price he was asking at the time was very reasonable! I went a bit more updated with mine but you have a nice basic Mooney there!
@@MyTimeToFly Yes it is and I completely understand! I meant that as a positive aspect about it, I just had a few "had-to-haves" that kept me from jumping on this one. The simplicity of these early Mooneys is what I find so attractive! I did stick with a Mooney, went with a 1964 that had some of my personal requirements.
I'm grinning about how you made a video about how renting from your flight school was going to work out the best and then 5 months later you introduce us to your new plane. :-) I suspect you're not the only one that's happened too. Congrats on your new Mooney!
Brings back memories - my father had a share in a 1965 Mooney Super 21 (M20E) when I was a kid (a long time ago). Went across the continent with it. These are fantastic aircraft. Congratulations on her and enjoy!!!
Nice looking C-model! Congratulations on your purchase. When I was a lad I spent more than a few hours riding around in a C-model (a Ranger) with my Dad, and later in his J-model. I enjoyed those days and now I tinker around with my own 201, which has been a great airplane. I hope you have a lot of fun with your airplane and enjoy flying with the girls before they grow up and get involved in other things. Fly safe and God bless.
@@MyTimeToFly Just found a $27k Mooney like yours. Failed annual due to visible corrosion on gear legs. I’m betting there more that can’t be seen and hence the low price. Thoughts?
I don't have a PPL (just wish I did) but from what I have learned from postings, an older Mooney would suit me fine. I have always been fascinated by airplanes, particularly propeller driven. I have been to the National Air and Space Museum in Washington D.C. two or three times, and I always get stuck drooling over those beautiful machines, especially a twin engine silver and yellow model hanging near the main entrance. Thanks for your overview.
@@MyTimeToFly Thanks. I once attended a conference in Martha's Vineyard. The flight from Logan/Boston was on a WW II vintage DC7, a twin prop, tail steering beautiful aircraft. We boarded near the tail, and had to walk up (about 35°) towards the front of the plane to take our seats. Some of the younger people were groaning and complaining, but I loved it. For the return to Logan with the same airline (Provincetown Airways, now defunct) we flew in a six-seater, and I got to sit right behind the copilot's seat. At another time, after a college holiday weekend in Foxboro, Massachusetts, my college friend's father took us back to Maine on a four seater that I think was a Beechcraft, though I don't remember the model. Those have been some of the most positive highlights of my life.
@@MyTimeToFly You are going to love it. Trust me. It will put a check mark in all of your boxes. Let me know if you have any question. Good luck again.
Congrats, I got my complex rating on a Mooney M20C and now I am hooked and want to buy a J model as I want the more room for family. Still it's a sexy plane with tons of speed over a basic Cessna or Piper.
That's awesome! We're also in the process of buying of a Mooney, an M20E. I have similar plans too to get an IFR rating after wrapping up the purchase. Good luck with that!
In sept 19 you were talking about how to get the license and in March of 2020 you have a Mooney. Congrats! That seems fast, from what i understand.. which could be wrong; you need a complex endorsement for this plane, as well as someone to have done some specific lessons in it? I am just starting down the same path you did, would love to find a buy like this now.
Thanks Greg, I was very fortunate. You're correct, I did need to get a complex endorsement and 10 hours of transition training (for insurance and my own piece of mind).
That plane actually looks awesome 2 me. I just don't know if I could afford something like that or the maintenance and upkeep. But that is awesome man just awesome.
@@MyTimeToFly oh wow partnership. do you mean seven thousand a year wouldn't cover expenses to own? I don't feel like a partnership would be good for me I'm a bit of an introvert and have a crazy schedule I would need it there on my Wilm of when I could fly. I'm an over-the-road truck driver put in about 60 hours a week. It's really hard to squeeze out that me time.
Costs will really depend on what you but, where you keep it, and how much you fly. You probably could own one on your own for $7,000, but you might not be able to fly it much as every hour costs more money!
Nice overview of the M20c. Would you mind sharing what your purchase price was? Or at least a range? I'm midway thru flight training and starting to think about options for long term. How many hours in transition training was required to get the complex rating?
No problem man, we spent around $35k on the plane, which included some initial upgrades. I had about 150 hours at that time, all in fixed gear, fixed pitch airplanes. The insurance required 10 hours of transition training, and it took most of that for me to gain my confidence! Most of that confidence was the change in landing sight picture, and less about the complex nature.
Congratulations on Your new Mooney they will work well for two adults and small children BTW if You need a TXP I have a AT50A and AT150 if You are intersted
Thanks for sharing beautiful airplane it's always better to own..... in my opinion. Currently on a Cessna 150 that's what I'm looking at their own. Mooney m20j.
First off, love the channel, I want to buy a M20c myself. I was speaking with a pilot I happened to meet about possible aircraft choices. I mentioned my interest in the Mooney. He suggested I steer away from the Mooney. He said the constant speed prop could go out and that is a $40,000.00 fix. He also said due to the wing chord, the tips stall before the wing root. I was quite disappointed. He suggested a Piper pa28 Cherokee-180. I don't have an issue w/ Pipers, I just really like the M20c. What is your opinion? Very best regards, JA
Thanks so much Jack!!! I have to say I disagree. The cost of the prop seems a bit high, it seems to have an extra 0 in it. Regardless, it isn’t unique to Mooney, it could happen with any constant speed prop. Regarding stalls, I have to say my planes stalls very smooth, nothing wild. I have nothing against the Cherokee, but clearly I love the Mooney, and don’t think you’d regret anything!
Reconsider flying 100° Rich of peak EGT. If you watch Mike Bush on CZcams namely leaning basics and advanced leaning, you will see that what you are doing is bad for the engine.
I don’t have any diagrams, but it is in annual right now. Maybe I can make a video breaking down the manual “Johnson Bar” system while the covers are off!
@@MyTimeToFly That would be beautiful! thanks a mil. I don't know of any other manual gear systems except the hand pump hydraulic emergency extension on the DHC-8 I flew for 12000+ hours
You know a guy is excited about his new toy when he discusses every single gage and doodad on the instrument panel. Congratulations, dude! You are living my dream.
Thanks man...anybody can make it happen. There is a way!
Mooneys trigger memories that bring me back to Gordon Baxter's writings as 'The Pasture Pilot' from Beaumont TX in the 70s 80s & 90s for FLYING Magazine in his column 'Bax Seat'. The previous on air radio personality story teller brought the romance of flying into my mind & heart back when I bought a 10 hour block of flying time as a student pilot.Your descriptions of the M20 even sound like him talking. May you have many joyful memories with your young family in this marvelous machine designed & crafted by AL Mooney. Remember as you get your instrument endorsement, the day after a weather induced accident is always clear & sunny when they inspect the aircraft remnants. Learn from the mistakes of others, you won't live long enough to make them all yourself.
Thanks so much for the kind and wise words!
I looked very seriously at buying this airplane back during the summer. The price he was asking at the time was very reasonable! I went a bit more updated with mine but you have a nice basic Mooney there!
What a small world! For our purpose it’s just right. Did you stick with a Mooney?
@@MyTimeToFly Yes it is and I completely understand! I meant that as a positive aspect about it, I just had a few "had-to-haves" that kept me from jumping on this one. The simplicity of these early Mooneys is what I find so attractive! I did stick with a Mooney, went with a 1964 that had some of my personal requirements.
Awesome man! Enjoy your bird!
@@MyTimeToFly You too!
Love the Johnson bar 👍 No “maybe” or “hope it’s down” with the bar in place!
Yes, it’s pretty darn awesome!
I'm grinning about how you made a video about how renting from your flight school was going to work out the best and then 5 months later you introduce us to your new plane. :-) I suspect you're not the only one that's happened too. Congrats on your new Mooney!
Thanks man, it sure is a dynamic world we live in...you just have to leave yourself open to options, right!
Brings back memories - my father had a share in a 1965 Mooney Super 21 (M20E) when I was a kid (a long time ago). Went across the continent with it. These are fantastic aircraft. Congratulations on her and enjoy!!!
Thank you kindly! I have sure enjoyed it for the last year and a half!
Flew the 172RG, the Piper Arrow and the M0J, the Mooney by far was my favorite, hope to fly one again some day.
Right on! I hope to gain that range of experience soon. Safe flying!
Nice looking C-model! Congratulations on your purchase. When I was a lad I spent more than a few hours riding around in a C-model (a Ranger) with my Dad, and later in his J-model. I enjoyed those days and now I tinker around with my own 201, which has been a great airplane. I hope you have a lot of fun with your airplane and enjoy flying with the girls before they grow up and get involved in other things. Fly safe and God bless.
Thank you for the kind words J! I sure hope my little ladies think back fondly on this time like you do!
Nice 👍 . Just bought a ‘68 Mooney M20C. In the process of restoring it now 😎
Awesome man!!! What are the big pieces of work that have to be done?
Exactly the wright family ✈️
I know I can never own a plane.This video made me feel for a second that I am just there in that plane.. Thank You.
So kind, thanks for being here!
That's a sweet ride. Congratulations!
Thanks a bunch man! Means a lot coming from you.
This is what I'm looking for in a plane. Simple and fast. Hoping to get one in the next year or two.
They are hard to beat. Don’t hesitate to ask if you have any questions!
@@MyTimeToFly Just found a $27k Mooney like yours. Failed annual due to visible corrosion on gear legs. I’m betting there more that can’t be seen and hence the low price. Thoughts?
Unless you, or your dad is an A&P, I’d probably stay away from anything with known structural issues.
@@MyTimeToFly Yep…walked away from it. Love to fly another day!
Amen
Good video good aircraft
Thank you kindly, she's been great so far!
lovely plane
Thank you so much, I'm blessed to have her.
Great choice of planes. Biggest bang for the buck, excellent cross country platform.
Thanks Ed! Just got back from a cross country...video coming soon!
I don't have a PPL (just wish I did) but from what I have learned from postings, an older Mooney would suit me fine. I have always been fascinated by airplanes, particularly propeller driven. I have been to the National Air and Space Museum in Washington D.C. two or three times, and I always get stuck drooling over those beautiful machines, especially a twin engine silver and yellow model hanging near the main entrance. Thanks for your overview.
Thanks for watching Lorenzo. I’ll encourage you to go find a way to pursue your passion!
@@MyTimeToFly Thanks. I once attended a conference in Martha's Vineyard. The flight from Logan/Boston was on a WW II vintage DC7, a twin prop, tail steering beautiful aircraft. We boarded near the tail, and had to walk up (about 35°) towards the front of the plane to take our seats. Some of the younger people were groaning and complaining, but I loved it. For the return to Logan with the same airline (Provincetown Airways, now defunct) we flew in a six-seater, and I got to sit right behind the copilot's seat. At another time, after a college holiday weekend in Foxboro, Massachusetts, my college friend's father took us back to Maine on a four seater that I think was a Beechcraft, though I don't remember the model. Those have been some of the most positive highlights of my life.
Those sound like some incredible experiences to have. I would love some time vintage military aircraft!
Good luck with the Mooney. I love my M20C
I’m falling in love more each flight! Can’t wait to stretch her legs even more!
@@MyTimeToFly You are going to love it. Trust me. It will put a check mark in all of your boxes. Let me know if you have any question. Good luck again.
Thanks man. Perhaps we’ll cross paths some day!
Congrats, I got my complex rating on a Mooney M20C and now I am hooked and want to buy a J model as I want the more room for family. Still it's a sexy plane with tons of speed over a basic Cessna or Piper.
Acc0rd79 it’s been a lot of fun to learn so far. I’m sure as my girls grow I’ll be looking to move to a long body. Thanks for watching!
That's awesome! We're also in the process of buying of a Mooney, an M20E. I have similar plans too to get an IFR rating after wrapping up the purchase. Good luck with that!
That’s great, do you have Mooney experience?It’s been quite the adventure so far for me. I wish you good luck in your buying process.
Love the video. What year did you buy the Mooney? Seems like you got a hell of a good deal on it.
Thanks Bob, we bought in early 2020. Without question we found a good buy.
In sept 19 you were talking about how to get the license and in March of 2020 you have a Mooney. Congrats! That seems fast, from what i understand.. which could be wrong; you need a complex endorsement for this plane, as well as someone to have done some specific lessons in it? I am just starting down the same path you did, would love to find a buy like this now.
Thanks Greg, I was very fortunate. You're correct, I did need to get a complex endorsement and 10 hours of transition training (for insurance and my own piece of mind).
That plane actually looks awesome 2 me. I just don't know if I could afford something like that or the maintenance and upkeep. But that is awesome man just awesome.
Thanks Jason, it is a blast. Sure, it’s not cheap, but if you could budget about $5k - $7k a year, you could own one in a partnership like I do.
@@MyTimeToFly oh wow partnership. do you mean seven thousand a year wouldn't cover expenses to own? I don't feel like a partnership would be good for me I'm a bit of an introvert and have a crazy schedule I would need it there on my Wilm of when I could fly. I'm an over-the-road truck driver put in about 60 hours a week. It's really hard to squeeze out that me time.
Costs will really depend on what you but, where you keep it, and how much you fly. You probably could own one on your own for $7,000, but you might not be able to fly it much as every hour costs more money!
Beautiful M20C! Looks like you’re having fun.
I also have an M20C 👍🏻
We really are! It’s the perfect plane for us at the moment!
Nice! (I own 1/2 of a 172) It suits my mission...
Definitely a good choice as well!
Nice overview of the M20c. Would you mind sharing what your purchase price was? Or at least a range? I'm midway thru flight training and starting to think about options for long term. How many hours in transition training was required to get the complex rating?
No problem man, we spent around $35k on the plane, which included some initial upgrades. I had about 150 hours at that time, all in fixed gear, fixed pitch airplanes. The insurance required 10 hours of transition training, and it took most of that for me to gain my confidence! Most of that confidence was the change in landing sight picture, and less about the complex nature.
hope to own a aircraft one day. least a crappy little 150 that i can show some love too
Amen! We need more pilots like you!
Congratulations on Your new Mooney they will work well for two adults and small children BTW if You need a TXP I have a AT50A and AT150 if You are intersted
Thanks man! Shoot me an email on the transponder. Probably worth having a backup.
Highflying121@gmail.com
F owner here.....love flying the mooney!
Right on man! This is my first, transitioning from the Cessna was fun...don’t know if I could ever go back!
Very nice panel
Thanks a bunch Scott!
what did you check on the airplane to decide that it is a good one to buy, i.e the one of low maintenance and repair cost?
Thanks for sharing beautiful airplane it's always better to own..... in my opinion. Currently on a Cessna 150 that's what I'm looking at their own. Mooney m20j.
Much appreciated! It’s been a blast so far.
Sweet.
Thanks man!!!
Great panel, you guys are set!
Thanks Ken! I do have one big “want” in an autopilot...but there is no rush! I appreciate you watching!
First off, love the channel, I want to buy a M20c myself. I was speaking with a pilot I happened to meet about possible aircraft choices. I mentioned my interest in the Mooney. He suggested I steer away from the Mooney. He said the constant speed prop could go out and that is a $40,000.00 fix. He also said due to the wing chord, the tips stall before the wing root. I was quite disappointed. He suggested a Piper pa28 Cherokee-180. I don't have an issue w/ Pipers, I just really like the M20c. What is your opinion? Very best regards, JA
Thanks so much Jack!!! I have to say I disagree. The cost of the prop seems a bit high, it seems to have an extra 0 in it. Regardless, it isn’t unique to Mooney, it could happen with any constant speed prop. Regarding stalls, I have to say my planes stalls very smooth, nothing wild. I have nothing against the Cherokee, but clearly I love the Mooney, and don’t think you’d regret anything!
@@MyTimeToFly Thanks for the reply! That prop fix did seem a tad over blown! Best regards, JA
Anytime Jack!
My father had a mooney. If someone steers you away from it, they are afraid to fly one... follow your gut
Reconsider flying 100° Rich of peak EGT. If you watch Mike Bush on CZcams namely leaning basics and advanced leaning, you will see that what you are doing is bad for the engine.
I will check him out! Thanks for the recommendation!
You make it to KEZM OR KCVC Let me know for sure
Beautiful plane!!
Thanks so much!
My Time To Fly no problem! You should do more in depth reviews on it. As a pilot myself, I love hearing about the intricacies of unfamiliar aircraft.
Roger that. I will keep it up!
Sister ships! I have 1963 M20D N6744U
Awesome, where do you fly out of?
Script and ClipOn Mike, please.
Who did the PreBuy?
You got it, I will be upgrading gear soon. The PreBuy was done by 100 octane aviation in Superior, WI.
any diagrams of the landing gear system?
I don’t have any diagrams, but it is in annual right now. Maybe I can make a video breaking down the manual “Johnson Bar” system while the covers are off!
@@MyTimeToFly That would be beautiful! thanks a mil. I don't know of any other manual gear systems except the hand pump hydraulic emergency extension on the DHC-8 I flew for 12000+ hours
now selling for 130k nice investment!
I wish, that’s J model money. But, I could probably squeak $60k out of it
When do the free rides start....lol
As soon as my endorsement is complete...I’ll be looking for any excuse to fly. I should have that done next week. It’s gonna be a busy summer!
My Time To Fly yes sir , you make down to KEZM let me know
O'BEN, Georgia is one heck of a hike...but ya never know!
This plane probably sells for $50k with today’s ridiculous asking prices.
And I’ll never complain about that (until I try to buy another one)
$60,000 to $65,000 is now the asking price today. People are crazy, and the people actually buying at these prices are bonkers.
Crazy world. Even at $60k it’s worth more for me to keep it.
The autopilot is not worth fixing it is made by ARC Cessna no service or parts
It partially works, might play around with it a bit. An upgrade to a real autopilot will definitely happen in the future though!
Tru-Track is a great economical option.
Any idea of the total cost?
2 Axis System will be around 5-7K installed. Way better than 30K installed other APs
Very true
You doubled your money in 3 years. You flew for free.
Yes, we’ve been VERY lucky!