Would have been nice to see a total breakdown including overall income and average lessons per day/month to make some comparisons. Love the videos though, keep them coming. I will be taking my part 1 soonest. Regards
Very informative, thank you. I'm considering doing this part time around my current work to start out so some of these numbers are interesting as they would be viable for both full and part time.
Great video i'm currently on a pink licence and just about to have 1st attempt at the part 3 Having bought a vehicle for training funnily enough a peugeot 208 petrol had to replace the clutch prior to starting lessons as it was shot, and even with the new clutch bite point is horrific for learners! So going on a pdi lease but even with all the overheads which ok are deductible I see all the money coming in but not able to realistically justify a wage lol. As it's all there to pay everything i;ve been paying out to set up.
Very interesting and well presented. Thank you for taking your time to make the video. I am thinking of becoming ADI too and video like this are really helpful to us.
Thanks for the useful video. I'm considering a move from teaching (after 15 years) to being a driving instructor. It's hard to get my head around the expenses part of the job and how much of a loss I'd need to take from my job to do this. I'm used to working long hours in a tiring job so I'm not worried about that bit but this video hits the nail on the head with what has to be paid for. I'd love to know the earnings that these expenses are against. Thanks for the video!
Hey Jon you are welcome. Don't only look at this one though I have plenty of really positive videos about driving instructing. This only covers the negative side which is after all tax deductable.
Hi Josh. Great video, thank you. I'm only at the research stage but would love to do this. My mind gets away from me all the time and I've been looking at cars to lease for it, can I ask you, what is your annual mileage on your agreement, or even what mileage do you do each year being an instructor? Cheers!
Then you’re got your income tax on top, however what about the benefit of offset some of these expenses against your tax bill at the end of the year? What does that look like. Good informative video and delivery by the way.
I was think about becoming driving instructor because I teach my friend and they passed straight away. I liked teaching them but I masted to that for free But know after this video I don't think when I can do that . There must be millionar for got this job
Hi Josh, Firstly, you are being ripped off with your insurance! I've never paid more than £450 a year and that's still a bit pricey! Secondly, You should receive a standards check for every badge. In theory, once in every 4 year period. However, this isn't always the case. It DOES NOT relate to your grade. Grade B's don't get more than Grade A's. This is a myth! If you are self employed, it may be worth considering ditching the Union and becoming a member of one of the instructor associations instead. 👍
Hey Tommy thanks for that. That's interesting about the insurance. How did you manage to get driving school insurance at £450 with 0 years no claims? Iregaedinf the grading you are saying it should be every 4 years regardless of grade A or B? That's surprising. How much is it to join driving associations by the way? Thanks Josh
@@JoshRamwell My first insurance policy, even as a PDI was only about £500. Until recently, I even had 2 claims on my policy (not my fault but I still had to claim) I do however have protected no claims on my policy. It really does pay to shop around.
Adrian Flux on a Corsa was about £500. Moved to a Suzuki Swift Sport and it jumped to almost £1200. I just wanted something more fun to drive between lessons. 😎
Love your videos mate, very to the point and informative. keep up the good work. Do you think there’s enough demand for teaching students in an auto. As there are people out there that will only want to drive an auto. I’m seriously considering pursuing this career as I’ve had enough of the office life. Appreciate any advice Thanks
im looking at this too, im thinking that in about 10 years all cars will be electric, this means that all new cars will be auto. i think its the way to go
But if you teach in manual your students who pass can drive both manual and auto. If your students pass in an auto, then they can only drive an auto. So it restricts what they can drive
@@davewhite768 thanks Dave that’s true I’ve thought about that too. However, I think these days some people can’t be bothered to Learn the controls of a manual and or they don’t ever want to drive a manual so go for just auto. In addition to this, in a few years there won’t be many manual cars with electric vehicles taking over. I think I will start off with manual as the demand is higher for manual and then decide whether I want to do auto or both. Thanks for your advice much appreciated.
Hey Mathew glad you enjoyed it. It really depends on how many lessons you can squeeze into that 40 hour week and it depends on if you have the students. If you have good diary management and enough students then yes you would get around the 37 mark.
Regarding your pension question, INVEST your money YOURSELF!!!! Pensions will always PAY THEMSELVES FIRST, then you'll get whatever is left after many many years of giving them YOUR MONEY!! So, my answers is, INVEST for your future YOURSELF!!
Hi Josh. Video is great. You said in the video you have a better way on the purchase of the car. Can you show me the link to this video please. Also did you get your Peugeot standard then get the dual control fitted afterwards? Thanks!
Hey Tony yes I got the pwgeot9 standard then paid a duel Fitter to fit them at a later date. I don't think I ever got round to the video about the better way. But I'll try get it done soon.
I always recommend diesel for high mileage and better mpg. I've got a golf a will never look back. I d have much experience with other cars I'm sorry. Lots of people in the discord recommended ford focus though
@@johntyxeros7120 as you say some people do have issues with it and it costs a bomb to fix. Luckily I haven't ever had an issue but then I live in the country a bit. Best join the discord and lots of people will give you there thoughts
Is there a maximum driving hours legislation? I used to be a bus driver and we had a 5 1/2 hour maximum before we needed a break and 10 hour’s maximum per day. I’m considering going for a job as an instructor but I’d want to work as many hours as possible to maximise my earnings as I know there’s a lot of cost to working for yourself etc. ideally I’d be advertising through social media and I’d want to be doing 6/7 hours a day.
Hey Erin as we are self employed at the moment there is no maximum hours. I know another couple of but drivers turned driving instructor and they are finding it more lucrative thank the bus driving but I guess that is area dependent. As for the 7 hours per day, it does sound like a fair number but is that actual teaching hours or from when you start from the house to when you leave for home? Only because there is a lot of driving between lessons. I reduce this by only doing 1.5 or 2 hour lessons. I try do around 5 to 6 hours per day because believe it or not driving instructing is very tiring mentally. If I did any more than that my concentration would drop and then so would lesson quality along with my reputation
Josh I’ve seen a few videos of yours now, and sorry to say your not very good at maths. At first I wasn’t sure if you workout your weeks to 48 to allow 4 weeks holiday but after watching this video I’m sure your making a mistake. In a previous video you calculated using 4 weeks x 12 months which only equals 48 weeks. I’ve checked your figures in the video and it seems you are still using the same formula to calculate your monthly costs such as insurance, car lease etc. So can you clarify that the monthly total is correct and than your weekly total is incorrect or Vice versa. Thanks
Hi Terry, if I'm honest the video is around 2 years old so I'm not going to worry about it to much. But what I can do is a just make a new video using 52 weeks instead of 48. Cheers
@@JoshRamwell 48 weeks is good in terms of fuel, earnings etc as long as people know it’s because you’ve calculated 4 weeks off for holiday etc, but in terms of insurance, car lease etc will be 52 weeks. I’m sure you could put together a decent video that doesn’t get to confusing but explains real world expenses and earnings. There isn’t many videos out there that covers the finances of a driving instructor, although I haven’t looked hard I only recall one other video from a different channel that’s also gone into it.
Hey just came across you're video's the last few days I'm looking to get into this business would you recommend to go self employed or start at a driving school the driving school are taking on new training instructors it's 18 euro an hour in 2 hour block bookings 27 euro for time and a half company car tax and insurance paid plus phone and they get you you're bookings I'm living in ireland
Hey Stephen thank you. For me it's always going to be self employed. Iove being my own but and it's my business. It's as good as I make it. I'm also in control of how much time I have off. But we you say no pension, no sick etc. You have to do what works for you
Yes you are absolutely right apart from the fact I enjoy making useless videos. And saying that, instead of writing this useless comment you could also be doing something useful. 😁🙌
Would have been nice to see a total breakdown including overall income and average lessons per day/month to make some comparisons. Love the videos though, keep them coming. I will be taking my part 1 soonest. Regards
Don't worry Brian I'll do a another one with more info. Good luck with your part 1.🤞🍀
Eye opener for sure. Been thinking about doing my training fir a career change 😱😱
Very informative, thank you. I'm considering doing this part time around my current work to start out so some of these numbers are interesting as they would be viable for both full and part time.
Thanks Ram good luck
Great video i'm currently on a pink licence and just about to have 1st attempt at the part 3 Having bought a vehicle for training funnily enough a peugeot 208 petrol had to replace the clutch prior to starting lessons as it was shot, and even with the new clutch bite point is horrific for learners! So going on a pdi lease but even with all the overheads which ok are deductible I see all the money coming in but not able to realistically justify a wage lol. As it's all there to pay everything i;ve been paying out to set up.
Did you pass on 1st attempt?
Brilliant and helpful breakdown Josh, Thanks. You’re doing a lot more for people than you know!
Thanks Jade. Really appreciate the support😁
Cheers josh you’re awesome
Very interesting and well presented. Thank you for taking your time to make the video. I am thinking of becoming ADI too and video like this are really helpful to us.
Thanks for the useful video. I'm considering a move from teaching (after 15 years) to being a driving instructor. It's hard to get my head around the expenses part of the job and how much of a loss I'd need to take from my job to do this. I'm used to working long hours in a tiring job so I'm not worried about that bit but this video hits the nail on the head with what has to be paid for. I'd love to know the earnings that these expenses are against. Thanks for the video!
BRILLIANT video
Thank you
Good video - thanks for your input, helping me decide weather this would be a good
Career change for me
Hey Jon you are welcome. Don't only look at this one though I have plenty of really positive videos about driving instructing. This only covers the negative side which is after all tax deductable.
There is a new app in the works for driving instructors and learner drivers. It will change the way the industry works. Nuff said!
well done Josh great videos
Thank you Paul 🙌
Hi Josh. Great video, thank you. I'm only at the research stage but would love to do this. My mind gets away from me all the time and I've been looking at cars to lease for it, can I ask you, what is your annual mileage on your agreement, or even what mileage do you do each year being an instructor? Cheers!
Good to know it costs a lot to be an instructor.
Then you’re got your income tax on top, however what about the benefit of offset some of these expenses against your tax bill at the end of the year? What does that look like. Good informative video and delivery by the way.
I was think about becoming driving instructor because I teach my friend and they passed straight away. I liked teaching them but I masted to that for free But know after this video I don't think when I can do that . There must be millionar for got this job
Hi Josh,
Firstly, you are being ripped off with your insurance! I've never paid more than £450 a year and that's still a bit pricey!
Secondly,
You should receive a standards check for every badge. In theory, once in every 4 year period. However, this isn't always the case.
It DOES NOT relate to your grade.
Grade B's don't get more than Grade A's. This is a myth!
If you are self employed, it may be worth considering ditching the Union and becoming a member of one of the instructor associations instead.
👍
Hey Tommy thanks for that. That's interesting about the insurance. How did you manage to get driving school insurance at £450 with 0 years no claims?
Iregaedinf the grading you are saying it should be every 4 years regardless of grade A or B? That's surprising. How much is it to join driving associations by the way? Thanks Josh
@@JoshRamwell
My first insurance policy, even as a PDI was only about £500.
Until recently, I even had 2 claims on my policy (not my fault but I still had to claim)
I do however have protected no claims on my policy.
It really does pay to shop around.
I’m a PDI and pay around £500 a year with Adrian Flux. I have protected NCB too
Adrian Flux on a Corsa was about £500. Moved to a Suzuki Swift Sport and it jumped to almost £1200. I just wanted something more fun to drive between lessons. 😎
Carwash twice a week for £5
Would.cost £30 a week for me.
Love your videos mate, very to the point and informative. keep up the good work.
Do you think there’s enough demand for teaching students in an auto. As there are people out there that will only want to drive an auto. I’m seriously considering pursuing this career as I’ve had enough of the office life. Appreciate any advice Thanks
im looking at this too, im thinking that in about 10 years all cars will be electric, this means that all new cars will be auto. i think its the way to go
But if you teach in manual your students who pass can drive both manual and auto. If your students pass in an auto, then they can only drive an auto. So it restricts what they can drive
@@davewhite768 thanks Dave that’s true I’ve thought about that too. However, I think these days some people can’t be bothered to Learn the controls of a manual and or they don’t ever want to drive a manual so go for just auto. In addition to this, in a few years there won’t be many manual cars with electric vehicles taking over. I think I will start off with manual as the demand is higher for manual and then decide whether I want to do auto or both. Thanks for your advice much appreciated.
Great video, I’m thinking of training as a driving instructor. So based on a 40 hour week your clearing about 37?
Hey Mathew glad you enjoyed it. It really depends on how many lessons you can squeeze into that 40 hour week and it depends on if you have the students. If you have good diary management and enough students then yes you would get around the 37 mark.
Hi Josh, great video, thank you. What is the name of the driving instructor APP that you use?
I wish new driver insurance was 1-2k, I just passed, I'm over 25 and I'm getting 3k minimum on most quotes
Regarding your pension question, INVEST your money YOURSELF!!!!
Pensions will always PAY THEMSELVES FIRST, then you'll get whatever is left after many many years of giving them YOUR MONEY!!
So, my answers is, INVEST for your future YOURSELF!!
Are you still charging £30 an hour Josh or has this increased? Thanks
That’s ridiculous money.
And you’re 47 left to your milestone.
I know right and yes 47 to go
Hi Josh. Video is great. You said in the video you have a better way on the purchase of the car. Can you show me the link to this video please. Also did you get your Peugeot standard then get the dual control fitted afterwards?
Thanks!
Hey Tony yes I got the pwgeot9 standard then paid a duel Fitter to fit them at a later date. I don't think I ever got round to the video about the better way. But I'll try get it done soon.
@@JoshRamwell thank you very much.
what kind of used car do you recommend for a new instructor and why?
what fuel and what size car (because it will be also my daily familly car)?
I always recommend diesel for high mileage and better mpg. I've got a golf a will never look back. I d have much experience with other cars I'm sorry. Lots of people in the discord recommended ford focus though
@@JoshRamwell the size of a golf for me is acceptable, but is it ok for a student? i don’t want the “big” car to be the reason to lose customers
@@JoshRamwell diesel yes but what about the dpf in mostly city driving conditions?
@@johntyxeros7120 as you say some people do have issues with it and it costs a bomb to fix. Luckily I haven't ever had an issue but then I live in the country a bit. Best join the discord and lots of people will give you there thoughts
What was the exact name of the driving instructor app you referred to please, Josh?....I'm in need of an organiser!!!!!
Total drive
What is the name of the booking app !?
Could you do an update on the costs for 2023?
Hi whats the name of the driving instructor app?
i dont get out of bed for les than £45ph
Is there a maximum driving hours legislation? I used to be a bus driver and we had a 5 1/2 hour maximum before we needed a break and 10 hour’s maximum per day.
I’m considering going for a job as an instructor but I’d want to work as many hours as possible to maximise my earnings as I know there’s a lot of cost to working for yourself etc. ideally I’d be advertising through social media and I’d want to be doing 6/7 hours a day.
Hey Erin as we are self employed at the moment there is no maximum hours. I know another couple of but drivers turned driving instructor and they are finding it more lucrative thank the bus driving but I guess that is area dependent.
As for the 7 hours per day, it does sound like a fair number but is that actual teaching hours or from when you start from the house to when you leave for home? Only because there is a lot of driving between lessons. I reduce this by only doing 1.5 or 2 hour lessons. I try do around 5 to 6 hours per day because believe it or not driving instructing is very tiring mentally. If I did any more than that my concentration would drop and then so would lesson quality along with my reputation
Don't regret me I just started now I am a woman I have small heart 😅
Josh I’ve seen a few videos of yours now, and sorry to say your not very good at maths. At first I wasn’t sure if you workout your weeks to 48 to allow 4 weeks holiday but after watching this video I’m sure your making a mistake. In a previous video you calculated using 4 weeks x 12 months which only equals 48 weeks. I’ve checked your figures in the video and it seems you are still using the same formula to calculate your monthly costs such as insurance, car lease etc. So can you clarify that the monthly total is correct and than your weekly total is incorrect or Vice versa. Thanks
Hi Terry, if I'm honest the video is around 2 years old so I'm not going to worry about it to much. But what I can do is a just make a new video using 52 weeks instead of 48. Cheers
@@JoshRamwell 48 weeks is good in terms of fuel, earnings etc as long as people know it’s because you’ve calculated 4 weeks off for holiday etc, but in terms of insurance, car lease etc will be 52 weeks. I’m sure you could put together a decent video that doesn’t get to confusing but explains real world expenses and earnings. There isn’t many videos out there that covers the finances of a driving instructor, although I haven’t looked hard I only recall one other video from a different channel that’s also gone into it.
Hey just came across you're video's the last few days I'm looking to get into this business would you recommend to go self employed or start at a driving school the driving school are taking on new training instructors it's 18 euro an hour in 2 hour block bookings 27 euro for time and a half company car tax and insurance paid plus phone and they get you you're bookings I'm living in ireland
Brilliant video's as well
10 petrol per client as well
Plus 3 weeks holiday pay
Hey Stephen thank you. For me it's always going to be self employed. Iove being my own but and it's my business. It's as good as I make it. I'm also in control of how much time I have off. But we you say no pension, no sick etc. You have to do what works for you
hi
Well you must be making a decent living, otherwise you wouldn't be doing it.
Punctures and vatets after sweaty student.
How much you pay hmrc?
Last year I paid £166 because I bought a car. This next year I'm not sure 😆
Crap job then
Well instead of making the time to make this useless video you could of been earning by doing a lesson ?
Yes you are absolutely right apart from the fact I enjoy making useless videos. And saying that, instead of writing this useless comment you could also be doing something useful. 😁🙌