Improve Your Tuning & Intonation On Fretless Bass

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  • čas přidán 17. 01. 2022
  • Hey there, friends and neighbours. Here's a fantastic exercise for all you fretless bass players out there. It's an exercise I adapted from Turkish master guitarist Cenk Erdogan. I think you're going to enjoy it.
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  • @pizzicatoprod
    @pizzicatoprod Před 2 lety +41

    Once comfortable with exercise, try it with the lights out! Seriously. I started playing the bass in school, as a kid. Upright bass. I stood on a stool so I could reach the fretboard. For intonation practice my teacher told me to turn off the lights in the room and force myself to ~listen~ to what I was playing, not ~watch~ what I was playing. I thought he was crazy, but it worked for me. My key for playing fretless is listening/ear and muscle memory.

  • @petershaughnessy9699
    @petershaughnessy9699 Před 2 lety +14

    Thank you for the inviting and erudite lessons. I’m always inspired to pick up my bass.

    • @richbrownbass
      @richbrownbass  Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you so much for the very high praise, Peter. That means a lot.

  • @mipabass
    @mipabass Před 2 lety +3

    👍 Even you could not resist to add a sprinkle of vibrato on the last note of the sequence 😀

    • @richbrownbass
      @richbrownbass  Před 2 lety +5

      I know, right? But it sounds so goooood! lol!

    • @EvertAlbers
      @EvertAlbers Před 9 měsíci

      Vibratos in G's do not count, according to the small print.

  • @nickpicc
    @nickpicc Před 2 lety +1

    Cenk is awesome, been following him for awhile.
    Thanks for the lesson

  • @GERALDOuncleG
    @GERALDOuncleG Před 9 měsíci +2

    My fretless bass is coming after tomorrow, i play fretted bass for 2 years just for fun, I loved your simple tips, and others as well from experiencies shared by other fellow bassists on this video's comments.

  • @justinfedenyszen7049
    @justinfedenyszen7049 Před rokem

    As always, excellent content Rich. Thank you so much! Justin

  • @johnharreld4875
    @johnharreld4875 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks so much for this, Rich! I'm an intermediate guitarist and a beginner on several other fretted instruments (including electric bass), but my first violin arrives today. It'll be another adventure and so much for relying on frets. As you adapted this exercise from guitar to bass, I'm going to adapt it from bass to violin! We'll see how that goes.

  • @RomainMadar
    @RomainMadar Před 2 lety +1

    Hey! I have started to play fretless 5 month ago, and your video is super useful! Just subscribed😎! Cheers from France 🍻

  • @philippedudule6727
    @philippedudule6727 Před 8 měsíci

    Thank you, you're so right !...

  • @garethonbass
    @garethonbass Před 2 lety +5

    Such a good lesson - thank you so much Rich. I've found this exercise to be so helpful with intonation - it's like a laser focus for the ears. I kept working it with arpeggios in the same fashion, and then also in reverse, starting at B past the G harmonic on the G string and then going low. And it also works great on upright. A righteous exercise.

  • @mingram008
    @mingram008 Před 2 lety +1

    Just found you on the tubes. Enjoying your lessons, your making the connection to the brain. There is a LOT of excellent instruction out there but you have to find that way to connect to get the most of it. Will be following. Thank you!

  • @firefighterps2
    @firefighterps2 Před rokem

    What a gift to find this lesson, and Mr Rich Brown. I'm fretless only, and a working trombonist. Thought it would be easy to switch from the horn to the bass. Yeah right!
    Thank you sir.

  • @cruzois52
    @cruzois52 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks!

  • @Synequanon
    @Synequanon Před 2 lety

    Amazing Rich ! Thank you a ton, this is so useful and fun. And never lose your sense of humour. :)

  • @alfredsmith6381
    @alfredsmith6381 Před 2 lety

    Just starting on fretless and eub after some 30 years, but not playing as much as I should because I didn't know what to use as a point of reference. This answers that. Thank you!

  • @McThumpenstein
    @McThumpenstein Před 9 měsíci

    Great info, great video! I love your content as you're one of the few six-string players making instructional videos, and I'm going to implement this on my six-string fretless immediately. Please keep up the great work!

  • @DavideAfzal
    @DavideAfzal Před 2 lety +4

    Love this exercise Rich(as well all the other lessons you share with us), thank you so much!!
    Can you give us more advices about fretless bass? 🙏🏼🙌🏼🔥

  • @NicleT
    @NicleT Před 2 měsíci

    What a great exercise! Thank you Sir.

  • @WCruttenden
    @WCruttenden Před 2 lety +1

    I love playing fretless and this exercise is really helpful. I'm off to check out Cenk Erdogan too.

  • @IvanovBR
    @IvanovBR Před 6 měsíci

    great lesson!

  • @OffiongEniang
    @OffiongEniang Před 6 měsíci +1

    That bass sounds so good❤

  • @kevmac1230
    @kevmac1230 Před 2 lety

    Thanks, you're right about there not being a lot of fretless bass lessons.

  • @PastorFunK
    @PastorFunK Před 2 lety

    Bout to get a fretless soon! I started on a Yamaha fretless P-Bass when I was 15! This is making me wanna go back to my roots!! Great lesson!!

  • @jazzbrew68
    @jazzbrew68 Před 2 lety

    Wonderful stuff Rich. I love this.

    • @richbrownbass
      @richbrownbass  Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you, my brother. Nice to hear from you!

  • @billyjeffersoniv4344
    @billyjeffersoniv4344 Před 10 měsíci

    Brother, that is such great advice

  • @edwinjacobellis4852
    @edwinjacobellis4852 Před rokem

    This really is a great exercise

  • @philipmcadam5339
    @philipmcadam5339 Před 2 lety

    Oh great! Thanks Rich, now I need to go out and get a fretless bass. Peace and love.

  • @trav1th3rabb1
    @trav1th3rabb1 Před 3 měsíci

    Just purchased a fretless 6 string and there’s not many videos on those, but this is a great exercise I can still do. Very nice.

  • @mjusick2914
    @mjusick2914 Před 8 měsíci

    Thanks for the video! A good exercise for me as a fretless beginner.
    And also thank you very much for recommending Cenk Erdogan, he is really a great musician!

  • @ashenpall
    @ashenpall Před rokem

    Just ordered my first fretless and I have a feeling this exercise is going to be very helpful.

  • @normanw.5725
    @normanw.5725 Před 2 lety

    I love your sense of humor. You really made me laugh and i thank you for that! Much needed...

    • @richbrownbass
      @richbrownbass  Před 2 lety

      My pleasure, Norman. Thank you very much for watching.

  • @kamerkayali
    @kamerkayali Před rokem

    love fretless from Turkey.

  • @honkytonkdragon
    @honkytonkdragon Před 2 měsíci

    I've got a fretless violin bass coming in a few weeks, I'm sure this exercise will get a lot of use, thanks!

  • @russellf4114
    @russellf4114 Před 2 lety +1

    I am trying to be fluent on the fretless. I have a 6-string fretless and fretted (it's easier for me because my pinky finger is short) I needed this sooooooo much!!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ This is badass!!! Thank you and Cenk Erdogan!!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

    • @richbrownbass
      @richbrownbass  Před 2 lety +2

      Thank you so much, brother Russell. I always appreciate you tuning in and sharing your thoughts. 🙏🏾❤️

    • @svenjansen2134
      @svenjansen2134 Před rokem

      Cenk is an amazing player and teacher.

  • @witherwillowsounds3935
    @witherwillowsounds3935 Před 2 lety +1

    AWWWWWYEAH!!! More fretless stuff, please!
    There's a lot of fretless vids, but not a lot of great ones.

  • @jonjimenez9612
    @jonjimenez9612 Před 2 lety +5

    You played some vibrato.😀

    • @richbrownbass
      @richbrownbass  Před 2 lety +6

      Lol! Sometimes that little finger can't help its darn self.

    • @jonjimenez9612
      @jonjimenez9612 Před 2 lety

      I hear you. Loving your videos. You’re a great teacher.

  • @M2Mil7er
    @M2Mil7er Před 2 lety +1

    There's loads of drones available on CZcams. Sitar drones are fun for Fretless. I use an EHX Freeze pedal to sample any note / chord on my fretless that I want to drone, which helps too. Thanks Mr Brown!

    • @richbrownbass
      @richbrownbass  Před 2 lety

      Thank you, MrMiller! That's a pro tip.

    • @geofflb6537
      @geofflb6537 Před rokem

      Another vote for the Freeze pedal, making sure with a tuner that the drone note is in tune. I also picked up a tip, to use the 5th of the scale as the drone, ie G in the key of C. Seems to work for me.

  • @martinheath5947
    @martinheath5947 Před 2 lety

    Nice lesson and really good tips. A drone works well for me a couple of octaves higher than the root :)

  • @studioundo
    @studioundo Před 2 lety +4

    Hi Rich ; Thank you for your kind words buddy you made my day . When I heard the ideas about my music and when it comes from a qualified pro musician like you It is super motivating. Hope to meet in person and play as soon as possible

    • @richbrownbass
      @richbrownbass  Před 2 lety

      Thank you for being such an inspiration, my brother. I hope we do get the chance to play soon. All the best to you and yours, Cenk. In the meantime, I'm still learning how to properly play the carpma. 😊

  • @charleskleesattel6477
    @charleskleesattel6477 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for a fine video. I would mention that the last exercise, playing to the recorded piano scale, is by far the more valuable lesson. While playing scales and melodic fragments in tune is a good practice, the reality of fretless playing is matching pitches. Rarely will we be playing in a fretless bass guitar in an ensemble of other pitch adjustable instruments. Keyboards and guitars will make up the most of it, and while horns, vocalists and strings are adjustable, they too are listening to the non-adjustable instruments.
    You might consider a video on using the drones in tuners, or looping pedals, or how to make your own backing tracks with apps like iReal Pro or Band-in-a-Box. Many people might have access to a DAW or even a music writing program that has playback. If so they could create their own scale and chord sequences as play alongs. Matching pitches is where its at.
    Thanks again, I enjoy your videos and your approach to teaching.

  • @abrajmek_zalilov
    @abrajmek_zalilov Před 2 lety

    Oh, I see, Cenk Erdogan. Yes, man! It is he, who inspired me to buy instrument for make fretless guitar from it and begin learning how to play fretless guitar couple of months ago. But I've not heard exercise from Cenk...

  • @markfoster_mkfbass
    @markfoster_mkfbass Před 2 lety

    Thanks Cenk and Rich! I lubs dis shit😂 For real. More fretless stuff, please!😉👊🏽
    ETA Other intonation stuff: a variety of exercises using open strings as a reference tone; octaves across 2 strings or 3 strings;
    chromatic scales ascending and descending one string from open string (lowest) to highest available note...and so on...
    And, yes, drones are awesome to play with, too😉👍🏾🤗
    ETA # 2 Brownstone t-shirts?

  • @mattatsu
    @mattatsu Před 2 lety

    Great video and lesson! I just subscribed to your channel and looking forward to learning more.
    Quick question: I’m assuming that fretless is a custom? It’s really beautiful. I’d love something like that.

  • @bassomatic6055
    @bassomatic6055 Před 2 lety

    As someone who tends to flail a bit on the double bass, I can stress the idea of using open strings to check your tuning as you do this exercise. Obviously octaves, but 5ths and even 3rds can work. It's good ear training too.

  • @scienceofobliteration2671

    you know, rich, there's a ****-ton of blokes out there pouring some wisdom to suck up, but out of all of them, I'd rather prefer to watch you. just because your videos focus on content, not flashy editing, video settings and the likes. pls, even if you plan on "improving that", don't do it, keep your videos exactly like this! much love man! :)

    • @richbrownbass
      @richbrownbass  Před 2 lety

      Much love, and thank you so much for your very kind words. 🙏🏾❤️

  • @armchairzen
    @armchairzen Před 4 měsíci

    I caught the vibrato, BTW. p.s.: great drill

  • @kenshorley
    @kenshorley Před 2 lety +1

    "All you have to do is play the bass in tune. End of lesson!" 🤣 2:36

  • @jamalan7417
    @jamalan7417 Před rokem

    what bass is that, sounds amaze !

  • @bassadelica
    @bassadelica Před rokem +1

    Gold. 🤛 we see you vibrato though!😂

  • @yankalesegal5800
    @yankalesegal5800 Před rokem

    Amazing!! What bass is it youre playing? Is it Saffran?

  • @ermoikavalko8705
    @ermoikavalko8705 Před 2 lety

    Thanks! Could swear I spotted a vibrato or two 😬😁😂

  • @doyi984
    @doyi984 Před 2 lety

    Similar to exercises on Chinese violin where we don't have that extra violin's E string and have to glide all the way up for the highs. I play until I'm a sixth/7th away from the open string and come back down.

  • @BrianLatimersPage
    @BrianLatimersPage Před 2 lety

    2:55 "For many of you this is going to be the open E. As it is for me...for once." Don't give up that 6-string, Rich. Ever. 😀
    I just started learning "Give Blood" by Pete Townsend. Pino Palladino on fretless bass. Such a great sounding instrument.

  • @kevmac1230
    @kevmac1230 Před rokem

    There's a lot of fretless exercises but most are for intonation.There has to be more to offer.

  • @user-qu3hw1wp7w
    @user-qu3hw1wp7w Před 2 lety

    👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @travisreed5965
    @travisreed5965 Před 2 lety +2

    What A Sound - Would Be Interested In Hear You Noodle Around On That Beauty For A Few Minutes - No Lesson, Just A Simply Jam Solo Style - Stay Rowdy
    Go Team Human,
    Cheers

    • @richbrownbass
      @richbrownbass  Před 2 lety +1

      I'll post a video soon. All for Team Human!

  • @geraldmarcolongo5474
    @geraldmarcolongo5474 Před rokem

    Thank you for the lesson I don’t have a fretless bass anymore but I will try it on all my bases I have noticed in the background on occasions that you have a six string bass I recently decided to go on a six string do you have any advice or any lessons planned for six string players

    • @richbrownbass
      @richbrownbass  Před rokem

      If there's enough call for it, I'll do more lessons on my 6. Usually, when I play it in videos I get a lot of complaints. 😒

  • @kneejo-tube
    @kneejo-tube Před 2 lety

    I have a tendency to play the major third a little flat to get rid of that beating.

  • @abrajmek_zalilov
    @abrajmek_zalilov Před 2 lety

    Hello, Rich! Is this method adoptable for fretless guitar? I have one classical with nylon strings. Thanx for your activity as provider of knowledge. Once again salut from Northern Honduras AKA Russia!

    • @richbrownbass
      @richbrownbass  Před 2 lety

      I adapted this lesson from a fretless guitar lesson. In that lesson Cenk plays 2 octaves of each 3-note sequence. You can totally do it!

    • @abrajmek_zalilov
      @abrajmek_zalilov Před 2 lety

      @@richbrownbass I've already figured it out. Once again, thank you!

  • @minemaj7
    @minemaj7 Před 9 měsíci

    🇹🇷🇹🇷

  • @cloudmaan4035
    @cloudmaan4035 Před měsícem

    Vibrato intensifies.

  • @brianjezuit4085
    @brianjezuit4085 Před měsícem

    Safran semi acoustic bass

  • @justinfedenyszen7049
    @justinfedenyszen7049 Před rokem

    The challenge is not playing vibrato. In the past when I played my performances back I was so shocked at how much I do it. Old habits die hard🤷‍♂️It should be used like cilantro and not salt😜

  • @rickdauer5179
    @rickdauer5179 Před rokem

    Hi Rich, on the 12th do u play between the double dots or the one closest to the bridge or closest to the nut?

    • @richbrownbass
      @richbrownbass  Před rokem

      Hi Rick. You should be playing between the double dots. You can check that against the 12th harmonic or the open string, or a keyboard to be doubly sure.

  • @douglasmullen7596
    @douglasmullen7596 Před 2 měsíci

    Always annoys me when open strings sound different than fretted (fretless) ones - I made an Ebony bridge saddle & Ebony nut - used Tapewound. Solved - even response over all strings.

  • @user-vv9pq5oi9l
    @user-vv9pq5oi9l Před 9 měsíci

    Just bought my first fretless. Can’t stop sliding and virbrato. Please help.

  • @deafprof
    @deafprof Před 2 lety +1

    Dude station

  • @pierrelataillade7564
    @pierrelataillade7564 Před rokem

    I'm a little perplexed Rich...... My bass may not be classified as a "fretless" but it is...... this bass is the "fender jazz". the fretboard is marked but smooth. I think this bass came out in the 70s.... please tell me you are not refer to this bass....

    • @zacharymorin5696
      @zacharymorin5696 Před rokem

      Yes he is, that is a fretless bass. They’re just guidelines but they’re certainly not frets

  • @alphajayy_9832
    @alphajayy_9832 Před 2 lety

    Play bass on weekdays and call UFC fights on sundays

  • @thomassteckle
    @thomassteckle Před 8 měsíci

    Is that a hollow body?

  • @christophegragnic8681

    But what is THIS bass?

    • @richbrownbass
      @richbrownbass  Před rokem

      Beautiful, right? www.safranbasses.com/semi-acoustic

  • @mirkosmi1800
    @mirkosmi1800 Před 3 měsíci

    It would be better if you played more and talked less... A little talk and more playing

  • @bAgRiMoIrEsS.4
    @bAgRiMoIrEsS.4 Před rokem

    I've never had a problem staying in tune. You talk like a lot of people have that problem. Do they? Also, tons of fretless videos.

    • @zacharymorin5696
      @zacharymorin5696 Před rokem

      Yes, that’s the main, primary, issue with learning the fretless bass

    • @bAgRiMoIrEsS.4
      @bAgRiMoIrEsS.4 Před rokem

      @@zacharymorin5696 Thank you! Good video! Very helpful.

  • @yankalesegal5800
    @yankalesegal5800 Před rokem

    Amazing!! What bass is it youre playing? Is it Saffran?

  • @yankalesegal5800
    @yankalesegal5800 Před rokem

    Amazing!! What bass is it youre playing? Is it Saffran?

    • @richbrownbass
      @richbrownbass  Před rokem +1

      Yes! That's a Safran semi-acoustic. I love this bass!