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  • Imaginary root of matrix
    In this video, I'll find the imaginary root of a matrix! What is it and how will I do it? Watch this video to find out!
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Komentáře • 88

  • @squarehead6c1
    @squarehead6c1 Před 2 lety +88

    "What is this used for? Maybe quantum mechanics ... that is always the answer." :-) You are a Maths comedian, Dr Peyam.

    • @BRUBRUETNONO
      @BRUBRUETNONO Před 2 lety

      That's the question ... Use of it ? Quantum mechanics ? An example ?

  • @alessandrorossi1294
    @alessandrorossi1294 Před 2 lety +41

    This method requires A to be diagonalizable, but in fact that's not required to calculate the ith root of a matrix, it just gives some handy shortcuts for a closed form answer.

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  Před 2 lety +11

      How would you do it in general?

    • @MathFromAlphaToOmega
      @MathFromAlphaToOmega Před 2 lety +16

      @@drpeyam You can use the Taylor series for log(1+M) to get
      log(1+(A-1))=(A-1)-(A-1)^2/2+...
      Then multiplying by -i gives -i*log A, and using the Taylor series for e^M, we get
      A^i=I+(-i*log A)+(-i*log A)/2!+...
      The only problem with this is that the Taylor series for log(1+M) will only converge if the eigenvalues have absolute value less than 1, but maybe there's a way around that.

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  Před 2 lety +5

      That’s very nice too

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  Před 2 lety +10

      There’s something called Abel series theorem that takes care of that

    • @edal7066
      @edal7066 Před 2 lety +5

      @@MathFromAlphaToOmega If you consider A as a linear operator acting on a hilbert spaces , it sufficies to take Hilbert-Schmidt norm to be strictly smaller than 1 in order the series to converge

  • @blakemaths2469
    @blakemaths2469 Před 2 lety +24

    "What is this useful for in practice?" Us real mathematicians don't concern ourselves with such questions

  • @algorithminc.8850
    @algorithminc.8850 Před 2 lety +6

    Only wish the root that's lifting a section of driveway out front was imaginary ... Great video, as always (enjoyed the poke at quantum too) ... Cheers ...

  • @mertaliyigit3288
    @mertaliyigit3288 Před 2 lety +14

    Next up: finding the ith root of derivative of a function

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  Před 2 lety +5

      ^ Yeah

    • @tomasstride9590
      @tomasstride9590 Před 2 lety +1

      @@drpeyam I have seen techniques such as this used before. I am very uncertain about them. The thing is to my very old mathematical view point what you are doing is making an analytical continuation from the integers into the complex plane . May be this is rigorous but there are examples when doing this causes problems.

  • @Nand0san35
    @Nand0san35 Před 2 lety +4

    It’s always hard for a student to find some examples… maybe not a formal form but sometimes, when I am studying it’s hard to find more intuitive first steps, there is always time for a more formal way in the books… thank you very much

  • @MrRyanroberson1
    @MrRyanroberson1 Před 2 lety +6

    0:50 makes me think about how amazing (i) is with the property: x^(1/i) = 1/x^i
    solving...
    x^(p + 1/p) = 1
    -> p + 1/p = 0 or x = 1; since this is supposed to hold for all x, we take the former.
    -> p^2 = -1
    this really is a property that uniquely follows from the definition of (i)

  • @youtubeviolatedme7123
    @youtubeviolatedme7123 Před 2 lety +1

    This is why I love the recommendation algorithms of the internet. I always seem to learn something about a topic that has never even crossed my mind

  • @NonTwinBrothers
    @NonTwinBrothers Před 2 lety +5

    Next up: Finding the matrix root of _i_ :)

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  Před 2 lety +3

      Oooooh I like that hahaha

    • @phee4174
      @phee4174 Před 2 lety

      that's actually not too difficult if one knows euler's formula and the taylor series for e^x and the matrix is "nice"
      i is equal to e^(i*pi/2) and so the M root of i (where M is a matrix) = (e^(i*pi/2))^(1/M) = e^(i*pi/2M) = sum as n goes from 0 to infinity of (i*pi/2M)^n /n! (well assuming that the matrix can be raised to the power of any negative integer, and that this series converges)

  • @dr.rahulgupta7573
    @dr.rahulgupta7573 Před 2 lety +6

    Excellent presentation. vow !! Dr 3.14159.....m.

    • @nathanbrunet01
      @nathanbrunet01 Před 2 lety

      3.14159265358797932384623364* to be more precise

  • @atrumluminarium
    @atrumluminarium Před 2 lety +3

    It actually does pop up in quantum mechanics in a way. The time-evolution operator (if we assume H is a time independent Hamiltonian, which can be represented as a matrix) is given by U=exp(itH) so if you define A=exp(-tH) for whatever reason, you will infact get U=A^-i

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  Před 2 lety +1

      Hahahaha

    • @geoffrygifari3377
      @geoffrygifari3377 Před 2 lety +1

      Wait i've actually seen that one before... transforming t into tau = it, useful for switching between Lorentz spacetime (special relativity) and euclidean space and time (just 4D space), if you want to do that for some reason. Called "Wick rotation", i believe.

    • @atrumluminarium
      @atrumluminarium Před 2 lety

      @@geoffrygifari3377 yes that's a Wick rotation. If I recall correctly a Wick rotation of the Schrödinger equation gives the heat equation

  • @HugoHabicht12
    @HugoHabicht12 Před 2 lety +1

    „Spiel mit mir“ 🤣👍 greetings from Germany. (P.S. great channel)

  • @xaviergonzalez5145
    @xaviergonzalez5145 Před 2 lety

    I had no idea to do it!! Thaank you bro! New suscriber!

  • @Roarshark12
    @Roarshark12 Před 2 lety +1

    This was really interesting, thanks. What are some of the applications of taking imaginary roots of matrices? Also, how does this extend to quaternions/octonions/etc.?

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  Před 2 lety +2

      I mentioned applications at the end hahaha

  • @nuranichandra2177
    @nuranichandra2177 Před 2 lety

    Add to this category of problems without serious physical significance integral of a matrix

  • @hectordomingotroncoso3047

    Morning,FROM Argentina,dr.Peyam,thanks You for giving once more lesson,of knowledge,i've been watching your tutorials long time ago,every time i enjoy myself.

  • @mathisnotforthefaintofheart

    Since the i-th root isn't well defined in terms of how many roots we are expecting, (there are for example more than 2 square roots of a 2 by 2 matrix), how would we know if there is more than just one answer?

  • @rodcarre9057
    @rodcarre9057 Před 2 lety

    I like the form to solve the exercise!

  • @AtifMahmoodOfficial
    @AtifMahmoodOfficial Před 2 lety +2

    Excellent sir

  • @cbbuntz
    @cbbuntz Před 2 lety +1

    Ahh, so starting with the Fibonacci companion matrix
    [ 1 1 ]
    [ 1 0 ]
    I was able to find that the ith Fibonacci number is roughly 0.6520 + 0.3294i
    it looks like I get basically the same answers across the complex plane as the closed form formula I'm using (ignoring conjugates and a right shift)

  • @LouisEmery
    @LouisEmery Před 2 lety

    If you don't know where to go with a matrix, the answer is: find its eigenvalues !! (and eigenvectors, of course)

  • @edwardhunia6315
    @edwardhunia6315 Před 2 lety +1

    Hi Dr Peyam, I think it may be useful in a new compression algorithm. Not sure, will have to think more on the problem.

  • @bigbadwolf4075
    @bigbadwolf4075 Před 2 lety

    Can this be solved using SVD instead of eigen decomp?

  • @malouselle8031
    @malouselle8031 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you it’s great !! From France

  • @omranalomran8073
    @omranalomran8073 Před 2 lety

    Alslam Alycom Dr Peyam
    Could you please answer my question?
    If we plug i1 instead of 3 in Euler formula , we certainly get 1 to the minus i = 1
    On other hand , we can think of 1 as exp( (2)(pi)(i)) so that 1 to the minus i = exp(2 pi)
    What an amazing coincidence!

  • @reussunased5108
    @reussunased5108 Před 2 lety +3

    Next up, the ith derivative of a function

  • @parsifal8232
    @parsifal8232 Před 2 lety

    WHAT FOR ?

  • @selfification
    @selfification Před 2 lety

    Hmm there has to be a complex simplification of that (maybe in terms of sinh) but it eludes me. I do appreciate you reminding me of de Moivre's identity.

  • @MarcusCactus
    @MarcusCactus Před 2 lety

    Hey thanks ! I just realise that any a^i is on the unit circle in complex space.
    So that any complex number can be written as c*a^i . (I know, i know, it is evident, just put a=e^theta).
    But can something similar be used to delimit the domain of A^i, A being a matrix? Is there a matrix equivalent to the unit circle?
    - - Follow-up - - -
    OK, I thought it out. Please correct me if I err.
    The 2x2 real-numbered matrix A is a linear operator in R². So the complex-numbered matrix is a linear operator in C².
    The eigenvectors determine a change of base (new reference axes) and the eigenvalues an expansion/contraction along these axes/directions. In complex matrices, that expansion is in the complex (double-)plane C².
    Similarly to any complex number being equal to c*a^i, I conjecture that any complex matrix can be written as B*A^i. B is the expansion, A^i is the direction, the angle, on the (2-dimensional) circle.
    This also hints to the use: linear operations on complex vectors.
    Finally, i-th root of A is just (A -¹)^i .

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  Před 2 lety +1

      Yes there is a polar decomposition of a matrix and I think I made a video on it somewhere

  • @mastershooter64
    @mastershooter64 Před 2 lety +3

    oh wow I'm first for the first time, also dr.peyam always makes my day just a bit better due to his smile lol he's always like "thanks for watching :D" at the beginning of every video
    before watching the video I would guess that it involves the taylor series of x^(1/i) or a laurent series to be more precise

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  Před 2 lety +1

      Sort of, but I hope you watched it

  • @soufianenajari8900
    @soufianenajari8900 Před 2 lety

    How do you know that A^x=PD^xP^-1 ? I mean it's obvious for natural power but i don't see it for real / complex

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  Před 2 lety +2

      By approximating real numbers with rational ones and taking limits

  • @PackSciences
    @PackSciences Před 2 lety

    I am a bit perplex towards the check at the end in which you compute A^(1/i)^i, it feels like you just redo the steps backwards with the same assumptions.

  • @eduardvalentin830
    @eduardvalentin830 Před 2 lety

    so 1^-i=1 b/c 1=e^0 so e^0^-i=1 but what about the other ways to wirite 1(e^2pi(m)i). Are they all right? Same thing with 3^-i

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  Před 2 lety

      They’re all right, and would give you different roots

    • @MarcusCactus
      @MarcusCactus Před 2 lety

      But (ln3 + m 2π) would have the same cosinus and sinus as ln3, wouldn't they? This is one and the sale complex number. So is the final answer the same.

  • @josemartinho424
    @josemartinho424 Před 2 lety

    Well Dr Peyam very wierd question. Has application in what branch of science? I will show this to Dr Osaka ,( Portuguese mathematicean)

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  Před 2 lety

      Quantum mechanics haha

  • @ethanbeck5535
    @ethanbeck5535 Před 2 lety

    Would love to see you integrate ((sin(x^n)/(x^n(x^2+1))) from -inf to inf. Super interesting!

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  Před 2 lety

      Nice, how do you do it?

  • @rasmust5137
    @rasmust5137 Před 2 lety

    Mathematician getting adventurous :)

  • @ishaangoud3180
    @ishaangoud3180 Před 2 lety

    Anyone here believe that log should natural log and not ln.

  • @theproofessayist8441
    @theproofessayist8441 Před 2 lety

    Yes is this Dr. Peyam's Matrix Power Pizzeria? Could I request an order to go of a matrix raised to trig function? Thanks will come to pick up whenever its ready. - also looking at good math is like sampling good food

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  Před 2 lety

      That would be cool

    • @theproofessayist8441
      @theproofessayist8441 Před 2 lety

      @@drpeyam Wait I have an idea. I'm not sure if it works though maybe at least for if we raise a matrix to the sin(x) or cos(x) then we just need to concentrate on the real or imaginary parts of the complex exponential function f(x)=e^(ix). Maybe for starters what we need to look at more clearly is what does it mean to raise a matrix to the power of a function? (each element in the domain is related to exactly one element in the codomain - I'm not a logician but I wish I were so I could write this down nicely with quantifiers)

  • @akshatjangra4167
    @akshatjangra4167 Před 2 lety +1

    Next up, matrix raised to the power of a matrix

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  Před 2 lety +3

      Already done ✅

    • @akshatjangra4167
      @akshatjangra4167 Před 2 lety

      @@drpeyam Oh! I forgot, now i remember, you are great and also, its been so long since you have used a lot of chen lu, looking forward to it

  • @Eric-xh9ee
    @Eric-xh9ee Před 2 lety

    Thank you Dr. Payem. And yes your information is helpful in quantum mechanics. I was thinking about this problem a couple of weeks ago. Nth root matrices are easier to understand. Here's an example if you scroll up a little from this link, you can see a square root matrix being used in quantum computing. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_logic_gate#Controlled_gates

  • @Dhiman.Sarkar
    @Dhiman.Sarkar Před 2 lety

    Lets imagine...

  • @yoav613
    @yoav613 Před 2 lety +1

    It is amazing how little i makes this marix become a monster😀

  • @xenorzy9331
    @xenorzy9331 Před 2 lety

    interesting

  • @fonzi102
    @fonzi102 Před 2 lety

    yep, quantum mechanics.

    • @diegotristan8234
      @diegotristan8234 Před 2 lety

      Hi, would you give an example, please?

    • @fonzi102
      @fonzi102 Před 2 lety

      @@diegotristan8234 time evolution operator, it can be rappresented as an exponential operator

  • @zenobikraweznick
    @zenobikraweznick Před 2 lety

    Next: finding the root of all evil.

  • @jeffreycliff922
    @jeffreycliff922 Před 2 lety

    sigh this video should be creative commons, not youtube standard license

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  Před 2 lety +1

      Huh? What’s the difference?

  • @uelssom
    @uelssom Před 2 lety

    Next: just do some normal math for crying out loud... Just kidding XD

    • @drpeyam
      @drpeyam  Před 2 lety +1

      Oh like g^-1 H g kind of math, or A*A = AA* kind of math 🤪

  • @adityaekbote8498
    @adityaekbote8498 Před 2 lety

    Noice

  • @hectordomingotroncoso3047

    Thanks,Dr. PEYAM,and don't care irrelevante coments,lets go on!