Solar Stones of the Goths - Gotland 🇸🇪
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- The famous picture stones of Gotland are like Viking rune stones from Scandinavia, but they have pictures and fewer runes. The themes and images depicted on them developed over the Iron Age and into the Viking Age. Originally they seem to have pertained to some kind of Indo-European solar cult involving horses, but later stones have more familiar figures from Norse mythology.
Early stones could have served as grave monuments which may explain the solar iconography focusing on the eternal solar cycles. There are many images relating to death - including sleipnir, the sacrifice, battles and possibly valknutl. Cremation graves sometimes found at foot of stones.
I also explain that Gutasaga records Gotland as the homeland of the Goths and that the nation was founded by Tjelvar, servant of Thor, whose grave I visit. It is a stone ship setting.
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Where did that link even come from? From ancient Germanic tribes to the modern subculture?
Mommy give me milkies 😙🍼
J Civilis the Gothic script? Do you mean the Gothic Alphabet which Wulfila invented, or the style of calligraphy in the latin script?
Gothenburg makes one automatically goth.
Really good and intresting video about Gotland. Me myself is born on Gotland and i can trace some roots of my family living on Gotland in hundreds of years and many generations. The Goths was the same kin as the Gotlanders (Gutar) and the Götalanders also called in old times for Gothia, Gothland, Gothenland or Gautland. Götaland is the southern part of the mainland Sweden and Gotland in a province. The Goths origin was from Sweden and Gotland then they migrated down to todays Poland then later to Ukraine and Balkans where they settled and became a big part of anicent history and the fall of Rome. Later the Goths was all over southern Europe and became Visigoths (West Goths) and Ostrogoths (East Goths). Many aincent tribes came from South Sweden and Denmark like the Vandals, the Burgundians, the Lombards, they all migrated south and became a part of the European history and converted to christianity while their kinsmen of scandinavia didn't convert until the late viking age. Later in history Gotlanders was sailing East to Russia (Russia is named after the vikings that was rowing in the rivers of Russia and Russia is simply called the Row-land) and the Byzantine empire and then they became called the Varangians, that was the name given by the Byzantines and East Slavs to the Vikings. The Swedish and Gotlandic vikings gave birth to the Rurik dynasty that later became modern Russia.
Gotland is now a peaceful little island but it was a big trade center in the Baltic and Byzantine trade. Gotland has a amazing history and i just love it. I recommend a visit. It's was a honor to have you here on Gotland @Survive the jive
Gotlandic people is called ''Gutar'' The name may originate from older germanic, ''Gut'' is meaning ''cast out'' or ''the moving people'', and Gotland was called Gutland simply meaning ''land of the out cast''. Gotlanders even had a own language called Gutnish (Gutniska in Swedish). The new generations don't us it anymore but we still use the dialect and some words that the mainland Swedes don't understand. Look at Wikipedia on Gotlanders and you can see the link between the Goths and the Gutar.
The word ''Gut'' in Proto-germanic could have the meaning as the word ''Urgjuta'' and it means Cast out or to move. If you think of Tjelvar the discoverer of Gotland and the first Gotlander he could be a out cast from a tride and he had to move, so he took a boat and sailed then he found Gotland and it became the ''land of the out cast''. Or it could be that the Goths like the Gutasaga said is that the island became overcrowded and some people had to move and be out casters and they got the name Goths then their homeland was the out casters land. This is just on theory it dosen't mean it's true and facts. I read about these to (Citing from Wikipedia about Gutasagan) - ''According to legend they descended from a man named Þjelvar (Tjelvar) who was the first to discover Gotland. Þjelvar had a son named Hafþi who wedded a fair maiden named Hvitastjerna. These two were the first to settle on Gotland. Hafþi and Hvitastjerna later had three children, Guti, Graipr and Gunfjaun. After the death of their parents, the brothers divided Gotland into three parts and each took one, but Guti remained the highest chieftain and gave his name to the land and its people''
Some arguments why people think Gutar and Goths are the same
1) Gutar and Goths are the same words
2) In Gutasaga people is called 'þiauþ' and the goths called themselves for guthiuda
3) Gutnish are the most similar language to the Gothic language
4) The Goths emigrated from an island that stretches straight down to Poland where the Goths where first found. the island where the goths emigrated from looked like a lemon leaf and were just two days trip away
5) Immigration was recorded in the 13th century
6) Roman coins
(I copied this from Guteinfo.com)
Nigel Thornberry and yet they act like turks.
Romanians are latin not gothic.
@twój stary Ofcourse it was also slavs that was founders of Rurik dynasty, but Rurik himself was Nordic and had a varagian dad so both Vikings (varagians) and slavs was the founders and the population in Rurik Dynasty.
Taylan Safak So? It is better to be a goth than a latin and better to be a latin than dacian? Wtf.
And I'm a Romanian myself smart enough to understand that Jordanes made a huge mistake confusing the goths with the getae ( dacians ).
I'm feeling the whole Dad Nationalism thing you got going on with the tucked in polo, boss.
Mark S. tucked in shirts are the last implicit stand of Indo European identity
@@Survivethejive totally agree! Our styles became primitive and retarded. Compared with our ancestors we look like dressed chimps
Most ancient Europeans did not tuck their clothes in 😂 that is a silly look.
By that standard why do you have tattoos?
@@natedill9180 they believe Germanic people as their Nordic cousins were tattooed. Same as some bands of Celts across the continent.
I find symbology so fascinating. It occurs to so many humans across so many eras and cultures to draw similar solar symbols. The swastika, swirl, black sun, celtic cross, sun disc, and kolovrat are all likely variations of the same symbol. I'd love to see you do a video on it
That would be extremely interesting. Please, Survive the Jive?
Its indo European in origin
@@thePyiott dunno bout the swastika. Cuz it was found among the mayans and arabs too
All Germanics should visit this place.
Love your videos, I'm learning alot about my own herritage while watcning! Really feels like a proper TV-Documentary series.
Sebastian Mauritsson bro i m from india...goths r called jatts here...i m a goth or jatt...r u a goth...i m researching on my race...we came india thousand years ago...sm ancestr went europe...we r totally difrent from othr indians...my surname is mander...can u tell me any goths or jatt liv there?
Solar Cults... very Indo-European :)
Evola agrees.
They are called surya - vanshi s in hindu scriptures..surya - sun and vanshi - family / clan.
These rune/picture stones are incredible, the solar imagery in particular with the coils, serpents, and all of the detailed symbolism. Having not seen most of these before, it invokes a sense of clarity... Of a pure, powerful reverence deeply connected to cyclical life, and death. Those are certainly some of the most beautiful and meaningful monuments in the world, in my opinion. The lack of an appearance of material excess that I get a sense of from other (often more recent) art definitely contributed to the perception of stoic spirituality.
The scenes of the dark room and stones were great, it had a highly esoteric feel. Excellent ambiance and it fit well with the theorising about the motivations behind the engravings.
I highly recomend you to visit (and deeply investigate) all the lands up to the river EBRO (ebre, ebro, ibero, ib-herri, ibai herriko) from the north west of Iberia, to the extreme north east, passing from Galicia, through Asturias, Cantabria and euskal herria to Catalonia, (this last one, also called "Gothia" on the early middle ages).
In Catalonia, the people have an ancient-pagan fest celebrated on Christmas, which is the "TIÓ", which is a log that the children feed every day, and the parents hide some presents or gifts on it, covering it with a blanket. The day of 25 the children hit hard the log with large wood sticks, and then with illusion discover the gifts under, thinking that the log has shitted the gifts thanks to fed it. On the next year it's a tradition to burn this log and bring another one. Catalans aren't normally realized about the pagan ritual hidden in this tradition, but... I find it quite related to the Yule celebration, because there's a similar tradition of burning the old wood log every year, I think. It's only my humble opinion. Maybe I'm wrong... But in any case, why not?¿.
For some people everything is phallic. Very informative video btw, thanks.
Yamnayan Vegan Very Freudian :D
Quite true, to some extent. Everything looks like a penis. Except for penis.
Sometimes a penis is just a penis
@@1978Borderline . Perhaps, a Yungian perspective would be better.
Welcome to clownword: a perverted cokehead and random theory composer decides what your history is and what your ancestors were specifically because he is from a different tribe that has appointed itself as an authority.
Man, your channel is just perfect. Glorious work you have been doing.
I agree with one exception - the audio was inconsistent.
I was hoping good ole Varg would weigh in with his usual "yes, but you forgot to mention that the Goths were psychically connected to the earth mother by their clothing, which was stitched out of magical bear placenta. You can read all about it in my wife's book 'The Secret Of The She Bear'".
I'm going to look for the book bear cult should be better known. Granted it's difficult to find sources
It's so very modern to interpret everything as phallic, isn't it ...
Edward Kiel the stones are literally giant dicks
Connor Senier several of the ones he showed had a more axe head like shape.
When you see a keyhole, do you think "that hole is literally a miniature dick"
Edward Kiel reminds me of that joke where trampy girls are said to have bad locks, while trampy blokes are said to have a "master key"
@Thatshow ED Calm down, we're talking about pricks. Didn't need to raise your flag.
Also it's super fucking common to have phallic symbolism, and if you think otherwise might I remind you that our ancestors didn't have modern schooling.
THEY WERE NOT US. They were simpler.
Brilliant video,I've never paid anyone for making youtube vids before but these deserve it.
thanks!
The interwoven swirls and animal shapes also remind me of the Scythian style - another branch of the family?
Matthijs van Guilder correct
@@SLVGGED.VP.MCMXCI According to the Indo-European steppe hypothesis which is currently the most widely accepted theory of Indo-European origins the Germanic people are indeed descendant from Scythians, sort off. Technically the Scythians are a later people of course and the Germanic people don't descend directly from them but they do descend from steppe nomads that lived a very similar life to the Scythians in roughly the same area as the Scythians and both are Indo-European people so... that old history book was pretty much correct.
@@SLVGGED.VP.MCMXCI im not so sure its that alone, the Celts in the UK where of Bavarian origin migrating to the UK around 1200BC, they have similar art but its much further away from Steppe tribes to influence the art, so its a puzzling one.
@@SLVGGED.VP.MCMXCI "What seems to be a rather common belief among older Swedish historians was that Swedes were descendants of Scythians. As a Swede I had never even heard about this connection before I read those old books that nobody seems to value these days." A common belief among older Danish historians as well, according to popular history books published in the 1990s I have read. Scythian descent is IIRC also claimed by Poles, Ukrainians as well as the Ossetians in Georgia and Russia.
You are welcome to Poland. We have stone circles probably built by the Goths in North Poland.
The best known are in Pomerania and Kashubia, and are probably the remnants of the Goths' journey from Scandinavia to the south, to the Black Sea. They all come from the first in the CE, so they are almost 3000 years younger than the famous Stonehenge.
What prompted the Germanic tribe of the Goths to leave Scandinavia? Archaeologists have not been able to determine this. They were most likely looking for fertile lands. In Kashubia, the Goths stayed until the beginning of the third century, when they went on a further hike to the southeast of Europe in search of the legendary land of Oium.
The Goths settled on the hiking route and mixed with the local population. They built their traditional stone circles and burial mounds, only that they were built quite carelessly, so they could not be used as astronomical instruments.
The most famous stone circles were created in Grzybnica near Koszalin and in Odry and Węsiorach in Kashubia. Some time ago we were in Odry, and now we passed this place on our summer tour. We highly recommend visiting it because it has an amazing atmosphere. We would write that magical, but it does not fall out.
Nice episode! Gotland is home away from home, almost more home than home. parts of my family is from Visby and Fårö. used to run around in and around those ruins as a kid.
The native horse (or pony) "Gotlandsruss" make's me wonder about the word Russ, maybe worth investigating. they've been on the island since the iron age. and apparently are related to the extinct Tarpan.
anyway, Gotland is a beautiful island. well worth a visit :)
John Doe: a German word for horse is: "Ross". Today it's more a literal word and the standard word is "Pferd" but it's still understood and in use.
wow i had no idea about that, thanks for sharing!
John Doe The Russian word for German is nyemets which means ''idiot''. Unless the German word Ross means horse's ass, I don't think they were using it to describe or out of respect for Russians.
Rhys Tomos There are differences between different European peoples. We SHOULD respect and celebrate that and not fight each other, but ignoring the past and dishonest PC BS is equally bad. Ask a Swede about a Finn or visa versa. I think honest opinions create healthy mutual respect.
as you might have guessed I'm a swede, I have nothing against my neighbours to the east. the finns I've met have been amazing people, of course we joke about them and they joke about us but it's all good fun in the end of the day, no hard feelings.
I judge everyone as individuals and not as a group of people or because your nationality.
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and regarding Rhys Tomos comment about "the biggest battle we have known in our history" I have no idea what he's meaning, maybe it's the battle to keep our humanity because these are dark times when some people value the lives of other so cheap that they rather let them drown in the Mediterranean then to open their homes for those in need.
My family is from gotland. Thats where they lived and some probably still do before migrating to the western united states. I believe the one who migrated was names hans odahl heindriksson his father was obviously heindrik and i believe his last name was sigurdsson. Oddly enough I can't trace that family line back further than 1500. But another branch of this same family has a direct recorded line all the way back to harald blatand or harald "bluetooth" the first king of Denmark. His father was supposed to be the viking king Gorm de gamle. Who is supposed to be the son of Sigurd ragnarsson son of ragnor lodbrok or lothbrook. I find this amazingly fascinating and love your videos! Keep up the great work!
Wait same, but Quarnberg, from Gotland straight to UT. I wonder if they travelled together!
Brilliant video! Shared! There are a far and wide untouched people in Northern Europe that would love to see these videos, you definitely need to extend the tentacles and tap into a wider audience! Marketing! 🤔 Great content and commend your arguments, all backed up! 💪👍
Great video, as always. But I'd like to adress a few points.
It is unlikely, that the sun symbols at 7:40 mark the "four seasons", because in the old germanic lunisolar calendar the year was only divided in summer and winter (spring being the beginning of the first and autumn being its End). However they could still mark the four points of the solar cycle (solstices and equinoxes).
With the depictions shown on the Snake-Witch stone it might be worth mentioning that a similar, but more stylized "Person" is shown on the later runestone DR 284 (interpreted as the giantess Hyrrokin) and that the animal heads above could be related to Odhinn (Eagle), Ingvi (Boar) and Thurr (Serpent), the same Gods who were honoured in the viking age Temple of Gamla Uppsala.
Animal headed triskelions can also be found all over the germanic Europe. For an example on an Anglo-Saxon fibula, Frankish and Alemannic ornamental disks as well as on Bajuwarian and Langobardian shield buckles, most of them showing only eagle heads, a few only snake heads.
In addition Widukind of Corvey tells us in his "Res gestae Saxonicae" (The Deeds of the Saxons) about the erection of a field sign in honour of the sun Goddess depicting "a Lion, a Dragon and above those a flying Eagle". Although he doesn't mention a triskelion, in relation to the Sun it'd be the most likely variant.
The named Animals could also be related to the three gods mentioned in the old Saxon Baptismal Vow (Uoden=Eagle, Thunaer=Dragon, Saxnote="Lion" [wich was unknown to germanic tribes and often the later replacement for bears and wolves]).
But enough of my gibberish, please excause my bad english.
Keep up the great work and best wishes from the Brotherland lower Saxony.
thanks for that.
There was a species of lion that lived in Europe until the Roman republican era and in some places even longer, so the Lion would certainly have been known to the proto-Germanic tribes. They may not have depicted it in much of their art, but it hadn't gone extinct yet.
More great content. Keep it up lad.
Your video was worth $58.29AUD,because i loved the video so much and the original Tri-Beast Nordic Triskelion that I impulse bought one of your singlets from your merch store!Thankyou Tom, for helping me connect with my Celtic/Norse roots,I'm totally hooked!I will support your channel by purchasing more of your Merch,which is the coolest!For me it's about creating a bridge from the Iron Age/Viking Age to the 21st century, and celebrating our culture and traditions now!
Coar, stone ship grave w wild flowers and pine backdrop straddled by Anglo
Master Brew underneath a Survive the Jive video? This can't be real, next Mosley will rise from the grave. Everyone of your videos is a work of art, seriously.
I absolutely concur. Everything made by both you and STJ have been fantastic.
Isn't it awesome.
The Goths ended migrating from the Island into eastern Europe were they splited into Ostrogods and Visigoths, The first went to italy and the second ones ended up settling in Spain. So basically, those goths descendance lives now in Southern Europe rather than in Scandinavia. Actually the Gothic language was spoken in Spain till the 8th-9th century. My family on both sides comes from an area where the Visigoths settled. Im 185, blond hair, green-bluish eyes, red cheecks and germanic features, and so does my family. Most are blond and have even redheads. Im always confused as Dutch, German, Swedish or Norwegian, not only abroad but in my own country. So I guess I may have gothic descent in me.
Or Vandalic, Suevic or Celtic.
@@ew-uy6cs whatever
The Jutes as well could have been descended from the Goths/Geats who migrated to jutland, where there is a fair amount of evidence for.
the colour of your hair has nothing to do with you being descended from the goths their admixture in spain is negligible and you almost certainly have none in you
It's the same people as us Swedes, the only difference is some of them migrated and were called the goths by others. Spain and ITaly today to a large degree look middle-eastern. Some people who are blonde and more light might have gothic ancestry tho that's true and probably likely, especially in Italy since the goths ruled Rome for 700 years.
The model of the sun drawn carriage is very similar to Helios in Greek mythology, the date of the model dates around 1100 BC - 550 BC, Greek mythology is around 1000 BC give or take, interesting when you taking into account in what you said about Hercules strangling the snake's 12.24.
Gotland is so amazing. I purchased a replica of a Viking war axe(battle ready, of course) that was an almost exact copy of a war axe found in Fole, Gotland and dated to the 10th century (900's)
In America, they teach us in school that Gotland got it's name from the goats that were left there to pasture. I'm not joking.
This is one of the best channels anywhere! Your content is enlightening and beautiful! Thank you for your work! Also may I ask what the song at 6:27 is?
wolcensmen- sunne
Loves this History!!! I have fallen in love with Anthropology!!
Those horses look an awful lot like the Uffington white horse.
AryanWarrior Bogpill1488 good point
you may wanna look up the freemason / druid connection to horses and them being shaped (musculature and genetics and training in posture) like a snake, is optimal for carrying a rider and as a confidence indicator / rank indicative of a strong horse.
12:10 That Völva depiction is so much like the Minoan snake goddess figurines from Crete.
Beautiful stones in this video, they remind me why I chose the Scandinavistics faculty at the university 16 years ago...
thank you for your video. I found this very interesting especially since im undertaking old norse studies at uni! keep up the great work! Will definitely subscribe
Gotland
Nice to know about far beautiful places and its history.Very informative video STJ
Similar work by the Picts, on stones.
Thats the key question.
I’m 85% Swedish (Gotland was the highest region but there were 6 Swedish regions where my ancestors came from) and 15% Scottish. This was very interesting to me. Thank you!
Great work Tom.
Please fix your sound balance. One minute we can't hear you and the next our ears get blasted. Your uploads are very good and informative. The Celtic and Germanic bronze age was quite important in European history.
yes sound levels are better now
"Huar ik im, midzani ik im, dzar is ains Gutiksland"
There is no Homeland in the spirit of the Goths.
Greetings from Spain, one of the Homelands of the Goths.
Which language is that? Where did you get it from?
hahahahaaaaa...¿What part of the history of the Goths don't you know?. A simple visit to wikipedia will make you clear:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visigothic_Kingdom
"where I am, as long as I am, that is a Gothic land"
1. It is a Gothic aphorism written in gothic language
that version can be seen in Spanish webs and refers to a Visigoth aphorism, probably not an odd but a rather old version. I suppose that the Spanish Visigoths transcribed it just like this.
Yes, it makes sense!!. Z in academic spanish is always "TH"...also...no problem!!
Oh my, I've always had an interest in Gotland and curiosity about its dialect and didn´t know it had a Danish past, this is the second time I confirm a Danish connection (I love Danish culture, needless to say, it´s one of my cultural passions in Germanic languages) with a Germanic-speaking region I admired (the other being Schleswig-Holstein in Germany)!
By the way, although I find ancient Gothic beautiful (whatever has been retrieved from it), I meant the modern Gutnish dialect of Gotland, which needs urgent preservation efforts.
The drawings are indeed unmistakenly Indo-European, by the way!
Unfortunately, I can´t become a patreon but I hope many who can afford it to do it, cause this is a serious and very educational channel!
Thanks for the most educational video!
@Plubzzo Oh, I'm so sorry to read that but thanks for the update. In the early years of the past decade (the 2000's) as a person who´s been interested in European minority languages for decades, I made virtual contact with one elderly Swedish scholar who, in turn, put me into contact with a most intelligent student of Physics or Maths who was very keen on Germanic-Scandinavian dialects. I seldom get news from him nowadays (he´s finished his doctorate by now) but he had told me the last time we exchanged an email and I asked him about the situation of Gutnish, and summing up what he replied, it looked like no progress had been made in almost two decades. One thing I never understood, however, is if Gutnish is tonal, could you please help me out with that info? I ask this cause I'm no good with linguistic tones (that is, tones which are suprasegmental phonemes, making a difference in the meaning of words which has them) and it would make no sense in trying to learn any language which has them.
@Plubzzo First, I must tell you that neither activists nor scholars would ever think of practical use or financial return when it comes to studying a regional language. We do it for the very sake of their cultural value itself and, in the case of scholars (or simply amateurs like me who also love such studies), for their meaning in philological comparative studies, in this case, within the Germanic branch of the Indo-European linguistic tree.
However, even if Gutnish doesn´t have tones (and I hope it doesn´t from the bottom of my heart :-)), I will probably not find either the time nor the resources to do it, as I already learn other lesser used languages and most of the times it seems 24 hours in a day is not enough, sigh (one also has a life and many sorts of problems to deal with and they always get in the way). Nevertheless, I will try and find more sources on it on the web, as I hope the activists for its preservation do not give up in their effort to preserve it.
Believe me, each language (and the ancestral culture it represents) is the precious core of a people´s soul. If Gotlanders lose Gutnish forever, an irreplaceable part of their very soul will be lost as well. Please, don´t let that happen.
P.S.: I know Latin is one of the old languages with more visible presence in modern languages, and I even though I try to review what I learned in the few terms I studied it at College decades ago, I way prefer Old English :-). But I do love Italian!
@Plubzzo I'm not saying these problems can be easily dribbled or even solved but if nothing is done by grassroots movements, the authorities won´t do it either. Other minorities are succeding in these efforts, just look at the Cornish, some decades ago every College text stated that Kernewek (Cornish) was extinct, now they can´t say that anymore, fortunately. And though Breton has to fight hard the centralizing French government and even the enemies within the very Breton movement of the present linguistic approach (I´ve seen some activists calling the present Breton as 'fake' and I think to myself, well at least it´s being taught and alive, whereas the same people who criticize it haven´t done anything that I know of to teach what they think to be the 'true Breton' either!), it´s doing much better than Irish (oh my that absurd Irish spelling is insane)in my opinion.
If you know some youths or any activist of any age who is engaged in its preservation, talk to them, try and make them get interested in uploading videos on CZcams teaching the basics of the language, singing pop songs in a Gutnish version (Disney songs are amazing tools to make children want to use their ancestral tongues due to their appeal and if a lesser used language manages to dubb a Disney movie in their regional, it will have a great asset to win the fight with the mainstream language), poems, little stories, etc!
Please, let the Gute in you come out and resist the linguistic acculturation, wake up Gutes, don´t let Gutnish die! I beg you!
By the way, I rememembered now the struggle of Wymysorys (a Germanic language) activists in preserving their language (spoken in only one city!), which was in dire risk of extinction and they are pulling it off (succeeding in doing it). I left Facebook over a year ago but I remember that they have a page there.
Very enjoyable, learning the history of fellow European ancestors is priceless
That‘s bone.
what?
Hi, 🙋♂️I'm Indian but I'm a Jat or goth by blood. The same bloodline/race/DNA/genetics we (we are popular in india by the name "Jats") share in india. Long time ago my ancestors came to india from so many areas of Central Asia and Europe in search of fertile land.
I find your video very interesting. As my visigoth ancestors said, awiliudô (which means thank you)
Thank you for watching
Fabulous and richly informative in just a few minutes
your video's are so informative,always look forward to the next one. Thankyou.
Are you familiar with the historc novel "Ein Kampf um Rom" (=A Struggle for Rom) by Felix Dahn?
It's about the East-Goths in Italy. Great book, very Indo-European.
So lovely to see a video like this of my home island! but if you missed it, be sure if you plan to visit Gotland another time to travel to Hammars, on the eastern side. It was a bronze age/viking age fishing town with now nothing left but the enormous forest of collections of stone graves, even a few kilometers away from the sea there are huge man-made hills and stone graves.
Also as i see you have walked around in Visby, did you know there is a whole underground medieval sewage system under the whole city?
wow, wish i could have seen that too
Thank you for the video. The artifacts were really fascinating.
As a Swede who has never been to Gotland, I really appreciate this video! :D
wonderful place for a holiday!
hey there :) love your videos! would enjoy them even more if the audio levels from clip to clip were more equalized. sometimes the transitions are quite abrasive! thanks so much
I expected more dark clothes in Gotland
Our cultures are amazing
Letting you know, I went out and bought some polos because of your look in the video. I'm really interested in the history of your vids, but you've got some young-cool-historian-aesthetic going on in this one lol.Have a good one, peace, from Texas.
Another excellent fascinating video. Keep 'em coming!
I'd say the valknut has something to do with long-seeing, making or creating an overarching plan. Odin and the bird emblem are fairly clear reads, andin the boat scene, the valknut is at the aft of the ship, starbord side. Aft and strbord is the traditional position of the helmsman in a longship; more than anyone else on a ship, it is the helmsman's job to see the plan and carry it out.
After watching your video, and looking at the pictures and what you say about the Valknut, I think that maybe the Valknut is something in between, a bit of a hybrid of the two concepts you present. This is the only running theme I can get between the images. That there it is a symbol of divinity, in a way, marking the intention of the quest or sacrifice.
Vandals spoke an east Germanic language too.
And the Burgundians
Fantastic video! I'm glad there was no monuments to Robert Smith! ;)
Gotland is kind of the Sicily of the north - strategically placed and therefore invaded by many mighty powers during the centuries. Many interesting layers of history.
This very Indo European art came from a very Indo European Tribe. That lived in a very Indo European Location known as Very Indoeuropeanland.
@12:25 with the Goddess figure holding the snakes - I note a similarity to certain ancient Mediterranean statuary, Minoan IIRC. It's sort of a long shot, and surely these were different cultures, but interesting nonetheless. Other than that, good work here on this presentation. Gothic culture is one of my interests.
The image of the volva grabbing two serpents it's quite similar to the Minoan "serpent goddess" and also if I'm not mistaken some Samothracian depictions of mysteryc cults. I assume there must be a connection but I do not know if it exists an academic opinion on the subject.
The ship stone settings, we have them in Norway too.
The images on the stone at 7:16 makes me think of the four seasons, the equinoxes and the solstices with the Earth at the center. The two creatures being the increase of sunlight for the red and the increase of night for the black, leaving the man with the shield being the moon, or, because he has a stick in his one of his hands, he is the one who measures time. The is the cycle of time.
Not many people know that Goths caused the fall of the western roman empire and finally founded the first romano-barbaric kingdom in Italy, even creating a quite powerful state.. were they not have been defeated by an army sent from eastern Roman empire, nowadays Italy was probably called "Gotlandia"
Very nice video, we’ve been interested in these for years so we knew most of it and we have seen all of these places and stones, but it was nice seeing your input.
Please fix your volume levels, it becomes a bit uncomfortable to watch when you have children and play it on the TV 😅. Very easy to fix for the next vids!
Thanks
Your channel is excellent.
it seems very similar to the sumerian boats full of people crossing the river to the after life (milky way), also i think the presence of a symbol associated with sacrifices and death reinforces the same idea, perhaps ancestors worship?! great work thank you from Portugal
Thomas Sheridan recommended you, very interesting sir.
Gotland, that place that so impressed Red Orm. If I remember right Red Orm was impressed as there even existed a place whose only purpose was to serve drinks. That sort of place we would call a pub in English or krog in Swedish today.
The snake-witch stone...that woman holding the snakes reminds me of the ancient "snake goddess/priestess" depictions, from the Minoan palace of Knossos. That's interesting...
5:43 Chad slap
Out metaldetecting on the mainland (Mälardalen) I once found a 1500's silver coin from Gotland in very very nice condition, having half my genes from Gotland I found that pretty cool... 1537 ... with a gotlandsbagge on one side... only ever found one of those ever... close by I found a Byzantine denari from the 900's... there's so many coins hiding in the ground...
Please tell us what music you use in your videos. It’s always great.
thank yew thomas. wonderful stuff. boy if stone could float i'd sail that boat. have fun gare
These stone remind me of the “Pictish” stones we have, they have a very similar look. Also that first stone looked the shape of a bronze axe.
*edit* had a couple dna tests done. One upload company traces a dna match to a sample in Gotland
i reckon there was an ancient lost connection between eastern & north eastern scotland & eastern britain, with scandinavia especially in the bronze age & the languages were much more similar than now.
Another great video, to be expected.
Jordanes and many other scholars say that the goths were the gets or getae in fact. What fost You think about that?
Mishu Grosu that is incorrect
The symbol at 9:08 looks just like the Georgian symbol of sun, life and eternity: the Borjgali. The Georgian national rugby team carries it on their shirts. Georgia itself is a very interesting country in the Caucasus region. They are not related to Indo-European, or Semitic races. Some say they are relatives of Basque people. Georgians have their unique language and alphabet . Most of them are white skinned and black eyed with black hair, but there is also significant amount of Georgians with blonde hair and blue eyes. I wonder, why does that symbol look so much like Georgian Borjgali.
maybe if not genertic influence there was maybe cultural influence on georgia?
georgians are descendants of caucasus hunter gatherers. caucasus hunter gatherers made 50% of indo europeans genetics and cultre :)
@@tomatensoup190 georgians are descendants of caucasus hunter gatherers. caucasus hunter gatherers made 50% of indo europeans genetics and cultre :)
Goths, getae, jatt, jutes r difrent names of same race....
+ Jutes jute jaet jaeatas Geatas Gutes Goths Geats Geutar Gotar = jutt jaat
Well, Im loving your channel.
Hey, one of those disc symbols is very similar to the Armenian symbol of eternity (my current profile image). The symbol has been accepted as an official Armenian character in the Unicode standard. How Indo European are my people? Well, the Armenian language is an independent branch of the Indo European language family, with no other languages preceding it.
no existing or recorded languages you mean. Of course there were preceding languages. Modern Armenians plot between Iranians and Turks on a PCA. modern people of the Caucuses have steppe ancestry, but are different from the original Indo-Europeans because you also have Asian/Turkic and Middle Eastern DNA which they did not.
Nice video, will you do one on the Lombards in Italy?
Claudio Di Domenico maybe one day. Am visiting Rome next week so will do something there
It would be great
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Can you please do a video on whether you think the Scottish people are more Germanic or Celtic? I would like your take on it.
The Scots were Gaels who raided along Dal Riata, when the Picts still were in control of, what today is Scotland.
What do you even mean with "celtic" and "germanic"? Between 1000 bc and 200 bc celtic speakers dominated Europe. There is alot of celtic influences in germanic culture. For example, Odin might be a celtic god Lugh.
Another example is how the legend of the goddess macha and a chariot race is written down in the Ulster Cycles (800 ad). And can also be found in petroglyps from western coast of sweden 200bc-0 (dating uncertain). The first mentiooning of germanics in history, the cimbrean and teuton invasion of Rome 100 bc, scholars are still unsure if these were germanic speakers or celtic speakers. The tendency is that they were germanic speakers but that teuton and cimbrian are celtic words. Just goes to show how intertwined celtic and germanic is.
The Scottish are Irishmen in drag.
Martin Andersson I am referring to the Insular Celts e.g. Britons, Gaels, Picts, etc. and Germanic groups like the Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Norwegians, etc. that settled Britain. I have heard that Insular Celts are distinct from the Hallstatt Celts and originate from Iberia rather than Central Europe.
Dirty dan That is somewhat true but not completely. Yes, the Scottish people are actually named after a Gaelic group from Ireland but they didn't have as big of an influence on Scotland as believed. Scotland has a largely underestimated influence from the Angles which settled in large numbers in Eastern Lowland Scotland. This is is reflected in Scottish place names, surnames, genealogy and definetly in the linguistics of Scotland which draws a lot of resemblance to Old English. Don't forget that just south of the Scottish-English border is the part of England with the highest average percentage of Anglo DNA in the country.
The stone 7:12 to 8:32, I can only imagine that the swirls mean that an age rises and declines before moving on to the next.
It'd be nice to see a book on the Gutnish language come out, along with those on Bornholmsk and Elfdalian.
this is a great presentation, too bad the stones were moved, curious to were they actually where found, if that is still known
9:20 Very interesting symbols and images. Do the numbers hold any significance perhaps? 12 sections in the central wheel--months? And 33 circles around the perimeter--approximate number of days in a month? Also, 4 creatures inhabiting the corners--the four seasons? Could this be an ancient solar calendar, with longer months, at 33 days each? Also have you heard of the work of Farley Mowat in regards to the stone boats? A book by Mowat called the Farfarers goes into great detail about his theories about the stone boats being foundations upon which the early Nordic shipbuilders rested their overturned boats. As they travelled the north seas by means of boats which could be flipped over to become winter homes, they had the advantage of being able to maintain forward progress and not necessarily have to return all the way home each season. The same sturdy foundations could be used and reused, even by different travellers. Very interesting video, thank you.
A beautiful, culturally rich island. History everywhere.
The serpent is also important in many other cultures in the World. Here in Australia the Rainbow Serpent built and formed the land.
The largest part of the Germanic blood in the modern Italians is from Goths and, mostly, from Langabrts. Both natives of Gotland (island and peninsula because Gotland is not only the island). Basially every modern Italian has a small percentage of Gothic and Langbard blood, these populations made a blood union between north and south Europe.
@13:50 This is the depiction of the moment Lucifer was captured and cast out of heaven. Michael the arch angle is holding the symbol of Odin (The Highest authority in Heaven) along with his army of angles on the right. On the left are Lucifer's supporters, soon to be cast out with him. We see this as Level #5 in the monument @10:20. This depicts the 7 levels of heaven. We live in a 10 dimensional universe, we know of 3, there are 7 more.
That 3-bladed fan design is found in celtiberian stone age carvings in Galicia Spain.
Very informative!
I like the idea of the Valknut representing pride, considering the story of Hrugnir (pride being his main characteristic) and the description of his heart. The symbol might be used to symbolize an honorable death or a sacrifice? Like the picturestone depicting what some think is the bloodeagle, maybe he asked to be sacrificed by blood eagle to preserve his pride/honor for some crime he committed?
The bronze age cult were the mystery sea people's who collapsed the bronze age in 1177 bc. The tragedy Tuireans sons. The Egyptians called them tarshish and deniens, the Greeks called them Daniens, and Dorians, the Irish called them the Tuathe De Dannan. Look at the pictures in Spain of Tartessos, the city of Tyre, the Turien sea in Italy. The Etruscans, Phoenicians, Mynoans, Basque and others were related, influenced or in contact with them.
I reckon before the Bronze Age collapse, scandinavia the as strongly connected to the eastern Mediterranean via the rivers of Eastern Europe, as part of the Amber Trade.
Right along Eastern Europe, connecting the Baltic to the east Mediterranean, there were the “Danann” peoples & culture.
After the Bronze Age collapse, scandinavia then became a strong influence on Western Europe, with “Late Nordic Bronze Age” migrations from scandinavia to Britain, the Low Countries & Gauls.
This migration and the language from Scandinavia, I believe is what caused the “Celtic” language of eastern Britain, the Low Countries & Northern Gaul to become “P-Celtic”.
These peoples also came to Ireland, but had little effect on the “Q-Celtic” languages of Ireland & Western Britain. Though a new “p element” was introduced.
Another point about the image of the Völva and her two snakes, it reminds me a little bit of what we have found in the Mithraea across Rome and even in the UK: the image of the lion-headed man/woman with a snake coiled round him/her as he holds two keys. Perhaps unrelated, but it just looks a bit similar.
From what you are saying I think you believe "actibusque Getarum" (Getica) is a fictive book. Some believe its real others claim its fairy tale invention . Written by Jordanes.
Adrian A he got thracian getae and goths confused. Folk etymology of old times often caused such mistakes such as snorri thinking aesir was related to asia
yep.. thats the problem with ancient history, everybody has theories and versions.
Was there a DNA study about some prehistoric skeletals which were related to modern day Finns? Is there a lot of graves studied on Gothland?
Very valuable video
The Snake Witch art on the stone at 11:57 heavily reminds me of Tiw and the two wolf-like figures side by side of him found at Sutton Hoo in Suffolk. Possibly a connection between the two symbols?
Please write a book about indo European customs and religion I would buy a book like that.