Jon Watts' MCU Spider-Man - The Complete Retrospective (2016 - 2021)
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- After a decade of Sony making Spider-Man movies, Marvel Studios take up the reins for a brand new trilogy! An unlikely corporate collaboration like no other!
A compilation of the Homecoming, Far From Home and No Way Home retrospectives all in one feature-length video!
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The fictional character Spider-Man, a comic book superhero created by Stan Lee and Steve Ditko and featured in Marvel Comics publications, has appeared as a main character in numerous theatrical and made-for-television films.
Nicholas Hammond first starred as Peter Parker / Spider-Man in the 1977 made-for-television film Spider-Man and would appear as the character two other times. In 1978, the Toei Company created a theatrical spin-off of their Spider-Man television series, with Shinji Todō reprising his role as Takuya Yamashiro / Spider-Man. By 1999, Sony Pictures Entertainment had acquired the film rights to the character, creating two film series until 2014: the Sam Raimi Spider-Man trilogy of films (2002-2007) starring Tobey Maguire as the character, and the Marc Webb Amazing Spider-Man films (2012-2014) starring Andrew Garfield in the role.
In February 2015, Disney, Marvel Studios, and Sony made a deal to share the Spider-Man film rights, leading to a new iteration of Spider-Man being introduced and integrated into the Marvel Cinematic Universe. The deal allowed Sony Pictures to continue to own, finance, distribute, and have final creative control of the solo Spider-Man films, with Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures distributing the films with his other appearances in a supporting capacity. Tom Holland portrays this version of Spider-Man, and has appeared in six films to date, from Captain America: Civil War (2016) to Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021). In September 2019, following a brief stand-off resulting in the termination of the old agreement, Disney and Sony relented to fan outcry and reached a new agreement for Holland's version to return for future films such as another solo film, Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021) where he appears alongside Maguire and Garfield who reprise their roles in the film as supporting characters, and another team-up film. In December 2021, Feige confirmed that he and Pascal, along with Sony and Disney, are developing a fourth MCU Spider-Man film.
Plans for an animated Spider-Man film were officially announced by Sony in April 2015, which eventually became Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (2018) from Sony Pictures Animation. Shameik Moore voices Miles Morales / Spider-Man in the film, along with various other versions of Peter Parker and alternate versions of Spider-Man from the multiverse also appearing. Sequels and potential spin-offs are planned.
The Spider-Man films have been generally well received. They have collectively grossed nearly $9.8 billion at the global box office, with Far From Home becoming the first Spider-Man film to gross over $1 billion worldwide followed by No Way Home, which became Sony's highest-grossing film of all time. Additionally, Into the Spider-Verse won the Academy Award for Best Animated Feature. - Krátké a kreslené filmy
They gave AVI ARAD a big thank you in the credits of NWH
But you know who else deserves a big thank you?
LAURA ZISKIN
It was because of her and her partner (the screenwriter Alvin Sargent) that the original trilogy and TASM1 had depth
Arad on the other hand just wanted to use the movies to sell toys
This person speaks the truth. Rip Laura
I swear I saw this comment on his nwh review lmao
Yeah screw Arad. You know they put that not because they wanted to but because they were obligated to.
That one portion in the film actually made me so angry and nauseated.
Laura Ziskin and Alvin Sargent ABSOLUTELY made a huge impact on Spidey and their contributions must never be undermined, however, film is such a collaborative medium that I cannot chalk the brilliance of the Spider-Man films up to just them. There are tonnes of people involved that made Spidey matter both before and after them.
To me, Watts and Hollands Spider-Man has been the most true to character out of them all
Both Holland and Maguire, but I love them all. Including Miles.
I would say Garfield probably captures the Spider-Man persona best while Maguire covers the darker more mature aspects of Peter best. Tom I think is the most well rounded actor in the role and plays Peter and Spider-Man equally well. All three actors have something different to offer to the role so you can’t help but love them all.
So flash was the most comic accurate in the watts Spider-Man ???
@@BrianMoviesMaker they said Holland's Spider-Man. As in, y'know, the character Holland plays as...
@@BrianMoviesMaker more believable and grounded than the 40 year old flash Tobey got in his movies. Even Andrew’s flash was a more believable bully than Tobey’s flash.
It really is weird how Homecoming had a sort of sinister 6 in it but everyone forgot. Then again NWH gave us more of a real sinister 6 minus 1 so makes sense.
@chandllerburse737Vulture, Shocker, Tinkerer, Prowler, and Scorpion are all in Homecoming.
@@TheAzulmagiareach
@@MyProductBrand2 How is it a reach? Vulture, Shocker, and Tinkerer are all shown working together, Aaron Davis is shown to have become the Prowler at some point between Homecoming and Spiderverse 2, and the guy with the scorpion tattoo is named Mac Gargan. The only way it could get more blatant is if the screen had the text "This is a supervillain from the comics" flash onscreen every time they appeared.
I was very hesitant to love Tom as spidey and he proved me wrong love them all💜
I’m the opposite. I’ve always accepted every new Spider-Man movie with open arms and it’s really hard for me to hear criticisms on any of them because I love the character so much. It took me years to acknowledge Spider-Man 3 was kind of a mess of a movie and Amazing Spider-Man 2 wasn’t great. I did have my doubts about Garfield and was disappointed there wasn’t a Spider-Man 4 but I loved every Peter when they made their debut.
Same tbh. I used to be all, "Tobey was better," back when Civil war came out, but I actually like him as Peter more than Tobey now tbh
We really been getting consistent #Spiderman content since #MarvelStudios started to work with #SonyPictures
Captain America Civil War 2016
Spider-Man Homecoming 2017
Avengers Infinity war May 2018
Spider-Man ps4 Sep 2018
Into the spider verse Dec 2018
Avengers Endgame May 2019
Spider-Man Far from home 2019
Spider-Man miles morales 2020
Spider-Man No way home Dec 2021
And this year
Across the spiderverse June 2023
Spider-Man 2 ps5
Shit crazy when u think about it
What a time to be alive to be a Spider-Man fan!
One thing i noticed was that for the home trilogy, as peter graudally grew into the role he was shown to be taller. And for Aunt may she began to look plder and older. The change was most noticable in no way home
I never noticed that detail, I'm so glad you made it noticed it. I'm pretty sure Peter was shorter in Homecoming and FFH, he does seem taller in that scene. Cool detail.
Easily my favorite movie rendition of Spider-man. I know they're not for everyone, but they've basically been everything I've wanted in a Spidey movie. An amazingly fun time with a strong emotional core. I also love how they took more risks and took a very different direction with the character while still remaining true to who Spider-man is.
I hope Jon Watts can make a career of his own outside the MCU
Oh he will, I'm certain.
@@ChannelPup He is producing the new Final Destination film!
ur videos are such a great movie review documentary that I put in background while playing anything
Amazing ❤
You know, with all the restrictions, mandates, work arounds, and time crunches facing No Way Home, I respect the final product immensely. Yes, the Dr. Strange set up is undeniably sloppy but my gosh, does this film get the most important things right.
First off, a lot of people say the first 30 min are slow and boring but I love the start of this film. Seeing how the lack of anonymity and accusutions against him affect not just him but also the people he's closest to. It's full of great moments between Peter, May, Happy, MJ, and Ned. MJ and Peter's chemistry is the best it's ever been. The first 20 min is very effective in showing why Peter would seek out Strange's help. And no, it's not as shallow as "he didn't get into his dream college." They were hoping that moving away to college would provide reprieve from the constant harrasment they'd faced over the last several weeks in NY. I also appreciate that they make a point to stress that Peter isn't doing this for himself. He's motivated by his desire to see his loved ones' lives to go back to normal. He says it to Strange, then demonstrates this by reiterating to the admissions lady that his goal was to get MIT to reconsider Ned and MJ's applications, not his own.
It's unfortunate that the goal was getting all these characters back from their previous franchises, yet there was no narratively cohesive vision for how to accomplish this. Try and defend it all you want, Dr. Strange not bothering to brief Peter on the spell and then, without hesitation, jumping to the extreme of erasing everyone's memory, is incredibly sloppy and heavily strains suspension of disbelief. However, it's worth noting that this movie was originally supposed to come after Dr. Strange 2. It's possible they had to rewrite the setup because of that. Regardless, the way I look at it is this; if they were going to drop the ball in one area of this incredibly ambitious film, this is one of the most forgivable. It's a major flaw and one that, by objective measures, brings this movie down, but it's also one that can be easily overlooked without affecting the emotional core of this story.
The "fan service" is, for the most part, handled very well. There maybe a few too many pandering references to memes or ill-timed jokes but with a movie jam packed full of them, the misses are few and far between. Most of the humor and references are great and a joy to experience. (and I say this as someone who has no nostalgic attachment to the previous films) Doc Ock and Goblin are just as great as they were in there original movies. Electro's character gets overhauled but virtually no one is complaining about that and they do justify this change.
May and her "moral mission" were well built up and she earns the "with great power there must also come great responsibility" line. That's one thing that sets No Way Home apart in this uncle ben-esque scene. You really feel this line from May because she's been demonstrating that ideal throughout NWH. (and, to an extent, FFH) May's death is heartbreaking and credit to Holland's acting in this and the following scenes.
I could of course gush about Andrew and how he steals the show (in terms of acting and charisma) or all the amazing payoffs this movies gives several multiverse characters but to keep it short, it's a wholly satisfactory climax and love letter to the fans that expertly pays tribute to the previous incarnations of Spider-Man while never losing focus on whose story this is.
The ending is perfectly bittersweet and I can't wait to see the what's next for Tom Holland's Spidey. (That is assuming there will be another. Has anything been officially announced yet?)
Nice insight! I think you hit the nail on the head.
I believe Amy Pascal confirmed just today that there'd be another Spider-Man film with Tom Holland and Zendaya as well as hinting at a live action Miles Morales.
@ChannelPup Really? That's awesome, thanks for the info!
Wonder if she's announcing now because Across the Spiderverse releases tomorrow.
There was no real reason for Dr. Strange to be that stupid and reckless with the spell other than him just being an arrogant character in general. But I’m okay with Peter being responsible for the mess he made because it was basically the start of his character arc. Maybe it’s a bit sloppy but much weirder/dumber stuff has happened in comics, so like you said I can easily overlook it. If that is people’s biggest criticism of the movie I think it is a really solid movie even without the nostalgia and fanboying because the emotional core of the movie is still there and I think that’s the most important thing. The emotion I felt from the end of the movie alone was enough for me to rate No Way Home as the best MCU movie with Guardians 3 just behind it. If I was being objective I might put Guardians 3 first but I am a hopeless Spider-Man fan boy so of course that has to be first.
@jacobharris5894 💯
I'm not going to pretend that the setup isn't a mess but I will happily go along with it because of everything this movie got right.
I'd push back slightly on this being Peter's fault though. Again, his motivation for going to Strange was helping his loved ones, not himself. Strange is the one who blindsighted him by saying "nice knowing you Peter" immediately before he starts casting the spell.
DON'T READ IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN ACROSS THE SPIDERVERSE
This is definitely not a jab against Spiderverse but having seen it, I'd still say No Way Home has the best fan service of any Spider-Man movie. Though that Spectacular cameo was pretty cool.
2:09:23 I love that fight 2:26:30 THAT WAS GREAT so mcu can have their own rendition of the venom storyline
Another good video
I liked your reviews specially the Spider-Man 2 review since I actually give real Criticism. Not just wat u think a game should be. Not just what ur interested in. U earned a sub
W vid keep it up
Okay I just finished watching the video. It was very good and agree with you for the most part. I don’t know how I didn’t notice the plot holes you pointed out about the death of Green Goblin. I think that is probably the most egregious part of the whole film. I’m just going to go with my head cannon that the the villains are from similar but different universes to the other Spider-Men like you said and there is no time travel involved. (By that I mean time passes by like normal despite them being out of universe. This assumes a a notion of absolute time that doesn’t exist in modern physics but this is superhero movie so I think that kind of logic is perfectly fine here.) I feel that is the simplest interpretation that allows to you to easily explain away everything and avoid complications with the universe we are already familiar with. It also gets around the idea that some of villains would be send back to die anyway like Doc Ock because I’m imagining Spider-Man just finds a way to drown the fusion reactor by himself. And Otto returns to an already saved New York. I’m more aware now of the things objectively wrong with this movie but I feel if you use your imagination you fix most of the issues it has surrounded Dr. Strange’s magic.
i feel like if your plot breakdowns were the actual pitches for these movies theyd be sold in an instant. you do a really good job at connecting plot points and illustrating through lines.
Nice.
3RD!!..
Sandman being cool with mcu peter is very canon also, SpiderMan essentially lets sandman leave scot free at the end of spiderman 3 so they were chill
I think that plot hole can be explained that Otto figured it out because he used to work with Norman. So maybe he was part or talked to Norman about his experiments from the first film, and knowing about the glider he put two and two together. And as for sandman knowing, we don't know if he dies or not. He just blows away in the wind. So Norman as Green goblin could have been all over the news after Harry died and what happened to him and people found out how and linked the two.
So there isn't as big a plot hole. There's possible explanations
These three movies are fantastic I consider all of them 10/10 movies and not lightly either. From Civil war to no way home I still contend Tom holland felt the most like Peter and Spiderman with Andrew Garfield a very close second. I also understood the route they were going with Tom's Peter and why the complaints that he was simpy Iron man jr just baffle me, because he's not nor are the movies trying to imply that's the direction their going in. Infact Iron man himself admits he DOES'NT want Peter to be exactly like that and then his best friend confirms that to Peter in the second movie. And Civil war confirmed he made the whole Spiderman concept by himself all Tony did was make a proper version of it and never strayed from his idea.
I agree with everything you said. Love the comment.
I agree 100%
The Mid Credits with Eddie and Venom also brought another Venom. Or at least another Symbiote. The little piece left behind clearly looks like Raimi’s Symbiote based on the way it moves, setting up for Peter to find it in Secret Wars.
I do believe Bernard spoke up about Norman after Harry’s death. As for Otto, I can buy he’s smart enough to figure it out on his own, but maybe him not mentioning Norman until they first meet would’ve helped things
At first i didnt like the homecoming films until no way home and the overall story is very good and he finally becomes the true spiderman at the end of no way home it puts the film into perspective and its very good !
I was wondering. What is the music for your intro?
I absolutely LOVED the Jon Watts trilogy, and I never thought anything like this Spider-Man would be put onto film. Imagine how many legal hoops they had to jump through to get Sony + Marvel/Disney on board with it. Then we almost did not get that 3rd film and that was horrifying. People spoke and the studios worked it out again, and I'm so thankful we got to see No Way Home. Brilliant, brilliant movie!
Now I am just sincerely hoping we get at least one more film out of it. I'm curious if we would instead get a new director, or if Watts would return?
the ceo of sex himself is the best character
There are a lot of aspects I love about far from home, and I think objectively as a whole I can’t say it’s a bad film by any stretch. I do have an issue with Mysterio’s portrayal. With Vulture, him being a disgruntled employee who got fucked over by Tony Stark is meant to enforce the theme of Peter forgetting, but eventually understanding the plight of having to protect the little guy and how big corporate mongols like Tony Stark just ignore the common folk. In the words of Batman, “while you’re flying over the streets, who’s on the ground saving them”. He’s a perfect foil for the idea of spider-man. However, I think Mysterio being a disgruntled stark employee doesn’t really offer many thematic benefits to the film, and moreso just created a missed opportunity for the film to delve into a more interesting backstory.
I knew this was his origins movies and we watch him grow up. Didn’t think anything in nwh would would happen tho
2:02:45 I think they explained this in the movie the movie says he was absorbing data so it stands to reason he absorbed the data that Peter is Spider-Man
Except that Data isn't out there so how would he have known unless Harry told him. Which didn't happen as Harry figured it out at the end of the film
2:28:20 yeah it does knowing Peter Parker is Spider-Man was the only requirement
Tom Holland and the choice of villains is what renewed my faith in Spider-Man films. I love the Raimi films, as the first and most faithful adaptation of a comic book at the time. But Garfield didn't sell it for me. He was too cool and hip. Skateboard and texting constantly
Andew lacked good scripts. He was brilliant in NWH.
1:50 Hey everyone aka a new challenger approaches to the mcu
Because Toby walks through the portal in civilian clothes, Ned doesn't think Maguire is a Spider-Man and says "It's just some guy."
Actually far from home isnt his first time seen swinging in the city. Thats infinity war. Otherwise fantastic video! Love your stuff
nah cuz i was doing the same missions as you this entire video wtf
GEEZ LOUISE did the complaints about NWH drag on and On and ON.
Raimi Spider-man is my favorite, Marc Webb Spider-Man is the most accurate spider-man to the comics, Watts Spider-man is great because he is the Spider-man that teams up with the Avengers.
I myself mostly look at spiderman no way home as a fan service movie and don't really count most of it as the third part of the spiderman trilogy just some of it . After all it was supposed to be infighting b/w strange and Peter but they decided to this multiversal thing and just added the bits left over by the previous idea also I think covid has at least some effect on it aswell.
2:23:00 lol is that sonic frontiers music
52:50 LMAO
2:36:00 The Goods of no way home
2:27:45 It's a variant
2:30:23 That's not how it works, the villains don't go back
What’s the intro music?
Darude-sandstorm
I think i said this on the original video as well but I'll say it again anyways
I also thought everyone knew Norman was the Green Goblin including Harry
And you seriously wanted Tom Hardy's joke of a take on Venom to be in the MCU more? I'm glad that he existed just long enough to leave the black suit behind and that's it.
I thought Tom Hardy could of played the role good. He seems to be a good actor and he even looks like Eddie Brock but he wasn’t given much to work with. Venom just can’t work without Spider-man. It’s just not the same without that foundation to the character.
Same the first movie was decent but the second movie ruined it potential
change ned’s name to ganke and switch tony stark with peter parker and the mcu spider-man is just miles morales. especially when you consider tony dies and peter has to take become “the new iron man”
He doesn't become the new Iron Man though. Far From Home very clearly disabused that notion. And then just to double down, NWH takes away all the tech and resources he got from Tony and leaves him completely on his own.
You know, I think you have a point in a lot of ways.
2:05:12 I feel like they can do other things w Norman besides goblin tho like Iron patriot a real one
2:07:22 how do u know this wasn’t after the 3rd film
@@Alejandro333777 That makes sense for Sandman but how would the public find out after the third movie? Also that doesn’t explain how Otto would know about Norman being the Goblin. I feel the Rami adjacent universe thing is a simpler explanation because it also resolves the issue of time paradox’s too. Technically you could make it work if Otto and Norman come back to the Rami universe 20 years later but that would be bizarre and leave you with even more questions.
Someone seriously thought that red and black suit was gonna appear in civil war? Hahaha that's funny AF 😅
Imagine them speed running to venom in twenty minutes lol.
2:30:59 Literally how it works, Tobey and Andrew's universe have not changed a bit
1:04:07 that’s interesting didn’t even notice that 1:26:54 facts 1:30:20 true it put the iron boy jr to bed imo 1:50:00 😂
Spiron-Man for the most parts tho!
2:24:40
No way home. The writers probably have watched the Raimi trilogy but hasn't in a long time so they went with what they remember
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2:41:20 Eh his Uncle Ben still died
i firmly disagree on the portrayal of JJ in spiderman ps4 being bad, its very good. It combines the current narrative that he’s a washed up guy that’s been bashing the same angle into people’s heads forever. I think in the game it works because peter has been around for a while so its reasonable that jj would eventually become to be viewed as an alex jones type conspiracy theorist, not to say hes actually like the actual guy in his horribleness. Spider Man has been doing his thing in new york for years at this point likely saving at least a couple hundred maybe thousand lives, and JJ is still harping on this menace angle. Its clear in the game he isnt all bad having won 2 pulitzer prizes, so maybe at one point he was on to something. I do agree for the movie though it kinda just became too meta because all that context that makes it good in the game is stripped from the movie since toms peter is a totally different person. It was just like copying spiderman ps4’s homework at that point. I say all this just to say, Insomniac’s JJJ created a fresh new take on a classic character that is still very fitting in the verse, because in the gameverse JJ is likely just seen as a lunatic because of how much he’s been wrong.
Mirror dimension is based on GEOMETRY. Not GEOGRAPHY
It's a shame these movies were so bad they actually had to bring back older versions of these characters just to get people to see No Way Home.
Bad? Are you out of your mind? If you talk about bad, well, they're better than ASM2, or maybe SM3. At least Spidey is much more comic-accurate!
@mottom2657 By being an Iron Man fanboy, having a mechanical suit, Ned Leeds knowing his secret identity, or Aunt May being hot? Very comic accurate indeed. No Way Home just took pieces of a disaster and barely managed to salvage it.
@@gallifreyanknight1355I mean he can be an Ironman fanboy but the issue is he kisses up to Stark way more than any fanboy would.
He also doesn't seem balanced out because he is supposed to look up to both Tony and Steve and become the best versions of them.
That's one of the many things that make Spider-Man so cool.
Geometry not geography
15:35 Did you mean Amazing Spider-Man 1 here? I feel like we got a lot of Spider-Man 2. In fact the action in that movie was one of mu favorite thing about it.
No, Spidey gets significantly less screen time in-costume in TASM2 than he does in TASM1.
@@ChannelPup Interesting. I didn’t realize that. Maybe because the action is much better in TASM 2.
I’d actually be curious to know what Spider-Man’s screen time in costume, not in civilian clothes unless he’s doing Spider-Man like stuff, across all movies are. I can’t seem to find that anywhere.
I dislike the entire trilogy because of how much they viewed Spider-Man in the MCU and the lack of any mention about uncle Ben in the MCU.
If they repeated the same thing, you people would cry about it.
“Nooo Tom Holland can’t be a good Spider-Man. He hasn’t suffered anything!” - 🤡
The biggest complaint I've seen from the MCU Spider-Man movies is that Peter hardly faces any consequences from his actions as Spider-Man. Now aside from NWH being the obvious example of the writers taking that criticism and shoving it down audience's throats, I actually find that Tom's Spider-Man has the most realistic take on consequences. Like, yeah, Peter Parker being Spider-Man should have an effect on his personal life and vise versa...but I always found it odd that *everything* Spidey did would effect Peter's life. It just felt a bit off and less grounded. Not everything Spider-Man does will negatively effect or have any effect on Peter's life. That's like saying Peter will always be late for school because he saved a cat from a tree, or he misses a date with MJ cuz of stopping a mugging. Not every action someone does has a consequence, that's just really unrealistic. Idk, maybe I'm wrong and in the minority on this
What I hated the most about the first two movies is how they lean themselves on the bigger MCU movies that came before
And how much they surrounded Iron Man
Good thing the 3rd movie avoided that
I agree that the first two relied too much on iron man but then the third did the exact opposite, relying heavily on pre established spiderman movies. Maybe this is a hot take but I would have preferred a peter on the run story similar to the the supposed original script but with scorpion, maybe he's the one who killed uncle Ben and when spiderman throws him in prison this builds the vendetta he has against spiderman. We can explore peter world through the eyes of a predator , who he can kill to get to his prey. Then maybe add a flashback to the night uncle Ben dies with Toby maguire casted as uncle Ben. At least that's how I would have done it.