The 7 Jobs You SHOULDN'T ATTEMPT On Your Motorcycle
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Ok my bro. As a 17 year veteran of being a dealer technician, I can unequivocally tell you that I've caught several lazy, or just outright negligent techs half assing their job...
Snitch them out! Lol
@@teralhebertgriffin7681 oh don’t you worry, the customer will when they come back so he won’t have to snitch them out.
It really grinds my gears when people are paid to do a job and they don’t do it properly. Working on bikes you are literally playing with someone’s life
If you want something done right do it yourself
Basically every mechanic ever😂
Im watching this while completely rebuilding a 70s enduro from the ground up in my rotted garden shed
When I was young and riding a '68 500 Triumph I did pretty much it all when it came to maintenance. Those were simple bikes back then. Most of the bikes today I wouldn't even attempt setting the valves myself. The exception would be something more old school like a Royal Enfield, or some of the single cylinder bikes out there.
I did the valves on my Z125 pro last week. Super easy, just two screw-type valves. Took an hour and a half on the little single.
Simple bikes with screw and locknut adjusters are fine but desmodromics and shims under buckets set ups are a no no just too much to go wrong. I would love to go back to the days where bikes were so easy to work on but I also love the modern press and play long service intervals of modern bikes.
Even if it costs me more and takes a lot of time, I find it better to do your own. When it breaks down maybe 40 miles in the desert you will have the knowledge to fix it.
but having your engine torn apart in the desert that sounds a bad time.
Based on common things I have seen from new wrenchers who never even put together an IKEA table but decided that somehow working on a motorcycle is easy (which, it is super easy if you're already mechanically inclined, but if you're not, guaranteed 9/10 you're gonna mess it up and be randomly throwing parts at it because you didn't take the time to do proper diagnosis in the first place)...
This list is spot on but I would also add "changing your own oil". I can't tell you how many times someone got on the forum with a "wahhh, y muh bike am broked, it's blow oil everywhere from air box after I changed oil, did am ruinz muh engine?" Like no dipstick, you clearly can't follow directions and just dumped the listed capacity in, which is always too much because that's a dry capacity, the instructions clearly say "the oil is full when it is at this point when measured upright/on-the-stand when the engine is warm". You just put too much oil and it leaked over and got into the breather.
Some people should honestly never even bring a screw driver within 100 yards of a bike. Then again, based on what I have seen at poker runs, some people just shouldn't even be near a bike to begin with, let alone near it with a wrench.
The best is when they replace every part of the ignition system because they think that's the problem, rage about how it's a PoS... and then it turns out the problem a simple air intake leak the whole time that they never checked because somehow, spraying WD-40 on your intake manifold gaskets is scarier than ripping apart the ignition system.
I've literally done all of these. Tuning carbs, especially when you have more than one, is a lot trickier than EFI. I rebuilt my forks on the front porch of my apartment. My old Honda needed constant repairs and pretty much the only parts I never had to pull apart was the crank and transmission.
@@dean8367 Yeah, I'm sure you take your Grom to the dealer for oil changes because you don't want to get your hands dirty.
I don't recommend trimming your own beard, you should go to a professional barber shop
no way... need funny stuff to laugh at.
@@MissyMalaprop it’s patchy I do what I can!
Same with pubes, manscaped will probably get you killed
I play it safe I doy own oil and sometimes gear oil but when it comes to valves or belt or tires I let my shop do it
I work a ton and make good money. I would love to work on mine more but it’s just more convenient for me to drop my bike off and let them handle it while I focus on my work. That being said I will do all basic maintenance myself.
I don't like being my own test pilot, but I refuse to put my life in a stranger's hands.
Know and understand your limits, don’t half ass your job and you’ll be alright. Just this week the jeep dealership told me I needed a new transmission, they completely missed that the radiator had corroded and allowed radiator fluid into my transmission! All they had to do was pull some tranny fluid up to see that it was contaminated.
I feel like he could have gotten one more “KEEP WATCHING YAMMIE NOOB!” in at the end.
Every video I try hit space bar so fast to not hear that crap they put at the end, its almost been enough to hit unsubscribe a few times.
Might unsubscribe due to that annoying ending at each video.
@@lowlevelcritter7577 what if i told you, you don’t have to watch it? Theres a pause button an esc button, fast forward to next video button.
@@stang393 it's still an annoying nuisance. like saying "you don't have to look at the homeless man in your subway cart jerking off", yes, but that's not the point.
"Take your suspension to a shop" me who has resprung my rear shock and rebuilt and resprung my forks in my garage 0.0
The inline 7 is the triple of list videos.
Not too much, not too little.
Perfectly balanced as all things should be.
I did the head and base gasket on my GS850 years ago. Wasn't too bad . It all nearly turned to shit when I was removing one of the horns for access and a half shell in the rubber mount fell down the front hole for the cam chain. A few bad words were said and went to think about it. Broke the magnet from an old speaker into small pieces, tied one to a bit of string and fed that down the hole. Was my lucky day and first attempt had the half shell stick to the magnet and got it out.
Under warranty I had a starter replaced on my Harley. Two months later, after my warranty had expired, my speedo quit. Pulled it down to get to the sender and found 'milk' pouring out of the hole. The dealer tech had broken my trans vent tube allowing the trans to fill with water during rides... Which has led to numerous trans problems since. I"ve had to gut the trans two times to replace bearings so far. You know what you have to do to gut a trans on a Harley? Can't prove he broke the tube. So much for my faith in official Harley techs or the dealers they work in. They can keep their $125 per hour rates and their superior attitudes. LOVE my bike but hate the brand and their dinosaur engineering.
Keep watching yammie noob. Keep watching yammie noob. (Can’t get it out of my head.) Great video.
If you're a disinterested consumer, take it to the shop. If you have any interest in bikes, DIY. You'll learn and bikes are simple. Get the official dealership shop manual.
A $112.00 shop manual with a download/CD/files are great. TOTALLY WORTH EVERY PENNY!
@@schnertzrush417 Yes, don't cheap out on the service manuals. Nobody knows the particular bike like the guys that built it. I think the official shops manuals make working on things a pleasure.
Depends on the valve style... Bikes with rocker arm style valves are easy to adjust... Pot and shim is totally different and much easier to screw up. Also if you have to take off timing chains, camshaft, etc... It's a lot.
I have a vstrom and watched some videos, and honestly did not feel comfortable enough to do it myself. I've done them on my old BMW, but that is literally rotating the lobes to the right position, measuring and adjusting the rocker arm. Big difference.
First time I did my bike's front suspension at home I paid with blood: I didn't hold the fork correctly and the spring hit my unprotected hand, taking away some skin from 3 fingers in the process. Since then I use my motorcycle gloves when working on it. I do it at home because every shop in my city (town? Village?) just remove the old oil and fill the forks with a new one without cleaning it.
In life there is no warranty on stupidity NOOB
I'm old. First bike was 1983 Honda CB500 Custom, and it was only a year old like new. I adjusted the mechanical valves myself. I was 17 years old and it was easy. Super easy! Do what you can do... always worth it.
I don't ride yet, BUT, my take on vehicle maintenance is thus: it's a lot like cleaning guns. Yeah, you can do the minor upkeep shit, but once in a while (annually, right before season, if you're an avid hunter) you NEED TO have a professional look at it to ENSURE that it's done 100% correctly.
I've tackled valves, motor work, spokes, rebuilt my forks and rear shock, and tuning and my stuff still works 🤪
Just works right?
I can't even comprehend anyone else working on my bike. Self mapping tuners are the only way to go.
My buddy got fired from Subaru for doing his job. They said don't do the trans flush he said no not if your charging them. Fired
I did the valves on my 07 R6 and absolutely do not come from a wrenching type family. I made tooonnnsss of mistakes in the process such as over torquing the Cam Cap Bolts, which, inevitably led to stripping the threads in the head, which then led to learning how to fixing them (HeliCoil). It took me quite a long time, but after having tried and messed up over and over, I could disassemble my R6 and reassemble with my eyes shut. Most people would probably try and then realize they are in waaay over their head and take it to a tech, but for me it was worth it because a tech doesn't care about my bike. They dont' care about the missing bolt here or the loose wire there. The further I dived into my bike the more skeptical I became that a tech actually torques every single bolt down to recommended spec. They've got to get through tons of bikes and are probably less concerned about each nut and bolt being right than I am. It's my baby so in the process of getting the valves done right, I cleaned up EVERYTHING else and learned how it all works together. I have such a different level of understanding and respect for the bike as well as an understanding of HOW Yamaha designs things. It was stressful but I wouldn't trade that knowledge for anything and... again... Find it extremely hard to believe the techs do it perfectly.
Just picked up an 09 R1 and 05 R1 to rebuild just because of everything I learned on my R6! Your average rider probably does not have the patience to do a valve job themselves, or the space to do it, the organizational skills to keep track of every bolt and the capital to acquire new skills and solutions when you make the mistakes that you absolutely will if it's your first time, but IF you are one of the ones who DO AND make it to the other side, GLORY AWAITS YOU lol
The way I learned and became comfortable inside engines was working on old bikes from 70/80s, you can get them cheap (well could anyway, seems people are wanting insane prices on project bikes rn). Lots of info online and if you really screw up you can get your money back parting them out
Props to you for the TOOL logo.
"weekend dirt warrior" sounds like someone who takes the bus into the city on the weekend in the pursuit of fine chocolate starfish
The internet has ruined us.
I prefer licking chocolate starfish over vanilla ones.
Lmaoo
tottaly agree with the most except the valves and electrical stuff. on those two it really depends on what kind of valves do you have on your engine and how many electrical components do you have on your bike. on my guzzi 750 with the rocker and nut valves for example this work is very easy and fast as it takes somewhat 40 minutes.
First time I had my valves serviced the dealer never touched them.
Most of these are relatively easy jobs that just take a long ass time for the weekend mechanic, and I totally agree most are not good ways to use your time unless you're shorter on money than time.
That said, I do recommend everyone rebuilds an engine sometime, given the chance and having a place to do it.
Is this because the engine is easy to work on? Not at all. But speaking from experience, rebuilding an engine taught me a huge amount about how combustion engines work, and that was, retrospectively, awesome. That level of understanding is actually relevant to riding the bike- you can genuinely start to understand what part does what and why, and that's not irrelevant when you're trying to be an excellent rider.
Did....did....did Spite just say that his bike performs best at 13% air/fuel ratio?! LMFAO!!! WHAT?!!! If anyone is wondering, he meant 13:1 afr. 13% afr would be just under 7.7:1 afr...damn these guys say some funny stuff lol
He never drove a Royal Enfield and gave a verdict on how it sucks and is useless by looking at POWER FIGURES.
NERD
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 no, its an indian bikr by an indian company.
On other side a lot of harley parts and spares come from china
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 in india you gind a himalyan at about 3000 dollars on road
U get a 650 at about 4000 ish usd max.
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 displacement is not everything, there is a short stroke and long stroke piston thing
An adv needs more torque than it needs power while a sports bike needs power and torque which comes much later in rev range ( higher rev engines)
Then transmission plays a role as well ( re will see a taller gesring while initial gear of sports bike will be shorter stacked)
Best advise that I have to keep telling myself is dont try to do something with an uncomfortable deadline, you'll cut corners or forget something.
Electchicken here. Bold of you to assume I shouldn't solve my own electrical problems! Appreciate you saying more or less that you might be in over your head based on your own skill and ability until that one. I will keep the angry pixies extra angry just for you! XD
I do everything myself, but I have the luxury of a father with EVERY TOOL you can imagine and about 30 years worth of experience as an automotive technician. Still, I go by all the manufacturer specs and take extra time to make sure every piece of part is organized and categorized while removing and reinstalling. My first bike was a full engine out restomod 1100 Honda. After 3 weeks of testing; riding locally, I rode 1000 miles from Michigan to Georgia with no issues and continued to log about 5,000 miles before selling the bike.
I attempted fixing an electrical problem.. after replacing all the ignition components of my motorcycle, I rebuilt the carburetors for the second time that month, and the problem was solved. Can confirm that electrical problems are a pain.
So what if the nearest dealer is 200 miles away, city boy?
Do it yourself, honestly anyone who's worked on cars should just find a bike easy. It's the easiest stuff of a car without all the fancy annoying shit
You better follow that CZcams video very well
Do u live in Antarctica?
200 miles away is no place for service
@@sagar_27.99 ever heard of texas?
You should have a truck. Load it up and drive the 200 miles
5:21 ok so Spite does all the dirty work and yammie just watches... i see.
Man... I become friends with a mechanic, I go there and make stuff under their supervision. Best deal ever.
Yammster so I’ve been watching quite a few of your videos lately and weird to put it but your place of business is like a few blocks or so away from my place that’s awesome!!!!
Spite looks like the kinda guy who can make a mean pot roast
Whats a pot roast?
@@squireschown666 you should always roast mean pot... just smoke the nice pot.
Something you shouldn’t do yourself. Let Spite do it.
Been riding since 1984, mechanic horror stories ? I could write a book about it..no an encyclopedia.
Do your own maintenance, learn slowly, get the tools you need one at the time, get the OEM service manual, respect the torque specs.
That Tool band logo used for a mechanic tool was epic! :D
I have done all my own work for the last 20 years and I agree with a lot of stuff on this list but suspension isn’t hard it’s just time consuming.
For some unknown reason I want to keep watching Yammie Noob!
Loved the TOOL reference
That's why I love my xr250r. I can tear that whole thing apart without problem. It's such a simple bike. Reliable as hell too.
When will the "Keep watching Yammie Noob" insanity end!?!?!?! ;P
Lol its still kinda funny
That's why I stick to my 1988 XT 600. Kind of easy to work on. But I know my limits. Can clean and rebuild the whole carb but will never venture myself into the engine rebuild.
The problem is that if you have an older bike (in my area it's literally anything older than 2000 or an engineer thought about a carb when making it) there is no mechanics that will touch it!
Do my own Valves on my FJRs', Kwaks, Hondas. Heck, I do all my maintenance and repairs. I'm a tech that's never worked for a shop. Dealers and repair centers, cost , and way too much for what you get. I use to be a Automotive tech,(Honda/Buick) when i was young.. Was an Aviation Specialist in the Navy (AD). That's a Jet engine Mechanic. I've also been in engineering (degreed and practical). I have taken my bike(s) in for service while warrantied, and have found issues every time when I get my Bike back. I'm the worst customer.
My family (dad, uncles) have backgrounds in Machining and Engineering, even one was previously a Professional Road racer in Europe in the 50/60's. I was raised to expect businesses to cut corners and to, as Regan said, "Trust, but Verify". Allot of dealerships these days lack a level of integrity that was much more common in years past. It's hard to find a superior skilled shop, and that's usually dependent on the good people that work for them.
When I used to race mx as a kid and teen I could true a rim no problem. Now that I’m older I just bring it to the shop and pay the man. Everyone needs to make money too.
I love how on the vid, you show it took 3 days to work on the Harley. In the entire clip, you Spite are wrenching on the bike while papa Yam is eating! 😂🤣 Classic.
my weekend in the sun will be me swapping the cylinder barrels and pistons and rods on my fzr600....
fzr600 parts out, yzf600 cylinders and barrels and gaskets on fzs600 conrods in. ill lose a weekend but gain 60cc of displacement
Ah, I was about to go keyboard warrior, but then Spite said "...until you feel confident" in your skills. It's all about having the right tools and learning.
Agreed. Even the first oil change will be a pain the ass when you make twenty trips to the store picking up another tool you didn't think you need and have no confidence so have to recheck some youtube guide every two minutes.
Have that experience for a few different kinds of jobs and eventually you have the tools and experience to tackle harder and harder jobs and almost never go to a mechanic
@@QuakeGamerROTMG THIS! i'm 22 years old and been riding for about a year, but just did my first oil change (as opposed to the dealer). i bought a torque wrench and oil filter wrench, oil and filter themselves, borrowed a drip pan, and that's not even mentioning the rear stand and other tools i've already accumulated!
Anyways, despite knowing it's a super basic job, everyone has to start sometime or other, and i genuinely felt super accomplished when i finished! other than that i've made a couple cosmetic mods and some electrical work which included taking off my plastics. after all this, i've built so much more confidence to work on the bike myself since now i feel like it isn't quite so alien
If you're going to need a job done more than once in your lifetime I say learn it. First time for everything usually sucks but once you learn it then it's not to bad. At least that's kind of the rule I go by
Valve adjustment is one of the reasons I bought a DR
Remove 2 caps from the valve cover and it's a screws and locknuts adjustment
On my 200 I don't even have to pull the tank
I wouldn't want to try shim under bucket, and I sure as hell wouldn't monkey with a cpu on an injected bike
It is more important than know what you are not good at then what you are good at.
Here where i live we 15 year old boys be doing transmission jobs and building our totally own electrics ehile drinking energy drinks
Always taking my bike to a shop for electrical and suspension issues. Never getting the time back I spent doing it myself. Disregard if you are Ari Henning
UJM all the way. Mo wires = mo 'lectric problems.
Since my bike was half assembled in China, and shipped to me, in Michigan, from Texas, there is no "going to the dealer", but an air cooled, single cyl Enduro is about as easy as it gets to fix. And it hasn't needed anything so far.
Man i am watching these subcount like a hawk.... waiting for that fat TURBO BUSA :P
Ima teen dealing with tease complex shit with project bikes and not having a job makes it horrible but I love them
Servicing Desmo valves are totally a DIY ........
Valve adjustment on a SOHC Honda UJM is about a half-hour project too, I've had fuel stops take longer than that.
I mean... Unless you've just picked the thing up and the previous owner mangled the screw heads on the timing cover. And also the tappet covers.
I did the valves myself and i don’t agree it’s fairly easy work as long as you have a service manual
That is 100% bike dependent. Some are easier than others. Desmo valves for instance on a Ducati are a royal pain in the ass.
Paid the dealer to do the valve service, they didn't and left the bike a complete oil and rtv mess. When I took it apart to clean it off I checked the work. 2 valves were out of spec. I brought the bike to them to show me that it's done right. I got my money back. They even asked me if could do it myself why did I pay them!
Oil and filter, air filter, spark plugs, brake pads and lightbulbs. That's the only things I'm knowlegeable at.
As for the dealership making mistakes, I’ve had a flat tire repair and when I went to work the next day, I realized that they didn’t change the spare at all!!😂 I was so mad since I had to take it back
Picked up a wrecked ZZR250 not too long ago, fairly simple rebuild (mainly levers, crank cases and plastics) but it's been shelved because we dropped selector collar into the bottom end. No amount of digging with a magnet or probing with an inspection camera has found it.
Took it to the dealer to get it out but they won't split the case, we even offered $3000 (the entire rebuild budget) but no... the bike runs fine but just that one small part has put us off riding it.
Eventually I will get it out by either chewing it up in the transmission or seizing the engine.
Stick to getting a professional who will actually do the work.
I brought my sportster to a guy who was actually good with Harleys, after he fixed my oil leak I asked him about big bore kits and he said they can custom build me a 1340 kit for my sportster, moral of the story sometimes going to a shop brings you new things and knowledge
Usually going that big on a Sportster requires machine work on the cases. They may have to space out the cylinder studs, weld up the old stud holes, and spigot bore the cases for larger cylinders. That gets really expensive. Also may require re-balancing the entire rotating assembly.
I grew up buying motorcycles with problems for the reason they are cheap. Learned from doing sometimes asking about fixing or getting a book.
Been working on getting something fixed under warranty and it's been the biggest pain!
90 minutes battery life? So I can shear a flock of sheep and then hook the battery up to my electric motorcycle to ride home 🐑👌😎
Great points made. I have the luxury that I save money by taking the stuff apart (forks, wheels etc.) and bring it to my shop and takes care of the hard stuff and I save money on the labor taking the bike apart. That’s fun and you still feel you kind of did it yourself while it’s actually done professionally 🤘 win-win
A good rule of thumb: Can you afford or have the skills to fix the problems you might cause, if you break something during the simple job?
I can understand your statement, but the conjugation seems wonky. Maybe should read, "Can you afford to fix the problems, your skills might cause"? js
Love thy content sir😍😍
One thing I’m doing right now with a project bike is having a company perform a diagnostic on an old vf500. Sure it does cost money, but it saves me time and let’s me know exactly what issues I can work on myself and what issues will need to be done by a true professional. On top of that, it gives me the exact cost, at that current time, of all components and labor associated with the update, repair, or upgrade.
About the valve work not being done, YEAH!, it happened to me on my '01 R1 in a small Yamaha service down Little Creek in Norfolk, VA. So, yeah! It really happens.
Just watched your list. What else is left - adjust the mirrors and wash bugs off the headlight?
I recommend not even pumping your own gas, go to full serve 🤣
Gave it thumbs up to the very end
Dont buy a Victory motorcycle if you're not comfortable with learning how to rebuild the entire bike.
Most repair shops will not touch it with a ten foot clown pole.
Unless your the lucky person who lives by one of the vary few mechanics who actually have worked on them.
Did the valve adjustment on my DR350, and that was before there was a CZcams video showing how to do it. It wasn't difficult.
I'm an electrical engineer, so I'm not taking my bike to the stealership so they can guess at it and charge me their shop rate for all of their guessing.
The 600 mile break-in is due on my G310GS and yep, I'm doing it, even though BMW doesn't make it easy on the home gamer.
Having had first hand experience of several useless dealers (refusing warranty on my VFR thermostat even though it was stuck open, charging for but not doing valves, damaging my bike, getting penetrating oil on my brakes!), I'd rather do most jobs myself.
I got my first bike a month ago and the first thing I did was change the rear shock spring. At 350 I wasn't gonna wait to find someone riding around bottomed out 😂
I’ve done everything on your list except the tuning bc I do t have a dyno… I know for a fact that stealerships don’t do everything they charge you for…. Exactly the reason why I started doing my own maintenance even to changing and balancing tires when I had a sport bike. Never pay someone for something you can do yourself. This almost made me want to stop watching your videos!!!!
this almost feels like a sponsored video...
I am a newbie in the game but the little experiences I've had with shops and dealerships has been horrendous.
I'll buy all the tools before I trust any of these clowns.
What a whiney little princess you are
you should do a garage tour of all your bikes
Maybe Canadian mechanics are honest but here in the states even dealers rip you off so chill broski lol
Hahahaha I have done(almost) all of these jobs myself and I agree I should not have. I would have done well to take this advice.
BUT, now that I've successfully done them and am confident, I'm going to keep doing it and have the proper tools. I've learned so much. 😂
Valve service is $1100 at the dealership. My bike is only $4000 on a good day. I might do the valve check myself some day, but I probably won't pay 25% the price of my bike for it.
a guitar with a floyd Rose bridge since the bridge floats and it has to be perfect or else it won't be in tune :D
Someone should turn the clip of Yammie eating while Spite does all the work into a meme! 😂🤔
We should atleast shoot a video of what we are doing . So, that we can fix it again though we cannot solve the problem
Valve servicing or adjusting is the thing you should never mess
Leave that job for pros
Valves aren’t that hard
Rule number one! Never bring your new bike to the dealer. Under warranty yet they’d still charge you for a simple chain adjustment! I’m glad I learned my lesson and will never ever bring it to the dealer and put matters into my own hands
Video timing was perfect for me, my forks just started leaking and I’ve never changed the seals before
It’s not difficult, if you are mechanically inclined
Ari Henning has a good video over at motorcyclist magazine
Delboy's Garage has a good video too.
I agree, there are jobs that I am not qualified to do at this point, but I also side with those who have mentioned they have found problems, just basic problems, like loose bolts that the dealer did not catch, and for one I could have lost a shift lever on the road! I wish it was true that all dealers had competent mechanics, that simply is not true, and some will get burned.
Spites transition from maintenance to man maintenance was pretty smooth for a yamie underling
Stop yelling at me yammie 😳 I already keep watching 👀
Currently having fits with my 2006 Ninja 500 Carbs!!!!
@@jasonjulian1 preciate it man
Understand you bro
Make sure you guys oil your disks brakes to prevent corrosion ! 👍🏼
It’s not 13%…it’s 13:1 air fuel ratio…which you need a remote O2 sensor system, usually on a dyno, to analyze and adjust
Warranty work is good for dealerships, not techs/mechanics. The manufacturer pays for parts and a set amount of labor. If the manufacturer says it should take 2 hours, you get apid for 2 hours even if it takes 8 because of so on and so forth