If the N4ZIS WON the WAR, what would the WORLD be like today?
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 14. 05. 2024
- On May 2, 1945, newspapers around the world announced one of the most anticipated news: Berlin had surrendered to the Soviet forces. It was a clear symptom that the Axis was faltering, it was a matter of time before it fell under its own weight. As the days passed, the German armed forces also unconditionally laid down their arms in the west on May 7, and in the east on May 9. Finally, the eighth day of that same month was proclaimed Victory in Europe Day. The end of Adolf HitIer's Third Reich had come.
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Europe would still be Europe
Europe would still look like Europe.
Can you please explain what you mean?
@@martingerlitz1162the land mass i assumed
â@@martingerlitz1162 Europe wouldn't be flooded with Africans and Arabs
@@martingerlitz1162- You are proof that written text hides humourâŠwhat else could it mean, Einstein?
@@doogleticker5183 o I am considered Einstein. Thanks a lot. So what's funny about I find it gruesome when Nazis would still rule my home and no where to hide?? What is funny about the many many people with me NOT being a Nazi but happy to live in a democracy? Why so cynic??
Bet GB wouldn't be filled with the cult, plus he wouldn't have allowed mixed marriages .
After he had killed the Jews he would have killed all Muslims and basically anyone who wasn't blonde haired and blue eyed which is ironic given he was a little guy who didn't fit the demo.
That's crazy
should have started the hypothesis earlier, it would never have happened that late in the war.
And besides, Everyone knew about the Holchost
As a Northern European of a âChristianâ background? GloriousâŠ.!
Could'nt be any worse then having a certain demographic residing here . At least the Nazi's were Europeans .
If someone would go back in time and prevent Hitler from losing the war
If Hitler won ww2, we have blue eyes and blonde hair đđđđđ
Germany would have ruled most of Europe and Africa
We wouldnât have a world like today thatâs for sure
You want to see how Aushcwitz and Unit 731 would have looked like in 2024?
There wouldnât be multiculturalism, inflation, gender ideology or obese people.
Bro finally someone not blind and with a brain
amen to that
I actually saw one in Gazaâ@@user-td2jw9ze2c
Europe would be Europe and at its peak of science and technology, each European Nation would be pure and unique in its own way, no vandalism, no raping, strict law and order no multiculturalism no graffiti no littering.. it would be heaven on Earth
Africa would become hell.
Heaven on earth???? Are you serious??? If the Nazis won???? Going on slaughtering in an industrialized killing fields. Holocaust and no one stops it? This is not heaven on earth. This is hell on earth!
There would still be some degree of multiculturalism. As the n*zi's did consider some poeples outside of Europe as Aryans or Aryan related.
@@AG26498 no doubt there would be tourism, but nothing familiar whats happening now in Europe wouldnât be if the good guys would have won, plus I highly recommend to watch Europa The Last Battle and share with your friends and family
That wasn't multi culti. They were just allies in the war. â@@AG26498
This does not make any sense, by the time the USSR was at the gates of Berlin the western allies were well within German boarders.
From my understanding what he basically said was the landing in Normandy weren't as successful in taking a port at all, and had to rely on the measure made for the invasion which helped but were not enough alone without major port's, the allies took ground but in the wrong places and had to supply by air and makeshift port's ect, which they actually did but they took major port's also which had they not they wouldn't have had the same success, due to logistics this is why he mentioned them starving, and to be fair this the only way the Germans could have pushed back against the USSR if they were in Berlin at this time/ 1945 as the allies took some 7 million Germans as POWs from 1944 to 1945, so without that the Germans have a massive manpower pull to pull from even with the Germans using old men and boys which all nations did the Germans still had some 5 million men between the ages of 11 and 65 who didn't service in the military in any capacity, and 18 million men served at some point in ww2, 1 million of that none Germans.
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@@brianlong2334 They would still be untrained men with zero experience. Add to that no air cover, very little artillery. This is highly unlikely
@@doogleticker5183 I guess not! But please explain. The video makes it seem that the events of Normandy and Berlin are at the same time. They were not.
Churchill did say 'that 'we slaughtered the wrong pig'
Patton said something along those lines.
@@ImpKnt80,he sure did as well.
I'm rooting for the Axis to win; we would've been Japanese subjects. As a Filipino, I'd rather have a foreign power rule our country than let these corrupt countrymen lead us. What a pathetic country we have become.
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Churchill was one of the biggest german hater at this time.
Soo germanphob. GB with an other PM at this time WW2 would have been prevented. The 3. Reich always reach out it's hand to Britain. Always searching for fair partnership. Britain was aware of the danger of Bolshevism but took the idea of nationalsocialism as the bigger treat at this time.
We would not have the problem of Islam in the west at least.
Check your history.
www.dw.com/en/how-nazis-courted-the-islamic-world-during-wwii/a-41358387
yay
Not true
Hitler loved Islam
Hitler loved Islam, so you might want to rethink that.
Your Austrian painter adores islam. so no
There would be no Mel Brooks movies
No Blazing Saddles? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Or no Hogans Heroes đąâŠ.
Kelly's heroes, inglorious bastards also?! đđ
& no Lou Reed songs.
At such a late stage in the war, it would have been impossible. Its last chance would have been defeating the allies at Normandy or Stalingrad.
"The Germans lost the war...the Nazis won..."-George Carlin
Since I'm a black american I figure me or my people would be dead...
There is no way that the Nazi's could've invaded the American homeland and it's debatable that they could've even crossed the channel.
I'm Black too. I would not exist either if Hitler had one. I'm happy that Hitler lost.
@@MegaWoody1963 Well what about for Africans
Hitler considered blacks subservient and not a theat to his power
â@MegaWoody1963 White Americans like myself would welcome them in as Brothers. We held the majority then as well. So yes America would become the National Socialist States of America.
I suggest watching the series, "The Man in the High Castle".
It's an interesting show but I wish they kept it more realistic
It was a decent show until they Mary Sued, Julianna.
I found Fatherland to be better...and more interesting, starting out as a simple murder mystery set against the backdrop of US-Nazi Cold War theatrics and eventually evolving into uncovering proof of the Final Solution.
The Man in the High Castle had its moments; however, it went off the rails in the last season when the Japanese Army retreated from California in the face of the black power movement.
@@tristarperfecta1061I agree it got pretty stupid in the last season
Well the up side would be, no stupid woke generation.
LOL youtube keeps me from commenting. I have to be nice. But i agree w/ you đŁ
Iâd rather a woke generation than an enslaved one.
Youâd rather be enslaved than woke
ââ@@tedwarden1608Woke is enslaved, they have no critical thinking, they're told what to think.
â@@tedwarden1608He wouldn't have enslaved anyone of European descent. I'm completely fine with that
Well I can imagine that, so classy.
US , French and Canadian, No mention of UK forces on D day , really ?
they get that every june. well they used to until the gays and trans yelled louder.
What would the world be like today? We'd have a different Narrative.
In the book 'April 1945' by Craig Shirley he states that President Roosevelt and British PM Churchill would laugh and criticize French General Charles de Gaulle and talk about how stupid he was.
I canât see a German victory where they were openly engaged with the Soviets. I can see a decade or two later when Germany had settled Europe and then launched long range hydrogen fueled bombardment striking strategic hard points and factories, reducing the Soviets to village dwelling militias, those could be conquered in time, but with the African front, acting as Italian muscle occupying all of Europe plus trying to maintain constant pressure in the Atlantic, would be taxing enough. Of course with Japans ability to enrage everyone and the oil fields of the Middle East up for grabs, I canât imagine Hitler not getting restless dictator syndrome.
Whoooosh , it's a hypothetical video if it was the other way around
I look at Robert Harris's Fatherland (an alternate history detective story) as a realistic scenario. While he provides few details on Japan or China, his European scenario and a German-American Cold War is chillingly plausible.
Just a thought, if Germany won the war, their empire would more than likely have included, Belgium, Netherlands, large parts of western France, Poland, Czechia, Austria, Slovakia, Hungary, Slovenia.
Secrets should remain secrets.
We wouldn't have the đ©đłïž we have today that's for sure.
Being honest, given time, it would be far better than our world today.
wouldnt be able to keep anything for long......winning is easier than holding.....
The nazi economy was similar to the CCCP model. It would have been collapsed about the same time by it's own incompetence around 1980's.
Big economist here. Meanwhile the âNazi economyâ was at the top in the 40s, while American economy was crumbling and needed to get into a foreign war. Pretty much every time the American economy tanks its solution is to get into a war and lie by sayings âits for our freedomâ.
It collapsed because it spent itâs money on trying to outdo the USA, incompetently.
If they had controlled the resources needed to properly function an empire, they wouldn't. The reason the soviet union collapsed was due to not having enough resources that they couldn't get because of the iron curtain and isolation.
It wouldnt, USSR was having âCold Warâ with Western Countries (USA and its NATO allies) that were doimg Sabotage 24/7 Nazi Germany would not Collapse since back in that time Germans were 40% of USA population If Germany had Won and was allied with USSR and USA which wouldnt have much choice but ally with Germany there would be hell of good world
Capitalism is also on itâs way to collapse. The problem with capitalism is that all the money flows to one direction the rich. That is why houses are too expansive now. If it doesnât change then people will be slaves to the mortgage of housing.
Can we have a redo?
Hey, is that Dylan Avery narrating this video?!
This is the most unlikely scenario. Maybe earlier in the war things could have gone different, not that late in the war. Germany was economicaly collapsing long before 1945. It lacked manpower ans raw materials.
Everyone will speak Germany and everyone will drive Mercedes cars. And eat German sausages.
đđ 2 myths about WW2 were force every 1 to speak German and Mr H wanted to kill all the men Not German
Sealion was unfeasible - the Royal Navy was too powerful!
The forces of British had in England were too powerful. Germany didn't have the sea lift capability to put enough troops across the channel fast enough
Yes the first time they attempted but how much of the royal navy would be left after it, they wouldn't have been able to replace there ships lost in time for the follow up, but the Germany didn't even try and almost brought the UK to its knees, the battle of Britain wasn't a major concern of Hitler's, he spent most of the time getting ready for operation barbarossa because on land the UK by itself posed no real threat, even by air it was an annoyance but not a major concern.
The Germans would have had large losses yes but there concern was the USSR and the deals of the USSR joining the axis fell through, not that Hitler really wanted to but he did considered it, he did spent considerable time trying to get the USSR to trade more, a 300% increase in all goods traded between the two at the time 1939/ 1940/ 41but the soviets demanded for there region's of influence/ conquest weren't inline with his plan's and would lose potential ally like Finland.
@@brianlong2334 - Good argument - however, the Naval Forces from the Dominions (Canada, Australia etc) could still be brought into play. Germany was not renowned for it's surface fleet; which was effectively neutralised by 1942
@thehowlingmisogynist9871 The dominions navy weren't up to scratch, excluding maybe Canada just based on numbers, generally, but the British empire navy vessels are normally counted as just British, many people were still very pro empire at the start of ww2 from the dominions and identified as British citizens.
Canada produced about 400 major navy vessels for them selfs /British / the empire, still not enough, not to mention that the Australian and New Zealand small fleets of smaller vessels wouldn't have been moved in total to support the UK, as it would leave them undefended completely, Canada probably could but still to small in number.
Germany had, after the fall of France and Italy, the ability to keep pace / out produced the British had it total focused on shipping, but again his plan was to go east and he always wanted a peace deal and alliance with the UK even late in the war.
Australia had what 15 destroyers, 7 crusiers, and 56 corvettes total in ww2.
@@brianlong2334 Without U-Boats, the Kriegsmarine had nothing. Italy had a strong fleet, but were crippled at Taranto. Australia had about 80 Ships, Canada 400 - more than enough.
No chance Germany would develop an A bomb, it was based on âJewish Physicsâ
This is a grim possibility - and perhaps a very disturbing one! A very big if!
Grim? That's a subjective opinion
â@@ryanm.3393no. It's not. If you think the Nazis winning would have been a good thing, I have a bridge in the desert to sell you.
This scenario is patently ridiculous for so many reasons.
I have cerebral palsy. I am sure I would have been killed at birth
Maybe not,maybe we could have cured alot of diseases if we weren't dumping trillions into the babysitting of minorities
At 5:48 into video. Peace in NAM?!?!?! Come on people you can do better than that. LMFAO đ
I would probably be screwed in that world because I have autism and ADHD and I'm mixed I also try to be an open minded person knowing the good and bad of everything and I don't think they would like that
The scenario described in the first part of the video is the most unlikely scenario of all. Soviets beaten back by a rackstak bunch of elderly and kids defening Berlin. And the operation overlord failing due to supply issues in 1945. A plausible scenario would occur no later than 1941. Decisions and events of that year steered the direction of the conflict.
How did the Red Army lose in Berlin?
Stalingrad; maybe.
Leningrad, likely.
Moscow.absolutely.
So with old men and children fighting the Soviets on the streets of Berlin, where exactly did the troops appear from to invade Britain ? Or was it the old men and kids once they defeated the red army?
Le monde fonctionnerais de beaucoup mieux d'actuellement. Nous vivons dans un monde de merde sans aucune valeurs et respect. Inculte sur tout.
Uneducation would be far more widespread in such a world.
People saying it would be a good thing, go live in china or North Korea and see how you get on then đđ»
Wolfenstein universe
Yes
Perhaps the wrong side won
An intriguing prospect, but totally unrealistic. Considering that the German High Command loathed âthat Bohemian Corporal,â Germany was lean on natural resources, yet Hitlerâs drive for âlebensraumâ was doomed from the start. Chamberlain warned Hitler what would happen if he invaded Poland, and he most certainly underestimated Russiaâs male population. And by the time of warâs end in Europe, Hitler was half-dead anyway. Never would have happened.
Half of the world đ would be gone.
ty great videos
I see no mention of Canada. You can rest assured that no matter what happens in the UK in your scenario, that Canada would not have done anything for the Axis powers. While we would stay an independent nation from the USA, there is no question at all about the USA and Canada being on the same side. There is no possible scenario of Germany invading the USA through Canada.
BREXIT would never have taken place đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
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My generation (Z) wouldn't act so carelessly And Without intelligence
They wouldnât act at all. They would just follow orders as the children in 1984 (the novel by George Orwell)
If he would have listened to his generals he probably would have won really it wouldn't have been much different than what we have now
If history turned out the way it works out in the video here, the Axis forces would have still encountered the same issues the faced in actual reality. First: Manpower. To occupy and control all of that territory would be a logistical nightmare. Both sides had powerful militaries, but it takes troops on the ground to keep territorial gains. How many troops would they have to remove from the front lines to protect their REAR flanks. Second: Technology. Germany would have needed four engine heavy bombers to attack the industrial facilities the Soviets relocated beyond the Urals. And better U-Boats to attack the ports on the Soviets northern coast. None of these things can be done with infantry alone.
Great Britain And the United States, even if D-day failed, would most likely kept attacking in one way or another.
Its also important to point out that, for the Axis forces, they were fighting an ideological war. Not so much a war of logistics, and tactics, like the Allies did. (For the most part at least) For example, they turned on civilians who greeted them as liberators in Russia. Killed MANY for ideological reasons, wasting much needed manpower and resources.
Finally the A-bomb. Even though Germany proceeded with the attempted development of an A-bomb. It is debatable as to wether Hitler would have authorized deployment of such a weapon. I read somewhere once that, theoretically, he may have considered the A-bomb a weapon of such destruction that only a "Zionist" would deploy such a terrible thing. I think the allies would have dropped A-bombs on Berlin as well as Tokyo if such a scenario were to have taken place.
I think that if Japan kept expanding in China and USSR without attacking Pearl Harbor, things could have gone quite differently.
I think the US would have helped UK like in the First World War, but would have never sent the troops.
That is maybe a great point where to start the hypothesis game.
Absolutely absurd. In 1944 there was no coming back. If you had went back to 1942 or 1043 you probably could have come up with a scenario where the tyrannical dictators could have battled to a truce, but by 1944 it was only a mater of time on both fronts.
You seem to disregard that we had developed the atomic bomb way before the Axis
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We would be writing this on German ? To star with maybe...
Read the book " In The Presence of Mine Enemies" by Harry Turtledove....the world would be a ordered, but miserable place to live..
8:33 bearing in mind that, in contrast to its prosperity in 1870, as a result of the treaty after WW1, under its terms Germany was not allowed to grow its industry nor Milltary beyond a certain point, as France insisted upon, as well as paying massive war reparations, but after Hitler came to power after the Weimar Republic he ignored the treaty and would have invaded the Vatican, ignoring the Lateran Treaty of 1929 as he hated the corruption within the Catholic Church - Ireland was in a similar state with its military being kept low by the British, so could be easily invaded by the Nazis, perhaps being handed over to a puppet British Nazi government
Let me kindly remind you⊠they didnt
The biggest impact wouldn't have been political or military it would be Geography!
Architect Herman Sörgel plan to Dam the whole Mediterranean basin for Atlantropa. Now that's a real massive change!
IF Atlantropa was pursued Europe would be devastated. I recommend Alternate History Hubs video on the topic.
The idea that the âVolkstrumâ actually defeated the Soviet Army is so laughable that I just canât take this seriously. What other ridiculous assumptions are you making?
Dan zouden we nu wel een echt 1 europa hebben met een volk een rijk en een leider .
Honestly, if the Germans and Austrians had won World War l, it would be a very, very, very good thing. If the Germans had won World War ll ?? Not so good !! Under German and Austrian control, no country would want to deal with that !! But, the next war after World War l would probably be a repeat of Konnigratz 1866 - it would eventually be another epic military contest between Austria and Germany. Hopefully, this time, Austria would win the second contest. Russia and the U.S. would no longer be calling any shots anymore. Britain might remain psdeou powerful if they let benevolent Imperialism reign supreme. What would have happened if the Germans and Austrians had won World War l is vastly more interesting than what would have happened if the Germans had won World War ll !! It would have been a wonderful world !! No FDR, Stalin or Hitler.
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Wolfienstine would happen
Unlikely.
The world would be like Wolfenstein if Germany taken over
This well happened if art guy listen to he's generals
Probably a lot less GAEEE BUHT SEHX
Just play Wolfenstein, it's almost the same outcome đ
No way the comments would like to live in the third Reich đ
The Americans probably would have done the same thing as they did to Japan.
No Russia,No Israhell. Meh
We will all be eating sausage,cabbage and black bread thatâs a movie joke by the way
You forgot to consider the fact that when Germany gains control over the United Kingdom that includes their dominions like Canada and Australia, and the British Raj. With Canada, the Germans could have a long border they could invade the US with. I also believe that the Germans would develop the nuclear bomb before the Soviets almost like how the US nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki possibly something similar could have happened in the Soviet union. It would be a very dark world, indeed.
This is not Hearts of Iron 4. Canada, India, et cetera wouldnât just accept their new overlords. They would have rebelled and the Germans would have to get there first. Not to mention the Guerilla fighting that would have happened.
6:48
Would America of had the Bomb to end the war with Japan without the German Technology? This Secenro indicates America developed its manhattan project just fine without the Natzi tech.
Well, then theres gonna be new wunderwaffes everyday
This would of been impossible at the point that you started from. A more rational possibility would of been if England & Nazi Germany signed a treaty soon after France fell when Nazi power was at its peak. Germany does not attack the Soviet Union at least not at this time. Hitler does not declare war on the US and the war in Japan goes on much the same way
Well there would not be those Eastern European vassal states of Russia as the Azov of Ukraine would be victorious too, so the Nazi regime would definitely be stretched further east. Russia wouldnât be any further west than it is today, in fact Ukraine wouldâve probably âpurifiedâ its land and Russia wouldnât be making any territorial claims to Lugansk and Donetsk today, maybe thereâd be a buffer zone too, the M4 corridor or something.
During the invasion of Normandy, the USA was much further along in the development of the atomic bomb than the Third Reich. Partly because the 3rd Reich did not have the money for the rapid development of an atomic bomb. So it would only be a matter of time before the Nazis were bombed by âLittle Boy 2,3,4,5 and Fatman 2, 3, 4, 5.
In my outlined scenario, the surrender of the 3rd Reich would take place no later than two weeks after the surrender of Japan.
Could have been no sienfild or curb your enthusiasm.... close call!
The story is written by the winners right Soo......
Lots of books/films,videos etc with this scenario it's been done over and over what would be more interesting in an Alt-History scenario is just for one example if the Nzis had been beaten in 1940 and the German General Staff had overthrown Hitler in a military coup and restored the Monarchy....or if the Rhineland Occupation in 1936 had been resisted by France and UK. Another scenario is if France and UK had guaranteed Czechoslovakia and allied with USSR. Yet another example might be if Hitler had been blown up in the 1944 Operation Valkirye, or my favourite is if Operation Sealion had been attemped most of Wehrmacht had all drowned in the English Channel after attacks from the RN and bad weather, washed up survivors made short work of on S Coast of England, war would have ended in 1940-41 and Operation Barbarossa would have never taken place.
My Brothers And Sisters, if Hitler Had Win WW2, then What Will America đșđž, And Canada đšđŠ Look Like Now? , And, Where Would The African People And The African American People Be If Hitler Had Won WW2 To?
The first problem with this âthought experimentâ is that a few thousand old men and boys in Berlin, the Nazis refused to allow women to work in factories or to fight, lacking any real armor could have possibly turned back the hundreds of thousands of Red Army soldiers who did have massive numbers of tanks and artillery is literally preposterous.
Secondly just asserting that the Allied Forces in western Europe were cut off from their supply lines when no possibility of that happening in early 1945 as thousands of tons of supplies were being landed each day and the Luftwaffe was in full decline is ludicrous.
Then asserting that the German Operation Sea Lion to invade the UK would have taken place when it had been completely abandoned in mid-1941 following the Battle of Britain where the Luftwaffe failed utterly to gain air superiority over England and then continued to lose ground for the rest of the war is total fantasy.
Next the absurd idea that the Allied nations would just âbend the kneeâ and beg Hitler for a peace deal when his entire nation was all but in ruins with its economic infrastructure in ruin save for certain underground factories rather than simply regrouping and continuing the war especially when Stalin and the USSR were hellbent on exacting total revenge on Hitler and the Reich is little more than a pipe dream.
Finally pretending that despite the verifiable fact that German scientists had been going down the wrong path to creating even a working nuclear reactor let alone a functional atomic bomb on top of the state of German industry the author herein dives deeper into the realm of make-believe to imagine that all or most of the âwonder weaponâ myths associated with the Nazis such as a fictional A-bomb and âflying saucersâ would have been mass produced a week or two after this delusion relating to Berlin being miraculously saved by the Folks-strum forces of old men and Hitler Youth is even more absurd.
The only rational path to the Nazis maintaining their regime and possibly some of the central European lands that they managed to conquer would have been for Hitler not to have invaded the USSR instead focusing solely on western Europe and north Africa reaching an armistice with Britain, if possible, after his failure in the Battle of Britain not to mention allowing the Japanese to fend for themselves rather than foolishly declaring war on the US.
In that way he might have been able to hold most of Northwestern Africa even if he was unable to take Egypt and block the Suez Canal further impeding the British supply lines even if the Battle of the North Atlantic did go as he planned seriously restricting needed materials being delivered to England as the US was already providing much aid and Hitler could not risk war with the US.
Despite all his propaganda of âAryan Superiorityâ a nation the size of Germany with its resources, even counting those in occupied lands such as the Romanian oil fields could not stand against a nation, the USSR, that was dozens of times larger with many times the population and huge reserves of resources let alone fighting on two fronts against two such nations particularly when one of them was far beyond his ability to reach.
Anything that falls outside these three requirements is nothing less that a revisionist history delusion in my opinion.
With regard to the conceived German-Soviet âcold warâ erupting into an open conflict utilizing atomic bombs I do point out that only the US possessed the massive resources that needed to be expended to develop such a weapon, that Germany was on a path to nowhere even to create a working nuclear reactor and that the Soviets were only able to build there first atomic bombs a few years later than the US by using American technology and science stolen by Soviet collaborators inside the Manhattan Project therefore such a scenario would have been extremely unlikely.
As Hitler was vehemently opposed to using chemical weapons due to his WWI experiences such a conflict would again likely have been totally conventional although were Hitler to have died before the onset of hostilities, a very likely probability due to his rapidly declining health in early 1945, his successor Himmler very likely would have authorized initially using such weapons to offset the Sovietâs numerical superiority.
Still the vastness of Russia, the brutal climate and the fanaticism of the Soviets would very likely been far more than a match for the Nazis should they have attempted to conquer eastern âlebensraumâ in a later version of âOperation Barbarossaâ after occupying and consolidating western and central Europe, Scandinavia and perhaps northwestern Africa.
Ummm, what the Germans were some of the first to have women work in factories even after they attempted to keep women at home having children they actually increased woman in the workforce, because they paid them to have kids and to work many woman did both...
Somthing like 6 to 8 million German woman worked in factory's in ww2 they actually out numbered men by the time the war started, it was frustrating for Hitler as most of them were of prime breeding age so 18 to 24.
And half a million women served in the military from administration roles to flak batteries in Germany.
Edit: Germany also out produced the USSR in ww2 in all raw resources but chrome and oil from memory....
The USSR population was about 177 million, including conquered territories it was around 192 to 205 million.
Germany's population was 86 million Germans, and conquered territories were about 180 to 190 million, not including the almost 45% of the soviets population was on the Germans' side of the conflict for most of its and almost 10% of its land, 40% of its farmland its most fertile and some 50% of its livestock 60% of its horses, the USSR even with all its lend-lease trucks and trains still used 1 million more horses them Germany in ww2.
The USA was till 1942 behind Germany in the nuclear weapon race. The USA built its first reactor in 1942 Germany 1945 its estamated that by 1947 Germany would have produced its first bomb.
The USSR had when Germany surrendered only some 1,300 t34 left, but the time 1945 came to an end, a total of 20,000 to 30,000 tanks and aircraft, Germany lost and had more operational aircraft....
The USSR struggled when you actually look at the numbers without lend-lease its very unlikely they wouldn't have lost had they fought this war without help.
@@brianlong2334 Sorry but I seriously doubt that you can support any of these claims w2ith objectively verifiable evidence particularly those relating to the Nazi Nuclear programs as single example of a reactor found by Allied troops was so primitive that US / UK scientists who reviewed it were shocked at its unfeasible layout.
Furthermore, it took the US some 10% of its GDP on top of what it was expending for the conventional war effort to construct 3 atomic bombs and the US economy was several times that of Nazi Germany yet you wish to claim that they would have had the resources to do so in just another couple of years despite the fact that EVERYTHING in Germany at the was being devoted to staving off the Soviets and the US /UK.
Really?
Do you also believe that pixies were going to spirit Hitler out of Berlin to his secret Antarctic base that so many other conspiracy theorists / flat earthers still pretend exist?
I do note that you avoid dealing with the elephant in the room regarding this delusional fantasy which is that somehow, through a miracle I suppose, a few thousand old men and children were suddenly going to throw back a half dozen Soviet armies supported by thousands of heavy guns, tanks and aircraft.
Sorry but in my opinion you are grasping at straws desperate to prop up this fiction for some unknown reason.
@donharris1923 Seeing as you got so much wrong about the subject, I wouldn't be so confident if I were you... Sorry, mate.
The data come directly from the USA and members of the USA Manhattan project, and there reports to the USA government.
The reason the rector didn't work was due to not enough materials. However, it was very close.
1947 still isn't close enough for it to make a difference.
From memory, it would only have the material for 2 to 3 bombs a year, from 1947 onwards, enless the USSR fell, asumming it had its pre barbarossa lands or something like that.
It's unlikely that even if the USSR fell in 1941, Germany would have it before then, however.
GDP is also made up. It's a rough estimate, so using it as measurable metrics isn't a good way to estimate things, especially in ww2.
You probably also made the mistake of taking Germany 1938/1939 economy as if it didn't conquer a large amount of Europe and the USSR.
Germany was the second biggest economy in ww2, and according to most historians only slightly behind the USA, there are hundreds of different estimates for the GDP for ww2 though it's a nice touch I wouldn't be so confident in using it as the be all and end all, as it verys greatly depending on who's work you wish to use.
A few people who estimate Germany GDP as weak in ww2 do so under the impression that global trade is the be-all and end all, and without it, it means you're weak.
Germany didn't mobilise its economy and resources behind ww2 till 1944 they didn't even try to till after the battle of kursk, all of Germany's main enemies had fully mobilised by the end of 1942.
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Simply tossing out vague names of projects without adding any means of objectively verifying what you are desperate to assert does nothing to validate your claims but it does indicate that you do not understand what objectively verifiable evidence means.
Your claim that Germany did not "mobilise its economy and resources behind ww2 till 1944 " is literally ludicrous as Hitler had already begun to turn the majority of the German economy towards military production prior to 1939.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nazi_Germany
âThe Nazis believed in war as the primary engine of human progress, and argued that the purpose of a country's economy should be to enable that country to fight and win wars of expansion. As such, almost immediately after coming to power, they embarked on a vast program of military rearmament, which quickly dwarfed civilian investment. During the 1930s, Nazi Germany increased its military spending faster than any other state in peacetime, and the military eventually came to represent the majority of the German economy in the 1940s.â
Claiming that "GDP is also made up" when it can and is supported by actual evidence indicates that you are merely pushing conspiracy theories and pseudoscience nonsense in a frantic effort to pretend that this fantasy is plausible just because you appear to wish it was. This also shows that your understanding of economics if flawed at best.
www.britannica.com/money/gross-domestic-product
Saying "The reason the rector didn't work was due to not enough materials. However, it was very close" is a pipe dream as German scientists were literally decades from achieving a working atomic reactor let alone a functioning atomic bomb.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_nuclear_program_during_World_War_II
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_nuclear_program_during_World_War_II#Comparison_to_the_Manhattan_Project
âThe United States, British, and Canadian governments worked together to create the Manhattan Project that developed the uranium and plutonium atomic bombs. Its success has been attributed] to meeting all four of the following conditions:
1. A strong initial drive, by a small group of scientists, to launch the project.
2. Unconditional government support from a certain point in time.
3. Essentially unlimited manpower and industrial resources.
4. A concentration of brilliant scientists devoted to the project.
Even with all four of these conditions in place the Manhattan Project succeeded only after the war in Europe had been brought to a conclusion.â
âIn June 1942, some six months before the American Chicago Pile-1 achieved man-made criticality for the first time anywhere, Döpel's L-IV "Uran-Maschine" was destroyed by a chemical explosion introduced by oxygen, which finished the work on this topic at Leipzig. Thereafter, despite increased expenditures, the Berlin groups and their extern branches did not succeed in getting a reactor critical until the end of World War II. However, this was realized by the Fermi group in December 1942, so that the German advantage was definitively lost, even with respect to research on energy production.â
In short while the US had already successfully built and operated a nuclear pile the Germans botched the job and never received the level of government support that the US project did dooming it to failure.
Finally, you are still HIDING from the key component of this alternate history delusion even after having been told that you were. That being that the very idea of a few thousand poorly armed and untrained old men and underage boys who lacked all heavy armor, artillery, and air support could have possibly defeated the several well-armed, well-trained and heavily support Soviet armies then surrounding Berlin thus turning the tide of the war in Hitlerâs favor. The very thought is utterly delusional which is why you are frantic to hide from it instead desperately trying to distort actual history with your unsubstantiated claims that âGDP is a fictionâ and the âGerman just needed a few more weeks or months to build some atomic bombs to win the warâ.
Your inability to make any attempt to support your claims and efforts to manufacture these further fictions does appear to indicate that you might possibly have ideological leanings towards the Nazi ideology yourself.
@donharris1923 Bhahah, not even remotely true. You really need to look at things more in-depth.
I don't really know what to say, but I mean, it's literally documented that Germany didn't totally mobilise its economy until 1944 its plain to see or did they just call in magic men from Mars for that huge increase in production.... lol! Please do more in-depth research in the Dutch mate you sound ridiculous, your first post has so much wrong with it anyway with a basic understanding of ww2 can debunk 80% of your claims, sorry mate we have the documentation.
Germany basically built 40% of its ww2 equipment in 1944....
You're more than welcome to crunch the numbers and do the research, but you're more the type to just read a paragraph and claim something that's not even remotely true as you keep making post not even remotely based on fact.
Yes, Germany GDP was about what 110 billion RM in 1939, and they had spent $ 40 billion from 1933 to 1939 and were in det to them selfs, sound like they were totally mobilised for the war, haha!!!
Hitler didn't want to mobilise behind the war due to what happened in ww1 he didn't want to lose the support of the civilian population. He was, however, to so to implement it, but Germany was also short on oil, its best year it was short 20 million barrels in 1944, and in it worst 1942 short 50 million barrels.
To claim Germany was totally mobilised just doesn't make sense mate, Germany in 1944 dubbled or triple production in almost every aspect, and yet there industry was completely destroyed, how did that happen mate you need to have a much better look into a subject before trying to have a descusion/ debate or you just don't have the credibility putting up links to something losesly connected to your points doesn't help your argument.
So, to compare 1943 to 44, that's a 50% to 66% increase in production, why getting your industry obliterated.
So, how is one already fully mobilised, which makes no sense.... Haha!
Germany, for example, built what 10k tanks in 1943, and in 1944, almost 20k and about 12k lost on factory floors in 1944.
Aircraft, what 40k produced in 1944, yet they wanted 90k, even the USA estimates after the war was without the bombing campaign Germany production of aircraft would have reach 90k or more.
Better luck in the future mate you really need to do better and in-depth research, sorry.
Would medical breakthroughs have happened earlier?
It feels that nazis lost ww2 but won in long
run. We forgot that they lost war thanks to Sovjet Union, worlds leaders poses with ukrainas soldiers with nazi symbols tatoos, we name streets efter Bandera, natos leader in 60ies was nazi, Ursula von Lyen grandpa was nazi, so what. Communists can't get job, zigenare are not really emancipated and jews were moved to Israel, created 1948 for them. (Because Europe didn't want them here). Far right parties have power while everything social democrats fought for to make live better for ordinary people was more or less betrayed.
I know they be in Ukraine, but alas, there are no nazis in the world left
But according to Russia there are lol
You don't know how war works, do you?
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@@voltage80x really? What about the mass murders and the Holocaust? Are you daring to compare our democracies to the Nazi Reich?
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@@Julianist Iâm good, you?
Luckily Iâm not a student protesting against war, using freedom of speech, or else the cops would have beat the shit out of me.
The cops in America beat the shit of out of college students for being anti war. 2024, and they did it during Vietnam and the world wars. Youâre as free as the capitalist state allows you to be.