5 Horse Breeds I Would NEVER Get
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As an Arab owner over the years, I would suggest not buying the "Barbie Doll" types ie the finely built, exaggerated dished face. Rather look for the older more solid types eg Crabbets ( English riding type) that were built to work all day or could handle 100mile rides. These horses are gentle souls, highly intelligent and hardy with excellent feet.
Those were the kind I had for 20 years then I transitioned to Connemara ponies in my older years as I didn't "bounce" up from the ground after becoming unhorsed as I had in my earlier, younger, years.😆
Yes definitely, Crabbet lines are the best. My lovely part bred's sire was a crabbet arabian.
My heart horse was a crabbet Arab mare. Bought her when she was 2 yo Had her for 27 years. My next one was a chestnut tb mare off the track. I had her for 30 years.@@alycewich4472
What was done to the Arab breed is so horrible. Imagine taking a "desert horse" ment to work and run in a warm dry climate and turn them into a doll, barely able to breath.... humans sometimes suck.
I'd agree with this as a former Arab owner. My two boys were all from Polish lines and were solid horses. But any time we went to Arabian shows we'd see more and more horses with those exaggerated dished faces and it just broke my heart. Those horses were useless for anything but standing and looking 'pretty' and they always seemed to be antsy due to it. Those exaggerated dished face types are like the pugs of the horse world now. They took a perfectly functional horse breed with good lung capacity and just deformed them more and more for the sake of a 'look'. Much like what happened over a decade ago with Quarterhorses where breeders intentionally spread a genetic disorder to get more 'muscular' looking horses.
Honestly I'm of the opinion the AHA needs to step in and ban the cosmetic breeding practices that are causing this problem. It's gotten way past the point of acceptability.
Edit: And just to be clear because people get weird every time this topic comes up. The normal 'dished face' Arabians have is not the problem. The problem is how halter breeders are essentially exaggerating that dish beyond what can be considered healthy.
All I can say about having an Arabian is: Get ready for a dog in the body of a 800lb animal that brings you sticks to play and constantly invents new tricks to be praised, but turns into a full-grown dragon the second they feel treated unfair.
Never treat an Arabian unfair.
Yes, my Arabian got very upset and jealous when I was forced to give her up to my little sister to take on the new horse that came when her sister died. My sister wasn’t as experienced of a rider as I was, and the new horse needed me to ride him. Marra Kesh (her name) never forgave me and would nip at me and act sad. I still feel badly for hurting her feelings. It wasn’t intentional and I still loved her. I just couldn’t let my little sister ride the much younger, lesser trained, more dangerous horse.😢
I agree. Your Arabian will want to literally live in your house. True, never abuse them, they might try to kill you.
My horse is only Arabian to a very tiny part (they estimated her to 15% for Arabian tournaments, she'd be allowed to participate), but ... damn, that is so accurate.
They also get into everything and open gates with ease. I had Arabs for years and I loved them. I have a three quarter Arab pinto and a paint quarter. The 3/4 is alot easier.
I ended up with Arabians and exactly-don’t be unfair. They keep you honest. You earn them but once you do they will do their best.
Lol my first horse was a green rescue thoroughbred she never raced though she was just starved and neglected at a riding school, and no one wanted to ride her because she never had energy to move and she was litterly bones, she looked like she would just drop dead. But when she put in weight all she wanted to do was run around and buck her little green rider off. But getting a thoroughbred for my first horse ESPECIALLY a green thoroughbred has taught me so much and our bond is stronger than ever because we have literally learned everything together. If i could go back and time to get the quietest prettiest most well trained horse in the world for free or get my little rescue for 1000$ i would choose her any day ❤️ she is my heart horse
❤️❤️❤️So sweet!!
My first horse, was an auction rescue Off the track Thoroughbred, who was in really awful condition when first purchased. The BEST BOY for me. I wouldn’t have changed a thing. My angel, my heart, and my best teacher.💕 I owe him ALL.
@@karabnp87 thats so cute ❤️ i love story like that. Happy you too are doing well
might be a cute story but it’s insanely unfair to the horse. a green rider should never ride a green horse, the clues and overall poor riding are setting the horse up for failure. this magical wendy dream won’t come true, not for the horse at least.
@@Eeee-xl4xb she was a lesson horse so she was used to bad riding lol, and when she did put on weight and become green after her life of a neglected lesson horse i got alot of help, and she is doing well now neither of us are green anymore and i had a huge community helping me. Also no one else wanted her and she wouldn't have survived another year at the rate she was going so it was either green rider + green horse, or just let her die. Also you dont really know anything about what happened with us so you wouldn't really know if it was a bad match. She can be ridden by beginners and is overall super quiet now, i didn't ride for 2 months while she was sore recently and when i hoped back on she was immediately perfect again so that "Wendy dream" did happen.
My first horse (at age 55) is a Morgan. Shes only 14.2 hands,but I’m short too. She was 2 months pregnant when i got her, and had a beautiful filly 9 months later. We still have her and she is 26 and the “filly” is 13. Best money i ever spent.
I have owned a couple of great Morgan horses. Stout, strong, and hard workers.
I bet. N getting to watch her goal n to grow up.
Hey same! My first horse was a Morgan as well, I was only 9 and she was 14.3 hands so yk it was a good match 😂
My first horse was a two year old,cream colored, blue eyed mongrel. At 14.2 , she was a horse when I showed her Western and a pony when I showed her English. We regularly whupped some purebred butt 😂 🏆
I ❤ Morgan’s my fav horse breed
At 15 I purchased a 2year old mustang. My dad helped me train him. Best horse ever. Did everything even went to college with me. Lived til 32. Definitely taught me alot.
My first horse in my 20's was a mustang also. I worked to gentle him extensively then had an old cowboy train him. He turned out to be such a wonderful horse. In my late 50's I got another mustang so I could do more of the training myself. Very different personalities, but both were really great horses. Taught me a lot too.
This makes me so happy as I am getting my first mustang in about a month at 15!! I have an amazing trainer and mom to help me :)
I always owned quarter horses growing up and everyone in my world always told me they’d “never own a mustang” but I got one from a rescue in 2020 and he’s my entire world. He’s the best, most willing horse I’ve ever owned and he has the best personality I’ve ever seen. He’s solid mentally, confirmation is great, and great under saddle- yes he was a lot of work but holy cow has he been worth every second. But agree with the video- not an easy first time horse!
No I wont buy any of those. They wouldn’t fit in my council flat anyway.
When it comes to Arabian horses the thing to remember is that you cannot conquer an Arabian ,they will fight you to the death. Make friends with your Arabian and they will truly be your best friend. The first horse I ever owned was an Anglo Arab mare that was raised by a woman and trained by a woman. Every experience she had ever had with a man had been terrible no man could do anything with her. I bought her to keep her from the kill pen. I then spent 2 months making friends with her. I brushed her every day and put my hands all through her food ETC. when it came time for our first trail ride all the guys were watching with big grins waiting for me to get dumped, but I just mounted and away we rode. When they started asking how did you break her when none of us could, simple I just made friends with her you can't conquer an Arabian.
The same is true of Wild Mustangs. They have not been selectively bred for temperment and have actual life experience making their own choices. Breaking them is a bad idea because just like mules they will get even the second they think they can get away with it.
lol yes as it has been said, they will make you look like a zero or a hero
My horse is a anglo Arabian lol
This is very true. Only horse that has decided to try to kill me was an Arabian, not sure what I did, but she decided she did not like me. I just had to let her be handled by other people.
The first thing that irritated me with your message is that you can't conquer with an Arabian and that they will fight with you to the death.
This is the biggest mistake non-Arabian ppl make. You don't conquer an Arabian or any other breed. But specifically the Arabian. The Arabian is a one person horse.
You're a team. It's not a dog, they don't need a boss, they need a partner for life.
Also the Arabian is a very sensitive breed which means, if you are a hyper person, so will your Arabian.
The Arabian is the best horse you can have or the worst ever, but that all depends on your personality and behavior...
The Arabian is the most loyal breed ever, but only in the right hands...
Farrier here, great info on draft horses and miniature horses and laminitis! I just want to add that if a horse gets laminitis, you want to stop the inflammation as soon as possible, as they start foundering after just a few days at most. What happens is that the lamellae at the front of the hoof expand so the entire hoof gets pulled forward and cuts of blood flow to the front, so the lamellae go into necrosis, they die, which makes them let go of the coffin bone. So founder is not fixable, since you can't revive necrotic tissue, but if it's stopped quickly you can limit the damage. So if your horse is standing weird, doesn't want to turn normally or walk at all and the hooves are warm, get the vet out immediately to put it on anti-inflammatories.
Yes, excellent advice. That happened to a Morgan I owned years ago. Quick action, Bute, and Soft Ride boots that my Vet highly recommended. They were pricey, but the intense relief she had when they were on was so worth it.
I've owned Arabians for over 30 years. I've never had one that was 'crazy' They just don't hide who they are. They tell you outright. My current Arabian tells you when he's mad. He stomps his left foreleg. It's not flies. He only does it when he's mad.
I'd rather have a horse that isn't quiet about their personality than a seemingly quiet personality that blows up out of nowhere.
Well said! I want them to be able to tell me exactly what they're thinking. Which is why I've ended up with so much personality in my paddocks lol, with a Morgan, an Anglo Arab and a Welsh cross...!
When my Arabian was passed he would stomp his hind legs like a kid having a tantrum. If he wanted to go faster an it was not possible he would trot and stamp at the same time. But every year for 8 years I did pony rides for my friends kids bday party. He would let 20 kids ride and pet him. He never shied or stomped or bit or kicked.. Smarter than me myhorse. And I knew it.(so did he)
3.5 years ago I bought a 10 year old Percheron , former broodmare. My second horse.
They DO eat a bit more hay, but need no additional feed.
First thing I taught her was to lift her legs, it took 1 week.
The farrier is a bit more than normal horses, because they use a bit thicker shoe (12mm instead of 8mm)
When I got her she was unridden. She learned basic dressage techniques in a month. She has successfully done dressage competitions ! A fantastic experience!
Maybe not your first horse but definitely as a second horse
Sweet!
Percherons are the BEST!
I love riding "cold bloods", my favourite trail buddy is a Percheron cross, his head is gorgeous. The only downside is that after few hours in saddle you get off... bowlegged 😂
@@margodphd LOL fair, is coldbloods everything by warmbloods? The bowlegged part got me laughing so hard XD
I have worked with an Irish draught horse who had lots of trouble getting his feet done. He was so bad that when the farrier would come out he would assume the horse would not allow him to do his feet at all. But within just a few sessions I was able to get him to stand patiently for the farrier, and I'd never worked with a draft horse before. The biggest thing was letting him walk around in between feet so he could stretch. His legs would get really stiff holding it up in the air for minutes at a time, so just letting him walk helped him stand for longer. I also used positive reinforcement to encourage him to put in effort, but I really think the walking helped the most
Omg i love irish draught. Gorgeous horses. I once worked with an irish draght mare we named ice. She was a dapple grey and white with long white mane and tail. So stunning we tried to let her have 1 foal, not a stud farm or anything a riding school but we bent the rules a bit for this 1 time as ahe was just stunning however she couldnt get pregnant. Had the vet out to check her and scan her internaly to try find out qhy she couldnt concieve but we never did find out so we just kept her as a lesson horse.
I have a drafty mustang and he has a horrible time getting his feet done. I’ll try the walks in between. Right now he has to be sedated because farriers are scared of him and have hit him with their tools so often. It’s a crappy situation because he was always so good until one guy had a bad day.
@@dressagegirlkae I'm so sorry this happened to you.
I had a new farrier get impatient with one of my Connemara pony 2 year olds. My regular farrier along with my trainer had suggested him when my farrier retired. This young farrier wouldn't pet him or tell him he was a good boy, like my old one did. He just expected him to stand absolutely still while he took an enormous amount of time to do each foot. Since I couldn't hold him as my body wasn't strong enough at the time, he had brought along a 'friend"to help. I kept telling both of them that he needed some petting for assurance. Neither one seemed to care, at one point just basically slapping him on the neck once.
Upshot, the farrier got angry when the colt wanted his foot back again as he wasn't used to standing still that long with his foot in the air and asked me if he could, in his terms, teach him a thing or two.
I was out of my chair so fast I think it surprised the farrier demanding that he quit working on the colt as I wasn't having anyone roughing up my pony. He finished the foot with me standing right by him. Once my pony saw me that's all it took for him to stand quietly until the farrier was done. I paid him for his services but never had him back. Through the years I've known lots of good farriers and some like this one, that I wouldn't have on my property again.
Bottom line, from my experience, don't ever leave your horse alone with a farrier. Have someone with horse knowledge out with him. If I had stayed in the house instead of the barn, that colt could have had issues with farriers for the rest of his life.
@@dressagegirlkae A suggestion I have that I saw on one of Ryan Rose's CZcams videos. He suggested that you have strange people come into the pen after she was caught by her "human" and quietly come up and offer her a treat then stand back. Eventually she would become habituated to other people in her pen. (This horse, a rescue, was wary of anyone who wasn't her trainer and even then she wouldn't pick up her feet but for a second or two and only the front ones.) While I don't condone treats all the time, they do have their place. Just in his short video she got much better. The link to the video is czcams.com/video/eWjUYgREMiE/video.html
In case that doesn't work, the name of the video is 13yr old Rescue Horse has Never been Trimmed!
Again, the trainer is Ryan Rose
Hopes this helps!
I looked at a green untrained walker for my first horse. Mostly because she was free and belonged to someone my barn owner knew. And the theory was that i would put the money towards training instead of purchase. Thankfully my trainer went with me and instantly vetoed it. She was a thin and high strung chestnut mare.
A month later I got called out to a farm instead of my lesson that week and met my first horse. A 16 year old walker gelding. He’s 19 now and the absolute best thing to ever happen to me. He’s feisty and opinionated and stubborn but he’s taught me more about horses than I ever thought a chill gelding would, and he’s taken care of me at every turn. He’s given me the confidence to one day get another more “advanced” horse and a younger horse.
It’s so important to have a trainer or trusted horse person to with. I fell in love head over heels with my walker the first time I saw him. I was giddy. But my trainer kept my head on straight, reminded me to get a vet check, and helped me find my best friend. Never buy a horse without help!
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My first horse was a 3 year old untrained Walker. He’ll be 20 this summer and I still have him.
Good information!
AND (it should go without saying) if you are a first-time horse owner, get YOURSELF training, ideally WITH your new horse. Sending a horse to a trainer is fine but you can undo all that good work in 1 or 2 rides if you don’t know what you’re doing.
Absolutely true!
My first horse was an Arabian green 4 year old. Nearly 40 years later I still have Straight Egyptian Arabians.
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personally I don't agree with the Arabian point
I'm from Syria and all horses in Syria are Arabians they are so good and strong and if they trained well they will be good for beginners
they are sensitive and highly intelligent that's why they will be easy to ride and deal with because they learn and understand what you want faster than any other breed
I think she agrees with you about Arabian horses. Her concern, as she said, is for the horses. She literally said that. Too many end up in kill pens and people need to understand the commitment
The problem with Arabian horses in North America is they have been bred for looks rather than as riding horses. Arabian horses from your area are bred for soundness and as riding horses.
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I agree so many people this days bred Arabians for beauty that's you see a crazy horses.
even in Arabic countries they do that
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I understand that and appreciate it she have a point in this.
but i talk about riding for beginners.
what i mean is even if the equestrians are Beginners they can ride Arabians because they are intelligent and sensitive that's what makes them easy.
Note: Sorry for my English I'm steal learning.
She specified she was saying it because of the state of where the breed is *in America*
When I started working in barns, the first stallion I worked with was an older Arabian. He was so sweet and easy going. Unlike most of the other stallions in the barn, who would squeal if you looked at them wrong.
My first horse, that I still have, I bought as a 5 year old, injured, OTTB gelding for $800. I was taking lessons but was still considered an advanced beginner. I knew from his track pics that I had to have him, and at the time, I was a vet tech so I knew I could care for him properly without rushing his recovery and that was the only reason they sold him to me. Right now, I'm recovering from ACL surgery and cannot ride for another 4 months so I am teaching him some liberty work to keep his mind engaged and still have quality time with me. He doesn't have a mean bone in his body but is very inquisitive and playful but hates being groomed and overly touched and can become nippy if you ignore his mood swings. He's sensitive but not explosive, clever to the point of predicting certain cues before they happen, and gets easily frustrated if you constantly nag at him. I've had my share of vet bills with him and is prone to colic so his food has to be mashed but even after 6 years, he is still my one and only heart horse and I love him dearly.
Just to give my unrequested advice. I am an equine bodyworker and have worked on racing TB for most of my 35 years. Try grooming with the Cat's Tounge groomer that looks like a black sponge that couln't hold water lol. Another good grooming tool is a hand mitt that has a rough texture. Many, many TB's are very skin sensitive and one of these along with a towel is the best to groom them with. I would also try grooming at first in the stall with the horse able to move away if it wants. Just stay put and wait....It should get to where you will know what feels good to them and what doesn't!
There’s an OTTB at my barn whose owner is never around. I’ve started playing groom with her and I’m one of two people who will go anywhere near her feet (she bites and cowkicks). She’s super sweet on the inside and I would die to have her if I could afford her. ANYWAYS I have grooming mits and she’s in love with them. Using them has helped her relax while grooming because they get her itchy spots sooo well. She’s always making happy pony faces when I use them 🤣 by using those she’s definitely less reactive to me coming at her with brushes, and she stands for longer to be groomed. Highly recommend! They’re also great because you can get hard to reach areas like their armpits and around their ears really well
my thoroughbred apparently didn't get the memo about being sensitive and high strung. She's a sweetie. Calm and good natured. And beautiful!!
My first horse at the age of 42 was an Arabian. I had very little experience with horses. It took me a bit to learn how to work with her.
I lost her about 2 years later due to a tumor in her small intestines.
My next horse, that I still have today was an untrained, rescued Arabian. I've done the majority of the training on her myself.
Due to having a lot going on in my life for the last few years (death of my mother, taking care of Dad while his health declined until he went into a home, husband's cancer and death followed by my dad's death a few months later), I've barely done anything with her for the last few years, let alone ride her.
But, when I got back on, she was great. There were a few things I knew I needed to work on.
Then I had a mini stroke, followed by heart surgery. I'm not allowed to ride yet, but I can do ground work, so I'm gonna be doing that.
I think a lot of it depends on both the horse and the person. I knew someone that had had horses longer than I did that got a mustang. She couldn't do much of anything with it. I tried showing her how to work with it in the RP, but she didn't want to put the time in.
Having an ottb. Rescue and neglected, injured and YOUNG and won some decent money in racing. He took solid groundwork and experience to strip back and restart the training experience to ensure his mind was there, experience and connection. He is an amazing mind and was desensitised as one of my big restarting aspects. He is my soul horse. It's like feeling at home on him. He checks in with inexperienced riders and not take advantage of them. He is definitely an exception. Growing up we only had stock or quarter horses(aus). Was told never ever go near a ottb. Saxon was just a spur of the moment and so lucky to have him. His 17.2 and an exception to the rule. We live next to a racehorse trainer and it's heart breaking. Woops also have minis. 1 piece of advice minis have to have a lot of work to stop laminitis. A 7yo rescue has such terrible laminitis which she has corrective shoes medication daily grazing muzzle. It's super super difficult at times and heart breaking at times. Finally after 2 years we have a vet who is amazing and it's constant checking in an amazing farrier. A piece of advice is find those people first. Vet and farrier. Not all fit
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Your videos are so great. I completely agree with you. As a mustang owner, you must be able to train and have that mind body connection with the horse or it will fail. Mustangs only thrive when they have a relationship with their humans. They don't see ownership but partnership.
A "trainer" can ruin a good horse in 2 weeks. Especially the guys that only care about money and get paid regardless of outcome.
My first horse was an Arabian mare, she is the sweetest horse alive. I’ve been riding Arabs for over 6 years now and grew up with this amazing breed. I think people don’t like the halter Arabians specifically, and they can have similar trauma as race horses when they come from the halter show circuit. Also, the Arabian show circuit is very particular, competitive, and toxic at times. Arabs can be the most amazing all around horses and I think they do have big personalities. They do make amazing beginner horses and all around horses, I do many shows where I’m doing close to 6 different disciplines over a several day show. I love Arabs and I think they could be the perfect first horse if you find the right one, same with any horse ❤
I love Arabians, and I love their dish face, they are gorgeous, and people should treat them with the respect they deserve!
Morgans make great horses to ride.
The first horse I rode when I was 7 was an Arabian named Pickles!! She was very sweet and gentle, and was definitely very accustomed to being around kids and working as a lesson horse. I loved her, but I know other ones now that are much more high strung. The ones at my job are very gentle, even with their quirks ☺️
I am with Arabians my whole life.
The high strung ones are in most cases either not handled with enough patience and calmness, or they are forced to do stuff they don't feel comfortable with.
Or they are even forced to be high strung because this is searched for in the show ring by lots of people unfortunately.
If handled with patience and empathy, Arabians are the most people oriented, sweet, sensitive (in a good way) and cooperative horses one could wish for.
Sensitivity comes with a prize though, and this is not beeing able to tolerate to much force.
@@nozee77 I agree 100%
Guys stop trying to argue or defend your self this is just her opinion and her advice to all the people who care for it. Pls stop these negative comments.
Very humble. You displayed copious amounts of information and knowledge. Gave exquisite council. High marks. Well done.!!
I have a soft spot for appaloosa horses. I had a
Polish Arab I actually used for veterans with amputation. He was awesome. I ended up giving him to a guy amputated at knees. He was taught to kneel just so he could mount him. But, by far, my favorite of 32 years, was my sweet Galecino stallion. Gaited, like a rocking chair. Tough hooves, and hard to tire him out. Smart, willing, and eager to please. I got to meet the head Trainer of Mideval Times. His stallion was very vocal, and he asked me if my mare was in heat, I pulled ahead of them so he could see my quiet "mare' had two testicals. He later talked to me after I got off patrol. My Galecino is related to the Andalusia horses, just bred for working cattle. I got invite to visit their barn. Magnificent beauties!
But, I'll take my little guy over them, I also favor the king bred quarters. And I had a son of Bugs Alive 75. Great sire for mules. All in all, blessed😊
I have a polish Arab, he’s not more defined like a pre-bred which I love because then I don’t have to worry about his breathing and such. He’s such a sweetheart and my heart horse, he’s been one of the first horses I’ve connected with. He’s blind so he has to trust me but I want him to be able to carry himself as well. He’s turning 24 this year right before I go off to college, I don’t know what I’m going to do without him but he’s the reason I’m going to college for horse training. He’s coming with me everywhere.
Great video, my first horse was an Arabian was a not easy horse to train to my liking but was worth it she is such a sweet heart now.
My favorite breed of all time is an Arabian and one of the best rides I ever had was on a chestnut Arab mare. When I became an adult and started buying horses, I started with an Arab mare, eventually bought a gelding. I preferred my AQHAs by far. I can barely stand to look at what passes for a halter horse in the Arabian industry today. They look and seem insane.
My first horse was an Arabian. My kids and grandkids rode him. The bestest boy. He just recently passed away. ❤
One of the school horses I was learning riding on, Mochito, was a thoroughbred (quite a few years off track of course). I loved him the most. He was VERY sensitive and very interested in going forward. He was the only horse who perfectly responded to my cues.
(This also made me quite desperate whenever riding other horses, because I knew those cues SHOULD work, but for some reason sometimes did and sometimes didn't. At that time I knew nothing about actually teaching the horse to respond. I was expecting them to be machines on which you just had to press specific buttons. So thanks for teaching me about pressure and release and all that.)
Why I love Thoroughbreds/sensitive horses.💕 THE RESPONSIVENESS. I don’t find horses that you have to use a ton of leg/seat on, to be pleasant rides. You feel like you went 10 rounds in a boxing ring, after the ride.😭
@@karabnp87 Absolutely. And I don't find riding sensitive horses a bad thing for beginners (at least if they are a bit older), as long as they have a good teacher. Riding Mochito taught me to be very gentle in all my cues if I didn't want him to shoot off like a rocket!
Meanwhile with the other desensitized school horses, I learned to just jump straight to full force, never trying to teach them to be gentle. I didn't know I should be doing it + every rider would have to do the same for it to have an eventual effect in making the horse more sensitive. Such is the problem with school riding. 😥
I owned 2 Arabs and rode them in endurance races…one was calm and easy going and the other was fiery all of the time but definitely my favorite breed
My first horse was a mini pony, I still have him, his name is Rusty. One problem, he is REALLY rude sometimes. My dad usually has to do his hooves because he doesn’t trust him with me. My dad got kicked by him in his stomach, and he was DONE with doing his hooves. Now, my dad won’t do his hooves and his hooves are getting really outgrown. I need my dad to understand that he needs his hooves trimmed. My dad always says: I’ll do it later don’t worry. But he never does. I don’t know what to do..
I've been around Arabians all my life and I definitely think they get a bad rep and quirky is definitely the right word
I agree with your warning about miniature horses. Thank you for bringing awareness to the maintenance they require. I have miniature horses and they do get turned out, but they have a job as driving horses, so they are getting exercise to maintain fitness. One of them only grazes with a grazing muzzle to avoid overeating. They are kept in a dry lot and they all get their hay in hay bags to prolong eating time. I also do not hand feed treats. After they are done driving they get a treat, but that's it. Most minis are over fed and under exercised. They can eat more if they get regular exercise. The one that wears the muzzle when turned out in pasture eats super fast because she was kept with full size horses before I got her so she requires the most management but has turned out to be an excellent driving horse. She is happy to get the muzzle on because she knows she's going out. It's a commitment but they are so much fun!
I had a desert-bred Asil Arabian who was quite an extreme type physically, very refined. He could have been a 'show horse' but what I did with him was racing and later endurance events. He was fantastically athletic, healthy with a great temperament. Don't write off an entire section of a breed because some breeders and keepers are unethical and have the wrong priorities.
OTTB horses are awesome; the only thing new to them is not being expected to spend their time under saddle galloping. One might be surprised at how quickly they embrace their new lifestyle; and some can become downright lazy. They are familiar with trailering, clipping, veterinary and dental procedures and frequent sessions with the farrier. They have also seen plenty of sights at the track that would might spook horses who have always lived on a farm; screaming crowds, umbrellas popping open, baby strollers, bicycles, golf carts, etc. The truth is that regardless of the breed, the individual horse that is right for you is always the best choice.
For the most part, all OTTB's have been handled throughout their lifetime by professionals. I've found their ground manners to be impeccable.
@@bethfornaro9383I couldn't have explained it better than you 2 did. I have an OTT Arabian stallion. Bomb proof, very loyal, kind and social. Good with kids and inexperienced ppl.
When I first got him, I couldn't put my legs on. Most ppl don't know what to do. I kept riding him with my legs on him and very soon he knew that my legs were there for other reasons. He's now 28yo and still lives to race. Unfortunately I can't let him do that anymore due to some health issues he has. But he's still acting like he's 5yo, healthy and is training for the track. When he stops acting like that, I know his time is coming to let him go...
I have ridden Arabians for years and they are my absolute favorite breed, but depending on the individual horse, they probably aren’t the best for un-experienced people, since they can be high strung. I love them tho ❤ they are just really special and sweet once you get to know them, and very fun to ride. I personally like how they are a bit more excitable
I think a group of horses that are a bit overrrecommended as first time horses, especially for very casual recreational horseback riding are baroque horses (Andalusians,Frisians,Lusitanos,Lipizzans, etc.).Don’t get me wrong ,they are amazing riding horses and not nearly as high maintenance as thoroughbreds and Arabians, but they do need quite a bit of mental stimulation.They were bred for very high level dressage for centuries and have become popular with hobby equestrians only quite recently, so they are still quite true to their roots.People who like to train daily , even if it’s not for competitions will be very happy with baroque horses.The problem is is they often get recommended as these super easy low effort casual horses which they just aren’t.They are horses for more high level recreational riding imo.
I almost got a thoroughbred, she had never raced and she has great training, but they sold her before we had a chance.
And now I have a sassy appaloosa mare 😂
Our first horse was a yearling TB filly. Our second was a 7 year old OTTB gelding. They taught us so much. Our OTTB was a perfect gentleman and helped us learn so that by the time our mare was grown we were ready for her.
My first horse was a Arabian she is wonderful❤ she can form a great breeding place and lived at my barn I take lessons at for a lone time so she was the perfect horse for me❤ I’m so thankful for her❤❤
I would add that there is nothing wrong with a grade horse that has had good handling, good training and has experience & years on him as well as a good mind. Rescues are full of them if you know what to look for or have guidance from someone you trust who can assist you in making a good decision.
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Best horse I EVER had, was a 15 year old Grade mare. She was a Bay and a beauty. At just under 15hh - perfect size for me. She came to me - after being trained at just about everything I could ever desire. I was a newbie and she was so gentle. I could ride her bareback without any bridle or lead rope, as she was trained in both leg cues and neck. Calm on trail rides and never, ever put me in danger. We bonded immediately, and although she would let anyone ride her, she always seemed extra cautious with me. I will forever miss her. I truly don't think any horse will ever compare.
@@StacyM723 She was a gift that many people will never have the good fortune to receive. A precious treasure that I'm glad you appreciated. RIP good girl!
If you want a draft, with or without the "feathers" (hair) on the legs, KNOW about CPL BEFORE you buy the horse. CPL is swelling in and sores on the horse's lower legs. Lots of cheap drafts in kill pens have it, or some other leg problem, but I've heard of people buying expensive horses that develop it. CPL can be managed, but you have to have the physical and financial ability to do so. It is a heartbreaking condition. What you said about minis is absolutely true. I LOVE to drive minis, but my favorite gelding will founder if he even looks at new spring grass. We have to keep him on a dry lot in the spring, which seems rather mean. He's foundered 3 times, though, and is now (in his teens) retired from pulling a cart. Minis are just great, although they ARE horses with perhaps more smarts and attitude than is good for them sometimes.
My first horse was a 2,5 year old Arabian which I got for around 300$ the only thing I knew about him was that he was grey and lame we showed up with a trailer to see him and took him home the same day and it was the best decision I ever made it turned out that he just had thrush which we took care of in about 2 weeks and now he is perfectly healthy I've had him for almost a year now and we are slowly starting him under saddle and he is amazing the best horse I've ever worked with ❤️ love you Zigi❤
I also wouldn’t recommend getting a retired rodeo horse unless you’re a strong intermediate rider. Similar to off the track thoroughbreds, they are trained to “burst out of the gate” for lack of better words. They have a lot of get up and go. Great horses, but if you can ride through a gallop, you shouldn’t get one.
One thing you didn't mention about Thoroughbreds. In general, they are EXTREMELY smart! They learn very quickly how to get out of doing things they don't want to do, if you aren't firm and consistent.
I do not regret choosing to adopt two mustang mares from the BLM. They are the first horses I have owned. I have worked with domestic horses a lot in the past. They are fantastic, versatile horses. If you are new to horses in general; you can find mustangs already trained and then it’s no different than buying any horse from a prior owner/trainer. Find a horse trained to your level of comfort and have trainer resources ready to help you as you go through the first time horse owner growing pains.
exactly, HIGHLY recommend mustangs, either trained ones if you're new, or if you have experience and resources to adopt and train yourself, especially considering the overpopulation issue, they really need people to adopt them. it's like the adopt vs shop issue with dogs & cats, except equestrians really look down their noses at crossbreeds and especially mustangs. sadly a very elitist hobby/way of life. :/
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@@MonAhgasInsomniAroELF Not ALL equestrians do. I personally don't and know lots of people who don't. Sadly there are "snobs" in every area of life.
My first and current horse is a 23 year old Arab mare! She is a demon, but has a good head on her shoulders. We had some hiccups. I adore her.
I’ve owned four different horses breeds over the past 45 years and my hands down favorite breed is the Arabian. Their high intelligence and kindness towards humans make them a horse for all stages of horsemanship. The key to owing a horse for first timers is research on the pedigree if at all possible….some bloodlines tend to be more problematic than others. Visiting different breeding farms to just observe their horses behavior (never tell them you’re interested in buying) and what they’re used for….ie. Jumping, trail, saddle seat, western, etc. Always remember buyer beware.❗️
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Which bloodlines tend to be calmest?
My family has had an Arab, the old style, super nice, but more go than woah.
My personal favorite breed is Haflinger, had a mare from when she was 8 to 29..
And my daughter now got one..
Personally I go for mares.. you get the full cycle, geldings are more a hit or miss kind..
I have an Arabian who is super sassy and doesn't really like humans a lot sadly : (
@@infernowarrior9884there's no way to see this. For example... Patron, the sire of the world famous Padron and WC Abdullahhh, was a very difficult horse to handle. His offspring were not, they had nice and easy characters.
Sid Abouhom also had a very bad temper, you can find him in a lot of pedigrees, mostly due to his grandson Morafic. But the bad temper didn't pass on. So I don't agree that you can find good or bad characters of horses in their pedigree...
@@marydinchen7141 try to give him confidence in humans again. There must be a reason for this horse
Great advice! I don't own a horse right now but have watched many of my friends go through a lot of issues when buying their horse, and what you say is what I have seen.
I'm not a First time horse owner. I am on my second Arab, and this one is a mare. Love her and she is sassy and keeps me on my toes. Literally.
The one time I encountered Arabians (in New Zealand), they were absolutely gorgeous. Especially the one mare that I got to ride. She was so sweet and chill, and the owner said she always had been, even as a very young horse. When the owner got her, years ago, it was actually the owner's daughter who was looking for a horse and wanted something high-spirited. The owner herself wanted a horse as well, but had three criteria: NOT a young horse, NOT a grey and NOT an Arabian. Her daughter rode this young bay Arabian mare, and the saddle wasn't on properly, so she fell off with the saddle slipping down the side. And the mare just stopped and waited, so she told her mother "Mum, you have to try this horse". That's how the owner ended up with that mare, only fitting one of her three criteria, but she said it was the best decision.
My first horse was an arabian (still have him, my only horse). I got him young and not well trained, he doesn't give me anything for free but he's always been very careful with me. He's never once thrown me or stepped on my feet or kicked me.
One of the coolest things about him is if he gets scared he jumps but then he has a moment of "oh wait no, i don't need to freak out" and keeps himself calm.
But he will also rear up on the lead rope when I tell him no more grass so :I
I agree, my 2nd horse was an OTTB that my trainer rescued and restarted. She was a handful but became and wonderful dressage horse. We put that energy to good use ❤
I’ve trained, cared for, and shown a lot of horses over the years, including my own horses, horses boarded in my facility, and horses I took in for training. This video has a lot of very wise advice. Arabs and Thoroughbreds tend to be very sensitive, intelligent, and quick to react. They are great horses for calm and experienced riders who know how to earn a horse’s trust by being a good “leader”. Once these horses know that you know what you’re doing and you treat them well, they will carry you confidently anywhere you want to go and will do what you ask. If you seem timid, mean, or like you have no idea what you’re doing, you will have nothing but resistance and hyper-reactivity from them. Off-the-track thoroughbreds usually need months at rest in pasture before you can begin a training regimen, and that training regimen should include a lot of ground work aimed at building trust and curiosity.
Draft horses and warmbloods are usually calmer and more cooperative, but as she points out, a larger horse means higher maintenance costs. And people who are used to riding smaller horses are usually shocked at the power in their strides and movement. In fact, I’ll share a tragic story here to get this point across. Many years ago, a dressage rider in a barn I was boarding at gave his girlfriend and a friend of hers permission to go trail riding on his almost 17hh upper level dressage warmbloods while he went out of town. She and her friend were experienced western riders who were used to riding quarter horses and they assured him they would “ride lightly” and could handle horses just fine. They rode out of the barn wearing jeans, sneakers (rather than boots), and baseball caps (no helmets). Something spooked the horses and they took off at a gallop on the trail. The girls fell off because they couldn’t control all that horsepower. The horses ran back to the barn, and some of the boarders rode out to try to find the girls when they saw the horses show up riderless. They found one walking in a daze, bleeding and badly bruised. The other was seriously injured and had to be airlifted.
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One breed I highly DO reccomend is a standardbred. Have owned a couple that were ott and though they raced they were not fresh. Mild mannered and pleasant and people will practically give them to you because they aren't desirable like thoroughbreds. They also canter to- thats a myth that they don't. Just need training to do so like any other horse
Vouch on this too ! I have 2 standardbreds one ott and one never raced. There so fun to ride 😆
my mum has a arad from this rare blood line and hes so gentle literally his first time being ridden he saw cars, deer, and cylicts and he didnt care
I got my first horse like that: I paid 100$ per month to ride the horse basically as often as I wanted (with the owner present most of the time as he was my trainer too), clean it, provide help when the ferrier or vet was around, helped to clean and preserve saddle and other equipment. Ah.. And go to shows (Dressage / Show Jumping). After a few month they said they wanted to sell her and I cried so hard - my parents actually bought a horse - like wtf, that was out of their possibilities at that time, we were not rich. But they found an agreement with the owner, to not move her from the stable, to sell them back to the previous owner if we ever decided to give her away. That was so perfect, I am still grateful.
My daughter fell in love with Magic an Arab gilding. Magic was a spoiled parrot, needed a firm hand and even then was unpredictable. My daughter was a good rider and had been riding a lot of our neighbors green broke stock but Magic threw here over a fence, broke her arm and shattered her confidence that she never got back.
my first horse was a shetland pony. he was my friend and looked after me. I sold him to the riding schools trainer for her little son. after that he ended up in a school for disabled children. he was the sweetest with a lot of personality. later I have racehorses both galop and trotters. I have jumped and ridden dressage in competitions. and I agree with the fact that these might not be right for beginners. but all horses are different and behave different to different people. my second horse was sold because (we found out later) she had begun rearing and going over backwards. we never had any problems and in the riding school she was the only big horse who was used with beginners.
Wow, had to subscribe. Great information and you are so articulate. A real pleasure to listen🤙🏻
My first horse I got when I was 11 yrs. old, was an Off the track Thoroughbred, and what was the first breed on the list??🥴🤣 Really though, my boy was a Heaven sent angel to and for me. He taught me SO much. I also never fell off of him in our 10 years together. He never threw me once, and even though we experienced some scary moments and things, he ALWAYS took great care of me.💕💗 However, even with my unicorn of a horse and situation, I *do not* recommend an OTTB as a first time horse, unless you find an exceptionally mellow and chill one, and have the close supervision/help from a trainer you trust.
OH, also, some of my earliest riding lessons were on a young/green, yet, surprisingly solid Arabian mare. She also took excellent care of me, and I never fell or was thrown off of her, either.😅 I was very fortunate with my hot-blooded, “baptism by fire” horse start, I do realize. I credit them for developing my really soft and gentle hands and helping develop my careful and PRECISE seat/legs. THEY’LL LET YOU KNOW IF SOMETHING ISN’T RIGHT AND IS UNSETTLING TO THEM.🤣💕
I love your videos and as a retired riding instructor find your advice spot on!
This was super helpful thank you so much
Very good advice and I agree 100% with her points. My first horse was a lead "pony" at the track...a Quarter horse mut palomino...19 years together...miss him every day.
So sorry for your loss. Horse people get the love you had, others, not so much.
My first horse was a Percheron-Andalusian cross and he’s been basically a perfect boy and just this past September after a year of having him I bought my second. She’s a very pretty Belgian and between the two I have more work to do with my newer mare, especially with lifting her hooves, but both have been great starter horses that have been brought from the Amish.
I was in my early 30’s when I got my first horse, a 4 y/o green broke saddlebred mare… and I barely knew how to ride. Needless to say I was in waaaay over my head. About 15 years later when I had a few acres and didn’t have to board I tried again. I bought myself a Paso Fino and am in love with this breed. Of course you can’t have just one so over the next years I bought 3 more & a mini. Paso’s love to hang out with ppl and they’re so much fun to ride.
Correction: Mustangs are not 'wild' horses. They are feral horses.
Na. Wild. Arrogant to say an entire species is forever altered and determined by our species.
Mustangs did devolve from feral Spanish horses. They have their own color and confirmation. They’re very rare now due to the many more modern feral. Every now and then you’ll see one who looks like the old time mustang. Mustang isn’t an English word but I don’t know where it came from. They are smallish, easy keepers.
What's the difference?
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Human arrogance.
My first horse was a mustang, if it werent for warick schillers intensive studying program, I would have failed. It's so much effort and most people would never do that effort, great advice! But its been an amazing journey and requires so much time to ensure their spirit stays alive and becomes a true partner with you, not an owner/horse relationship.
Excellent video! Thank you. 😁👍
I love her intent with this video, geared toward the absolute newbie who may not realize what they're getting into - so the average someone who is new to riding/horses would be in a bad situation if they got one of these guys. I agree with everything she says here and remember this is her opinion. She seems to know what she's talking about about.
My first horse was an 11 year old Arabian rescue. Love of my life. Amazing horse.
Oooopsie... I actually got a Belgian (11yo 16HH 1900#) for my first horse APR'2023. Mainly because I am on the heavier side. Yep... he is big, but I have learned to work with him, and he listens very well. He has been great! Mostly doing tail riding for now. But, I want to come up to speed on learning all he knows about driving carts/wagons. He use to be a plow horse, did pulling competitions, and cart/wagons at apple orchards and parades. He has been a great versatile family horse. I also have a very good support base at the Ranch I board him at.
Arabians are the best. My first horse was an Arabian and I wouldn’t have another breed. They are the best with kids. It is the only breed that allows kids to ride stallions. Like every breed you have to understand that they are all individuals.
my first horse was a Hanoverian cross Thoroughbred.. ( she was 16 at the time and was the perfect horse). my second horse was a Clydesdale.. (oh well 🤷🏼♀️) my third horse… is a off the track thoroughbred.. my aunt trained him for two years but he was still pretty edgy. he is starting to be an amazing show horse (he just gets really scared of going to new places) he’s only 7 and ik i need to give him more time but i still think that every horse that was on the track will ALWAYS take a part of the track with them. “you can take a horse of the track but the track will never leave the horse”- Penny Tweeney
Thank you this helped me so much!!!❤❤
Great video and information!
You're spot on with Arabians. I was an Arabian owner for 35yrs and many variables go into the temperament of the horse (and not just arabians).
Ayy I’m early! Love your content so much and it’s helped me learn a few things throughout my journey. ❤
For draft horses it is also important to know that they were bread for pulling things not so much for carrying a rider, so many people think just because they are big and strong that they can carry just about any rider of any size. They need the right training to be able to carry weight
omg, cannot let my husband or family watch this vid - your #1 is what I own now after having QH's / Morgan's & Paints for over 40 yrs, but TB's were my first ride / love at age 4 (now over age 50) so actually I am going back to my roots. blessings n stay kind always!
My friend's daughter has trained two wild mustangs and she has had a wonderful experience, but what absolutely shocked me was how frequently people will obtain these beautiful wild horses and later auction them for meat. I'm not an expert on this and probably you guys know much more than I do, but it's something I learned about when talking to my friend about her daughter's experience. She received money to train the first horse and wasn't able to keep the horse personally so she made absolutely sure that the person who purchased the horse after she had trained it truly wanted the horse for riding/family purposes. And to someone who would not neglect or abuse the horse, of course.
I live in Oregon and was able to see a wild herd on an Indian reservation. They were so incredibly beautiful and I can absolutely see why someone would want to purchase one of these horses. Definitely a commitment to get yourself into but worth it if you have the time and training to do it well. Also wonderful just to see them in the wild, living their lives and running free.
My first horse when I was 9 was an Arabian, he was well bred, (old style polish-this was 47 years ago) and he was the best first horse I’ve ever known to learn on, he was a fabulous teacher. (Not easy, but he sure made me the horse woman I am today).
My second horse was 3/4 Clydesdale who never had an issue holding his own feet up.
Every potential horse owner should know what a horse needs nutritionally before buying one.
I’m now in my mid 50’s and have 2 of the best Mustangs. I’d trust an ‘out of the wild’ Mustang far more than any domestic still feral horse. They’re more sensitive to cues and learn so quickly. And while it’s true that a Sales Authority Mustang can be bought for $25, I can assure you that they can and do sell for far more. I’ve seen one after just 100 days of training be bought for 50K. 8 to 20K is average for a well trained Mustang. I have more trust in my Mustangs to keep me safe as I get older than ANY of the other well known ‘breed’ horses I’ve had (Lipizzan, Oldenburg, Quarter horses, Appendix Quarters, Tenn. Walkers, M. Fox Trotters).
I do believe that a totally green rider is never a good match for a green horse-no matter the breed involved. But I have seen kids aged 10 to 16 be able to easily train yearling to 3 year old just out of the wild Mustangs and be very successful with them.
I sat a Percheron in a University equitation program. He was one of the best mounts ever. He turned and took a kick from a thoroughbred that got away from a rider in the ring, protecting me. No problem with his feet.
That was very helpful thank you.
My first horse (and still current horse) is an OTTB, and i love all the work he needs as you will be able to get a lot more out of a horse that needs tons of effort than a horse who already knows everything, which will make you put less effort in as they wont need it. My horse is such a sweet guy, just struggles a bit with riding but hes doing a lot better after a year of training
Good information. Thank you so much.
good video, thanks for sharing all your insights....
Another great video you are the best!!❤❤❤I love my gypsy fjord cross he is almost 3 got him at 7 months and he’s wonderful❤❤❤
My first horse was an OTTB I adopted from a rescue I volunteer with, and I really loved him but I do agree with you here, on these breei.
Very good advice...especially for new owners or beginning riders. Horses are expensive and require a LOT of horsemanship and care kinds of knowledge. That happens over time. Thanks, I am 72 yrs old, still have one 25 yr old AQHA gelding my husband rides but I don't ride anymore. We do enjoy your videos.
I agree with everything you said here.
Ive owned and ridden Morgans, Thoroughbreds, and Warmbloods. My last horse was a Lusitano. He had a wonderful temperament, and was an absolute pleasure to ride and own. I would highly recommend this breed to anyone. Best horse of my lifetime.
Bravissima! 👏👏👏 very thoughtful and well explained reasoning, all great points!
Ok ok ok I admit, I took the bait into the video… saw that title and (having watched many of your other videos and fully knowing that you know your stuff about horses) I say to myself OH THIS IS GOING TO BE GOOD (possibly juicy comment section too). And honestly, I really think you did a phenomenal job, and possibly even saved some horses from going mismatched to well meaning but inexperienced new buyers.
BTW I’m nobody in the horse world- did my showing and some eventing decades ago. But I am a lifelong student of the horse. Plus I teach (artist) so I know teaching. And I think you have a real gift.
Ok, that weirdo artsy horse lady is off to the studio- happy trails everyone ❤mbz
A very good video! That said, my first horse (bought six months ago) is part draught (she's probably an Irish Sport Horse but her ancestry is unknown). She's 13 but hadn't been handled or ridden much when we got her. Not the perfect first horse, but she has an amazing personality and we have a great team of people helping us train her.
I was going to come for you because of the Arabian thumbnail and the title lol but I agree with you for a lot of first time owners Arabs would not be good. They are spirited, sensitive and very intelligent, often smarter then their owners and that I think is why people can't handle them well and they are deemed "crazy" and "stupid". My first horse was an Arabian, we had a super rocky start because of people who tried her out before we bought her, she went from fat and quiet to skinny and half wild all in the space of a month. We found a trainer though who was absolutely the best person for her, he refused to give up on her and he eventually got through to her, I started taking lessons on her when she was ready and when she came back to the boarding stable more then a year after leaving for training we continued working from there. She became the absolute best horse and we trusted each other fully. She went from dragging people around to following me around without a rope or halter, from rearing and trying to flip over on you to riding bareback and bridleless.
I think you should have added if a first time owner does want an Arabian they should go through a reputable rescue, they often have excellent horses available for adoption and they wont let someone adopt who is not right for that horse. If a horse is adopted then they can rescue more from the kill pens and auctions. I would actually change the title of this video to what I would not recommend for first time horse owners, or something like that, that would actually possibly reach what should be your target audience with this video, first time horse owners.
My first horse was awesome, she was a Morab (1/2 Arabian & 1/2 Morgan)… a fantastic and beautiful Hunter/Jumper. She set out on a Hunter pace and after hours in the field would reach the end and be ready to do it all over again… other riders were amazed at her endurance. I had the best of both breeds in this mare and really liked the fact that I knew her mood instantly, no question if she was going to ride like an Arab or a Morgan from day to day. After she passed I had a wonderful draft mix, my biggest issue was never knowing what he was thinking when he was young and in training, a true Poke Face personality, but he turned out to be a Gentle Giant and I miss them both terribly to this day. I purchased both horses as yearlings
I agree totally with you list, ive trained for 25 years and handled every breed you mentioned and your observations are correct in my humble opinion!
Thank you SO much for this article. It reinforces everything that I tell my adult students when they decide they want their own special first horse! I know there are exceptions and I can see that you did include this information, but for a first horse search, your video is spot on!! I can only say Amen, Sister! Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
My first pony was a chestnut Arabian mare, she was a firecracker lol, luckily I wanted to go fast and was a brave good riding kid. She dumped and horrified many of my friends definitely wouldn't recommend to most, but I loved her.