World's First COLOR Reflective LCD Screen | EyeMoo S1 Review
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- čas přidán 13. 03. 2023
- RLCD = Reflective Liquid Crystal Display.
The Eyemoo brings the world's first RLCD screen on its tablet!
The viewing angle seems to be the only major downside on this unit.
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This technology should be in every office building, there is no reason to have bright retina-burning monitors for most office work. Obviously creative work and content consumption are different use cases calling for different technologies, but for everyday tasks I want something like this. I want to work by dim amber glow of my lamps, not by the blinding blue light of my computer screen
Really should get adopted by laptop makers at the least. Should have been invented years ago.
Have you heard of sun vision display RLCD?
@@ai_vfx856 Unfortunately it's still very expensive, at least for me. I'm 18 only and would like to get such screen as I have to work for long time and I find my health getting worse and being unable to sleep due to spending too much time in front of LCD screen. I think looking at light source is very harmful for your eyes as it immediately causes floaters. You can notice that when you close your eyes. Also it seriously disrupts production of tears which also contributes to destroying your eyes. And for someone that has myopia wearing prescription glasses damages eyes even more as light is focused intensely on specific parts of retina. So I decided to not wear them at all as I have low myopia (-2) which means I can see half a meter away and don't need any prescription. I figured out that myopia is reversible and so is hyperopia, but it takes time and changing habits such as limiting screen time and going outside to focus on things farther away or simply watching TV with lower dioptry. So many people have health problems that can easily be fixed, but yet we continue to destroy our lives as unhealthy addictions take over us.
@@MrX-vk1jl most of that is urban myth nonsense. blue light doesn't even actually affect your eyes in any way. It's literally just personal preference, and one widely shared by a generation grown up on bright white lcd and led. Studies tend to correlate things like this incorrectly.
@@MrX-vk1jl your eye problems, eh. well... that's definitely real. and blue light can mess with vision issues/sensitive eyes bc you could say blue carries more data as it's a tighter wavelength. I wish more research was done on this. It's come out lately that methods of brightness dimming are actually responsible for headaches but I have sneaking suspicions that fake or "pulsed brightness" is also to blame (for eye strain issues).... Man I remember oled in 2012, had real DC dimming, even with heavy pure white on the blue side, it was pleasant at night. The screen could be turned down so much you could see the texture of the oled panel itself. Nowadays it just sucks because REFRESH RATE MATTERS
This is not the first color reflective LCD. My Pebble Time watch had a color reflective LCD screen. More light made it easier to see. The screen was from Japan Display Inc.
Was the Pixel QI also rlcd as well? That tech was really really old and similar.
What's the obsession with the viewing angles? I usually hold my tablet or ereader perpendicular to my eyes to have the best view, it looks like you just want to show how ereaders have incredible viewing angles but I'm not sure it's very important for daily use...
Yes it is, viewing angles are very fundamental part of lcd/led tablets.
A great deal of devices on the market will advertise, gloat, we're talking about their viewing angles to some degree. This is not new
I agree, it seems good up to at least 45°, nobody needs anything less than that. Certainly not 10°.
It's like the obsession with making computer screens as thin as possible, when frankly they could be 10cm thick it wouldn't take more space in the room. It's just for showing off in my opinion.
How’s the r-LCD’s clarity in black and white content comparing to eInk? Is it as sharpe? How many different colours and grey scale can it display?
¿Es el mismo tipo de pantalla que usaban las pda palm (lcd reflectante)?
Hi nice review
sorry do you know if this device came rooted (you can check it with some devices like Devcheck)?
Some of the older Fujitsu Stylistic slate pc's had 1024x768 10.1" reflective lcd's - like the 4121 and 5111. Still trying to find a 6-bit LVDS board to send it any signal I want at 3.3V.
Would love to see a comparison of RLCD vs Gallery 3 in terms of colour display quality and the battery consumption. If there are comparable, then RLCD is a great choice as it would win in speed alone.
I'm curious if the Eyemoo NXT E-Paper S1 tablet with its Mediatek processor is efficient for gaming. Any feedback on its gaming capabilities?
It would be interesting to know if it is readable without any frontlight/backlight enabled?
I think Adam tablet from Notion Ink was the first color one, am I right?
Can you make a video compare Hisense Q5 and Eyemoo S1? It's very exciting. 🙏
just curious. do you have any idea what happened to mirasol? with their butterfly mirror screen tech?
That went away a decade ago, we are not sure where it went
I would like to be able to obtain that panel, in order to pursue my own projects, such as a family photo album, calendar, or displaying the clock and notifications on a wall-mounted frame.
I would like to know more about this RLCD display in the device. And honestly, Eyemoo did a wonderful job with the display and Mediatek chip as well.
The lesser viewing angle can be considered a security feature. It prevent prying eyes from those around you to look into what you are reading. Indeed some people buy a filter to put on their laptop just for that.
Where can I buy this?
This looks great. A high refresh, color reflective tablet with play store. Does it have an sd card slot?
I'm not too worried about the display criticisms noted. The light reflectivity can be solved with a decent matte screen protector (that worked on the Hisense Q5 for me). It'll disperse the light. As for visibility at wide angles, that's a worthwhile tradeoff (e-ink is better but has lower refresh). Does the tablet offer pure reflective option (dark in a dark room)?
Hope color rlcd phones (with support for various world bands) are on the way soon as well.
My Hisense Q5 came with a screen protector. Did you remove it and put a better one? How well it worked? Do you have a band to recommand? Thank you
@@stopeyestrain Yeah, I think the protector that came with the Hisense was not very light dispersing. I didn't use it. You want one that is matte for spreading reflected light more evenly (preventing reflection), and also has a nice paper friction feel (to use finger or capacitative pen on). There are lots of good brands out there. My go to is Brotect I use their "Airglass Matte" variety. If they don't carry the specific device, I usually buy one that has similar dimensions to it.
@@yuvilio Thanks for the info, much appreciated!
@@yuvilio Thank your for your advice. With this matte screen protector, does it feels darker/less contrast than without it? My guess was that glossy was required to improve light coming into the RLCD panel and make it mor bright/better contrast.
I think I would always want a regular backlit tablet as well as an e-reader, so I don’t find this particularly appealing. But it’s definitely interesting.
Is thos device can save our eyes like e paper screen,, and reduce eye strain
Is this dont cause eye strain and can save eyes like epaper please answer this
I would have been interested to see how it reacts when you try to write on it.
Show us Color Comic book cover comparisons next to next on different display technologies
Hoping to see a review/comparison of the new Hannsnote 2 RLCD!
Did you try it outside yet?
How does this technology differ to the Game Boy Advance? That also has no backlight in earlier revisions.
It's the exact same technology
Excellent video. Thanks. One thing though. Can you please systematically include an outdoor viewing comparison (full sunlight, grey etc). For me the main use on eink and rlcd is the use in daylight. So how well does this tablet do?
Could good e-reader or anyone else please confirm that the backlight can be completely turned off, that is, in a dark room you cannot see any light whatsoever? Thanks.
I want to buy this
It also means contrast goes down with surrounding lights.. like a silver screen for movies
I think the purpose of this unit is to remove the eye watering PWM led light source as much as they can to protect people’s vision, but I wonder why don’t they just use some preset DC dimming on the back light.
Because then it would still be an led screen. There are other types of flickering other than pwm that exist in the lcd and led world
I think sunvision display tech. would be better for tablet, but lets see.
We are undergoing tests against pretty much all epaper alternative screen technology in the days to come;
Eink
Kaleido
DES
Etc :)
Niceee. Not 100% sure how this tech stacks up to Eink, however love to see it regardless. From what I understand it's the same as regular LCD however no backlight and a reflective panel instead, so only natural light is being projected into your eyeballs, but for that you need a good natural light (or artificial light) source.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Exactly! Just this one also have a front light (like eink device); You can also check the Hisense Q5 and the Sun Vision Display 32" RLCD monitor for more example.
If you completely disable the backlight from your lcd device, you won't see anything. They have to have specific transparent transistors.
For eyes, if eyes already feel not so good after 30min+ usage of any monitor of even front light. RLCD are good in Bright day, but not in direct sun(too much light for eyes). In evening i use 2 light sources - reflection of light source is outside of screen reflection - other vise no point if RLCD. Evening version still hurt my eyes - but little less than LCD. I use my RLCD 32" for 6 month. Winter time was little more pain full(to much artificial light needed). if I do'nt had RLCD - I can only use LCD up to 1 Hour a day. Now it is ~5 h a day - sometime up to 10 h. Only solution for me left is Less Screen + more nature. But will but RLCD tabled when it will be on stock. I use A7 CC as my phone.
If you wear prescription glasses they ruin your vision. Taking them off will ease the pain immediately. If your prescription is high then you can simply reduce 0.5 diopters when using them.
Make a one day useage battery consumption comparison between RLCD and LED display
Do you think rlcd eye protective after the quick test?Reflective doesn't mean eye protective. For example, seeing the led monitor in mirror is 100% reflective, but cannot protect your eyes.😅
joining the question
I have the Hisense Q5, I use it a lot when working at home as primary monitor. RLCD is an interesting technology for any profile not needing much fidelity of palette. The blurriness is there, and needs lots of light, so color and backlight are a huge improvement. If the price is not so high, I wouldn't mind to be an early adopter.
Same, using the Hisense Q5 too. I hope that the contrast will be at least similar or better then the Q5. This tablet have a way better DPI than the Q5 which is great.
Has anyone tested it for eye pain? Anyone who does not have eye pain from LSD will not understand. I use an e-ink monitor - it does not hurt. I wonder if this will hurt.
The first?? More than a decade ago, I purchased the Notion Ink Adam that, unfortunately, completely bombed because of their abysmal support. Now I shan’t claim that the screen was perfect - far from it - but it was a true transflective LCD.
An rLCD or color eInk 13" tablet with new Qualcomm, 16Gb RAM and Windows ARM would be... amazing.
I'm so sold on that, when it comes. It would be even better on a 15" version. But that just too much for asking.
@@dsexauer827 That's a tough question. I would be buying in around 2 years, tbh. So I will be hopping there is at least a 14.5" screen. I know Snapdragon 8cx Gen 4 is just about to be released, so CPU price is unknown. I hope the device will not go beyond 1000.
I wonder if this eventually replace Eink.
this is a gameboy color
That slider is not for backlight.. it's for front light ... It has no backlight
This looks visually similar to Mirasol, which my decade old Motorola sports watch had.
I think Sun Vision Display did it first with their 32" monitor
so the gameboy color???
But, better!
in fact ，its world first color rlcd with front light
9:34 the e-ink display is not lcd
No one mentions battery life. I guess it's not great. Looks like you are paying 500$ for a device comparable to a 70$ tablet on amazon, The only difference is times between charging which I guess here will not be more than 5, maybe 7 days.
I have a smart watch 5 years old with a screen like that
I have to stop ordering onyx ultra after seeing this video. RLCD is technology I've been waiting for.
Poor viewing angles... hindrance or security feature? 😊
E-INK is dead?
Not in the slightest. E-ink is an extremely large company
I think RLCD with adaptive refresh rate can also beat e-ink display
this is good for programmers because They work till dawn
................gameboy color........just sayin............
That being said, innovating on the tech and improving the performance of relfective displays makes 100% complete and total sense and could prolong battery life for many devices as the screen is often a majority consumer of power, especially with high ambient light. With reflective color lcds high ambient light is beneficial and in low ambient light you don't need the backlight to be on all that high at all
Polarisation kills the luminance
Its not the first RLCD Color display. There was one in the Gameboy Color ✌️
A good way, but the reflection from the surface is awful. This screen technology with anti-reflex and I‘m buy such device. Actual I use a Boox Nova 3 Color.
Yeah the reflectivity is probably a killer for me...
Hopefully a matte screen protector will do the trick
Well Sun did it first, but they did it first with a giant pc monitor that's not even a matte finish. So... It's expensive and annoying.
Why do you care so much about viewing at extreme angles? Who would use these devices at those angles?
Gameboy Advance...
If you say this is the first color RLCD, then you are blind to all Game Boy Color models from Nintendo from the 1990s. Everyone of them is color RLCD.
Lol
Not the world's first, I believe the Game Boy Advance used the same technology.
False, the first RLCD screen is the Sun vision display 32 inches. Stop lying.
No need to say which one was first, it is pointless. Also for example the Hisense Q5 RLCD was here before SVD.
Yeah, strange they forgot about Sun Vision Display which has had an RLCD monitor for, what, a year or two?
SVD display is much better
Let's wait a bit before drawing conclusion. Beside the difference in size and use, this tablet have an optional frontlight and a much higher DPI than the SVD.
Looks like a 3D. 😅😅
now compare it to an OLED screen :p
TCL did it first...
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Not with an actual product you can buy, no they didn't. They never released the NXT paper 8
I hate it
World's first? have you ever played GBA?
Yes, I have played gba, but that has nothing to do with this because GBA was a TFT LCD
@@goodereader It's also reflective.
@@goodereader A longer explanation: TFT is a technical term which unfortunately lost its marketing value since it's already dominated the market years ago, current IPS LCD, even OLEDs are all using TFT, but they did not market it like so, it's like nobody would brag their portable device is using a flat panel display instead of a cathode ray tube.
Back in the day, TFT was a vastly superior technology over STN, like what the OG Gameboy and GBA's rival WonderSwan was using, TFT was the new guy in the class, so GBA was marketed like that.
Now _reflective_ is just how all non-backlighted (and non-self-emiting) screens work, including OG Gameboys and e-ink displays, it's nothing magical, which also means it can't be backlighted, like OG GBA-SP and Kindles, they're frontlighted instead. Modern LCDs are transparent and non-reflective, which means when the backlight is off you just see black.
There's also a middle ground, early blackberries were using trans-reflective displays, which means they can be viewed with ambient light and backlight off, and in the black with backlight on, which I really like but lost to transparent displays since it had worse color reproduction. And I believe the one device you were comparing it to in this video was marketed like that.
This company probably claimed it's the "world's 1st reflective IGZO LCD" or something like that, without those adjectives, it doesn't stand, like I can say "I'm the funniest guy in this room" but not "I'm the funniest guy".
Now I can fly away, and you can update the video title.
The gameboy did the same thing decades before this, bruh
Okay bruh
I think that it's super cool that there is still innovation and trial of new technologies but it's not quite there yet. E-ink (especially the new gallery 3 tech) looks miles better than this, even with less color the contrast and sharpness is super good. I think RLCD has potential for the future but for now it doesn't look to good. I wonder what advantages it offers that don't already exist with MIP displays like Garmin watches have, witch actually looks super good and is reflective.
The big advantages over e-ink will be update speed, refresh rate, and power consumption during updates. Even things as simple as scrolling in an Android app on e-ink (based on my experience with an Onyx Boox Nova 3, and echoed in this video) are... not great, even in the fastest mode. (And the quality gets really bad in the fastest mode.) Meanwhile, RLCD will do video just fine.
MIP adds SRAM cells at each pixel so the panel doesn't need to be constantly refreshed, each pixel refreshes itself. This means that idle power consumption is near zero (not actually zero, though, so e-ink still beats MIP, but close enough that MIP can be lower power consumption overall in more dynamic applications - I have a Sharp electronic notebook with a MIP RLCD that claims 3x the battery life of its successor model, which is e-ink).
Cost is the big downside to MIP. The other downsides I can think of... some older MIP displays have slower updates, but that basically means 30 Hz full-frame, still vastly better than e-ink. And, MIP tends to have less color depth, because more color depth means more memory at each cell (which also means less reflectivity at each cell, and more cost) - the most I've seen is 2 bits per subpixel on Sharp and JDI's 64-color memory LCDs and Sharp's discontinued 6" 800x600 4-grayscale memory LCD. (To put things in perspective: an active matrix TFT has 1 transistor per subpixel, an IPS LCD has 2 transistors per subpixel and already has noticeably diminished brightness for the same backlight power, and each bit of SRAM is 6 transistors - I think this means a 1bpp MIP panel will have 7 transistors per pixel. A 6 bpp (2 bits per subpixel) color MIP panel would therefore have 13 transistors per subpixel, and the 18 bpp minimum expected for multimedia today (and what TN LCDs do) would therefore require 37 transistors per subpixel.)
Also, a RLCD can be made using the same processes as the cheapest TN LCDs today, just using a reflective layer instead of the backlight layer. There's also transflective layers that used to be popular, to have both backlight and some reflection.
Regarding the viewing angle problems, I wonder how much of that is the frontlight film on this device catching light at the edge, and how much is this not being IPS - conventional transmissive TN LCDs are also bad at extreme viewing angles.