"We're English, we know who he is!" For anyone that doesn't: Edward of Woodstock "The Black Prince" was a war hero during the 100 years war. He fought alongside his father, King Edward 3rd at Crecy. He won the battle of Poitiers against a French army 4x his size, and successfully campaigned in Spain to win back the Spanish Crown for a deposed Spanish King. While never commanding more then 10,000 troops at a time, Prince Edward defeated over 400,000 French and Spanish in his life. Considered the very pinnacle of English Chivalry, Prince Edward died before his father and never served as King.
@@tylermcneeley3136 Hated which peasants? French? English? Source or link, please, if not too much trouble. I will say that the average reader likely does not realize how set in stone were the stations of classes of people back then. There is an old poem about it: "The rich man at his castle; the poor man at his gate; God made them both high and low; each in his Estate."
@@sonofizzy Prince Edwards first ever solo military action was when he led an raid attack against the French countryside. He spread out his line and marched across Southern France burning, stealing, and butchering everything in his way. It's said in this attack he sacked over 50 villages. While brutal, this tactic wasn't unheard of and was ment to make the rich farmland not rich anymore, and wouldn't be rich again anytime soon. Laden with booty, the Prince marched north to meet with an Allied English force, but when that force was defeated by King John of France, Edward turned west. The overwhelming French Army caught up with Edward at Poitiers but the Black Prince's longbows won the day. He returned home to England with a fortune in French gold, grain, and the captured King John of France himself.
I love how Edward is like: "This man's knightly at heart. Fuck you guys I'm making him a knight, cause I'm the prince and I can do that. Don't like it tough."
@@SwordsmanMercenary Ir's also beyond contestation because of divine right. The ruling family was said to be chosen by God. To question the prince woukd be oi question God.
Fun fact :king Edward III and his sons partecipated at least one time at a tourney under false name and then revealed themselves at the end of the tourney, just to enjoy the experience.
It makes sense, you know that they spent their lives being deferred to by everyone who knew them. I bet it was always in the back of their minds, "How good am I really? Are my opponents holding back to avoid striking the prince? How can I PROVE I know how to fight, and do it well?"
@@thesenate5913 Tell that they cannot joust because they might die to Henry The Young King or his (and Richard Coeur De Leon’s other dead brother) brother Geoffrey, Duke of Brittany, or Henry VIII who almost died while jousting. Or a couple French kings, for that matter. It was well known to be dangerous, which is why the Church tried to consider any tournament deaths as suicide.
I love how Edward specifically says "Your men love you, and if I knew nothing else about you that would be enough." Dude was straight up good to knight Will based on the strength of his bonds with Chaucer, Wart, etc.
I only wish he somehow recognized the girl who was his blacksmith as one of his men. I know that a lot of times "men" includes everyone in a team, but it would've been a nice touch. (not trying to be PC or anything)
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 Because of the power Hitler could give them. Otherwise it was out of fear of his wrath. This character had no such station or power. It would be obvious to anyone his "men" were there because they wanted to be.
James Purefoy is such an amazing actor. He was SUCH a great Prince Edward, but an even better Marc Antony in HBO's Rome.... Dude was such a great antony. One of my favorite actors ever.
@@meta1152 He was iconic in that film, that I think wasnt meant to become the cult fan fav that it did...Most recently saw him in A Discovery of Witches ad Philippe De Clarmont...He still got it, great presence as usual...One of thoe actors that should be bigger than they are.
"Are you mad? You knowingly endanger a member of the royal family?" "He knowingly endangers himself." That was a wonderful response.... And he would agree!
I love lines like that :) It's okay for one character to explain it to another Englishmen as long as one of them points out that it's unnecessary and the speaker is just being rhetorical, which is very lucky for half the audience who are non-Englishmen who do not totally know who the Black Prince is.
When the black prince says "I shall have your opponent informed of it" there is this very distinct undertone of "You WILL kick ass in my name or I will know why" It is one of the most inspiring looks of a leader to someone he knows for a fact has the heart to go to the end. I doubt that Edward would ever find a more loyal man than william to serve him.
The way William's breath stutters after Edward says "Take a knee" makes me tear up everytime. It's like he knows what the Prince is hinting at but he can't quite believe it.
I think he though he was going to chop his head off for mercy. Wasn't that an honorable way to die back then? So that he wasn't brutally killed by the crowd.
William showed respect and mercy to Edward when he let him ride out his last match (rather than withdraw) and keep his honor "intact." But, also showed fearlessness, a warrior's spirit, and great resolve when he rode knowing who Edward was. Thus, he proved himself to be a knight.
Adamar must have been furious to hear that he would have to face Thatcher, as he called him, after all. When he learns that it was mercy, which he said was a weakness, saved Thatcher from shame, must have made him more angry.
"This is my word, and as such is beyond contestation" is one of my favourite lines from the entire movie and I'm not entirely sure why. I think the delivery is just spot-on.
The crowd cheering at the end, after jeering William while he was in the stocks only moments before, always reminds me forcefully of a quote from Oliver Cromwell: _"Do not trust to the cheering, for those very persons would shout as much if you and I were going to be hanged."_
In a deleted scene it was Geoff who had the crowd cheering before Edward shows himself. That's why the old lady was waving her fist. The crowd was chanting "William! William" at that point. I guess that in editing they decided that this scene was more powerful.
@@Rockhound6165 I saw an alternate ending where Geoffrey Chaucer used his elegant words to calm the crowd. He was hit with a cabbage and said, "Mother? Is that you? That must be you, I could recognize your cooking anywhere." I also found out from reading, that the Real Geoffrey Chaucer, supposedly took a break in writing, around the timeframe this movie was to emulate.
"But you also tilt when you should have withdrawn. And that is knightly to." Honor and Respect above all else. He EARNED not born in the title of Knight.
Prince Edward was a total badass, even at a young age and was so up until his death. England lost a potentially great king when he died before his father.
Small detail I really like here. He has a scar under one of his eyes, which would match up with the scars he got after being shot in the face with a longbow while fighting Welsh rebels in his youth, a battle where he carried on fighting, the whole day with an arrow sticking out of his face before undergoing complex surgery to remove said arrow.
@@weldonwin Are you sure? I would say that your whole claiming belongs to Henry V who got shot in the face with arrow in his youth and get his famous scar.
@@smk3390 But that doesn't take away from Matt's comparison in regards to editing history to suit one's own goals. Want to falsify or "edit" someone's lineage? Make it so. The fact that Wikipedia edits can be easily reversed - while a royal prince's edits can't - is nonwithstanding; history is still being altered or filled in to suit someone's goals. And I can't think of a better Modern Age equivalent to Prince Edward's Fiat Lux than Wikipedia, save for various Presidents and Congresspeople presenting inaccuracies as truths to support their own political agendas (which aren't _nearly_ as amusing as taking jabs at Wikipedia). How about you?
Actually, at that time, only royalty had access to such records as they are the only ones with access to chroniclers. Basically, he is certified to be really learned when it comes to history.
@@blpalv15 same, the loyalty that his people showed here was crazy, especially because they were literally putting their lives on the line for him, not many can say they have friends that would go so far for them.
@@juliosantana3536 Good point. If the crowd surged forward Will's team could have got seriously hurt. They knew that and stood with him anyway. Nice storytelling
I dont know what gave Edward more pleasure. Knighting a man who he felt showed all the true qualities of a Knight, or telling Adehmar that Will is now a knight and has to face him.
A little bit of both and an added bonus: he knew Adehmar was a bitch in noble clothing. Edward was not only a knight but a royal and a crown prince to boot. As such, certain behaviors are expected of him and thus, could not show the world just how much of a bitch Adehmar is directly. William, as a knight and now an official peer to Adehmar not a royal, is not bound to the unwritten rules and behavior expected of royals.
His actions to show the Prince his bravery and then going at him in the tournament ends up being the moment his stars started to change. The lesson here is you never know how your action today can effect you later on.
Like accidentally killing your monarch... At least Jaime Lannister wanted to kill the King. For a knight it is career limiting to kill the reigning monarch!
@@mwnciboo Probably would have definitely sucked for William then. But since Edward survived and was a seasoned warrior like his warrior king father who said he had to earn his spurs when he was in mortal danger at the battle of Crecy. He respected William for taking that risk to give him a real fight and respect him as a knight before a prince. It was a gamble, you know it, I know it and the prince knew it. But since the prince survived he was able to pay out a jackpot.
I mean, realistically, so what? Its one knight who brings nothing but himself to the table. No men at arms, no supplies, no real connections to other nobility to garner further support. At best he gets someone he can rely on for a friendly joust from time to time. Yes having a truly loyal knight is good and all, but its hardly a game changer. I cant remember offhand who his girlfriend is when it comes to noble families so maybe if he married her he would have some sort of pull.
@@chrishubbard64 not just a friendly joust, he also was able to beat any knight he came across in swordsmanship so as a training partner or for training his troops he could have had a lot of use but true he'd bring no immediate power to his side.
@@Jayzl101 He could train his troops how to joust. Thats really his only skill. I honestly never liked the sword thing. I mean, being a self taught jousting prodigy was enough, but to make him a swordmaster as well? Also, its been a very long time, but wasnt a large part of his sword fighting victories the light and mobile armor his lady blacksmith made for him? Basically, he was able to move faster than most of the turtle knights and so was able to bang away at them easier.
@@chrishubbard64 have you heard of William Marshal? He was from a noble family and was knighted rightfully, yet he had nothing as his father didn't gave him nothing: no lands, no men and no gold. He started to gain power from tournaments like those in this movie, and eventually he achived so much power and influence that he even become regent of England for a while and saved the kingdom from the french crown. William Marshal died before Edward was born, he definitely knows Marshal's story and is likely that he saw some similarities between both Williams, so for Edward, William Tatcher is a investment to the future that could pay-off really well and have little risk attached to it. Edit: also, if I am not wrong, he stopped fighting in the sword's category before he got the lighter armour.
He owned that role. at 0:30 when he saw William charging out of the gate, after the disappointment comes the realization, then the joy and then the short, elated command, "LANCE!"...and then the charge as he follows his warrior's heart. A girl could fall in love in that moment.
well, there was like dozen kingdoms in Britain over the centuries, most of this kings had plenty of kids, legitimate or not. There like 99% probability that he really descend from some royal family.
Acting from horseback under cover of clunky armor: 0:22 - Sag in your saddle 0:30 - Utter joy when you get to call "LANCE!" Tiny little moments but he's completely sold me on the character at this point :)
This film was received with mixed reviews upon its release in 2001. It has since become quite a "modern classic". It holds a dear place in my library.........not only because it's a GREAT FILM, but, of course, because it is part of the legacy of its star, the gone-too-soon Heath Andrew Ledger. I LOVE this film, and always will recommend it.
Prince Edward respected William, even after it was revealed he was a thatcher's son. He remembered that he showed him respect, one knight to another, without giving a damn about his crown or title when he saw him charge toward him for that match. When Edward saw that his team, his friends and family, were willing to stand up to a mob for him? He knew that this man was a knight in every sense of the word. That he had dared to go against convention to change his stars regardless of his beginnings.
Yes, Edward got to know this man even before he learned of the fraud but he looked for the quality of men and not what a piece of paper or being born into the right family says because that has no value. He measured him by his actions, he knew that William could be merciful when the situation called for it but also be bold and courageous when it was time to be so. The final proof that there was a man of worth was what he said in his "Your men love you" line - Edward has found a true knight and just corrected a small clerical error afterwards ( while bending the rules himself with that little white lie). I love it so much in the end how he loses his composure when William wins, that was true admiration and respect.
I like how the boys promptly run to get ready even as the 2nd most powerful guy on all of england stands in front of them without even as much as a nod. Shows you how cool the prince is with casual interaction with people he deemed as worthy and wouldn't be bothered with formalities
Hey, I still miss Kevin "Ares" Smith. He was on his way to stardom (he was going to be in a Bruce Willis movie) when that accident in China took his life. His is one of only a few celebrity deaths that hurt my heart. So, I understand how you still miss Heath.
James Purefoy is one of my favorite actors. His movies, Ironclad and Solomon Kane, is two of my trusty pizza-movies, they never let me down if i want to watch an entertaining movie.
“You look for his shield on the list at once.” Is one of my favorite lines especially with that delivery. Anyone who has played sports knows what I mean cuz I don’t know how to explain it.
My big sister took me to see this movie when it came out. I don't remember how old I was. Maybe 10, maybe a little older. as a young child I didn't really use to like her a lot, now as adults she's one of the most important people in my life. I wouldn't call this movie a turning point in our relation, that only happened as I grew up. Or perhaps as we both did. Still it'll always be dear to me.
Wow a lovely thing to share. Movies can affect people in positive ways- they can strengthen their bond. This was the perfect movie for that! In my case, it is my little brother that has always been there for me, 100%. Hold your sweet sister close to your heart, always!
I friggen love this movie. Everything about it. The musical, the comedy, and the legit drama that you feel, at the moments that’s you’re meant to feel them. Wish they would’ve done a sequel. 😁🤷♂️
EVERYTIME the king says "Take a knee" I get a lump in my throat and 😭 in my eyes.It is all Will has ever wanted,his knighthood.Great actorial debut by Ledger and a horrific tragedy in the film world.He is sorely missed.
Perhaps of All Time! (I've no doubt that if there was a way to bring him to, let's say 1941 Africa, and give him knowledge of (then) modern warfare, that the Italians probably would have been defeated before Rommel got there!)
He got all the credits being a royal, clearly he wouldn't have achieved a fraction of all his accomplishments without his trusted and veteran advisers such as Chandos en Knollys. He was the rockstar tho :)
It's the scene at the stocks that made me love this movie so much. Wonderful script with a fantastic delivery by Mr Purefoy. Gets the eyes all misty every time.
Vocab Fact: The noun Accolade comes from this situation, meaning a man who had received the sword taps (often harder blows than shown here, if in harness) on the shoulder elevating one to knighthood.
“This is my word; and as such is beyond contestation.” There I said it; Now as the future King and a current war god who wants to say that I am a liar? I also love that he says that the fact that your people love you would normally be enough but YOU also tilt (means to step towards danger) when the smart/safe move is to step back.
A man can change his stars. I've carried they since I heard it when I was little. When someone asks do you have a fav movie? Yes, no contest. Miss ya heath, I'll do my best to keep you remembered.
What a cast, what a cast. Marcus Antonius from Rome King Robert Baratheon from GoT Vision from the Marvel Universe... Oberstgruppenfuhrer John Smith, from the Man in the High Castle All in service to Ser Ullrich from Liechtenstein...from Gelderland! (may he rest in peace, and never be forgotton) Honorable mention: Lord Mace Tyrell from GoT? Little John from Robin Hood - Prince of Thieves? Lydia Rodarte-Quayle from BB/BCS? They were right to add Queen's We Will Rock You to this movie! Perhaps even an understatement of a movie-theme
“Just as if I was one of those true knights you love so well, yes. What do you think a knight is for, girl? You think it's all taking favours from ladies and looking fine in gold plate? Knights are for killing...I killed my first man at twelve. I've lost count of how many I've killed since then. High lords with old names, fat rich men dressed in velvet, knights puffed up like bladders with their honours, yes, and women and children too - they're all meat, and I'm the butcher. Let them have their lands and their gods and their gold. Let them have their sers " ~ Sandor Clegane
Think the peasants revolt really went to Richard II's head. Making a mob stand down with your word alone when your a teenager probably aided in the massive nature of his ego.
1:20.........Edward....."You knew me....and still you rode?" William/Ulrich....."It's not in me to withdraw....." 1:50..........Edward and his men reveal themselves.........and the end of the film begins........... 2:14.............."What a pair we make......" I LOVE that. 3:35.............."If I may repay the kindness.............take a knee........" I have "something in my eye" then.......... 4:34..............."Can You Joust?"............At that moment, I'd imagine that William could FLY!!!!
*Edward hearing that Ulrich is actually some peasant named Will* "Damnit; he's the only guy willing to joust with me. That's it, I'm knighting the fucker myself".
Prince Edward "as such as beyond contestation" Well what I think is that you don't have to be A knight to compete in competition's as long as you are A great sword fighter you can compete in sword fighting.
True honor I wish this generation would understand. When you show compassion towards someone without expecting anything in return but they have the heart to return the favor.
I truly miss Heath Ledger as an Australian. He did us proud. All his efforts in the world of cinema were praised. That great big smile broke many a girls heart, and my heat too. We will never forget him.
Smart on Edwards part. Not only does he repay a kindness, but now he has a knight that is so loyal, he'd walk through fire if Edward asked.
well not now hes dead
A mark of a good potential king
It’s a movie.
@@mightloseit its a joke
@@bill2178lol cold but funny!
"We're English, we know who he is!"
For anyone that doesn't: Edward of Woodstock "The Black Prince" was a war hero during the 100 years war. He fought alongside his father, King Edward 3rd at Crecy. He won the battle of Poitiers against a French army 4x his size, and successfully campaigned in Spain to win back the Spanish Crown for a deposed Spanish King. While never commanding more then 10,000 troops at a time, Prince Edward defeated over 400,000 French and Spanish in his life. Considered the very pinnacle of English Chivalry, Prince Edward died before his father and never served as King.
He was also greatly feared by the the French for his brutality and scorched earth tactics and hated peasants
Cool.
@@tylermcneeley3136 Hated which peasants? French? English? Source or link, please, if not too much trouble. I will say that the average reader likely does not realize how set in stone were the stations of classes of people back then. There is an old poem about it: "The rich man at his castle; the poor man at his gate; God made them both high and low; each in his Estate."
@@sonofizzy Prince Edwards first ever solo military action was when he led an raid attack against the French countryside. He spread out his line and marched across Southern France burning, stealing, and butchering everything in his way. It's said in this attack he sacked over 50 villages. While brutal, this tactic wasn't unheard of and was ment to make the rich farmland not rich anymore, and wouldn't be rich again anytime soon.
Laden with booty, the Prince marched north to meet with an Allied English force, but when that force was defeated by King John of France, Edward turned west. The overwhelming French Army caught up with Edward at Poitiers but the Black Prince's longbows won the day. He returned home to England with a fortune in French gold, grain, and the captured King John of France himself.
"We're English, we know who he is!"
lol, couldn't resist.
"... And as such is beyond contestation"
The crowd is shocked by the word, because they don't know what it means
Lol you’re right. Whatever it means it must be bad. Lol
@@marcosc7375 it means can not be challenged
@daniel spittle it’s called also sarcasm. Lol
@@danielspittle7221 No shit now explain that to the crowd with no schooling.
Another fine way of saying "If you say otherwise, I dare you to test me".
"This is my word, And as such, is BEYOND CONTESTATION." One of my favorite movie quotes of all time.
I tried the line at home....not the results i wanted
@@BUILDSforDRIVING I am an English Prince and the result was the same
When he says "LANCE!" is my favorite movie quote of all time. It's just perfect in every way
He got such little screen time in this movie, but every word he spoke had the impact of a thousand cannons.
Ive heard this and seen this movie when I was a kid and this line I WILL NEVER FORGET (especially how he delivered it)
I love how Edward is like: "This man's knightly at heart. Fuck you guys I'm making him a knight, cause I'm the prince and I can do that. Don't like it tough."
“This is my word; and as such is beyond contestation.” 😎
@@crazyman8472 Heck yeah a much more princely way to phrase it.
Makes it sound like he just made that stuff up about William being noble descend and just said “I’m the prince so deal with it.”
@@SwordsmanMercenary Ir's also beyond contestation because of divine right. The ruling family was said to be chosen by God. To question the prince woukd be oi question God.
@@AdeptKing That’s just how he rolls. 😎
Fun fact :king Edward III and his sons partecipated at least one time at a tourney under false name and then revealed themselves at the end of the tourney, just to enjoy the experience.
Kids just want to be kids. 😂
It makes sense, you know that they spent their lives being deferred to by everyone who knew them. I bet it was always in the back of their minds, "How good am I really? Are my opponents holding back to avoid striking the prince? How can I PROVE I know how to fight, and do it well?"
@@chrishubbard64 Excellent information bro.
They can't join most tourneys because they might die
Jousting accidents can happen
@@thesenate5913 Tell that they cannot joust because they might die to Henry The Young King or his (and Richard Coeur De Leon’s other dead brother) brother Geoffrey, Duke of Brittany, or Henry VIII who almost died while jousting. Or a couple French kings, for that matter.
It was well known to be dangerous, which is why the Church tried to consider any tournament deaths as suicide.
I love how Edward specifically says "Your men love you, and if I knew nothing else about you that would be enough." Dude was straight up good to knight Will based on the strength of his bonds with Chaucer, Wart, etc.
I only wish he somehow recognized the girl who was his blacksmith as one of his men. I know that a lot of times "men" includes everyone in a team, but it would've been a nice touch. (not trying to be PC or anything)
@@Fletchman1313 Not trying to, but you are.
not the best argument to like a person. hitler was worshipped by his own men.
And ignored the woman who was right there with hammers ready to be mauled by a crowd just like the men.
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 Because of the power Hitler could give them. Otherwise it was out of fear of his wrath. This character had no such station or power. It would be obvious to anyone his "men" were there because they wanted to be.
Purefoy was perfectly cast. He commands this scene without taking anything away from Heath.
One of those actors who plays both good and dark well, he fell victim to not getting many good parts. It's a shame, he is really, really good.
He was so good in Rome playing Marcus Antonius.
@@TheMorred Exactly!
Pretty hard to act when tied down like that, but yes.
Totally agree. One of my favorite characters in the movie, by far.
"My personal historians have discovered that..." That's what happens when you successfully fabricated a claim in CK3
It's technically not Tyranny.
"My personal historians" is just olde Anglisch for "alternative facts" ;)
LOL.... his chancellor must have diplomacy at 35 pull off such a quick fabrication
Is Character creation possible for CK3 yet? Or at all?
@@johnmooney5829 Yes it is
the Joker saved by Marc Antony
Haha
With Steve the Pirate watching on.
@@mwnciboo arrrrrgh
@@AgnotologyTV And Vision records it all.
King Robert Baratheon too
James Purefoy is such an amazing actor. He was SUCH a great Prince Edward, but an even better Marc Antony in HBO's Rome.... Dude was such a great antony. One of my favorite actors ever.
although in reality Antony was kind of a treacherous sack of shit, just looking to gain power and wealth.
On the money.
His Marc Antony was brilliant
You should see him in Hap & Leonard. Talk about range...
Dont forget Solomon Kane.
@@meta1152 He was iconic in that film, that I think wasnt meant to become the cult fan fav that it did...Most recently saw him in A Discovery of Witches ad Philippe De Clarmont...He still got it, great presence as usual...One of thoe actors that should be bigger than they are.
"Are you mad? You knowingly endanger a member of the royal family?"
"He knowingly endangers himself."
That was a wonderful response....
And he would agree!
"We're English Jeff, we know who he is!"
Great line.
*Geoff
@@noorykorky5056 Always one in every crowd...
I love lines like that :) It's okay for one character to explain it to another Englishmen as long as one of them points out that it's unnecessary and the speaker is just being rhetorical, which is very lucky for half the audience who are non-Englishmen who do not totally know who the Black Prince is.
It's funny, because the guy saying that is American, and Will is an Aussie.
@@EGRJAlan Tudyk... He's hilarious in resident alien. Have you seen it?
When the black prince says "I shall have your opponent informed of it" there is this very distinct undertone of "You WILL kick ass in my name or I will know why" It is one of the most inspiring looks of a leader to someone he knows for a fact has the heart to go to the end. I doubt that Edward would ever find a more loyal man than william to serve him.
Yesssss exactly!
Why do dumbasses make dumbass comments like this? We don’t need you to translate for us douchebag.
The way William's breath stutters after Edward says "Take a knee" makes me tear up everytime. It's like he knows what the Prince is hinting at but he can't quite believe it.
If you notice, he doesn’t even move until the prince nods to let him know he really means it
I think he though he was going to chop his head off for mercy. Wasn't that an honorable way to die back then? So that he wasn't brutally killed by the crowd.
William showed respect and mercy to Edward when he let him ride out his last match (rather than withdraw) and keep his honor "intact." But, also showed fearlessness, a warrior's spirit, and great resolve when he rode knowing who Edward was. Thus, he proved himself to be a knight.
And Edward respected him for it
Adamar must have been furious to hear that he would have to face Thatcher, as he called him, after all. When he learns that it was mercy, which he said was a weakness, saved Thatcher from shame, must have made him more angry.
"This is my word, and as such is beyond contestation" is one of my favourite lines from the entire movie and I'm not entirely sure why. I think the delivery is just spot-on.
"I'm pulling rank, you can go fark yourself, and anyone who wants to argue can do so with the Crown & Court. Fight me. Beyotch."
@@robinfro The modern equivalent 😂
Couple people have said the same, I put that on Purefoy. Lesser actor wouldn't have gotten the emphasis right and messed up the gravitas.
@@brew1116 or vis versa
The crowd cheering at the end, after jeering William while he was in the stocks only moments before, always reminds me forcefully of a quote from Oliver Cromwell:
_"Do not trust to the cheering, for those very persons would shout as much if you and I were going to be hanged."_
In a deleted scene it was Geoff who had the crowd cheering before Edward shows himself. That's why the old lady was waving her fist. The crowd was chanting "William! William" at that point. I guess that in editing they decided that this scene was more powerful.
@@Rockhound6165 I saw an alternate ending where Geoffrey Chaucer used his elegant words to calm the crowd. He was hit with a cabbage and said, "Mother? Is that you? That must be you, I could recognize your cooking anywhere." I also found out from reading, that the Real Geoffrey Chaucer, supposedly took a break in writing, around the timeframe this movie was to emulate.
Robert Beratheon, the one true king, also hiding amongst the lowborn
Ultron could have settled things quickly if he wanted to, along with K2SO.
Oh yes.... I remember now.... last time I seen Beratheon he was doing the Full Monty 🤫🤫🤫
Mace Tyrell was singing in the church 🤣
With Wash and Vision for company
he seems way more happy
"But you also tilt when you should have withdrawn. And that is knightly to." Honor and Respect above all else. He EARNED not born in the title of Knight.
Prince Edward was a total badass, even at a young age and was so up until his death. England lost a potentially great king when he died before his father.
Small detail I really like here. He has a scar under one of his eyes, which would match up with the scars he got after being shot in the face with a longbow while fighting Welsh rebels in his youth, a battle where he carried on fighting, the whole day with an arrow sticking out of his face before undergoing complex surgery to remove said arrow.
Being badass doesn’t make a great leader... and
Best king England never had
@@weldonwin Are you sure? I would say that your whole claiming belongs to Henry V who got shot in the face with arrow in his youth and get his famous scar.
Indeed, he would have been a great king.
"My personal historians have found" is just an old school version of editing Wikipedia.
Except for the fact he is the Prince of England and answers only to his father the King.
@@smk3390 ...which has _what_ to do with Matt McDonald's comment? Wikipedia _doesn't_ answer to King Edward III? Not much does nowadays.
@@BloodyBay Okay ill explain this, he just said Old school
@@smk3390 But that doesn't take away from Matt's comparison in regards to editing history to suit one's own goals. Want to falsify or "edit" someone's lineage? Make it so. The fact that Wikipedia edits can be easily reversed - while a royal prince's edits can't - is nonwithstanding; history is still being altered or filled in to suit someone's goals.
And I can't think of a better Modern Age equivalent to Prince Edward's Fiat Lux than Wikipedia, save for various Presidents and Congresspeople presenting inaccuracies as truths to support their own political agendas (which aren't _nearly_ as amusing as taking jabs at Wikipedia). How about you?
Actually, at that time, only royalty had access to such records as they are the only ones with access to chroniclers. Basically, he is certified to be really learned when it comes to history.
Your men love You
.If I knew Nothing else about you,
that would be Enough
The mark of a TRUE leader
That line always gets to me.
But you also tilt when you should withdraw...and that is knightly too.
@@blpalv15 same, the loyalty that his people showed here was crazy, especially because they were literally putting their lives on the line for him, not many can say they have friends that would go so far for them.
@@juliosantana3536 Good point. If the crowd surged forward Will's team could have got seriously hurt. They knew that and stood with him anyway. Nice storytelling
I dont know what gave Edward more pleasure. Knighting a man who he felt showed all the true qualities of a Knight, or telling Adehmar that Will is now a knight and has to face him.
A little bit of both and an added bonus: he knew Adehmar was a bitch in noble clothing. Edward was not only a knight but a royal and a crown prince to boot. As such, certain behaviors are expected of him and thus, could not show the world just how much of a bitch Adehmar is directly. William, as a knight and now an official peer to Adehmar not a royal, is not bound to the unwritten rules and behavior expected of royals.
His actions to show the Prince his bravery and then going at him in the tournament ends up being the moment his stars started to change. The lesson here is you never know how your action today can effect you later on.
YESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Like accidentally killing your monarch... At least Jaime Lannister wanted to kill the King. For a knight it is career limiting to kill the reigning monarch!
I thought the lesson was "fake it till you make it"
@@mwnciboo Probably would have definitely sucked for William then. But since Edward survived and was a seasoned warrior like his warrior king father who said he had to earn his spurs when he was in mortal danger at the battle of Crecy. He respected William for taking that risk to give him a real fight and respect him as a knight before a prince. It was a gamble, you know it, I know it and the prince knew it. But since the prince survived he was able to pay out a jackpot.
Don't forget when Will shows mercy to him instead of finishing him, the first time they meet. It's a great but often overlooked scene.
This movie contains choreographed dance scenes to modern music yet contains within a heartwarming story with a wonderful message. Best of both worlds.
Craig Perkey ....Means????
Personally, I found the modern music in this context quite jarring.
@@alainarchambault2331 That was the point.
@@adamwsaxe Which makes it a lousy "Hollywood" film then.
Based loosely on the life of Sir William Marshal, arguably the greatest knight that ever lived
"this is my word, and as such is beyond contestation"
badass way of saying: "cause i said so, deal with it"
Basically.... I said so bitch.
Honestly, hell of a move on Edwards part, dude has a badass by his side who's loyalty to him will be unshakeable.
I mean, realistically, so what? Its one knight who brings nothing but himself to the table. No men at arms, no supplies, no real connections to other nobility to garner further support. At best he gets someone he can rely on for a friendly joust from time to time. Yes having a truly loyal knight is good and all, but its hardly a game changer. I cant remember offhand who his girlfriend is when it comes to noble families so maybe if he married her he would have some sort of pull.
@@chrishubbard64 not just a friendly joust, he also was able to beat any knight he came across in swordsmanship so as a training partner or for training his troops he could have had a lot of use but true he'd bring no immediate power to his side.
@@Jayzl101 He could train his troops how to joust. Thats really his only skill. I honestly never liked the sword thing. I mean, being a self taught jousting prodigy was enough, but to make him a swordmaster as well? Also, its been a very long time, but wasnt a large part of his sword fighting victories the light and mobile armor his lady blacksmith made for him? Basically, he was able to move faster than most of the turtle knights and so was able to bang away at them easier.
@@chrishubbard64 have you heard of William Marshal? He was from a noble family and was knighted rightfully, yet he had nothing as his father didn't gave him nothing: no lands, no men and no gold. He started to gain power from tournaments like those in this movie, and eventually he achived so much power and influence that he even become regent of England for a while and saved the kingdom from the french crown.
William Marshal died before Edward was born, he definitely knows Marshal's story and is likely that he saw some similarities between both Williams, so for Edward, William Tatcher is a investment to the future that could pay-off really well and have little risk attached to it.
Edit: also, if I am not wrong, he stopped fighting in the sword's category before he got the lighter armour.
@@chrishubbard64: Found the killjoy
This is how a Badass prince can say "Because I said so!"
The pride that you could see in his friend's faces seeing their friend's dream come true in front of them is amazing.
Stephen Maturin finally sees his friend Jack Aubrey named post captain. Oh, wait....
Good Lord, James Purefoy is so gorgeous, especially in that coat! 😍
James Purefoy is JUST GORGEOUS..end of :)
He owned that role. at 0:30 when he saw William charging out of the gate, after the disappointment comes the realization, then the joy and then the short, elated command, "LANCE!"...and then the charge as he follows his warrior's heart. A girl could fall in love in that moment.
@@karazor-el6085 I fell in love with him in Solomon Kane which is such an underrated film.
Um yea! He's beautiful!! 61 year old lady here..
"He is descended from an ancient royal line"
I need to get someone to dovetail this guy into a royal family tree somewhere!
Probably set it in motion as soon as he heard what happened so that the ink would be dry when he announced it.
Theres plenty of time to fabricate something as theres not going to be anyone saying otherwise for quite a while.
well, there was like dozen kingdoms in Britain over the centuries, most of this kings had plenty of kids, legitimate or not. There like 99% probability that he really descend from some royal family.
if you dig deep enough we all have blue blood ;)
Purefoy had such little screen time in this movie, but every word he spoke carried the intensity of a thousand cannons.
James is like that. He has a small role in Jack Carter as well but he easily steals the show.
Acting from horseback under cover of clunky armor:
0:22 - Sag in your saddle
0:30 - Utter joy when you get to call "LANCE!"
Tiny little moments but he's completely sold me on the character at this point :)
yeah basically 0:25 "shit,no this again." and 0:34 "FINALLY! LET´S HAVE SOME FUN!"
“LANCE!” is done so well. Glad to see others appreciate it.
Such an underrated movie. It's actually brilliant and amazing.
"Take a knee" is and always gives me shivers! Uf-Dah
Can we all appreciate how amazingly well done this movie was. And we must appreciate how absolutely beautiful the woman that made his armor is.
Yes, I prefer her to William's love interest, in beauty & personality.
One of these rare movies you can watch several time, and hope it could be erased from your memory before each watching to fully enjoy it again.
This film was received with mixed reviews upon its release in 2001. It has since become quite a "modern classic". It holds a dear place in my library.........not only because it's a GREAT FILM, but, of course, because it is part of the legacy of its star, the gone-too-soon Heath Andrew Ledger. I LOVE this film, and always will recommend it.
When I found out he was to be Joker I knew he was gonna kill that shit. Batman shall be weighed, measured and found wanting!
1 of the best that's gorgeous sure
Prince Edward respected William, even after it was revealed he was a thatcher's son. He remembered that he showed him respect, one knight to another, without giving a damn about his crown or title when he saw him charge toward him for that match.
When Edward saw that his team, his friends and family, were willing to stand up to a mob for him? He knew that this man was a knight in every sense of the word. That he had dared to go against convention to change his stars regardless of his beginnings.
Yes, Edward got to know this man even before he learned of the fraud but he looked for the quality of men and not what a piece of paper or being born into the right family says because that has no value.
He measured him by his actions, he knew that William could be merciful when the situation called for it but also be bold and courageous when it was time to be so. The final proof that there was a man of worth was what he said in his "Your men love you" line - Edward has found a true knight and just corrected a small clerical error afterwards ( while bending the rules himself with that little white lie).
I love it so much in the end how he loses his composure when William wins, that was true admiration and respect.
@@FPAlpha Amen. You illustrated this perfectly. Well done.
I like how the boys promptly run to get ready even as the 2nd most powerful guy on all of england stands in front of them without even as much as a nod. Shows you how cool the prince is with casual interaction with people he deemed as worthy and wouldn't be bothered with formalities
" ... you also tilt when you should withdraw... and that is knightly, too."
I know it sounds weird but I miss him. We never really got to know him, just that he came a long way as an actor and then he was gone... Sad face.
Hey, I still miss Kevin "Ares" Smith. He was on his way to stardom (he was going to be in a Bruce Willis movie) when that accident in China took his life. His is one of only a few celebrity deaths that hurt my heart. So, I understand how you still miss Heath.
"Your men love you and if I knew nothing else about you that would be enough but you also tilt when you should withdraw..and that is knightly too."
Exactly!
James Purefoy is one of my favorite actors. His movies, Ironclad and Solomon Kane, is two of my trusty pizza-movies, they never let me down if i want to watch an entertaining movie.
His Antony in HBO's Rome is the best in history.
A movie concept that should not have worked turned out to be one of the finest movies ever made!!
Very very true.
Love the bro man relationship between these 2 ☺
Maybe one of the most underrated movies ever. God I love this film
“You look for his shield on the list at once.” Is one of my favorite lines especially with that delivery. Anyone who has played sports knows what I mean cuz I don’t know how to explain it.
"My personal historians have discovered" is the medieval counterpart of
Source: "Dude, trust me!"
or the medieval equivalent of today's covid84 fact checkers
sorry for going dark
couldn't resist :3
My big sister took me to see this movie when it came out. I don't remember how old I was. Maybe 10, maybe a little older. as a young child I didn't really use to like her a lot, now as adults she's one of the most important people in my life. I wouldn't call this movie a turning point in our relation, that only happened as I grew up. Or perhaps as we both did. Still it'll always be dear to me.
Wow a lovely thing to share. Movies can affect people in positive ways- they can strengthen their bond. This was the perfect movie for that!
In my case, it is my little brother that has always been there for me, 100%. Hold your sweet sister close to your heart, always!
I miss Heath Ledger. What an actor. And 5his is a wonderful movie. Lots of fun.
I friggen love this movie. Everything about it. The musical, the comedy, and the legit drama that you feel, at the moments that’s you’re meant to feel them. Wish they would’ve done a sequel. 😁🤷♂️
Prince Edward takes off his helmet and the crowd gasps because he is HOT!
Still gives me chills to see the King reveal himself, after all these years. Rip Heath Ledger
the Prince. he literally says "my father the king"
EVERYTIME the king says "Take a knee" I get a lump in my throat and 😭 in my eyes.It is all Will has ever wanted,his knighthood.Great actorial debut by Ledger and a horrific tragedy in the film world.He is sorely missed.
Most definitely
And when he reunited w/his father."And has he come home?"
"Yes".
"Oh,muh boy!"
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The Prince of Wales actually. Edward III, his father was the King at the time.
“This is my word…and as such is BEYOND CONTESTATION!”…. I’m dying to find the right time to use this one at work.
The Black Prince - one of the best British commanders of his time.
Perhaps of All Time! (I've no doubt that if there was a way to bring him to, let's say 1941 Africa, and give him knowledge of (then) modern warfare, that the Italians probably would have been defeated before Rommel got there!)
He got all the credits being a royal, clearly he wouldn't have achieved a fraction of all his accomplishments without his trusted and veteran advisers such as Chandos en Knollys. He was the rockstar tho :)
The Black Prince was the best king England never had.
he was never king. he died befor his father
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_the_Black_Prince
@@BloodAngel500 I know, that's what I meant when I said "never had."
Haha I had to reread it human mind just automatically misreads it
@@CraftySouthpaw lol the dude was so full of himself too. Linking wiki and shit.
It's the scene at the stocks that made me love this movie so much. Wonderful script with a fantastic delivery by Mr Purefoy. Gets the eyes all misty every time.
Vocab Fact: The noun Accolade comes from this situation, meaning a man who had received the sword taps (often harder blows than shown here, if in harness) on the shoulder elevating one to knighthood.
Moral of the story: It's always good to have friends in high places!
James Purefoy was brilliant as Mark Antony in 'Rome' bt he's dam' good here too.
He was the absolute best part of Rome
@@lujavjuarbe Have you seen him in 'Ironclad'?
@@lujavjuarbe have you seen him in season 2 of A Discovery of Witches?
@@alondraperez-ramirez8363 Have you seen him in Sharpe's Sword?
@@billwithers7457 Have you seen him in Bad Blood with Sean Bean?
Great casting , this film made me laugh but some scenes made me cry, this being one. Super film
GEM of a movie..so under rated..god damn watch it every time its on TV..counts over 50 now
“This is my word; and as such is beyond contestation.”
There I said it; Now as the future King and a current war god who wants to say that I am a liar?
I also love that he says that the fact that your people love you would normally be enough but YOU
also tilt (means to step towards danger) when the smart/safe move is to step back.
After many years and seeing this over and over, I still wonder why it brings tears to my eyes,
It has a great cast and atory
The King was wise in his actions. He saw a kindred spirit and awarded him with the title he was worthy of.
Two best scenes in the whole movie. Glad they put them together in this clip.
A man can change his stars. I've carried they since I heard it when I was little. When someone asks do you have a fav movie? Yes, no contest. Miss ya heath, I'll do my best to keep you remembered.
"I shall have your opponent informed of it" = "I'm going to tell that asshole you're coming to kick his ass, with my blessings".
What a cast, what a cast.
Marcus Antonius from Rome
King Robert Baratheon from GoT
Vision from the Marvel Universe...
Oberstgruppenfuhrer John Smith, from the Man in the High Castle
All in service to Ser Ullrich from Liechtenstein...from Gelderland! (may he rest in peace, and never be forgotton)
Honorable mention: Lord Mace Tyrell from GoT?
Little John from Robin Hood - Prince of Thieves?
Lydia Rodarte-Quayle from BB/BCS?
They were right to add Queen's We Will Rock You to this movie!
Perhaps even an understatement of a movie-theme
I KNEW I HAS SEEN WILLIAM SOMEWHERE ELSE
Door, from Neverwhere....
Solomon Kane, also.
In the back someone yells "Do you have Prince Edward in a can? Well you'd better let him out!"
He's immediately promoted to Jester.
Girlfriend: Tell me "when".
Me: It's not in me to withdraw...
Girlfriend: No, it’s not in you, it’s in me. So withdraw.
@@FerroMancer Fine, but it's going in your eye...
Ew
@@FerroMancer yyeessss
“Just as if I was one of those true knights you love so well, yes. What do you think a knight is for, girl? You think it's all taking favours from ladies and looking fine in gold plate? Knights are for killing...I killed my first man at twelve. I've lost count of how many I've killed since then. High lords with old names, fat rich men dressed in velvet, knights puffed up like bladders with their honours, yes, and women and children too - they're all meat, and I'm the butcher. Let them have their lands and their gods and their gold. Let them have their sers " ~ Sandor Clegane
Killed first man at 12.
Barbarian character from a RPG -- "In my tribe we train our daughters ro kill orcs by the age of 6."
“This is my word, and as such is beyond contestation”
Translation: I’m the prince, bitches. Deal with it
I really enjoyed this movie when it first came out. Till this day, I still think about what movies Heath would’ve done.
This movie is in my top 10 movies ever. Heath Ledger is my favourite actor ever. Miss this guy
Too bad the Black Prince never became King. He died a year before his father. about 18 or 19 years after the events in this film.
worry not, king geoffrey did a fun job,i mean king richard II....richard was what i meant. XD
He would have been great
Would Richard II have been better as king if he ascended as an adult instead of at age 14?
@@nrkgalt he was pretty neglected by his parents that's something which stays forever
Think the peasants revolt really went to Richard II's head. Making a mob stand down with your word alone when your a teenager probably aided in the massive nature of his ego.
1:20.........Edward....."You knew me....and still you rode?" William/Ulrich....."It's not in me to withdraw....."
1:50..........Edward and his men reveal themselves.........and the end of the film begins...........
2:14.............."What a pair we make......" I LOVE that.
3:35.............."If I may repay the kindness.............take a knee........" I have "something in my eye" then..........
4:34..............."Can You Joust?"............At that moment, I'd imagine that William could FLY!!!!
I love this film..vastly underated
Mr Ledger, gone far to soon, I don’t care what people have to say about this movie, I think it’s a classic!
I would’ve been the worst extra. “What’s contestation mean?!”
@somebody No, I'm saying that's what I would've yelled.
FORMER extra.
If I was an extra. I'd be talking smack in the background. "... beyond contestation." I would be saying.... Oh no he didn't. Shit just got real...
I loved how this movie was loved or hated when it released by now has a 5 star rating on Amazon prime. That's not easy
Purefoy is the most underrated actor of our generation.
My favorite scene in this awesome movie.
*Edward hearing that Ulrich is actually some peasant named Will*
"Damnit; he's the only guy willing to joust with me. That's it, I'm knighting the fucker myself".
Edward the Black Prince is 2 of Diamonds ♦♦Happy Birthday to Edward the Black Prince REST IN POWER Blessings and HUGS! 👑💜
Real always recognizes real
The gift of true friendship is unpayable.
The ending of this, where Edward knights William........around 3:30......it still makes me "have a little something in my eye......"
Once in my lifetime I wanna say to someone this is my word, and as such is beyond contestation.
@3:22-3:29 One of my favorite lines.
"I'm obviously lying to your faces and none of you bastards are gonna say a GODDAMN THING." Yeah it's a great line :D
Prince Edward "as such as beyond contestation"
Well what I think is that you don't have to be A knight to compete in competition's as long as you are A great sword fighter you can compete in sword fighting.
That is the ultimate goal. To be that badass you can say that, and it’s fact.
True honor I wish this generation would understand. When you show compassion towards someone without expecting anything in return but they have the heart to return the favor.
"what a pair we make" Most Epic line
one of my favorite movies ever still to this day
Love this movie. RIP Heath Ledger.
William in the stocks. James Purefoy utters the best lines in a movie, ever!
When he reveals himself all of the people would have bent the knee, including his friends. That would have made this part even better.
I truly miss Heath Ledger as an Australian. He did us proud. All his efforts in the world of cinema were praised. That great big smile broke many a girls heart, and my heat too. We will never forget him.