Thanks for taking the time to explain car set up in ACC! I really enjoyed AC and recently have been putting more time into ACC! A great product and its great to have devs interact and help the community!
Thanks so much Aris! As an engineer myself I've been trying to tweak the dampers using motec for ages but never had the expected result, but finally after watching this video I managed to get the right result from my changes! Thank you so much, very satisfying and enhancing my sim experience! :D
Thank you and respect, I wasn't figured out this game is such a hardcore game with so many complicate data. Your explanations for those graphs and data are fascinating, I was really confused about the work methods of dampers and suspensions, their relationships require very solid physics theories, I am poor at physics and you did make it simple to me. And I am feeling that I'm like a racing engineering when I find some issues in the graphs and feedback to my drive experience, it's just awesome.
That was really useful! Thanks alot. It's much more intuitive when someone explains the physical background behind it as well. So by that I mean what actually happens with the actual car. Now I can comprehend how the changes affect the cars handling better. Good video mate.
Thanks Aris! Great fun. Would love to see more on analyzing the histograms and coming up with some sort of cookbook of if looks like this, then do this to get x from the car.
You rock thank you so much for putting out this content! I just missed the live yesterday gonna need to tune in, where can I find info before you go live?
Thanks man. I usually go live every Friday 22:00 CET, but if you join our Discord server (link In the description) you'll get to know with some advance and join the discussions and get direct help.
Hi Aris, good evening! I watched this video and really liked it, I have a question regarding the histograms, should I adjust the graphics trying to match the "AVG" ones as closely as possible? and that?
Hi Aris! Great Video and explanation! ACC is great, congratulations! I m one of the old drivers from the netKar Pro times from the Jaap Wagenvoorts GPOC league. I drove in the Lastplace Racing Team with some nice guys like Juha Pyy, Tjeerd Veenstra, Arthur Kirke Poulsen, Roel de Yong ec. We was a testing Team from a 1.3 v. I have some questions: what and is there a perfect curve of a dampers graph? Say I want to find a perfect adjustments for my Audi EVO. I read somewhere that the amount of the slow movement (grey field) should reach about 12 percent of the graph on all dampers, rear and front. Regards
Hi, is it possible to find the damper lookup tables shown at 19:00 ? Or even better, raw data that goes into the lookup tables. I'm trying to find physical values of damping coeficcients in ACC for my project but can't find anything on the internet.
Aris any chance to have acc separate session data? IRL on my car I do practice 1 download the data and clear it for next session so I have a fresh new data record for practice 2. In ACC as I progress through a weekend p1 data gets added to the p2 data and qual data on top of that it’s like it’s one big session. GTR2 for example created one MoTeC file for each time you entered and exited the garage or practice or qualifying session. It made organizing the data easier. I hope it’s clear what I’m asking. Keep up the great work and videos. And congratulations to the whole crew on this fantastic sim
I noted that you have watched at the telemetry while the ACC session was in progress. But I’m sure that I must esc from to session to look at the telemetry. I’m wrong?
Hi Aris! Do u mind if I could ask a question about Porsche at Spa? It seems that no matter how much adjustments being made to the wheel rate of the car, from what I had imported into Motec, the bars in the middle section (Lo%) for Porsche seems to be extremely high, which is around 43% for front and rear. Is it some kind of characteristics only for Porsche? It went up to nearly 16% and I couldn't really get it down. Do u have any advice for this? Cheers!
Hi Aris , thanks a lot for the precious video, but probably for my bad english comprehension, I can't understand if the histo is for example higher in the right side (bumping low anf fast) where do I have to set in acc dampers? Downing the fast and slow bump? the anti roll bar? Thanks a lot
Another great setup study moment ! I would like to know if I understood this in the right way, especially about weight transfer. So if Stiff damping = fast weight transfer and Soft damping = lower weight transfer. I am in fine tuning and I would like to reduce understeer in a fast left corner exit : Symmetrical solution is : -1 click soft rebound Front Left / Right -1 click soft compression Rear Left / Right Asymmetrical solution : -1 click soft rebound Front Right -1 click soft compression rear Left Am I on the right way to become engineer in motor sport or should I leave it and take care of my house and garden ? ;-)
I'm just trying to find out how to make the damper histograms in the first place. I tried manual selection and then calculate from suspension travel but nothing shows up in the histograms. I changed the colours of the travel but it keeps showing the colours of damper speed data which I don't have. thanks for this series!
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Will you do a proper series on MoTeC? Or do you have one?
A french author (Nicolas Boileau, XVII century) said once "What is well conceived is clearly stated, And the words to say it come easily." Obviously, there's a problem here :-). But thanks for your attempt ! And thanks for your time to explain some physics in ACC in all your streams, really interesting, from a mechanical point of view (even if some basic principles are well known) and to setup your car, because ... you develop the game. Keep going, but less chatty, it seems your setup is 100% italian now, ha ha ! Idea for a stream of explanations : how to configure "properly" your wheel meaning having a more realistic FFB (drivers properties, ACC FFB settings, using wheelcheck and LUT file if better, and not only for fanatec, but for Thrusmaster and Logitech because there're very common and can be a good entry point to switch from arcade to sim, and buy a better hardware next, if you've got money). Most people says that FFB is personnal, but I think when you drive a real car, you're not setup your wheel force for your personnal preference, you deal with what you have, that's sim ...
Is there an ideal value in the suspension histogram screen to be reached in the upper and central part of the graph? What are the values for which the suspension is considered too braked or not braked or adjusted in the right way apart from the shape of the graph?
In my damper histograms the central column is always in the Y axis 20 to 30 value, ie it's too high. This is even with paid setups. I have been trying to reduce the central column, the y axis value to closer to 12-15 region. I have increased stiffness of springs and softened springs to extreme values done the same with dampers but no joy.
The height of the columns is not important. You can change the scale and instantly you'll have a different height. The histograms are just an indication of the time spent from each damper at a speed. It's a good starting point (and I underline starting point) to make the dampers pretty symmetrical bump to rebound but once you have achieved that, start experiment to make the car handle better for you, no matter what the histograms say. Don't drive on the numbers.
I use the Motec, however, to have the histogram of the suspensions, the idea would be a sampling frequency of 100 Hz and instead it is only at 20HZ. How can you change the sampling frequency?
Used Motec to improve my lap times on the Lexus around Suzuka . And now I have perfect dampers ,areodynamics ; now I just need to improve the lap time from 2.01.140 to something around 2.00.7-800 Now a question for you man . I want to add a new worksheet in motec , to control RAKE and ride height, can you tell me how do I do that?
@@felixeur1276 i've checked but it doesnt allow me to create that specific channel ...and i need to fix my rake balance on Mount Panorama ...i'm having problems controlling the car without that data....
Well those 41 minutes flew by.
Like your way of explaning Aris, the honey vs water compared to stiff vs slow dampening.
Simple yet very clear.
Thanks for taking the time to explain car set up in ACC! I really enjoyed AC and recently have been putting more time into ACC! A great product and its great to have devs interact and help the community!
Thanks so much Aris! As an engineer myself I've been trying to tweak the dampers using motec for ages but never had the expected result, but finally after watching this video I managed to get the right result from my changes! Thank you so much, very satisfying and enhancing my sim experience! :D
Thank you and respect, I wasn't figured out this game is such a hardcore game with so many complicate data. Your explanations for those graphs and data are fascinating, I was really confused about the work methods of dampers and suspensions, their relationships require very solid physics theories, I am poor at physics and you did make it simple to me. And I am feeling that I'm like a racing engineering when I find some issues in the graphs and feedback to my drive experience, it's just awesome.
I usually listen to your videos while I drive in ACC. You are very good at explaining things without making them sound boring. 👍🏽
That was really useful! Thanks alot.
It's much more intuitive when someone explains the physical background behind it as well. So by that I mean what actually happens with the actual car.
Now I can comprehend how the changes affect the cars handling better. Good video mate.
What an amazing content... you deserve way more followers
Superb content, could go through it a bit swifter for me but this level of explanation is awesome , keep it coming aris
Hello aris , thanks for making this video. Also im hearing virus is getting worse in northern italy , stay safe out there man
I watch it over and over again.
I always find new important informations, thank you so much for this work!
Ive not watched this yet but i know its going to be awesome thanks daddy Aris
Thanks Aris! Great fun. Would love to see more on analyzing the histograms and coming up with some sort of cookbook of if looks like this, then do this to get x from the car.
All about balance - the thinner the tight rope you can walk successfully, the faster your car can go round in circles.
Tks Aris, very useful and intersting topic.
Excellent...Looking forward to more MoTec stuff. Grazie mile. Ciao
Now I have an image of water and honey just thinking of dampers ;)
More telemetry please :D
You rock thank you so much for putting out this content! I just missed the live yesterday gonna need to tune in, where can I find info before you go live?
Thanks man. I usually go live every Friday 22:00 CET, but if you join our Discord server (link In the description) you'll get to know with some advance and join the discussions and get direct help.
Do you have a video about how to setup the suspension from scratch? Thanks
Thank Aris, most instructive video.
Hi Aris, good evening! I watched this video and really liked it, I have a question regarding the histograms, should I adjust the graphics trying to match the "AVG" ones as closely as possible? and that?
Hi Aris! Great Video and explanation! ACC is great, congratulations! I m one of the old drivers from the netKar Pro times from the Jaap Wagenvoorts GPOC league. I drove in the Lastplace Racing Team with some nice guys like Juha Pyy, Tjeerd Veenstra, Arthur Kirke Poulsen, Roel de Yong ec. We was a testing Team from a 1.3 v. I have some questions: what and is there a perfect curve of a dampers graph? Say I want to find a perfect adjustments for my Audi EVO. I read somewhere that the amount of the slow movement (grey field) should reach about 12 percent of the graph on all dampers, rear and front. Regards
Boing and swoop, I like that!
Hi, is it possible to find the damper lookup tables shown at 19:00 ? Or even better, raw data that goes into the lookup tables. I'm trying to find physical values of damping coeficcients in ACC for my project but can't find anything on the internet.
Aris any chance to have acc separate session data? IRL on my car I do practice 1 download the data and clear it for next session so I have a fresh new data record for practice 2. In ACC as I progress through a weekend p1 data gets added to the p2 data and qual data on top of that it’s like it’s one big session. GTR2 for example created one MoTeC file for each time you entered and exited the garage or practice or qualifying session. It made organizing the data easier. I hope it’s clear what I’m asking. Keep up the great work and videos. And congratulations to the whole crew on this fantastic sim
I noted that you have watched at the telemetry while the ACC session was in progress. But I’m sure that I must esc from to session to look at the telemetry. I’m wrong?
Hi there! Since 1.2 I believe, telemetry saves everytime you go back to the setup screen. No need t hit esc and quit from sessions.
Hi Aris! Do u mind if I could ask a question about Porsche at Spa? It seems that no matter how much adjustments being made to the wheel rate of the car, from what I had imported into Motec, the bars in the middle section (Lo%) for Porsche seems to be extremely high, which is around 43% for front and rear. Is it some kind of characteristics only for Porsche? It went up to nearly 16% and I couldn't really get it down. Do u have any advice for this? Cheers!
Hi Aris , thanks a lot for the precious video, but probably for my bad english comprehension, I can't understand if the histo is for example higher in the right side (bumping low anf fast) where do I have to set in acc dampers? Downing the fast and slow bump? the anti roll bar? Thanks a lot
Another great setup study moment !
I would like to know if I understood this in the right way, especially about weight transfer.
So if Stiff damping = fast weight transfer and Soft damping = lower weight transfer.
I am in fine tuning and I would like to reduce understeer in a fast left corner exit :
Symmetrical solution is :
-1 click soft rebound Front Left / Right
-1 click soft compression Rear Left / Right
Asymmetrical solution :
-1 click soft rebound Front Right
-1 click soft compression rear Left
Am I on the right way to become engineer in motor sport or should I leave it and take care of my house and garden ? ;-)
I'm just trying to find out how to make the damper histograms in the first place.
I tried manual selection and then calculate from suspension travel but nothing shows up in the histograms. I changed the colours of the travel but it keeps showing the colours of damper speed data which I don't have. thanks for this series!
Will you do a proper series on MoTeC? Or do you have one?
Sorry, I don't know the Motec program well, please who explains me how to insert the videos of the laps to analyze it
Shouldn’t you set motec to Distance when comparing laps? It seems to be on time.
A french author (Nicolas Boileau, XVII century) said once "What is well conceived is clearly stated, And the words to say it come easily." Obviously, there's a problem here :-). But thanks for your attempt ! And thanks for your time to explain some physics in ACC in all your streams, really interesting, from a mechanical point of view (even if some basic principles are well known) and to setup your car, because ... you develop the game. Keep going, but less chatty, it seems your setup is 100% italian now, ha ha !
Idea for a stream of explanations : how to configure "properly" your wheel meaning having a more realistic FFB (drivers properties, ACC FFB settings, using wheelcheck and LUT file if better, and not only for fanatec, but for Thrusmaster and Logitech because there're very common and can be a good entry point to switch from arcade to sim, and buy a better hardware next, if you've got money). Most people says that FFB is personnal, but I think when you drive a real car, you're not setup your wheel force for your personnal preference, you deal with what you have, that's sim ...
Is there an ideal value in the suspension histogram screen to be reached in the upper and central part of the graph?
What are the values for which the suspension is considered too braked or not braked or adjusted in the right way apart from the shape of the graph?
Potresti fare un video sul motec i2 pro in italiano? Magari è uscito e me lo sono perso, sono nuovo su questo canale
What is the name of the channel he talks about at the beginning? I can't understand the name - his pronunciation 🤔😉
David Perel's YT channel. Coach Dave Academy. czcams.com/channels/Ipu-V_UN8wKFqNMEHRo-UQ.html
@@ArisDrives thanks Aris! 😘
Minute 36.30, What is the tittle of the book? Thanks for your time and your work
Data Power - Using racecar data acquisition. From Buddy Fey.
Sorry if I want it x PS4?
Aris ma in italiano una spiegazione del motec?
In my damper histograms the central column is always in the Y axis 20 to 30 value, ie it's too high. This is even with paid setups. I have been trying to reduce the central column, the y axis value to closer to 12-15 region. I have increased stiffness of springs and softened springs to extreme values done the same with dampers but no joy.
The height of the columns is not important. You can change the scale and instantly you'll have a different height.
The histograms are just an indication of the time spent from each damper at a speed. It's a good starting point (and I underline starting point) to make the dampers pretty symmetrical bump to rebound but once you have achieved that, start experiment to make the car handle better for you, no matter what the histograms say.
Don't drive on the numbers.
I use the Motec, however, to have the histogram of the suspensions, the idea would be a sampling frequency of 100 Hz and instead it is only at 20HZ.
How can you change the sampling frequency?
We might be able to do it in the near future.
Used Motec to improve my lap times on the Lexus around Suzuka .
And now I have perfect dampers ,areodynamics ; now I just need to improve the lap time from 2.01.140 to something around 2.00.7-800
Now a question for you man .
I want to add a new worksheet in motec , to control RAKE and ride height, can you tell me how do I do that?
You can make an equation that makes the result being rear ride height - front ride height
@@felixeur1276 directly inside motec ....and motec take care of the result ? ..or by hand?
@@Yozzeus its directly inside motec. I dont remember exactly how since I havent used Motec since my GTR2 leagues
@@felixeur1276 i've checked but it doesnt allow me to create that specific channel ...and i need to fix my rake balance on Mount Panorama ...i'm having problems controlling the car without that data....
i do understand ..gtr2 ....yeye
Can I get that Motev discord link?😊😀
water??? where is the Frappe???
Too many adds bro