The GOAT of Every Wrestling Promotion!
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- The GOAT of Every Wrestling Promotion!
When it comes to the world of wrestling, everyone wants to be great. And why not? After all, it’s a highly competitive field and the better you’re considered to be, the more money you’re going to make at the end of the day. That said, for as many greats as there are out there, only one can be considered the GOAT of each individual promotion. And while the reasons for this can vary, with some being great in ring workers, other being better with promos, and others just being more legitimate in the way that they carry themselves, they each stand alone atop the mountain, with no able to touch them. But who are these wrestlers? Well, that’s exactly the question we’re looking to answer today. So, join us today as we cover every major company North America has ever had to offer in Who’s The GOAT?: Every Promotion’s Greatest Wrestler.
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WWWF:
WWF:
WWE:
NWA:
WCW:
ECW:
TNA:
AEW
ROH:
NXT:
WWWF- Bruno Sammartino (The Overall GOAT)
WWF-Stone Cold Steve Austin (What?)
WWE-John Cena (sorry)
NWA- Ric Flair (Woo)
WCW- Sting (ITS STINGGGGGGGGGG)
ECW- Rob VAN DAMN
TNA- The Phenomenal AJ Styles
AEW- MJF (Better than Mox)
ROH- Bryan Danielson (YGGYFHKI)
NXT- Johnny Gargano (you convinced me)
WWWF: Bruno Sammartino
WWF: Stone Cold Steve Austin
WWE: John Cena
NWA: Ric Flair
WCW: Sting
ECW: RVD/Tommy Dreamer
TNA: AJ Styles
AEW: MJF/Jon Moxley
ROH: Samoa Joe/Bryan Danielson
NXT: Adam Cole/Finn Balor
WWWF: Sammartino
WWF: The Rock
WWE: John Cena
NWA: Ric Flair
WCW: Sting
ECW: Rob Van Damn
TNA: AJ Styles
AEW: Chris Jericho
ROH: CM Punk
NXT: Ciampa
WWC: Carlito
@@jaxonjaxoff3291 great pick with MJF. Definitely a future GOAT
I really think that an argument could be made for Sting in TNA as well. He held that promotion together with his grit and guts, especially when AJ was being underutilized.
I love how you separated out WWE, WWF and WWWF and think that it’s entirely fair to do so. The requirements for being a “top guy” were vastly different in 1971 vs 2001 vs 2011.
The older days of wrestling had to have people that actually drew money. In the WWE era, it’s more about who the company chooses
I agree. I like how it was divided up by organization, but you have to look at basically the time period. Do you talk to some older people they're going to talk about Vern Ghana and a lot of others probably from the late '70s and early to mid '80s. But if you will get the mid to late '80s, you can't deny that hulkamania brought wrestling to the forefront. I personally started watching in the mid '90s, and for me it was Sting, Steve Austin, the rock, The undertaker, Hall, Nash, Mick Foley, etc. So it's kind of hard to really name exactly just one person. Like do you look at the overall body of work and longevity? Do you work at the entire influence of the industry? I mean I'm surprised the undertaker wasn't on the list, since he's been going for 30 years before retirement; which is a hard thing to do in the business as injury, addiction, etc take a lot of them out in the late '30s and early '40s
YES. I AGREE. I commented about the Cena shit but that was WWE LMAO. I completely agree with how he had it all seperated.
It's not wwwf it was just wwf
@@Jetup24 It was known as the WWWF until 1979. It then became the WWF until 2002, when it was renamed to WWE.
Sting was without a doubt the face of WCW especially in the heat of the Monday Night Wars with WWF. For 15 months he showed up as The Crow Sting, said nothing, and never wrestled a match yet carried the company the entire way even with the NWO being there. He'll always be one of my all-time favorite wrestlers, no matter the brand.
definitely agree with you on that!
Goldberg was the face of WCW.
@@Jetup24 for 1 year
As problematic as it may be, the face off WCW during the monday night wars was the NWO. The Outsiders taking over was the most compelling reason for viewers to tune in. Don't get me wrong, WCW was brimming with talent, but the plot development was lacking until the NWO came to town. the people really dug the whole foreign takeover. it explains why the majority of the people even cheered for the heel organization (nwo) vs the good company (wcw).
@@pleaseshutup7053 from 1998 til the end it wqsa goldberg. His peak was 1998 though.
One of my all time Austin favourite entrances was when he came down to save the WWF from WCW & ECW during the invasion. The pop was off the scale and JR absolutely losing his shit on commentary still gives me goosebumps to this day.
All 7 stunners made this moment truly legendary
That's literally my favorite wrestling moment lol
It was like Optimus Prime in the 80s transformers movie
Oh he's walking! He's talking! Love when he pulls up in the truck and just start opening cans of whoop ass. Edge getting thrown around backstage is peak wrestling.
@@DavidxBoyd this is so accurate 🤣😭
To me its always the Undertaker, he has the biggest clout WW and the one with the most consistent and remarkable career ever.
Yes, Taker should have been listed as GOAT for WWF/E
As good as Undertaker is he is not the goat he deserves to be in the conversation but he wasnt as over as Stone Cold was in the Attitude era
@@nicholausbell2749 3 years of being over doesn't make you the goat. Sure, he accomplished a lot in a short time, but contrary to this video and popular belief among fanboys, the Rock was more over after 2001.
@@resulnaki No offense, but Austin did more for the WWF/E then The Rock. Not to take anything away from The Rock; he might have been more over, but Austin's success was a major influence on the entire Attitude Era.
@@islandclubtech hogan was a bigger star during the wwf era
Moxley for AEW? I don’t know about that one, Andy. He’s definitely a more worldwide known star, but I really think it’s MJF who deserves that title. Maybe I’m alone in that opinion, but he’s undoubtedly the biggest homegrown star of the promotion
I agree with you mjf is the real goat of AEW
Not Kenny Omega?
@@igortroy kenny is good but I think that mjf is more recognazible ( sorry for my english )
@@igortroy ok
He is the upcoming star of AEW just like how theory is for wwe,you cannot ignore the work jon put throughout to carry aew for some years now
😂😂You always get me when saying "Big Match John"
It always shocks me seeing young AJ Styles in both WCW and TNA
more WCW, imo, his best work is mainly at TNA, he was pretty much the top guy there
@@chrisgaleana6215 no his best work was new Japan and ring of honor
@@shoeplayisbad1I don’t agree. He was already established when he went to those places and he joined an already established faction that he kinda felt out of place in
@@georgelaflare he wasn't really established in ring of honor
He was established when he was in Tna though
This was nice but a couple of promotions should be notably added
AWA: Nick Bochwinkel
CWA & USWA: Jerry "The King" Lawler
WCCW: Kerry Von Eric
NWA (Assosiation): Bill Longson
Myke Newman, Exactly!!!
I was just about to type this. As a native Memphian, who used to wake up every Saturday morning in the 80's to watch the local wrestling, people simply don't realize how big the AWA,, CWA and USWA were during those territory days. I remember Sting's and the Ultimate Warrior's first match in Memphis as part of the AWA when they were called the Freedom Fighters/ Blade Runners and were nothing more than big, buff, and stiff muscle bound freaks with no personalities or in ring skills. Then I remember Hulk Hogan in Memphis as part of the AWA when he was called Terry Boulder and simply not famous at all. I remember the Undertaker as the Master of Pain somewhere during the late 80's in Memphis as part of the CWA and the Rock later being introduced as Flex Kavana in the USWA. All of this to say that despite all of those future legends and potential near GOATs of other promotions coming through the AWA, CWA and USWA in Memphis, Jerry Lawler was easily the GOAT of the CWA and USWA.
You're right about Kerry Von Erich in the WCCW, and to show how big Jerry Lawler was at that time, he defeated Kerry Von Erich in a match which basically brought the WCCW to an end and unified the title.
GCW: Nick Gage
AWA: Nick Bochwinkel
WCCW: David Von Erich
Stampede: Bret Hart
CWA: Jerry Lawler
Pacific Northwest: Roddy Piper
@@AceGoodheartlucha underground pentagon dark AAA blue deamon Jr njpw Jushin ligher
AJ Styles was awesome in TNA I remember watching the December 2nd 2007 episode of TNA impact on Spike TV Live as it aired and I instantly became a fan of his and the Claire Lynch storyline and the Pairing with Ric Flair was Terrible IMO
AJ and samoe joe were great. Still don't get it why samoa joe was in X division though
John Cena is the whom i loved to watch in my childhood days but after i bought dvd casette of Attitude Era I got know Stone cold man that guy is total box office and probably the GOAT of wrestling
Man agree, I was 8 years old when I first saw Austin in 97 on tv, you had to watch it live to see it! Goat!
WWF 1980-1993:Hulk Hogan
WWF 1994-1997:Bret The Hitman Hart
WWF 1998-1999:Stone Cold Steve Austin
WWF 2000-2001:The Rock
WWE 2002-2004:Brock Lesnar
WWE 2005-2019:John Cena
WWE 2020-2022:Roman Reigns
WCW 1997-2000:Sting
AEW 2019-2022:Jon Moxley
TNA 2002-2014:AJ Styles
Solid list, except Austin owned 2001.
From 2007 to 2010 the Undertaker was the top one
Hope to have a next part which includes NJPW, NOAH, AJPW, AAA, CMLL and other independent wrestling promotions (RevPro,PWG, EVOLVE,CZW and other promotions). Maybe you can also include Stardom.
Chikara
Waste of time
I just rewatched the Mankind vs The Rock match. All you hear is the glass shatter and the crowd goes nuts. Stone Cold is the GOAT of GOATS.
I mean the last Wrestlemania against Kevin Owens, that glass shattered and everybody freaked out.
Antonio Inoki says hello.
If his run dident get cut short by the broken neck, then Maybe. But when it comes down to it he was only the "stone cold" of legend for like 4 or 5 years? That shit can't even come close to comparing to the legendary careers of undertaker, Bret hart, Shawn Michael's ect ect.
@@sporkinstien6571 you got the last sentence backwards. Lol
@@sporkinstien6571 Undertaker was never the face of the franchise, due in large part to the other two clowns you mentioned, who just about sunk the whole company because they forgot they were performers.
WWWF era: Sammartino
Golden era: Hogan
New Generation era: Bret Hart
Attitude era: Austin and The Rock
Ruthless Aggression era: Batista and Undertaker
PG era: Cena and CM Punk
Reality era: Brock Lesnar and Roman Reigns
Facts
Ruthless aggression is. Shawn Michaels
Ruthless Aggression is definitely Cena, Batista, Orton, Undertaker. that era had too many stars, but cena is #1.
@@KingJadInfiniteHope You must have missed RA era if you put Cena over Batista and Undertaker.
@@IStevenSeagal that’s my favorite era, i grew up watching it, cena was champion for over a year for a reason. Batista even made an entire fued with cena, over the fact that wwe chose him instead of Batista to be the face of the company. i know what i’m talking about.
Hogan is the WWF GOAT. My personal favourite is Bret Hart, but i concede that Hogan is the biggest reason why it became so huge.
I agree.
It’s cool to hate on hogan now.
This video is 27 minutes too long having not given Hogan his due.
Bill Eadie as AX is my all time favorite, but Hulk Hogan may just very well be the GOAT of all time, universally.
@@derekandkaty4593 - He must hate Hogan.
Casual take
Hard pass on Gargano. He was one of the best but Sami Zayn was 100% the goat of NXT. He was the one who put NXT on the map with his insane matches with Cesaro and as someone who was there in there in the crowd live from 2013-2018. There was never a more feeling of excitement from the crowd once Zayn won the NXT championship for the first time.
in terms of popularity yes sami won but in achievements imma go with gargano and gargano is kinda popular too
I’d was thinking the same, Sami or Finn were the nxt goats
One could’ve said him or Kevin owens.. when KO faced cens it really legitimized NXT
While Sami was popular, Gargano was the goat of NXT from his story with Ciampa to him turning heel to the creation of the Way..Gargano was the man!
Coulda made a solid argument for Seth or Finn too
It’s kinda mind blowing how many genuine contenders there are for Goat of ECW, I could argue like 6 different people, and if RVD ever won the ECW World Title during real ECW I would say 7! I suppose you don’t always need the big title but it certainly helps, so I still say 6!
raven
Agreed.. I didn't have Tommy Dreamer on my list though
@@NateNizzle Tommy dreamer was more of a “heart and soul/glue guy/company guy” but I would have thought Raven or RVD.
I agree w/RVD. Because Andy said whenever TNA had to count on someone to have a good match they looked to AJ,, same with ECW. When Heyman needed a good match he would count on RVD. But I could also throw Raven in there for ECW Goat as well.
“What about Raven?” 🤣
Flair really is a good pick for "greatest in all of NWA" but you could also certainly give each of the old NWA territories. I'd love to see a video on this subject with NWA Mid America, CWA, WCCW, Midsouth, Polynesian Pro, etc.
Nwa it was harley
@@shoeplayisbad1 Not Thesz? Five years straight with the title, plus another 2 years after dropping it to Whipper Watson, then another 2-3 years after Rogers. I'll grant how many reigns Harley had -- and he was terrific, no doubt about it -- but a good argument can be had that Lou's total run (not including the NWAssociation reigns during the 30s and early 40s) puts him into some serious contention.
At the same time, gotta think Rogers, who was a serious serious DRAW, because EVERYBODY wanted to see him get beat....
@@Travlr013 you have a point
I disagree since someone like Jeff hardy who was so famous at the time and took tna wrestling to incredible hights
3:44 Many who grew up during the Attitude Era assume that it was when pro-wrestling peaked in popularity. But the highest Nielsen rating that the Monday Night Wars achieved for a single show was 8.1 when Raw went unopposed, while the highest for Nitro was 6.0, also unopposed. Even if you combine those numbers despite them happening on different dates, they still don't reach the 1st Main Event special's 15.2 in 1988 [33 million viewers] that remains an all-time record for the business to this day. Raw's most-watched segment on TV was Austin vs Taker on 06/28/99, which achieved a 9.5 rating [10.72 million viewers] after Nitro went off the air eight minutes early. Yet the entirety of the 2nd Main Event drew an 11.6, the 3rd w/ 12.8, the 4th w/ 8.6, & the 5th w/ 6.7 in '91. The original 31-episode run of Saturday Night's Main Event also drew bigger show ratings in general [reaching a zenith of 11.6] than either Raw or Smackdown [the latter maxing out at 5.8, merely two decimals above the NWA's 1st Clash of the Champions] during their respective heydays. Those are just some of the reasons why The Golden Era is officially referred to as such.
well its hard to compare the popularity of pro wrestling before and after everyone knowing wrestling is not real...
also ain't those ratings based on how many people are watching tv? very different back then and also those ratings are not considered important anymore with the internet...
@@alanmacdonald1457 It's not hard at all given that you just gave another reason why pro-wrestling was more popular back in the 80s by pointing out that many thought it was real. TV ratings were the main focal point of the Monday Night Wars as Raw & Nitro competed for viewership back when the internet was at its infancy. And nobody considers any time period after the Attitude Era to be another boom for wrestling's popularity.
all i wanted to say was that if you consider pre and post kayfabe as being different things, then the attitude era was the high point. i don't disagree with what you said in general @@jp3813
Lucha Underground goat: Pentagon Jr. (Penta el Zero M)
Hell yeah. Lucha Underground had a great couple of years and Penta was on fire after it.
Shawn Michaels for me for wwe he changed its promotion from wrestling to a sporting entertainment
Jon Moxley being the GOAT of AEW is dead on. The aura he has, his great work and character, and the fact he bust his ass night in and night out is what is needed for a huge star. Probably my favorite wrestler in current era wrestling.
Dude he is overrated. His matches are boring, his promos all sound the same and he bleeds in every match. I am surprised he died of blood loss at this point.
@@zemox2534 Guess you haven't read his memoir or watched any of his NJPW ya mark.
Jon Moxley is the worst wrestler in the world
@@carter3369 How??
MJF
Cena for sure is the GOAT babyface. Merchandise sales, mic work, in ring work, lockeroom respect, 13x world champion, over 650 make a wish visit.
You lost me with the ring work 🤣
Hulk Hogan Main Evented the first 8 consecutive Wrestlemanias .. lol, he single handily brought professional wrestling from local territories to a mainstream national audience...
Definitely not single handily macho man was right there with him. Flair and dusty was huge and wrestling was already known to the main stream. That’s just a lie wwe tells you. Macho man is so well known when people think of what a wrestle is suppose to be the imitate macho man. Your comment is disgraceful
Hogan didn't main event Wrestlemania 4 although he was a peripheral part of it.
@@pleaseshutup7053 lol disgraceful?? It’s factual... without Hogan, wrestling does not boom in the 80s on a national stage .. end of story.. Macho Man did not become a main event guy until Wrestlemania 4.. by that time, Hulkamania was already running wild and selling out arenas across the country.. BROTHER!!!
Hold up. You got played. Remember that a lot of shade was played in building Hogan. Give an example, at WM3 Hogan was the main event with Andre but the crowd waited to talk with Savage and Ricky when the show was over. The fued with Jake Roberts was scrapped because when he did the ddt on Hogan in the snake out the crowd cheered. The jeering of Hogan was hidden for a long time till WcW started showing it prior to the heel turn
@@2682shark You literally just seen this happen with Roman. For 5 years most of us couldn't stand him but Vince pushed it so hard people started cheering him. Who is the goat isn't always determined by the fans at that time.
Like him or not, Cena was one of the hardest working champions ever. He traveled all around the world without missing too many Raw's. Even While filming the Marine, he only missed a cpl of Raw's. He's granted over 650 wishes. Stone Cold & Hogan were in higher demand but John was the guy that really tried to say yes to every appearance request.
Cena deserves respect. Classic storylines with Edge and Randy Orton, Styles, Brock.
Cena is well respected in th Biz and desearvingly so! dude was a workhorse for WWE and was extremely talented cutting promos in and out of the ring.
@Joseph Snider II sounds like ur trying to compare him to Hogan. Can u name 1 wrestler he's accused of buying? Big Show, CM Punk, JBL & Batista have all given him credit for his work ethic. Plz tell me who exactly has talked shit about him besides Kenny Dykstra & Ken Anderson. Orton had more to do with Anderson being fired than Cena & Dyksta buried himself with "the boys" & the fans simply didn't give a damn about him.
Wrestling died around him. It's his fault, and the people booking him, that wrestling is not what it used to be and will never reach those heights again.
Basically.. fark John cena
Everyone worked hard not just cena…. Ppl work harder than cena but Vince only cares about pushing cena.
RVD was the goat. Love Dreamer but RVD most definitely
Post ecw career he definitely was not the goat of the ecw run. He wasn’t even ecw champion
@@pleaseshutup7053 Dreamer didn't even want the world title. He held it for like 10 minutes. RVD elevated the TV title, and was main eventing pay-per-views with the TV title. And an RVD didn't break his leg he probably would have beat Mike Awesome for the world title.
@@hankhenshaw619 if he didn’t break his leg he probably would have been the goat. I would go with sandman as the goat of ecw
Such a casual take lmao
Absolutely
For me , Chris Jericho is one of the GOAT in all wrestling industry and still wrestle in his 50's . Whether is the Painmaker , Demo-God , The Wizard , The Ocho , Le Champion , Lionheart or Y2J , he still make himself relevant throughout his wrestling career by reinventing his gimmick. Whether he is a heel or babyface, Chris Jericho is among the greatest wrestler of all time. Plus , he also a rockstar.
Agree!
Lol please
@@DERRTYCHYBO yes
Undeniably. Flair is the only competition to Jericho in this, and even his achievements fall flat to those of Jericho. Jericho by miles. People disagreeing are just haters who's favorite wrestler put Jericho over and they are salty about it, every fucking one of them.
👍
We lost so many legends of the ring but Nature Boy Ric Flair loves it so much he literally can’t stay away
One of my top 5
Woooooooooo
Flair should have retired 20 years ago, he did nothing good for the business but show it up since the 2000s
I thought Ric was cutting a passionate promo when he said one time that he wants to die in the ring. Now, I'm not so sure he wasn't being completely serious.
To be the man you have to beat the man and all I'm saying is champaign and cocaine are clearly not the man
Rock and Stone cold kind of share the mantle for the attitude era imo
Yes very true especially if you started watching in 1999 or remember more of 1999. That’s how I was. Watched 1997 and 98 but remember 99 and so on much more.
Nick Bockwinkel is the goat of the AWA. the Ric Flair of the AWA. the most underrated wrestler ever.
Kinda surprised the AWA wasn't mentioned.
@@kevinpayton2664 i know considering at one point it was the number 1 promotion in North America
@@markjackson6431 Yep
Internet smarks often aren’t very knowledgeable about AWA. They repeat and parrot certain common narratives, and they generally revolve around companies other than the AWA. As in, it’s WWE, WCW, some surface level Crockett, ECW, and AEW. No AWA, no Florida, Memphis, Mid South…
during that time, hogan was becoming more popular, but verne gagne repressed him & denied him the title twice against bockwinkel. and this is where vince jr capitalised on hulkamania.
So AWA no mention Nick Bokwinkel was a phenomenal wrestler and no mention
tremendous oversight
@@3tp indeed, he and Heenan were great together
The GOAT of ECW is Rob Van Dam, but my favorite was Sabu ☝️!
Such a casual take lmao
@@dylanmulroe9978 Yeah, except I was actually watching 90’s ECW live and you only watched 90’s ECW on CZcams, but you watched WWE’s ECW live…..so congratulations to you and your other fellow fake ECW fans.
🤫🤫🤫 Lol
WWF/E: The Rock
WCW: Sting
ECW: Rob Van Damn
WWC: Carlito
Impact: AJ Styles
ROH: CM Punk
AEW: Chris Jericho
At least those are my goats
CM punk?? Bryan danielson is the GOAT od ROH.
@@ronaldogoat1924 MY GOATS.. Daniel is YOUR goat. But you see how MY is mine?
Same
Undertaker over the Rock any day
I like separating WWE and WWF, having said that I couldn't disagree with the goat of WWF more. I know Austin was the top guy of the attitude era, but his run was short (due to various injuries) and interrupted by the emergence of the Rock. Hulk Hogan almost single-handedly created the modern wrestling industry. Vince wanted to go national and goble up all the regional promotions, but he needed a star to promote and he found it in Hulk Hogan; the WWE would not exist as it does today without Hulk Hogan. In other words, there would not have been a Cena, Rock, DX, or Stone Cold if not for Hulk Hogan.
Austin was a product of what was already laid by DX. His time was short and was with the times AND came with the Monday night wars which gave more attention to wrestling in general . Hogan literally carried all of wrestling for a decade. The goat for wwf is easily hogan
And there would not have been a Hulk Hogan if Bruno hadn't carried wwwf for a decade. Different names and geographical market, but still the same company. They have to split the McMahon family promotion into eras or you get into that cyclical thinking. Hogan carried the golden era. He was at wcw for the attitude era.
Stone cold this year sold the most merchandise of any wrestler now that tells you something. Stone cold is a Texas boy and as a Texas boy myself cant be more proud to share that similarity with him
For me it’s Undertaker for wwe
nxt-asuka
ecw-RVD or taz
1:12 The GOAT of WWE
3:31 The GOAT of WWF
6:34 The GOAT of WWWF
9:24 The GOAT of NWA
12:00 The GOAT of TNA
14:27 The GOAT of NXT
17:08 The GOAT of AEW
19:30 The GOAT of WCW
21:52 The GOAT of ECW
24:32 The GOAT of ROH
Rick Flair! The kiss stealing, wheeling dealing, limousine riding, Jet flying, son of a gun! WOOO! I love Rick Flair
My 🐐 will forever be John Cena he’s the reason I became a huge wrestling fan & then went back & watched the attitude era & every other era & became big fans of people like Rock & Austin & became a true wrestling fanatic because Cena always had me hooked in any rivalry he was in as a kid & nowadays you see just how truly goated Cena is when people who couldn’t stand him missed him so much during the MITB return plus on top of that he’s had so many 5 star classics is one of the greatest promo guys ever if not the greatest & has over 600 plus make a wishes & sold his merch like crazy like he’s the complete package of as perfect a wrestler could be in my opinion & he’ll always be my personal Greatest Of All Time.
Gay
hahah damn
HBK is the overall GOAT. Ring work, charisma, good promos, innovation in the ring and in promos, memorable feud and legendary matches.
Mmhmm nope, No.
Shawn was excellent but he had too many vacated title runs
Nah
HBK was popular but was not the greatest. He had too many flaws due to his Klick issues. He lie Hogan spent too much time cheating the system in the locker room to really be the greatest. He was great in the ring and on the mic but as I said he cheated the system too much.
We need the next year in review, WCW storyline & NWA storyline ‼️‼️‼️ Appreciate tf out the time u put into this i don’t watch wrestling anymore but i love your content
Love the channel but the info on stings crow turn was September/October 1996 and he dropped from the rafters March of 1997 at Uncensored.
Just discovered you today. Outside of wrestling bios this is the best one I came across. Ima go through all the videos. But WCW 1995 to 98 was amazing
I'm pretty sure it was the triple threat between Joe, Styles, and Daniel's at unbreakable that is widely considered TNAs best match. The match u listed was the rematch and was also amazing but not the one u fondly remembered
You're correct. The match from 2005 is the better of the two.
@@goryj2248 thanks. I was starting to wonder if I was remembering wrong, but I stuck to my memory and commented it anyone. This is the first mistake I ever seen him make tho. I guess he's just not that into TNA in its glory days.
Agreed
I mostly agree with this video except for the ECW part. Most old-school ECW fans like myself never considered Dreamer as the "GOAT" of ECW. We respected him, but not held him to such high regards.
Personally, I can't pick who can be defined as G.O.A.T., but Rob Van Dam is definitely on top of that list. Shane Douglas was a close one, as he literally was the Franchise of the promotion from early, mid, and late 90s. Taz is a solid contender. Since you said Mox was GOAT for AEW even though there are wrestlers who outclassed him on technical skills, I'll say Sandman is another worthy one.
Sandman, RVD, Franchise, Taz, even Raven. But not Dreamer, with all due respect.
RVD should have been GOAT for ECW honestly. I know Dreamer was like heartbeat of the company, but RVD was the whole f'n show and brought a level of quality that few others in ECW could bring.
RVD is most definitely the 🐐 of ECW only part of the vid that lost me
If we're looking mostly at crowd interaction and reactions/pops I think it's hard to put someone over sandman
its taken me a while to believe but this is such a great channel 🔥
The GOAT in wrestling is the one who drew the most money. That’s Stone Cold or Hulk Hogan.
Sting is definitely the face of WCW but I would say Goldberg is a close second. That guy had some crazy pops for sure by 1998.
Yes very true! I think Sting just has longevity on him and longer period on top. Similar to comparing Hogan Vs Stone Cold for WWF goat because both Stone Cold and Goldberg popularity felt overall louder in there short runs on top.
@@midsectionmark8956 Very true!
When it comes to WWE, I personally think Stone Cold is the GOAT. Biggest draw of all time, got the loudest pops, has the two most iconic feuds with Vince and The Rock that many people consider is the best rival of all time, the main reason WWF survived the Monday Night Wars, still gets loud pops despite not making a lot of WWE appearances, and he did a lot in such a short span of his WWE career.
Edit: I didn't realize you were separating WWF and WWE, haha. WWF: Stone Cold, WWE: John Cena
I still say Stone Cold is the GOAT though.
It’s Hogan or Cena for me. Stone Cold run was just too short.
@@moereese34 That's fair, man. I respect that.
Antonio Inoki was probably bigger than all of the ones talked about added together..
@@moereese34 Hogan was on top for longer, but Austin got to a slightly higher peak. It’s a close call no matter who you go with.
@@fingersTitan And Rikidozan was probably bigger than Inoki at one point.
bro it's unbelievable how hard Ciampa and Gargano carried nxt for YEARS - this feud is the highlight of my era
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They all are…Cena will always have a soft spot in my heart, he made me want to watch wrestling!
Cena was the last best wrestler for promos
Gay
@@pleaseshutup7053 I’m a girl & he’s cute🤷♀️
@@bigstillow91 ok? He was enthusiastic and good looking…
@@MsTinkerbelle87 That’s why you like him so nothing to do with his wrestling makes sense.
Love your videos brings back so many memories from my childhood I remember being so stoked to watch pro wrestling weekly ❤
Where do you watch old wrestling shows at??
I was hoping to see the AWA, MLW, WCCW on the list......
I was hoping to see Memphis on the list.
@@kevinpayton2664 Well we know who Memphis would be. None other than Jerry 'The King' Lawler.
@@AceGoodheart True
Stone Cold over Hogan is pretty wild. There was a point in time where Hulk Hogan was right there with Michael Jackson for most recognizable entertainer in the world. That dude was everywhere. You wanna split the 'WWF' into eras, fine, but having lived through them both, I'm going Hogan all day every day.
I was waiting for this comment like Hulk Hogan made wrestling what it is today wasn’t for him WWE probably wouldn’t have made it to Hollywood status
Hogan was forced down everyone’s throat when wrestling was undergoing a national expansion. Stone cold developed organically when WWE was almost bankrupt. Stone cold greater then Hogan and it’s not even a question.
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"2002 " uhmm 2022 in the Samoa Joe part
GOAT of...
NWA: Ric Flair
WWWF: Bruno Sammartino
WWF: Hulk Hogan (80s) Steve Austin (90s)
WCW: Sting
ECW: Tommy Dreamer
TNA: AJ Styles
ROH: Samoa Joe
WWE: John Cena
NXT: Johnny Gargano (Johnny Wrestling)
AEW: Jon Moxley
For me the GOAT of every promotion has got to be Hulk Hogan, there is not a single person in the world who doesn't know who he is, he is not only a household name but is a mainstream icon who transcends pop culture history, even people who don't watch wrestling know who he is. I'll admit there are lots of guys like Ric Flair and Stone Cold who are all true legends in their own right but from a historical perspective, i definitely would go with Hulk Hogan as he helped put the wrestling business on the map.
Hulk Hogan himself said he opened the door , but the rock blew it off.
@@bobbybravo123 Hogan said that about Hollywood movies
Austin was a greater star.
@@bootydaddy555 hulk lasted longer then austin
@@DTVisDISNEY1984 doesn't mean anything. Austin drew more money than Hogan. And Austin is more beloved. Hogan even in his peak had fans who hated him. Austin is still loved till this day.
You forgot about the American Wrestling Association or AWA. I'd have to say that its GOAT would have to be Nick Bockwinkel; he could wrestle one-on-one or in tag teams, fighting technicians, brutes, giants or brawlers with equal ease. Simply the fact that he could still wrestle, not to mention win the AWA title, so late in life showed how smart an athlete that he was. Most imp, he always presented himself with an air of dignity and self-respect, doing promos in a soft, cultured voice when do many others yelled and carried on. Even when being a dirty, cheating heel, Bockwinkel exuded only class.
AWF - American Wrestling Federation
Goat:
Tito Santana
Sorry but personally I feel like the term GOAT should have more factors than who was the best draw. Sure it is important, but so is in-ring athleticism, gimmick presentation, and mic skills and many share these traits. However since GOAT is mostly just opinion sorry but it's true. I will list in my own personal opinion, which wrestlers fit the best into each category. This will only be WWF since I never really watched any other promotion, I'd occasionally change the channel to WCW but it was rare.
GOAT draw -Stone Cold Steve Austin
GOAT in-ring performer-Shawn Michaels
GOAT gimmick-The Undertaker
GOAT mic skills- The Rock
But like I said it's all opinionated.
Name: sting
Finisher: scorpion death lock
Animal character based on: crow
Animal brought to ringside: vulture
Sounds like a goat to me
Stone Cold’s greatest rival was Vince McMahon, not The Rock.
The GOATis easily the undertaker of all of pro wrestling. He spanned all those eras! And still killed it
That doesn't make him the G.O.A.T. He is kinda overrated.
@@bootydaddy555 sorry, this is my favorite wrestler of all my time on earth! I'm sure that was the question!
@@bootydaddy555 he definitely wasnt overrated. If anything I think he should have been given a few more title pushes but I remember Vince saying his character was so strong and legendary that he didn't need a title
@danielmccaughey2861 When I say overrated. I mean overrated in the eyes of some fans. Fans who put him in the Mount Rushmore conversation, which he has no business being in. There were more important, more impactful stars in the history of that company. They just didn't have the longevity of Undertaker.
Stone cold ... He did something no other wrestler ever could and that was grow the audience by the percentage he did.
Man, that’s a hard one. It would be between Austin, The Rock, and Sting.
Dusty Rhodes, Macho Man, and Antonio Inoki could also be on that list also.
New guys who could be on that list in the future would be MJF, Darby Allen, Sammy Zane/Uso, Seth Rollins, and Kevin Owens.
Wwf - Bruno
Nwa - flair
Wcw - sting
Ecw - Shane Douglas
Tna - AJ
Roh - Brian Danielson
Aew - omega
njpw - okata
AAA - Konan
Just my opinion. I'm also talking about having good matches and drawing money.
Love or Hate the guy, it's undeniable that Hulk Hogan is the GOAT of wrestling. He was able to do something the others on this list couldn't do. He was the driving force back during the Hulkamania period which took the entire wrestling business to new heights unseen before him. During the Attitude Era over on the WCW side, he helped establish the historic nWo completely turning the wrestling world upside down. His heel turn was so impactful it literally sent shockwaves through the industry. The All-American Wrestling superhero is a bad guy???? No other wrestler could have pulled that off. If Hogan didn't join nWo it would have flopped. The nWo along with Hogan ushered in the ERA of rooting for the bad guys. Austin nor The Rock could pull this off when they tried to go "HEEL" again with zero impact on the business. Both did well but nowhere near the star power and level Hogan was able to attain when he did it in 1996. Hogan literally changed the wrestling status quo TWICE!! in his career, no other wrestler can make that claim. From Hulk Hogan to Hollywood Hogan, he was able to reinvent himself and change the landscape of wrestling. Then on top of all this WWE rehired him to come back as a HEEL to face The Rock in which he was so over with the fans that the WWE had to change their plans and made him babyface LOL. Also for those who think he [HOGAN[ can't wrestle I would advise you to go watch his earlier career before the WWF, especially his time in NJPW you'd be surprised. Again you don't have to like the man for whatever reason but this is something I don't hear a lot of people talk about or take into consideration. SCSA would have to be a very close #2 in my book but overall given these reasons Hulk Hogan would have to be the GOAT of wrestling his resume and impact on the culture clearly speaks for itself though a lot of people will overlook it.
exactly hogan made wrestling what it is today
This was so perfectly said. I can't tell you how many times I said exactly this to people who try to downplay Hogan.
true that. the hulkster was big in awa, wwf/e, njpw & wcw. how many wrestlers were that big in as many promotions? the dude became bigger than the entire industry. i suppose we've got sylvester stallone to thank for that. btw, it's mostly millennial fans who don't remember the '80s who overlook & trash the hulkster.
plus even in the 80's and 90s when he went to Japan, we would wrestle hard and very well as he was still a good wrestler. His WWF matches at that time were more show with some wrestling and the wwf wanted it that way. he is no Chris Benoit but the man is an underrated wrestler.
You should do "The GOAT Of Every Year Since Wrestling Started"
WWWF: Bruno Sammartino
WWF: Steve Austin
WWE: John Cena
NWA: Ric Flair
WCW: Sting
AWA: Nick Bockwinkel
TNA: AJ Styles
ROH: Samoa Joe
AEW: Jon Moxley
I'm not gonna disagree with this because I think it's perfect but I am gonna give a one alternative for each promotion in alphabetical order.
AEW: Adam Page
ECW: Rob Van Dam
NXT: Adam Cole
NWA: Harley Race
ROH: Jay Lethal
TNA: Samoa Joe
WCW: Diamond Dallas Page
WWE: Randy Orton
WWF: The Rock
WWWF: Buddy Rodgers
i literally burst out laughing when he said jon moxley is a modern day stone cold, to think they are even close is hysterical. the average person on the street would know who stone cold is no one outside wrestling marks know who jon moxley is.
Jon Moxley is so untalented yet so over with these smart marks he looks like a drunk the average guy at the gym can kick his ass Stone Cold looked like a bad MF
Yeah that was some mark shit
Personally I believe Cody Rhodes would have been the goat of aew if you didn't jump ship this year and I like what Jon Moxley has done in aew so far
You can’t be the goat if you never the world champion and Cody never would have been
WWWF - Bruno Sammartino
WWF - Hulk Hogan
WWE - Undertaker
NWA/WCW - Ric Flair
The rest were major contributors to the particular eras, but these four were really the Mt Rushmore of pro wrestling in their particular eras/companies. The only other one that stands out is Andre the Giant. The GOAT of GOATs.
I think there is NWA, early 1990's WCW, and late 1990's WCW. For me, it's Ric Flair, Sting, Sting.
You can't put SCSA above Terry Boulder. WWF was built on Hulk Hogan's back, and the whole reason the Attitude Era happened was because every babyface the WWF tried in Hogan's wake failed spectacularly, and once Hogan's NWO made it cool to cheer for the bad guys, then and only then could Austin 3:16 even be a thing.
That’s actually an interesting point.
@@StraightEdgeJunkie except.it isn't
Except that is complete horse sheet. Austin won king of the ring and uttered his famous "Austin 3:16 says I just whupped your ass" June 23rd 1996. The Nwo wasnt formed until July 7th 1996. Austin made himself cool enough to cheer as a bad guy, has piss all to do with fricking Hulk Hogan.
Nice try though
Lol no. Bret Hart, the Undertaker and HBK "failed spectacularly"? Hogan fanboys are the absolute worst
@@brianl2483 83 weeks, bro. Bret Hart and HBK made WWF basically unwatchable for years with their little ego battle playing out on camera. I love how the pink tight army thinks that it's just a coincidence that the WWF came back to prominence after Montreal 97 (and HBK's back injury).
Sorry buddy. Neither one of those guys were main event players, and they both knew it, which is why they were so chronically insecure that they couldn't even work with each other by the end. What pros.
As for Undertaker, he should have been the monster heel who held the belt for basically that whole time. But the WWF was so obsessed with recreating Hulkamania they didn't see the landscape shifting until the NWO came along. Maybe Taker should have been more insistent that he wear the belt backstage, I don't know. I do know that he wasn't the star the WWF needed at the time, and the company almost went belly up during his prime.
I'm a huge Austin fan. I think Austin is the goat of Raw. But the goat of the entire wrestling industry is hulk hogan. That man stayed on top in every promotion he went into.
When you say Rick Flair you must follow with “Wooooo”
I'm in my late 30s, love horror and metal. And I still love neon surfer Sting over his darker incarnation all day long. Andhe's STILL the man
The GOAT is Stone Cold Steve Austin. Out of everybody who you could argue is the GOAT, Austin had the least time on top and set records that are still held today.
STONECOLD is GOAT OF GOATS!
Man I miss that era of ROH so much. Best period of wrestling since 2000. ROH was absolutely killing it giving us MOTY contenders on every show.
Listen to the fan reaction for Hulk Hogan in his Hall Of Fame Induction and then get back to me about who's the G.O.A.T. in the WWF! Love him or hate him, he's the greatest ever.
He definitely built the sport and made it house hold, but he was an average wrestler and been surpassed. Hogan made vince a millionaire, austin made him a billionaire. Austin is the GOAT, but no hogan, no austin.
Both should equally be respected with WWE
@@manbearpig3231 Hogan was the face of wrestling when Austin was " Stunning Steve Austin" , " The Ring Master" and whatever iteration you want to think of. Arguably the best Babyface and arguably the best Heal as Hollywood Hogan. Hogan turning heal and joining the NWO set the wrestling world on fire! Saying Austin made him billions is like saying a basketball player in this era is greater than MJ just because they're pulling in more revenue for the NBA than what MJ did in his career.
Now do The GOAT of Every Non-US Wrestling Pomotion.
the goat will always be the undertaker for me. 30 years and people NEVER got tired of it. His in ring work is extremely underrated and is extremely good at selling the character with his in ring work, he has one of the most versatile movesets ive ever seen, and has had classic on classic on classic, there was a point in time where every wrestlemania match he had for about an 8-10 year stretch was an absolute showstealer, stone cold was the top guy for 3 years, undertaker has been there for 30. In terms of character, again his mic work is extremely, extremely underrated, he really sells the character well, just watch the "i will walk through the fires of hell to face you kane" promo. His american badass character gave him even more room on the mic. Yes there are better in ring workers (bret, shawn, kurt angle, etc) but to even consider anyone else as being the goat MAYBE other than john cena is just silly to me. He was the backbone of almost all eras in the wwe.
WWWF: Bruno Sammartino
WWF: Hulk Hogan
WWE: Undertaker
NWA: Dusty Rhodes
WCW: Ric Flair
ECW: Rob Van Dam
TNA: Kurt Angle
AEW: Kenny Omega
ROH: Bryan Danielson
NXT: Sami Zayn
Of course it's Hogan for WWF, think you're showing your youth (LOL) by picking Austin. Hogan was so big he got called to make movies, Austin I think he made a couple (maybe) but Hogan became well known to all non fans. He was a long time leader for Make A Wish as well. And he revolutionized wrestling to what it is today. Despite him sucking at it himself. He influenced almost all the big time wrestlers (from the attitude era) to be who they were. All those reasons have to count towards it.
Literally any famous wrestler back then and today can enter the movie business anytime they want to. Stupid argument. Stone Cold had as much of a fanbase outside of wrestling as Hogan did if not moreso. He also had a much bigger impact on the WWE than Hogan did. In what way do you think Hogan “influenced” the big time wrestlers from the attitude era lmao? Hogan was a cartoon character, the attitude era was the complete opposite.
Like him or not Hogan did help with the national expansion of professional wrestling, unfortunately it cost us the territories that helped create more superstars... Hears an interesting one who's the GOAT of the AWA? They were around a while,Bockwinkel? Gagne?
Austin was a greater star.
Imma have to give WWF to Hogan
💪🏽hulkamania, brotherrr!
Sting WCW. Stone Cold Steve Austin WWF.
For an overall career across every promotion they’ve been to, Chris Jericho has really made a valid argument for top overall performer for his between in ring and on the mic skills.
No matter how over someone is, Jericho could cut them down on the mic
Just watched a match with a dude named Zack saber jr, he had 3 belts on him don’t know who he is and that my fault but would be dope if you would do a video on him
yep one of the best gaijin wrestler in njpw right now along with will ospreay... njpw have a great roster and factions its hard for me to pick a favorite
He's been on fire for a half decade and had a match with Claudio Castagnoli(who you may know as Cesaro) at Forbidden Door.
NJPW GOAT: Either Tanahashi or Okada
Austin's pop when his music hit was something special even watching it you get a little amped
This is good shit, pal!
Appreciate the support man 👊🏻🤟🏻💪🏻🤘🏻
Hogan is the most important performer in wrestling history. Not Flair, not Austin, not Rock, etc. Love him or hate him, in or out the ring, spend even five minutes understanding the significance of Hogan’s legacy on wrestling and the picture will be clear. Hulkamania ran wild and become a household name unlike anyone ever in sports entertainment. Whether it was taking the WWF to new heights or carrying the WCW on his back with NWO, Hogan is the GOAT.
This. Without him all the later stars wouldn't have been for numerous reasons
Agree completely. Not a huge fan either but you’re speaking facts.
bUt wHaT aBoUt hIs WoRkRaTe tho???
Meh you can make that claim for other wrestlers too id you go back far enough. If wwwf goes out of business, no wwf for Vince Jr to buy and no hulkamania
@Trent Walker no wrestlers were ever bigger than wrestling itself and the mcmahons are very relevant hence why they are constantly mentioned in the video. Nobody denys that Hogan was the first true megastar either. But your entire premise is that without hogan, nobody else would have a career means he is a bigger star that Austin is a faulty premise. Being a pioneer doesnt make you the bigger star. One has nothing to do with the other. And no Hogan didnt carry wcw on his back, hogans popularity was in the toilet before scott hall and kevin nash showed up. Without them to form the nwo, wcw and hogan weren't doing jack and sh*t
Thanks for the new video, Andy 🤩🔥
Looking forward to this same list for international companies.
Bret Hart!!!