The Yamaha held up admirably given its price point costing less than the Pass lab pre alone. Bryston's sound signature seems to have changed, smoother for the mids and highs without sacrificing the bass grip and dynamics. The BRX is totally tremendous for a bookshelf! Great video as usual! Thank you!
You may have the best sounding CZcams videos I have ever heard. I mean, it’s outrageously good. Even after all the filters and compression and what not. Great work! Keep it up!
I preferred the Yamaha... I listened but did not watch the video, was alt tabbed to play chess, when i went back and watched, i noted that it was the Yamaha I preferred. I guess I just like the very neutral presentation, with no emphasis anywhere that my ears could detect. I only hear up to 12kHz though, so I am missing everything above that range. Lucky for me there is no music up there!! I used to eschew cassette tapes because they only went to 12kHz and my 19 year old hears could hear to 20kHz... lol, now cassette's are perfect for me!
That Yamaha A-S2200 performs very nice 🤘🤘🤘 even compared with the Pass Labs/Bryston which is a lot more expensive... Keep in mind that those GE BRX go down to 1.5 ohms at 60hz and 2.1 ohms at 135Hz, not so easy to drive at all!
Truly exemplary work. I think the audiophile community has been waiting for something like this. Your videos clearly delineate subtle differences. Nobody on CZcams has succeeded in what you've been able to accomplish. I bet people will love to hear differences between amps, speakers, etc. Probably takes a lot of work, but much appreciated.
Amazing for the price. I thought there was subwoofer on at first. Very tight bass. The funny part is how well the Yamaha holds its own against the much more expensive Pass/Bryston combination.
It's still hard to believe that I'm not listening to large floor-standing speakers or stand-mounted speakers with a subwoofer!!! The Golden Ear design and engineering teams are geniuses!!!
Yamaha is putting out trend setting amps right now. Silky black noise floor and highest bang for the buck in the higher end consumer market. They will be sought after when they discontinue the line.
Just stumbled across this. That Yamaha is perhaps 96% of what the Pass and Bryston can do, but for what, 1/5 the price? Great example of law of diminishing returns. Great equipment all around, though, and wonderful test.
I've heard the brx and think they're magnificent. But like with every bookshelf I've heard, sounds like there's only half a speaker. The pass had control of the dynamics and the Yamaha didn't. When thinks got quieter and dynamics got softer, they seemed to fade away with the Yamaha but were still coherent and available with the pass. Opposite side of that was the airy highs of Yamaha sounded forward and separated from voice probwbly do to lack of control. The pass kept them right there with the rest of the vocal range and it was normal
Tof dat jullie het vergelijk aan zijn gegaan :-) Snap dat je (zoals te lezen valt in de overige commentaren) een voorkeur hebt voor de Yamaha bij vocaal werk, maar krijg zelf sterk het vermoeden dat dit ook het resultaat is van een stukje kleuring van de Yamaha... Niks mis mee natuurlijk, want een hifi component zonder kleuring is alleen mogelijk in theorie, maar wat mij betreft speelt de Pass/Bryston combi wel neutraler en transparanter... Overigens vond ik de Sonnet/Bryston combi van een eerdere video écht magisch! Oef! Maakt mij wel erg benieuwd naar wat de Sonnet zou doen direct aangesloten op mijn eindversterker...
De Pass met Bryston is ook neutraler. Maar met de Golden Ears speelt de Yamaha wat fijner vind ik. De Pass met Bryston is bijna té heftig. Maar dat is smaak. De sonnet is ongelooflijk neutraal en puur idd... Heel bijzonder.
Realistic set up you have there for comparing equipment...etc., I can't say I've heard any better on the Tube. Overall how do you Rate the A-S2200 on a 5 Star Scale? Thanks for taking the time to SHARE with us. Let me know..... THANKS AGAIN
I have a feeling that the Golden Ears speakers matched my little PMC speakers. Small speakers with a neutral sound which can also very low for it's size.
Its really great presentation. Congratulations! There are some slight differences between the amplifiers for sure. But whether it is big is hard to judge. For sure the midrange in Pass + bryston is more refined. Highs is hard to judge. But bass hmm i think more conttolled is on yamaha, maybe its only feeling because on yamaha is less bass..maybe im wrong.. Regards. For you better sound is on ??? :))
I auditioned the BRX speakers at a local retailer. These speakers sound excellent in this video. In the retail store, they sounded barely good. I didn't consider buying them even for one second.
Ribbon/AMT tweeters cannot play below 5kHz. Woofers cannot play above 2kHz. BRX clearly demonstrate this. Despite they have an almost flat FR graph, there are a lot of distortions in an area where both drivers hardly try to do their best.
@@TheAlphaAudio I think your site is great, why not do a sound recorder comparison. That way manufactures will send stuff for free and you can be sure you're achieving the best sound. Win win
We list all of our gear at the start of the video. It's a matched pair of Rode TF-5 microphones, connected to a Grace M108 pre-amp. That feeds in a pc that does the recording.
@@TheAlphaAudio Hi thank you very much indeed I have seen the listed system but I missed the PC I thought you were using a stand alone recorder The result is impeccable, Great unit the Grace Thanks a lot again Kind regards, gino
@@TheAlphaAudio Thanks again I promise the last question Between the Grace and the pc only a usb cable ? this is very interesting to me because i read bad things about usb connection. I have the evidence here that when usb connection is well done the results can be at the state of the art. Very impressive sound. Completely natural and analog like Great !
@@gino3286 This was with USB... BUT... we now use Dante, because it really is better to be honest. Even more clean and transparent. We also did use a seperate, filtered usb-card made by JCat. You need to take care or the high-frequency noise. Otherwise it can get very bad indeed.
Where all this strong bass came from?? Well, the microphones are pointed out at speakers sides, so not in from of them, so I think this may be a reason why this small speakers seems to perform bass as big woofers
Wow deze kleine speakers hebben een lekker laag. Toch eens een keer vergelijken met mijn tijdelijke borea br03 set Edit: de yamaha klinkt beter in mijn oren.
Don't get me wrong with this type of music it is LOL, try something like Lalo Schifrin - Mission Impossible (Instrumental) and than you will see what it can do....i am sure it will fall apart...
You are sure? You tried it on our system? Just played the album you suggested - Lalo Schifrin - Mission Impossible (and other thrilling themes, Tidal version, FLAC 16bit / 44.1) - and I wouldn't know why this system wouldn't be able to play it.
@@myplaguesify They should be "same sounding." Or else one is defective! The Schitt guys published a paper on their own blind testing among amplifiers and how they were shocked at how similar different amplifiers sounded across a wide range of costs and types given careful listening conditions. They loved it and now incorporate blind listening tests in all their gear decisions.
@@TheAlphaAudio Agreed. I guess it's up to the end users to figure out what their actual listening priorities are. For me, musical dynamics outweigh vocals. So I'd pick the bryston and pass. This is coming from a Yamaha owner. Your sound demo really opened my eyes and ears.
Bryson tracks the bass line due to its huge output reserves which works best (better than Yammy) for this particular track. Yamaha feels lighter on its feet though. I wouldn’t say Bryson is more dynamic. I generally find Canadian amps to be somewhat ponderous and deliberate. But they are true to the character of music and have a solid foundation. That’s a true Canadian character. :) But for fast transient music they often flounder. Yamaha feels more agile and lively on vocals and modern electronics music.
Neither the BRX speaker placement in the room, nor the Microphones relative to the speakers appears to be ideal... in fact far from it (IMO). Too bad for it really would have been nice to hear the BRX's at their best through the Pass Labs / Bryston combo.
@@TheAlphaAudio Don't get me wrong for this definitely doesn't sound bad, however (and I realize to each their own) I prefer them with much more tow in (depending upon room and sitting position of course ) and I never before heard them in any room sounding at their Best when pointed straight out into the room. And then given the Microphone spacing, which is nearly none, I would have thought that the Microphones would have done their best placed at a distance from each speaker = to the distance between the two speakers (from the image, which could be deceiving, it appears that the Microphones are much closer than the distance between each speaker). Or better still, separate the Microphones by some 6 ft and then they need only be placed out from each speaker say 5-6 ft. But then I'm not actually in your room (How I would LOVE to be), so I'm merely suggesting / guessing :)
@@johndaddabbo9383 Our room is relatively 'damped'. So we don't really need a lot of toe-in. The mircrophones are around 1,5 meters from the speakers. Speakers are 2,5m apart (I guess). Mics are different than our own ears. You don't actually place the mics on the listening position to get a similar experience. I explained that a couple of times in the comment on other video's. On the listening position it sound very far away and way too large. This is much more accurate. Just use some good headphones to get the best out of it. Or download the lossless samples from www.alpha-audio.net.
@@TheAlphaAudio Yes, I'm adequately versed on Mic placement and so Yes I would agree. OK, a ratio of 1,5 to 2,5 isn't so bad (looks much closer in the CZcams vid). Interesting, for I've never heard the BRX (or One.R or Ref) in a room so treated as yours. Although given the amount of treatment, I still cannot imagine the BRX's sounding their best with no tow in... I'm guessing that I simply like a more forward and lively presentation than you all do :) OK great, I'll definitely try out the Lossless samples... that should be real interesting. How I would LOVE to hear your room. It seems to be quite the room!
@@TheAlphaAudio Bowers 805D3 / Focal Sopra No1 / DALI Rubicon 6 - OK, so now you have me really confused... for I just located three other Speaker reviews you did and in all three instances you resorted to a % of toe-in, yet with the BRX's you found them best not toed-in at all..., where as I find that out of all 4 (actually 3) of these speakers that the BRX's sound best with more toe-in than the other 3 (actually other 2 since I haven't heard the DALI's). So again, I find it very interesting that you decided upon zero toe-in for the BRX's. I wonder if - your upstream components are playing into this / are your upstream components a bit different between the two reviews (Yup, apparently the two Systems are quite different, however I have no idea if it is that which is making the difference)? Oh well, I just can't put my head around the BRX's (or any G.E. model for that matter) sounding their best with zero toe-in :)
The Yamaha held up admirably given its price point costing less than the Pass lab pre alone. Bryston's sound signature seems to have changed, smoother for the mids and highs without sacrificing the bass grip and dynamics. The BRX is totally tremendous for a bookshelf! Great video as usual! Thank you!
You may have the best sounding CZcams videos I have ever heard. I mean, it’s outrageously good. Even after all the filters and compression and what not. Great work! Keep it up!
Thank you!
It is an exceptional recording as well
Try pursuit perfect system with Terry and his dirac live .what he can do with sound is mind blowing even on here.
I agree!!! Outstanding!!!
Very refined Bryston amp but the Yamaha held its own very well. Both sounded great!!
I preferred the Yamaha... I listened but did not watch the video, was alt tabbed to play chess, when i went back and watched, i noted that it was the Yamaha I preferred. I guess I just like the very neutral presentation, with no emphasis anywhere that my ears could detect. I only hear up to 12kHz though, so I am missing everything above that range. Lucky for me there is no music up there!! I used to eschew cassette tapes because they only went to 12kHz and my 19 year old hears could hear to 20kHz... lol, now cassette's are perfect for me!
This images quite well. I loved the big Golden Ear Triton and this sound amazing, not just for the size, but amazing, period!
That Yamaha A-S2200 performs very nice 🤘🤘🤘 even compared with the Pass Labs/Bryston which is a lot more expensive... Keep in mind that those GE BRX go down to 1.5 ohms at 60hz and 2.1 ohms at 135Hz, not so easy to drive at all!
really appreciate how well you mike up whatever we're listening to, this was great too, Jacques Loussier Trio - Little Fuge in G Minor
Thanks!
Truly exemplary work. I think the audiophile community has been waiting for something like this. Your videos clearly delineate subtle differences. Nobody on CZcams has succeeded in what you've been able to accomplish. I bet people will love to hear differences between amps, speakers, etc. Probably takes a lot of work, but much appreciated.
Thank you very much for these kind words!
Totally agree. I can tell the difference between equipment on this channel very time. Great work, AlphaAudio, turely professional performance.
Amazing for the price. I thought there was subwoofer on at first. Very tight bass. The funny part is how well the Yamaha holds its own against the much more expensive Pass/Bryston combination.
Yup, I'd take the Yamaha any day!!!
Sandy Gross approved :-)
sounds amazing even with all the CZcams compression
Thanks man!
The sound comes from my super cheap Dell PC speakers is so high end. I cannot believe it and going to audition BRX with Hegel amp. Excellent work !
Happy to help!
These have to sound great for every genre wowwww.
It's still hard to believe that I'm not listening to large floor-standing speakers or stand-mounted speakers with a subwoofer!!! The Golden Ear design and engineering teams are geniuses!!!
Amazing sound... very crystal clear sound stages..loved this BRX...💙💙💙👍👍👍🇲🇾 MALAYSIA
How much the price in Malaysia. Who is the agent
@@mansorhisham8962 perfect HiFi..👌
What is the selling price in malaysia
Price in Singapore is $1,590. Maybe not too much difference with Malaysia price?
Yamaha is putting out trend setting amps right now. Silky black noise floor and highest bang for the buck in the higher end consumer market. They will be sought after when they discontinue the line.
Just stumbled across this. That Yamaha is perhaps 96% of what the Pass and Bryston can do, but for what, 1/5 the price? Great example of law of diminishing returns. Great equipment all around, though, and wonderful test.
I've heard the brx and think they're magnificent. But like with every bookshelf I've heard, sounds like there's only half a speaker. The pass had control of the dynamics and the Yamaha didn't. When thinks got quieter and dynamics got softer, they seemed to fade away with the Yamaha but were still coherent and available with the pass. Opposite side of that was the airy highs of Yamaha sounded forward and separated from voice probwbly do to lack of control. The pass kept them right there with the rest of the vocal range and it was normal
Excellent recording. Well done m8.
Thanks man. welcome!
Tof dat jullie het vergelijk aan zijn gegaan :-) Snap dat je (zoals te lezen valt in de overige commentaren) een voorkeur hebt voor de Yamaha bij vocaal werk, maar krijg zelf sterk het vermoeden dat dit ook het resultaat is van een stukje kleuring van de Yamaha... Niks mis mee natuurlijk, want een hifi component zonder kleuring is alleen mogelijk in theorie, maar wat mij betreft speelt de Pass/Bryston combi wel neutraler en transparanter... Overigens vond ik de Sonnet/Bryston combi van een eerdere video écht magisch! Oef! Maakt mij wel erg benieuwd naar wat de Sonnet zou doen direct aangesloten op mijn eindversterker...
De Pass met Bryston is ook neutraler. Maar met de Golden Ears speelt de Yamaha wat fijner vind ik. De Pass met Bryston is bijna té heftig. Maar dat is smaak. De sonnet is ongelooflijk neutraal en puur idd... Heel bijzonder.
I can't decide for my bedroom system, BRX or Paradigm 200b....
The one plus for the Paradigm is they are made in Canada.
Best demo!
Realistic set up you have there for comparing equipment...etc., I can't say I've heard any better on the Tube. Overall how do you Rate the A-S2200 on a 5 Star Scale? Thanks for taking the time to SHARE with us. Let me know..... THANKS AGAIN
Thanks man! The Yamaha is 5 stars for us. It's a great amp! We even bought one ;-).
I have a feeling that the Golden Ears speakers matched my little PMC speakers.
Small speakers with a neutral sound which can also very low for it's size.
You are right: they are very neutral. Review with measurements will be published soon on www.alpha-audio.net.
Percepisco sottili differenze tra i due amplificatori, suona meglio Yamaha o Pass+Bryston?
Its really great presentation. Congratulations! There are some slight differences between the amplifiers for sure. But whether it is big is hard to judge. For sure the midrange in Pass + bryston is more refined.
Highs is hard to judge. But bass hmm i think more conttolled is on yamaha, maybe its only feeling because on yamaha is less bass..maybe im wrong..
Regards.
For you better sound is on ??? :))
I auditioned the BRX speakers at a local retailer. These speakers sound excellent in this video. In the retail store, they sounded barely good. I didn't consider buying them even for one second.
Well... Than they didn't do a good demo... They do sound really good.
@@TheAlphaAudio Depends on the meaning and context of the word, good. What is good to you , may or may not be, good to others.
@@bella3008 indeed... True!
Ribbon/AMT tweeters cannot play below 5kHz. Woofers cannot play above 2kHz. BRX clearly demonstrate this. Despite they have an almost flat FR graph, there are a lot of distortions in an area where both drivers hardly try to do their best.
It would be great to hear a comparison between these speakers and the Revel m106. They seem to have the same quality.
Revel makes great speakers indeed!
I can’t hear a difference between the amps on CZcams. All 3 are great
Yes they are. The Pass labs is a pre-amp and drives the Bryston by the way.
I can't hear a difference either.
@@TheAlphaAudio The reason folks can't hear a difference is because your capture gear is not great, try a Tascam DR100
@@REX4340 We use a matched pair of Rode TF5 with a Grace Design M108... I think it will do for youtube.
@@TheAlphaAudio I think your site is great, why not do a sound recorder comparison. That way manufactures will send stuff for free and you can be sure you're achieving the best sound. Win win
Please compare b&w 606 s2 which of these is the best for music
Thanks! Do you have an opinion on the differences to the guru q10? It seems to me the BRX has more highs
The Brx is a far more neutral speaker.
Hi wow ... great recording indeed. Excellent and very natural sound. May i ask which recorder are you using here ? thanks a lot and kind regards, gino
We list all of our gear at the start of the video. It's a matched pair of Rode TF-5 microphones, connected to a Grace M108 pre-amp. That feeds in a pc that does the recording.
@@TheAlphaAudio Hi thank you very much indeed I have seen the listed system but I missed the PC I thought you were using a stand alone recorder The result is impeccable, Great unit the Grace Thanks a lot again Kind regards, gino
@@gino3286 ow... I didn't mention the pc. :-). We record everything on a dedicated pc in lossless 24-bit WAV.
@@TheAlphaAudio Thanks again I promise the last question Between the Grace and the pc only a usb cable ?
this is very interesting to me because i read bad things about usb connection.
I have the evidence here that when usb connection is well done the results can be at the state of the art. Very impressive sound. Completely natural and analog like Great !
@@gino3286 This was with USB... BUT... we now use Dante, because it really is better to be honest. Even more clean and transparent.
We also did use a seperate, filtered usb-card made by JCat. You need to take care or the high-frequency noise. Otherwise it can get very bad indeed.
Good demo. Just wondering why you didn’t use XY setup for mic
We tried every setup. Ortf and M/S are most natural. We use M/S now because is more phase coherent.
yamaha less air?
Where all this strong bass came from?? Well, the microphones are pointed out at speakers sides, so not in from of them, so I think this may be a reason why this small speakers seems to perform bass as big woofers
Well... not really. Bass is omnidirectional. So it doesn't matter how you point the microphones. In the room it's just the same.
@@TheAlphaAudio check how The channel New Record Day points out the microphones.
Wow deze kleine speakers hebben een lekker laag. Toch eens een keer vergelijken met mijn tijdelijke borea br03 set
Edit: de yamaha klinkt beter in mijn oren.
Bass response that good with BRX?? Sounds phenomenal. Would AS 1200 be similar? Wonderful job.
Yes. The bass is really good with the BRX. I haven't tried the 1200. The amp geometry is a bit different. So i can't tell
@@TheAlphaAudio Thanks, great demo
More bass in Pass Labs.
very boomy sound...
can never understand the point of hearing these demo,s playing through my tiny computer speakers
Don't use tiny speakers... Put on some headphones.
This is without a subwoofer?
Yes
@@TheAlphaAudio WOW!! They really are incredible loudspeakers!
@@KeithCopeland778 yes... They are! :-)
@@TheAlphaAudio Thank you! They are on my list of upgrades!
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Don't get me wrong with this type of music it is LOL, try something like Lalo Schifrin - Mission Impossible (Instrumental) and than you will see what it can do....i am sure it will fall apart...
You are sure? You tried it on our system?
Just played the album you suggested - Lalo Schifrin - Mission Impossible (and other thrilling themes, Tidal version, FLAC 16bit / 44.1) - and I wouldn't know why this system wouldn't be able to play it.
@@TheAlphaAudio for sure it can play, but how it will sound, that is the question :)
yamaha as2200 vs denon 110a please
Well... we have both amps sampled at the same speaker. You can check them in the playlist. And you can download the samples on www.alpha-audio.net.
@@TheAlphaAudio what do you prefer among the two amplifiers?
@@myplaguesify Both have strong and weak points. It completely depends on what you are looking for.
@@TheAlphaAudio listened to them using headphone same track they are somewhat the same sounding rather than different
@@myplaguesify They should be "same sounding." Or else one is defective! The Schitt guys published a paper on their own blind testing among amplifiers and how they were shocked at how similar different amplifiers sounded across a wide range of costs and types given careful listening conditions. They loved it and now incorporate blind listening tests in all their gear decisions.
Jeez. Hate to say it but the Yamaha got stomped. It was really evident in the Fugue track.
Well: my opinion is that the Yamaha is better with vocal work... but the Pass with Bryston is more dynamic.
@@TheAlphaAudio Agreed. I guess it's up to the end users to figure out what their actual listening priorities are. For me, musical dynamics outweigh vocals. So I'd pick the bryston and pass. This is coming from a Yamaha owner. Your sound demo really opened my eyes and ears.
Bryson tracks the bass line due to its huge output reserves which works best (better than Yammy) for this particular track. Yamaha feels lighter on its feet though. I wouldn’t say Bryson is more dynamic. I generally find Canadian amps to be somewhat ponderous and deliberate. But they are true to the character of music and have a solid foundation. That’s a true Canadian character. :) But for fast transient music they often flounder. Yamaha feels more agile and lively on vocals and modern electronics music.
@@TheAlphaAudio Thats My same thought …listened thru My Nad heads… back in business …😉
Neither the BRX speaker placement in the room, nor the Microphones relative to the speakers appears to be ideal... in fact far from it (IMO). Too bad for it really would have been nice to hear the BRX's at their best through the Pass Labs / Bryston combo.
We did our best to get the max out of them. What do you suggest we can improve?
@@TheAlphaAudio Don't get me wrong for this definitely doesn't sound bad, however (and I realize to each their own) I prefer them with much more tow in (depending upon room and sitting position of course ) and I never before heard them in any room sounding at their Best when pointed straight out into the room. And then given the Microphone spacing, which is nearly none, I would have thought that the Microphones would have done their best placed at a distance from each speaker = to the distance between the two speakers (from the image, which could be deceiving, it appears that the Microphones are much closer than the distance between each speaker). Or better still, separate the Microphones by some 6 ft and then they need only be placed out from each speaker say 5-6 ft. But then I'm not actually in your room (How I would LOVE to be), so I'm merely suggesting / guessing :)
@@johndaddabbo9383 Our room is relatively 'damped'. So we don't really need a lot of toe-in. The mircrophones are around 1,5 meters from the speakers. Speakers are 2,5m apart (I guess).
Mics are different than our own ears. You don't actually place the mics on the listening position to get a similar experience. I explained that a couple of times in the comment on other video's. On the listening position it sound very far away and way too large. This is much more accurate. Just use some good headphones to get the best out of it. Or download the lossless samples from www.alpha-audio.net.
@@TheAlphaAudio Yes, I'm adequately versed on Mic placement and so Yes I would agree. OK, a ratio of 1,5 to 2,5 isn't so bad (looks much closer in the CZcams vid). Interesting, for I've never heard the BRX (or One.R or Ref) in a room so treated as yours. Although given the amount of treatment, I still cannot imagine the BRX's sounding their best with no tow in... I'm guessing that I simply like a more forward and lively presentation than you all do :) OK great, I'll definitely try out the Lossless samples... that should be real interesting. How I would LOVE to hear your room. It seems to be quite the room!
@@TheAlphaAudio Bowers 805D3 / Focal Sopra No1 / DALI Rubicon 6 - OK, so now you have me really confused... for I just located three other Speaker reviews you did and in all three instances you resorted to a % of toe-in, yet with the BRX's you found them best not toed-in at all..., where as I find that out of all 4 (actually 3) of these speakers that the BRX's sound best with more toe-in than the other 3 (actually other 2 since I haven't heard the DALI's). So again, I find it very interesting that you decided upon zero toe-in for the BRX's. I wonder if - your upstream components are playing into this / are your upstream components a bit different between the two reviews (Yup, apparently the two Systems are quite different, however I have no idea if it is that which is making the difference)? Oh well, I just can't put my head around the BRX's (or any G.E. model for that matter) sounding their best with zero toe-in :)