This series is just FULL of UNNECESSARY AGGRESSION! | iRacing GR86 at Summit Point
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Let me know if you guys like the Quad view used in this video. :)
It's pretty cool
I like trying something different, but I missed the wide open front view and all the telemetry to know what's going on and who you're talking about. Vote is for the other setup. :)
I liked it. Plus, the orange led lighting is a nice change too.
Not a fan unfortunately. I have a ultra wide and like it when your cockpit with is in the middle of it :)
It'a a bit distracting, to be honest.
I took a full season break from GR86 and just recently came back this season and raced for the first time at Summit Point last night. I thought I was going crazy and also thinking "Wow, people are unnecessarily aggressive during this race". Thank you for confirming what I was feeling.
Imagine that one guy hit my after the finsh line ( after i passed him in the last corner )
People are thirsty in those 15min races I tell ya.
Iracing needs to figure out incident points for little bumps and scraps. You have some first lap hard door to door racing but end up with incident points and have to be cautious for the rest. Needs a revamp!
The whole SR system needs revamped.
I get it's incredibly difficult to make a perfect system, but I shouldn't be penalized for having someone netcode with me then get a 4x with a separate individual.
@@sneekibreeki8162 Totally - even if they can start with the off tracks first. Getting super minor off tracks, or pushed wide and no advantage gained but still a 1x adds up, specially if you were caught in a tight T1, lap 1 bump and have one or two 4x's. If they can work on some warning system, or evaluation systems like other sim titles i think that'll make it a little less stressful and annoying because then you may only end the race with a 4x from contact and not more from little off track moments with no advantage gained.
@alexmattie glad to hear I'm not the only one who thinks off-traxks to be done away with. I thought it was a controversial opinion. Obviously keep the track cuts, but do away with off tracks.
I love racing oulton park but the track limits on that track are abysmal. If your tires so much as sniff the scent of grass from 50 feet away, you get an off track. And it doesn't help that the track is either asphalt or grass.
But there's spots on VIR where you can literally have 4 wheels in the grass and get no off track. You won't even get an incident point unless you hit a wall or tire barrier.
So a little consistency would be great as well
I get that there will never be a perfect system for generating safety rating, but its always seemed crazy to me that putting a wheel a bit over a line four times is the same penalty as triggering a multi-car pileup.
Your intros have made me laugh so hard lately. “I hope you next poo hurts” and “he’s dead” are so simple but so funny.
Thanks for the content lately DC.
5k IR and a D license tells you everything about Thomas.
Yeah, he's a generational talent. Should be 9k by now
Was happy to see Thomas get wrecked out on lap 1 you sure knew he was trouble lmao
5k irating guy with a D license is always a red flag lol
Laughed out loud when I saw that in relative. Its equivalent in A license is -0.6 SR…
Had Thomas and Jack Doohan in the MX5 race at Winton...that too got a little bashy. Put it down to IRL racers blowing off steam...but clearly, its more than that.
Thomas is great driver
But bad racer.
Is Thomas a IRL racer?
"Put the chat on"
Chat: "Reeeetaa...."
I'M SO GLAD IT'S NOT JUST ME DROPPING MY SAFETY RATING ON THIS RACE!! Thanks for the video
GR86 Race and you say "Fingers crossed we are going to have a nice clean safe race" 🤣 That's some optimistic thinking there, GR86 is a crazy aggressive series, cost me my bloody A licence but I do love it, it provides such close racing.
Love the Quad camera view Dave. Awesome !!!
Nice to see someone hold to the middle or left after the chute, great race.
Iracing needs the add the Shenandoah circuit that you essentially looking at just after you exit the corner after the chute, it's a mini nordshielf
I knew straight away who was going to be the issues in this race as soon as I seen the entries... Some people never change :D
Great to see you Mitch. Hope you're well 😁
:D
Great racing Dave and enjoyed the editing when you had the screen split into 4 different camera feeds. Keep up the great work
Top split racing .... wow! Wonder what lower splits are like..... guess I'll find out. Well done Mr. DC 👍🏾👏🏾
omg you're not kidding!! gr /gt4 is a nightmare this week.
Lol, that's me that got DQ'd. I was running this series to practice for my races at Summit this weekend. I got so many points from getting tapped and a bunch when that car went off in T3 and I caught them. This series is a SR black hole
Liked the multi screen stuff in this vid Dave.
can't wait for the next upload!
Brutal but fun race👍🏼👍🏼🏁
Im sorry but its so funny watching incident points just pile up in some of your races. When you got the 2x out of no where. For ZERO reason. I could not stop laughing.
He picked up Paul's loss of control 2x from the contact before
@@1spiralout yeah 2x's like that are just so annoying
Ah - the Buttkicker - that damn thing is like unarmed combat! When I did that earlier in the week the first lap was that scrappy i was on 8x by the end of the first lap
Hey Dave. Love your videos! Just out of curiosity what settings do you use for all your info from crew chief? I don’t get nearly as much detail! Like incident points etc. May be an interesting future video! Thanks for all the great content! Cheers.
It's the release candidate version of crew chief. You can get it from the beta section on the crew chief forum 👍
I’ve been having a good week this week after getting my butt kicked at the glen, 3 poles out of 7 races with a win! You did well to stay in front of Henrique, if I remember correctly he was leading the series last time I checked
Great racing Dave! I’ve recently started the series this season and it is fun! However, it is taking on a Cut Throat Cup (Carburetor and Pick Up Cup) character. Still looking for that needle in a hay stack victory in the G86! Thanks
See ya on the track!
#783
Yep, i came back to this series after a couple season break. Ive been intent wrecked both weeks. Wont be back
One thing I dont understand watching your races is you are racing at a 4.5k irating level yet every race there appears to be people that shouldnt be there just like th #4 car you called out in this video.
Depends on what series and time slots he’s running. May be only one split running.
Iracing rewards dirty racing. Sure it will cost you sr to race dirty but you will easily gain ir by doing so.
Good racing with you, while I finished towards the back, but had 0inc points!
i think you must have been the only one with 0 lol
Hey Dave. Awesome video. I'm wondering if you could test the clutch pedal for us. It would be very cool if you could actually feel the bite point haha
First of all great vid and entirely accurate RE: Summit Point and the GR86s. 😂
Many thanks for all of your sim racing content as well, it has been very informative and helpful! 🙏🏻
Apologies for the newb question but what is the device to the left of your wheel base that’s angled towards you?
I’m assuming it’s a button box but I couldn’t find a link to it listed in your rig equipment lists?
Took another look and the list and figured out it was the PSE Pro Switch Panel! 👌🏻
Yes indeed it is. Thank you for the kind words 🙏
the one gr86 official i did was the first and only time i ever got DQed.
the car is so fun to bang doors in, i kinda wish iRacing would be more forgiving on some series.
As a regular in this series. Scrappy is definitely the term I would use, especially around a place like Summit Point
Haha - I love when Jim says - "Stop the banger racing".
Great video. I like Quad View only for the purpose of showing new racing gear. Otherwise, there is no point in doing it, as it is all about watching the race. I can't wait to hear about your experience using SC pedals
It's only at times when there isn't much going on in the race 😁
Looking good Dave! If your headset is bt that could be why your audio cuts, if it runs out of bandwith. I had similar issue, and i ended up switching mine to a pair with dedicated bt receiver. Cheers
My headsets are wired 🫤
The triples are back?? Nice!
Was spectating a friend on this yesterday... can confirm, the aggression is very unnecessary 😂😂
I thought me losing a 0.36 irating ( due to 14x) was bad news. Then I see you dropping 0.75 and I feel like a lightweight
Hiya Dave. You know that I love your editing skills, but this one.... Ok, to start off with, have you seen the film 'Twin Town'? If not, you need to. Especially when it comes to what I have to say next. It's the scene where Bryn Cartwright gives his reaction to the new rugby field. Don't take this the wrong way, but when the video split into 4: that was THEEE Bollox. Now go & watch the film 🤣😮. Keep up the stellar work.
Haha, thank you mate. No, I've not seen it but I'll look for it 😁
Thomas McMillan is genuinely one of the best drivers on the sim! A true generational talent! UPPA LOBS!
I heard Tommy Mac was a shoe-in for a GT3 seat this year
The quad view wasn't bad, but would prefer a larger screen covering driver POV and smaller screens showing the rest .
I’ve also been having that same issue with the audio cutting out intermittently
Aha! The shifter has moved to the left hand side I see.
I found the quad view to be an interesting change along with the lighting.
I did the GR86 Watkins race last week and while some folk were a little aggressive it wasn't over the top which was good.
Of course given my relatively low IR the split I was in meant the driving was shall we say not quite optimal. 😉
I've had to move the rig to fit on the new pedals and needed an access point 😁
You should get red lights to come on behind you when you brake Dave!
5k drivers with C & D licences? jeeezzzzz what a series!
If you see an Aussie in that Falken livery RUN!!!
Welcome to the aggression that is GR 86 series. A good way to lower s and I rating in one simple race. The car and track are terrific, just bad luck with the contestants.
His bumper grown back so funny
I run pedals stiff both gas and brake and also on brake I have a vibration warning when I am at 80% brake pressure.
Just had a race in this. They should rename it as block & punt series 🤣
What is it with the netcode in iR recently? Just watch how the cars are moving/warping especially noticeable on first couple of laps.
The safety rating system in iRacing has been broken and nearly useless for so many years. They really need to revamp it, because this kinda shit is ridiculous. 2 week ago, I had 4.49. After 6 races, I'm down to 3.2, and I've mostly done nothing wrong, aside from getting a couple points here and there for going off track. It's like a never ending struggle that you have very little control over. The only way to guarantee you'll have a clean race is to start dead last and never overtake anyone.
I don't know if it's just me, but since Corona too many chavs have subscribed to iRacing, so the insults and ruthlessness have increased a lot. You can also write a protest for this, which you should definitely do so that IRacing remains sportsmanlike.
I also have the bald head. I took a header off of a thin piece of aluminum extrusion lol
Always worrying when you see someone with massive IR but on a very low license/SR. Im sure he’s killed me at some point haha
This series is either amazing or terrifying 😂
You need to slow down with the „if you don’t like this video at any point…“ that’s at least what I did understood 🤣
I was in that first race which didn’t go so well for you. So I can back you up on how bad it was. Saw both yourself and last year’s V8 Supercars Championship winner, Brodie Kostecki get taken out of the race.
Early days but I'm assuming you can get up to speed quicker with these pedals and are consistent etc but not necessarily any faster than Simgrade/SIM Labs
Personally I feel it’s important for Simucube to ask for these back for any buying recommendations forthcoming or not to be taken seriously.
yeah, i lost ir and sr in this race, it took 3 runs and finally was gaining sr here.. i lost it down to 3.1 and ive gotten it back to 3.3 this is a rough series.
Can you adjust the pedals for example moving the brake more to left for more space if you understand what I mean like by fanatec
Yes they are all independent pedals so can move left & right 👍
Hey Dave. I was in the practice session with you yesterday when you were have comms issues with your mic. I tried telling you how it sounded but dont know if you heard. Im pretty new to iRacing but that split i got put into was even worse than yours. After getting battered in the mx5 initially i have built up my sr and ir to 3.5 and 1350. I had the same car collide with me 3 times and a second one resulting me and the first car being disqualified, its frustrating lost of 97 ir and 0.2 sr after being in 7th place. Still bugging me and im away working until Monday now lol Im really enjoying the clean races but the penalties recieved from others is a nightmare mate. I would have filed a protest but didnt have time to sort before i had to leave for work.
How can you Set Crew Chief to tell Irating / safety Rating of car in front?
so many incident points Jims throwing shade at you
If you're a fan of losing rating and getting shoved of of the track, then this is the series for you. Going back to Mazda racing to get my SR back. You did a great job though.
As last seasons Div 1 Champ, it saddens me the aggression lately.
Also, free cars seem to bring out the animals, no matter the split
Going to the grass is over aggressive says the man who went to the grass anftera gd launch I the TCR race you done the other week 😂😂😂
Aye, but I was only doing about 30mph 🤣
What’s the point of active pedal on clutch?
If you had a choice between the active pedals valued at about £4k or a motion rig of equivalent price so about £4k which would you go for
I have both. If I had to choose then pedals (brake and gas)
They are basically racing like people on Forza motorsport
@davecamm at 6:50 in the video you have CrewChief read off your incident points, and the licenses and rating of the driver in front of you. How are you doing this? LOVE YOUR CONTENT!
It's the release candidate version. You can grab it from the beta sub forum on the crew chief forum 😁
The MX5's have also been extremely aggresive lately. Even in the higher splits :/
Julie keeps beating up on poor Uncle Dave. Hoping your head heals quickly.
17:25 omg Jim is so rude in 2024 ;)
I've always gotten the most incident points in the GR86 Buttkicker Cup. I don't understand it either.
Dave as an owner of the SC APs for months now, it makes no sense to have a £2K pedal sitting there doing nothing, used for the occasional manual geared car to me. Your get a far better experience using it as an accelerator in my opinion.
It's all part of the testing. 👍
Thomas was all over the place! So serious question though! was he just super aggressive on the wheel and that's why he was all over the place or was he on a controller? Because that erratic movement seemed VERY controller like to me as i've never seen that quick fast movement from a wheel user before
Anyone agree?
Thomas is in Australia so the ping may have made his car look a little more erratic I guess. Still all over the place though 🫤
What is the purpose of the active pedals? I'm presuming there for a 'real life' feel?
On the fly flexibility in how you want pedals to feel and react. The ABS is nice to have in car with it but also all the settings to adjust travel, warnings when you reach brake % to help with preventing lock ups and threshold braking. The gas I have setup staged to ensure I am applying smooth acceleration out of corners. It’s pretty limitless what you can configure and it’s all on the fly using the software.
Do you crew chief? I don’t get a driver irating when they’re near me
What setting in crew chief make it call out peoples irating during the race?
you think they are scrappy in this race, you should see them in the lower splits.
If it's any consolation, hair is no defense against a monitor side arm anyway.
Audio issues like yours could be CPU related. I had issues like this in the past when the main thread was overloaded and the CPU can't keep up anymore. You could try to lower your frames to a state where they are rocksolid in every situation and check if the issue persist. When the issue is still there than it is most likely a driver issue. I don't think it is a broken amp because the issue is also in the video.
My frames are rock solid with gsync (116) with plenty of overhead. I'll see if I can update the drivers 👍
Class C
Allowed to drive any regular bus
May also drive vehicles in class D, F and G.
I thought I was the only one who thought this series was rubbish for SR
Is that crew chief giving out ratings 🤔
On my 1st race yesterday on the GT4's i had 4x befor the race start and rear got more spanked then Mia Khalifa 😂😂
You’ve gotta stop hitting people with that back bumper mate lol.
Hope alls well 🙏🏼
They really need to over hall the point system, how did forza get a penalty system so good and iRacing is so far behind now? i love the sim but its so annoying when you've done nothing wrong and still get punished
Helmets and flame-proofs should be made compulsory in the rig room.
A lot of SR losses in this series lol but Gr is becoming one of my favorites.
Why can’t people like Thomas ever seem to learn that driving like that does not win you the race, it just causes you to finish way down the field or not finish at all 🤷🏼♂️
6 Toes Dave
Getting disqualified for being rear ended 😅, is this a problem with the whole gr86 series or this track?!
there was a time when the movement of cars looked super realistic in iRacing. What happend?
The youth of today can't handle loosing. They throw their toys out the pram extremely quick. Dangerous times.
It amazes me to see 3, 4, 5, even 7 k drivers with a "C" or "D" licence ! How scary must they be! Fast and reckless. I mean, natural progression should surely take you towards an "A" safety rating, shouldn't it?
In Order to obtain B or A licences, you also have to race higher class series. You need a minimum or 4 c class races and the required Safety rating to get B licence, and 4 B licence races plus rating to get into A licence.
If all you drive is d class series, you max out at C licence even as the safest driver out there.
Have hair, still obtain head injuries. Its not all it's cracked up to be so don't sweat not having any lol
This race shows why I stopped racing this series entirely. Shocking how some people behave in these races. I had more DNF in this series than in every other else. People keep crashing into you.
5K irating in D class means that he basically takes out peoples in order to win, and that’s a big problem about the license system because this bonehead will race in the top split when he should be in the lowest. Anyway, those pedals are gorgeous, I wish I could afford them.
You look like you're riding the brake a little there Dave also not a fan of the 4 setup 👍🏻