TIME TO START YOUR GOTH PHASE! (Motionless In White "Cyberhex" reaction)
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 6. 09. 2024
- Motionless In White is back! Here's my reaction to their new song "Cyberhex." How does "Cyberhex" compares to older Motionless In White songs like "Loud," "Creatures" and "America"? Find out in this reaction!
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Hey Finn, can you do something like this about ice nine kills
MIW are one of the few bands in modern metalcore besides ice nine kills and a few others where thereâs a pretty even split in their audience between men and women. If youâre cynical you could argue âoH gIrLs oNlY lIkE tHeM cUs ChRiS iS hOtâ but I think itâs because
1. Theyâre amazing at marketing
2. Each album is arguably better than the last
3. The male side of their fanbase is super nice and isnât filled with neck beards who hate women
4. Goths in general are ironically very sweet and welcoming so itâs easy for women to get into that kind of music without feeling unwelcome like in many prog and djent circles
5. The members of the band seem like genuine, thoughtful people. Thereâs no âtrapt guyâ in MIW
6. Theyâre not scared to bring modern production aesthetics into their music, so their new stuff never sounds dated on arrival like a lot of bands who just sound like worse versions of artists from 10-15 years ago
Absolutely agreed! I actually just did a vocal cover of CYBERHEX btw! I'd love to see what you think in the CZcams Comments!
czcams.com/video/TZ8ohw3be4Q/video.html
Agree on all of these except the second point, you don't get better than Creatures
Great points!
Agree with this 100%. Chris has amazing stage presence and vocal versatility to match.
I'm still gonna go with "girls like them cuz Chris is hot and has feminine aspects (like makeup, outfits, etc.)
Clean vocals and savage screams, lots of energy, great aesthetics, thoughtful interviews - so much to love about them!
They're aggressively average.
@@andrewbrock3675 exactly
I don't hear anything new or exciting from them
@@andrewbrock3675 cool thing about life eh? We all got our opinions
@@wildwulf7065 Yeah man, and some opinions are wrong. MIW is a very, very average band dude. They do nothing at all unique or different. And they do nothing better than any of the heavy hitters in whatever genre they try to emulate. The band doesn't have a single original thought when it comes to music.
I think Creatures is still their best album, but every single one of them is amazing. Great band with great songs and great stage presence
I was going to say the same!! I still listen to that album all the time.
I honestly haven't listened to them since the first ep. I heard a bit of creatures and wasn't digging it
@@cokinst2266 the ep and creatures are really similar though
I started with creatures, but Tbh I like everything that came after more. I think their definitely at their best with the brutal gothic industiral-core sound.
Cannot agree more đ
As an old fan of MIW, this is a totally fair and accurate assessment of their career. Great video! 10/10.
Agreed. My favorite band since the first time I saw the Abigail video.
@@JackerySnaxxx Same. Almost 12 years now of non-stop jamming their stuff.
Thoughts & Prayers is hands down my favorite song by MIW! It's freaking amazing!
Iâve seen them live a few times both at theaters and warped tour and they always put on a damn good show. I donât really ever listen to them anymore but Iâd totally catch them if they came to town
I dont listen to a ton of music anymore but always make it a point to catch them live whenever theyre in town. Definitely my favorite band to see live. They always put on a good show.
They opened for Slipknot and it was the first time I saw them live. They were pretty damn good.
I remember seeing them on a side stage at warped right after creatures came out, they were fantastic. About to go see them for the 2nd time on the trilogy of terror tour
MIW's been my favorite band since discovering their first EP back in the MySpace days - it's been an honor to watch them grow and improve their sounds over the years. Props to them, great review too Finn!
Motionless in White has never been my favorite band or anything but I've never heard anything from them that I didn't like. I feel like it's hard to say they're bad, cuz they just always sound good for what they're doing.
They can't make a "bad" song, all of them are either catchy or just good.
@@UKCountry_Ball totally agree. Can't think of anytime I hit "skip" when they come up on a playlist.
If 1999 and 2006 had a baby. There is definitely a market for this sound. Orgy was way ahead of its time IMO. Jay Gordon had some ideas that could work well today
Lol Ricky and i toured together and did merch back in 08 đ his nickname was âtitty fishâ and heâs a wonderful human. Tripped me out when i saw he was in MIW, havenât seen him in years. Good job Ricky, keep killin it đ€đŒ
Edit: he was selling merch for a band called: âFall From Graceâ from Seattle, Wa.
He also directed this video. :)
@@jodiemanthei6160 thatâs awesome, thank you for the tidbit đđŒđ€đŒ
I might be one of the only of my group that found their first album almost unpalatable besides a song or two. I love how their sound has evolved over the times. This one definitely brings me back to Rats and Necessary Evil with Jonathan Davis days. Thatâs when I discovered the band because Iâm a huge fan of Korn.
Almost wondering what you think of the band Tallah, which mixes that early nu-metal sounds almost with a mathcore/deathcore twist in it
I've been hoping since Tallah started Fin would discuss them. So at this point I feel like he either doesn't like them or isn't aware of their existence lol
@@SKVMTR4SH i feel like they havenât gotten that much exposure yet, mainly because their sound is so niche. I wouldnât call their music accesible or catchy, but itâs very unique and done extremely well. Have you heard their new track âTelescopeâ? So many tempo changes đ think I heard Finn say he wasnât the biggest fan of the Nu Metal movement, but I would lean towards he might not have heard it yet.
@@hunterwilliams5302 To be honest Telescope isn't my favorite song they put out but I'm sure within the upcoming months they'll release another song that maybe I'll like more. Overconfidence and Placenta are their best tracks imo. I'm still hoping Fin discusses them at least a little. Either way I'm thinking about seeing them with All That Remains
Nah iâve talked about tallah many times
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA interesting Iâve only been following for about a month so Iâm behind
Been a MiW fan since 2014 & each sound they use works for me. From metalcore to industrial to butt-rock. They make it all work for me. And Finn, as someone who likes lyrics with a positive message, you should like a lot of what they do. Chris has a lot of songs with positive messaging.
Finally some MIW appreciation
Being from Scranton, its wild to me seeing them go from a local band being featured in "The Electric City" newspaper and my mom yelling at me to turn off the "screaming music" to where they are now.
As a dude with A beard who listens to metal, I give MiW 2 thumbs up.
Motionless Iâm white has such a great stage presence I got to see them in 2020 before the pandemic and holy shit they fucking rock shows sold out the Portland Oregon show and fuck was it amazing
Motionless I'm white? Never heard of them, sounds corny
Marilyn Mansonâs Holy Wood is in my top 10 albums of all time, and Antichrist superstar is iconic too!
Antichrist Superstar and Hybrid Theory may be the most important albums of my life
Mechanical Animals has a special place in my heart. I just love the vibe of that album.
@@sharkuel well yeah itâs the holy trinity , Mansons trilogy. I just feel sad that Finn canât feel this music. Thatâs why I d recommend Holy Wood to him , itâs more up his alley with the punk vibes of âburning flagâ, âborn againâ, âfight songâ.
I ve listened to all 3 albums a gazillion times !
Ghost in the Mirror is their first music video with Frank as the bassist.
As someone who got into metalcore around 2010-2011 Miw has always been the realest in the game especially amongst the Yacht rock most of those bands are making now
Not sure about realest in the game lmao
I love MIW because i get so many breaking benjamin vibes from the vocalist.
I learn about so many bands that I've never heard of from you, Finn. Appreciate you man!! đ€đ»
Thoughts and Prayers is a banger. Been my PR song for a while. Gimme the 16ths
Haha love MIW but had Heart Attack Man pop up first when I read thoughts and prayers đ€Šââïž hahaha
So glad to see you talk about MIW! (My favorite band). As for their first album, Creatures, Iâd say what set them apart to me is that they used synths in a way much closer to electro-industrial as opposed to how other metalcore / electronicore acts were using them at the time (sounding closer to trance or EDM).
Like Iâm sure you pointed out, their second album I think added some Marilyn Manson vibes to their sound.
What made me happy about their second and third albums in particular is how they worked with Tim Skold. A lot of people know of Skold because of him being a part of Marilyn Manson for two albums, but what I think he should be more recognized for is his solo industrial stuff and his tenure in KMFDM.
On their 4th and 5th albums, Iâd say MIW pulled more influence in from nu-metal.
What makes them my favorite band personally is how theyâre able to mash up a decent amount of influences and blend them together while tying them in to a sort of horror aesthetic. Some songs are campy and fun, and others are serious. A good blend of everything in my humble opinion.
As someone who is an epileptic, a warning is better than not having one at all and then someone having a seizure and then Motionless in White and company is viable for a lawsuit.
Videos have to have warning that need to have that lights or anything that can trigger a seizure. Whether you hate it or not, its just for those who need it. Same rule applies to video games and movies. I have lived with epilepsy for 12 years and i hate even having it.
Well, why not just make a video with less flashing so epileptics can watch it? Thatâs my point.
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA But then it impedes on what the musician visions on its creativity. Yes it sucks for us that we have to watch said video with flashing lights but its their creativity, their music video. They can do whatever they wish with it as long as they know that a warning has to be put up for those who are sensitive to flashing lights and/or have epilepsy. Don't get me wrong Finn, i get what you are saying but if every video had less flashing lights to help those who have epilepsy which in a perfect world would be nice, will never happen, it will feel like another restriction being placed on the artist.
I absolutely loved disguise. that album was soooo awesome. I think I am ready for new stuff now though. so bring it on
Fearless signed some really great bands during those metalcore years. Pierce The Veil were signed around this time too.
Real scene kids remember when Jeffree Star actually made music đą
Ooof, that sounds terrible đ
Listen to Santa's Pissed by MiW. Back when they were still just local. You won't regret it.
I'd love to see a video about Sullivan King meshing EDM and Rock
My wife and I saw Motionless with In This Moment last summer, holy shit was that a great show!! Crazy shit happened in the pit tho, is sitting down and doing simulated crewing to the beat shouting âRowâ a thing outside of Montana? Itâs been a minute since I was in the pit but that took me off guard. Gotta say the kids stopped being total assholes like when Scene was a thing. No more throwing elbows and shit.
I thought this was a video about Cyberpunk 2077 when I first saw the thumbnail. I was like yo u didn't know he did video games toođ
My boyfriend met Chris Motionless at Van's Warped Tour ages ago. He was super drunk and had no idea who he had met until later on.
@1:16 at that time they WERE a local band. yeah, creatures was released on a label but they still regularly played cafe metropolis in wilkes-barre and all the dives in the wyoming valley
I love MIW. Thhey have really evolved in refined themselves and their sound. They have a great mix of heavy and pop-ish songs. Something for everyone.
I absolutely love MIW and I fucking love this song the album can't come soon enough
Just saw them on the Trinity of terror tour, I had seen them previously as an opener for Slipknot, and I hated them live back then, but they surprised me and really blew me away. All three of the bands from that tour kick ass
As a member of the dudes-in -their-20s-with-beards club, I can say I love this song.
I love the toughts and prayers it has really good vocals and the Another life is really good too. And btw i love how down to earth the band is. They seem like some very nice guys.
I'm not even going to lie creatures as one of my favorite albums when it came out
I'm so happy Finn finally talks about miw it makes me happy to know that he'd heart this comment lmao
The picture on the thumbnail has some real âwe demand 5 tickets to The Boss Baby 2: Family Businessâ energy
One of the few bands in the scene for me that has always delivered since Creatures and just got better overtime
That point about the vocal mixing... man ALOT of bands need to hear thisââđ
It feels like a lot of bands lately drown their vocals, and a lot of times they have a talented vocalist but it's drowned out, and it puts me off, I'd even prefer more autotuned vocals that are louder than vocals that are drowned out.
Great song! I've been a huge fan of them since 2011 and like you said they just keep improving đ€
Graveyard shift is their best album. Loud I wasnât a huge fan of but itâs still a banger! One of my all time fav bands!
Edit: I stand corrected. Well done Miw.
That intro riff was pulled straight out of the Born Of Osiris playbook and I love it!
It sounds like Chris ripped his chords. Feels a lot weaker. Probably why he does cleans more on the new one.
I said the same thing, im in NEPA where Motionless In White played at the local venues before becoming famous and I thought man this is one of the best local bands around, but I never thought they would be famous and grow as much as they did.
The road from metalcore to WWE-core
OK kids, settle in for a boomer/genX bedtime story.
Once upon a time in 2019 I first saw MIW by "accident" opening for Alice Cooper-Halestorm. Got a pair of tickets from a co worker whose wife was sick. Took my then 15 yr old daughter who wanted to see Halestorm and I didn't mind seeing ol' black eyes again (daughter was not impressed... "who's that old guy creeping around with the cane?" đShe was duly impressed with his guitarist. some blonde who killed it every time she stepped into the spotlight for her solos). I had never heard of Motionless in White and didn't even bother looking them up and sampling some songs prior to the show.
Anyway I was in the t shirt line not even paying any attention to MIW who obviously was the opening act. it was at open air Starlight Theater in Kansas City and we could still see the stage while in the shirt line. Most of the crowd is what Finn calls "red state butt rockers" but there was a small pocket of vampire kids with blue, violet, green hair and the mandatory paleface & dark eyeliner look who were singing along. Unfortunately for MIW it was a summer show & they were on while it was still daylight and their stage design and lighting didn't come off too well. There was no big screen media visuals just a plain black curtain with MIW logo. Maybe a few headstones I don't remember. The whole band looked like cheesy wanna be vampires trapped out in the sun. I think I even joked to my daughter about the angry little vampire band. But their sound was half decent and even not knowing diddly squat about them I found myself tapping my foot and nodding my head as we s-l-o-w-l-y made our way to the shirt tables. By the time we got to the front I bought an MIW shirt cause I've always supported "new" up and coming bands. LOL. Besides I already had Halestorm and Cooper shirts from prior tours. Imagine my surprise when I discovered that MIW wasn't a "new" opening act level band at all and they had like 4-5 albums out over 10 yrs. Why isn't this music on the radio? WTF?
Still with me? Need a sip of water? we can finish the story tomorrow if you're dozing off...
OK, here we go again....
The next day I looked up MIW on CZcams and watched bits and pieces of a couple live concerts to see their show at a venue with proper lighting and sound. Oh yes, much better. Hearing song refrains I recognized from the night before I looked at the timestamped setlist in the comments and got the song titles. Disguise, AMERICA, Voices, etc. I searched those songs/videos to hear studio versions. Not bad. I got the album names from the description and searched "MIW Full Album" and binge listened most of the day. I created a Motionless in White station on Pandora to find other songs in whatever genre this was. Who knew a person could have so much unresolved teen angst/anger/rebellion at almost 60 yrs old. the last 3-4 months been doing a deep dive into Dark Wave, Synth wave, Industrial Goth (check out YT channel Communion after Dark: czcams.com/channels/vb_p-FZTOiTRDhUU78Kwww.html ) but MIW still come up in my recommended list on YT occasionally. Check out Deadstream II from the old Pennhurst Asylum czcams.com/video/BLI-OqfxEE4/video.html. great show!!
Saw them live again last fall (2022) in Bonner Springs at whatever they are calling Sandstone Amphitheater now a days. All I can say is the Trinity of Terror tour kicked ass. MIW, BVB, INK
Having discovered this band and others 4 yrs ago at 56 yrs old I guess I started my goth phase a bit late and now will live happily ever after. If only the normies at work knew what I was listening to in my airbuds at work. HA!!!
nighty night kiddies... watch out for whatever's under your bed or lurking in the closet.
I love their earlier Creatures sound best but I do dig the newer stuff and all the production in it. Can't wait to see them live again.
Lifelong MIW fan and I def agree where you said that âThoughts and Prayersâ sounds as if they were doing Creatures but better. They have 1-2 of those on every album and I wish they would just stick to that. I canât get into the âLoudâ âCyberhexâ type stuff that you actually like better. âThoughts and Prayersâ, âSoftâ, âUndead Ahead 2â is all upgraded creatures. Iâm dying for an album of all of that type of stuff but it seems to be starting to trend in the opposite direction which bums me out. Especially now that they are on tour with Black Veil Brides and Ice Nine Kills. But fuck it my 35 year old bearded ass will be there regardless.
âThe Ladderâ is definitely an upgraded creatures song as well
9:16 with the raspy vocals and then the high end instrumental+nearly falsetto vocals reminds me of old Korn.
Also, props for the FF7 reference. đđđ
Have been a huge MIW fan since I first found out about them in 10th grade (2011-2012) cant wait to see them on the TOT tour!!!!
"Someone watches 7, the makes a student film" genius!
I'm kind of late to the MIW party but I loved Graveyard Shift and Creatures. This new song might be a bit of a grower for me, but still pretty good!
Also, side note: Are my eyes deceiving me or is that Chris Fehn (ex-Slipknot) playing the ringmaster in the America video?!
Had no idea they existed until I saw the Cyberhex video on my feed. I'm hooked - super looking forward to the new album release.
chris has good positive vibes in real life. I do hope he won't get too much gatekeep. Metalheads can be hard.
My new favourite game is "Finn Mckenty opening" i try my best to get word for word on the intro and im like 65% there xD
Top tier band for sure
I agree with Finn, if you only listen to/watch videos that agree with what you already think, you're doing yourself a disservice. But also, it's nice when someone else justifies your liking something lol
Also, never paid enough attention to see that Clown directed America. I definitely saw his style in it, but never bothered to actually see who it was.
I played cyberpunk on ps4 when it came out and it was fine to me! Loved the game wish there was more to it tho !
Ghoste, Slipknot and MIW are my favs I feel caller tf out
Every video Finn puts out âIâm not really a a fan of this band or this genre but it is technically pretty good!â
Huh? I like Motionless
It looks like these guys resisted being influenced by the Manson era where Nine Inch Nails was producing the music and went right to the butt rock Manson made in the 00s.
Thank you thank you so much for finally giving MIW some recognition! Such a talented band
Iâve been listening to this band since before creatures. If you listen to their entire catalog you can see theyâve danced around genres the entire time and have done it well. They have a fantastic sound and do it well!
Chris has got some pipes
This single also reminds me of Korn - The Path of Totality , and i liked that album.
And for some reason this songs appeals to me.
Never cared for Motionless In White but i could listnen to this.
Alexisonfire is back I think we should address that
I noticed around the time Reincarnate came out they started getting more radio play. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think Infamous had any radio songs
I stopped listening to MIW a long time ago when their sound evolved out of my wheelhouse. Still rip Creatures from time to time though, 10/10 album!
Finn is a savage!
Absolutely love this band, every album is different style but always so good.
oh yessI thought back then they where Aiden.. but metalcorey.. never noticed they became bigger than Aiden where was Aiden was trying to be MCR and AFI combined
Motionless in white is my favorite band next to lamb of god. And Iâd say motionless more so because of goth culture and the friendliness
I love MIW.. for some reason they keep interesting to me.
I have a beard and I love these guys haha. I'm not some gatekeeping asshole though. I've learned to appreciate all types of music.
MIW have been pretty solid, they know their market and how to work it.
Damn motionless In White is the best goth band of all time right up there with Five Finger Death Punch, Lil Nas X and Slipknot you really got to give it up for the ogs who created the subculture in the first place this is definitely a good way to start you're goth phase đđ€Ł
It's like if doom and cyberpunk had a baby
Cyberpunk Goth
Very cool you did a video on MIW. Iâve been listening since 2010, I just went to a show on 3/17/22 and they killed it along with ICE9KILLS they did well another band that has gotten better with time
Saw this same tour in Chicago. They were incredible!
the high production/ pop sensibility version of them just makes sense. Like if AFI wanted to be a bit more brutal/ industrial. Theyâve got my attention now!
Thoughts and Prayers sounds like Slipknot because Corey Taylor was supposed to feature on it
I was wondering this Q for the last couple weeks finally googled punk
rockmba /motionless.....any 3days ago this dropped hummm
Iâm not an old dude with a beard lol so theyâre right. A have a handful of female friends that are into them too
For me, they became more lyrically inmature as they progressed but their sound improved astronomically so they are forgiven.
That Jeffery star commit had me rolling
Is it just me or did they always have awesome merch? I had a shirt with Dracula on it, I got one at warped tour that was inspired by Stone Cold Steve Austin. I remember those booty shorts lol my scene friend had a pair
Jeffrey Starr đ€Ł
On that semi-related note, Hollywood Undead also has new shit.
I think what helps of MIW to keep improving their music is the fact that the band has went through lineup changes and that changes the direction of the records and obviously the producers and the people who mix the stuff are also involved.
I prefer the metalcore stuff they did with Creatures and the songs they put out recently to commemorate such record.
Motionless In White is a great band overall. They know what works in the scene they are in and how to make it well.
I'm so glad you reacted to this. I love this band
I love their last album
I try to see them every time they're in town
Great track. Very CyperPunk 2077. Fun game. It was never very buggy on XBOX Series X.
To the person that called them spooky Breaking Benjamin: I hate that you're right...
I love your channels, Finn!! I just couldn't agree with your opinion in the begining of your video because I legit loved the Creatures music video. And the whole Creatures album. Still listen to it all the time!!