Bumper Cover Repair - How to Repair Broken Slot Tabs

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  • čas přidán 6. 06. 2024
  • This video will show you how to repair those "slot tabs" that are very common on bumpers. "Slot Tabs" are those rectangular slots on the edge that snap into the brackets on fenders and quarter panels. Often, these can break when you are removing the bumper. They are hard to repair using two-part adhesives since they present so little surface to stick to.
    For a different method of repairing slot tabs, watch our video on our Bumper Pliers Kit: • How to Use Polyvance's...
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    Chapters:
    Intro: 0:00
    What are slot tabs?: 0:10
    Preparing the tab for repair (tab 1): 0:52
    Welding the cosmetic side (tab 1): 1:52
    Shaping the weld (tab 1): 3:14
    Prepping & welding the back side (tab 1): 3:35
    Preparing the tab for repair (tab 2): 4:46
    Welding the cosmetic side (tab 2): 5:45
    Shaping the weld (tab 2): 6:38
    Strength test (tab 2): 7:00
    Welding the back side & shaping (tab 2): 7:11
    Final strength test (tab 2): 7:31
    ⚠️ Important ⚠️
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    - The length of this video is in no way representative of the actual time required to perform a complete repair and therefore should not be used for estimating purposes.
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Komentáře • 263

  • @1southsoon
    @1southsoon Před 3 lety +23

    I am more than impressed with the pull test. Unbelievable that it can be so strong! Great methods and great products.

  • @MrRepairmanjack
    @MrRepairmanjack Před 4 lety +16

    Awesome repair for high end restorations. For an easy, strong and quick fix that won't have to be repainted I liked to take a piece of stainless steel mesh and just lightly melt it into the back side of the repair. Let it cool and then reattach any missing smaller cosmetic pieces on my front side. Ready for reattachment no paint no hate.

  • @stateboy80892
    @stateboy80892 Před 5 lety +7

    Oddly satisfying.. Such great need to know info 😊👍

  • @maclaudeamumbwe2663
    @maclaudeamumbwe2663 Před 3 lety +6

    I really needed this

  • @abelrodriguez6100
    @abelrodriguez6100 Před 5 lety +9

    All I can say is Wow and thank you 🤣

  • @aurimasmaldzius5345
    @aurimasmaldzius5345 Před 3 lety +4

    This video is so well made, ive never seen this before and i am extremely fascinated, i would even be compelled to try this at home and be effective thanks to these comprehensive instructions!
    i know this is a few years old but thanks for making this video!

    • @polyvance
      @polyvance  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks for watching and for the nice comment! We've got other videos aimed more toward at-home DIYers versus these nitrogen plastic welding videos that are aimed more toward body shops. Have a look around :)

  • @Interartmusic
    @Interartmusic Před rokem +2

    Excellent, just what I was looking for.

  • @geoffreycartmill7717
    @geoffreycartmill7717 Před rokem +1

    Excellent video straight to the point.

  • @DanielOrtegoUSA
    @DanielOrtegoUSA Před 3 lety +2

    Useful information so thanks for posting. Sadly, I'm not the sort of person that would do well with this. The upside is that I now know that the damage I caused when I removed my bumper can be fixed.

  • @DOBERSTAFFIE
    @DOBERSTAFFIE Před 3 lety

    really satisfying to watch. I bet if I tried it I'd blow holes in the plastic. :)

  • @jonathanmolina89
    @jonathanmolina89 Před 3 lety +2

    Muy bueno todo! Me sirvieron demasiado todos tus videos! !!

  • @karensummers2316
    @karensummers2316 Před rokem +1

    Great instructions Thank you so much you are my angel!

  • @timmcmullen159
    @timmcmullen159 Před 6 lety +19

    love the low volume metal in the background. sets the mood.

  • @mcconn746
    @mcconn746 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Impressive. Thanks.

  • @ianhoyle8459
    @ianhoyle8459 Před 2 lety

    My Ducati fairing needs this process but the tabs are very small in comparison to the car bumper.
    Good video thanks.

  • @bismasilalahi5418
    @bismasilalahi5418 Před 4 lety +3

    Cool, inspiratif for me. Thanks

  • @jhaluska80
    @jhaluska80 Před 6 měsíci

    I realized I have three bumpers that I need to repair this way. Definitely will be attempting it in the future as it's cheaper than three bumpers.

  • @Lee-nr5xv
    @Lee-nr5xv Před 7 lety +3

    Great video!

  • @ianmacdonald7873
    @ianmacdonald7873 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks mate very helpful

  • @Sam-to1zg
    @Sam-to1zg Před 2 lety +1

    Nice job

  • @andrewresendez0
    @andrewresendez0 Před 4 lety +2

    Lol I just jb welded it on the tab slots works really good and it was only 6 bucks not even messy

  • @Jhonygarc
    @Jhonygarc Před 8 měsíci +1

    ❤❤❤🎉🎉 Gracias excelente video 👍👍

  • @EpicentrodoConhecimento
    @EpicentrodoConhecimento Před 4 lety +1

    Muito bom seus vídeos parabéns pelo seu trabalho

  • @julioayendedelgado9057
    @julioayendedelgado9057 Před rokem +1

    Thanks a lot!!!! Simple think that help TOOOOOO MUCHH!!!!

  • @subliminalpain
    @subliminalpain Před 5 lety +1

    Awesome intro!

  • @jarnosaarinen4583
    @jarnosaarinen4583 Před 5 lety +2

    Thats how it's done! Good job!!

  • @LongNguyen-mu7bb
    @LongNguyen-mu7bb Před 3 lety +1

    Great video thanks

  • @roger55es
    @roger55es Před 11 měsíci +1

    Great video on repairs .Sure its tricky but its compensating in the finish and low cost outlay for the tools

  • @mhaskins3769
    @mhaskins3769 Před 3 lety

    Can you do one for the GMC Denali tow hitch cover? The tabs the extend up and into the bumper broke on mine.

  • @Sam-to1zg
    @Sam-to1zg Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you

  • @EnriqueLopez-hb5jn
    @EnriqueLopez-hb5jn Před 3 lety +2

    Wow! Amazing repair.

  • @danieljessop7140
    @danieljessop7140 Před 4 lety +5

    The plastic needs to be the same material as the bumper. PP, PP+EPDM, PE, etc. If you don't use the same plastic it won't take properly and will peel off once cooled. This repair is very similar to the way I was taught over 20 years ago. One of the better repairs on youtube. Only thing I will say is be aware that while the plastic is cooling it can shrink and will pull the bumper out of shape.

    • @scottb7600
      @scottb7600 Před 4 lety

      It shouldn't pull the bumper out of shape enough to be noticeable. If it was heated to that point, a little too much heat was probably applied. Distortion is less of a problem with nitrogen welding than with airless welding because the duration the part was heated is much shorter than an airless weld. Even then, its not as much of an issue as with metal welding.

  • @drumbyte
    @drumbyte Před 6 měsíci +1

    Amazing!

  • @betherealdeal
    @betherealdeal Před 3 lety +60

    It should be criminal for car makers to design easily broken bumpers like this

    • @Sam-to1zg
      @Sam-to1zg Před 2 lety

      @@epiphgd4302 Specially locks

    • @darealpython
      @darealpython Před 2 lety +1

      it's cheap and convenient..

    • @michaelmclaren1333
      @michaelmclaren1333 Před 2 lety

      My sons dodge avenger is RIDICULOUS! the rear bumper cover all the flanges broke and where you want to feel the back of the plastic clips are inaccessible. I fkin agree with you

    • @ameralshaher6041
      @ameralshaher6041 Před 2 lety

      I would rather have a clip break than having a bumper crack.

    • @betherealdeal
      @betherealdeal Před 2 lety +1

      @@ameralshaher6041 I wonder how much it is to repair / replace plastic bumper covers and chromed ones

  • @polyvance
    @polyvance  Před 5 lety +3

    View this video on on our website for helpful information and product suggestions for this repair: www.polyvance.com/video/nitrogen-hot-air-fusion-welding/bumper-cover-repair-how-to-repair-broken-slot-tabs
    For a different method of repairing slot tabs, watch our video on our Bumper Pliers Kit: goo.gl/4DNFsQ
    The Bumper Pliers kit comes with 4 numbered pliers, 6 numbered dies, and 1 recessed hole die. The dies have different widths to fit a variety of slot tabs. The die helps prevent the welding rod from filling in the slot tab hole.

  • @nab1610
    @nab1610 Před 7 lety +2

    great

  • @michaelmclaren1333
    @michaelmclaren1333 Před 2 lety

    Can you make a video for circular flanges?

  • @joranpancingterbaik
    @joranpancingterbaik Před 4 lety +1

    Good info. Tq

  • @MunnasVlogs
    @MunnasVlogs Před 4 lety +1

    undoubtedly....cool work

  • @rustylozanolpc4227
    @rustylozanolpc4227 Před 8 měsíci

    Ugh.. yeah, I need to hire you to do mine, please!

  • @teguhprast9786
    @teguhprast9786 Před 4 lety +2

    Nice

  • @POLLO1NER
    @POLLO1NER Před 2 lety

    I need this.. im too lazy, you’ve got a shop nearby?

  • @TheLoneRanger1992
    @TheLoneRanger1992 Před 4 lety

    What is the strong adhesive your using that will be strong enough to hold it up without snapping ?

    • @polyvance
      @polyvance  Před 4 lety +3

      It's not an adhesive. It's a welding rod that matches the plastic we are repairing (we would use a polypropylene welding rod on a polypropylene bumper). That's why it is so strong. When you fusion weld, you are fusing the new plastic with the base plastic. It becomes one piece again.

  • @skatelulw981
    @skatelulw981 Před 3 lety

    Would the second method shown in this video be about the same to repair a circular screw tab like the one next to the tab being repaired?

    • @scottb7600
      @scottb7600 Před 3 lety +2

      yes, that should also work on a round tab. I sometimes weld completely over the area being repaired, then simply redrill the hole in the right spot.

    • @skatelulw981
      @skatelulw981 Před 3 lety +1

      @@scottb7600 Right on, thank you for the feedback. I'm going to try this 🤞

  • @texascraftsman8834
    @texascraftsman8834 Před 11 měsíci

    do you have a video to install the slot clips?

  • @ibrahimgoma7779
    @ibrahimgoma7779 Před 2 lety +1

    nice

  • @Joushbawxxx
    @Joushbawxxx Před 2 lety +1

    Banging soundtrack

  • @gilsonjeremias6030
    @gilsonjeremias6030 Před 4 lety

    Top de mais

  • @percyfaith11
    @percyfaith11 Před rokem

    Where do you get the material to weld this and have it match the bumper?

    • @polyvance
      @polyvance  Před rokem +1

      We manufacture plastic welding rods. We currently have 22 different material types to match a wide variety of plastics!
      www.polyvance.com/Welding-Rod-List/

  • @nikolaymihaylov7909
    @nikolaymihaylov7909 Před rokem

    maybe a stupid question but is there a difference in the performance of the rod material and whats in your opinion the universal for the car bumpers I have 3 cars that really can use this

    • @polyvance
      @polyvance  Před rokem

      The main thing for fusion welding is that the rod needs to match the plastic type. However, the FiberFlex rod uses a different technique - it isn't a fusion weld. The FiberFlex work great on PP and TPO.
      What kind of equipment do you have and what kind of damage do you have?
      You can give us a call and speak with a tech for more detailed help if you would like.

  • @bajonivideos
    @bajonivideos Před 4 měsíci

    Great ❤
    Can you put a link to buy this tools please
    Greatings from Bosnia

    • @polyvance
      @polyvance  Před 4 měsíci

      Here is a link to the products used. www.polyvance.com/video/nitrogen-hot-air-fusion-welding/bumper-cover-repair-how-to-repair-broken-slot-tabs

  • @plasticmen9728
    @plasticmen9728 Před 2 lety

    hello
    in which countries in europe do you have your distributors?

    • @scottb7600
      @scottb7600 Před 2 lety

      It depends on the product. email polyvance directly, with the product you are looking for and they will be able to help you.

  • @rodelamansec9252
    @rodelamansec9252 Před 3 lety

    I'm from Philippines. Very good diy technique to repair bumper. May I know what type of plastic weld u use?

    • @polyvance
      @polyvance  Před 3 lety

      The welder is one of our nitrogen plastic welders (meant for use in a collision repair shop) and this particular plastic welding rod was polypropylene.

    • @scottb7600
      @scottb7600 Před 3 lety

      R02-01-03-NT Polypropylene

  • @vw_mods_4711
    @vw_mods_4711 Před 3 lety +1

    Great repair/technique! Is that a hot air welder? Or just a hot end, Melting the rod to the bumper?

    • @polyvance
      @polyvance  Před 3 lety +2

      We're using one of our nitrogen plastic welders to melt the rod down. We use the integrated airless plastic welder to smooth the welding rod.

    • @scottb7600
      @scottb7600 Před 3 lety +1

      Its a nitrogen welder. Hot air could also be used, but is not quite as strong.

    • @Marcoosianism
      @Marcoosianism Před 11 měsíci

      @@scottb7600 Hot air guns reach over 1000 F and all you need for plastic is a few hundred so a hot air gun with the proper tip should be just fine. No need for nitrogen.

    • @scottb7600
      @scottb7600 Před 11 měsíci

      @@Marcoosianism In theory yes, but most heat guns will overheat when the air is reduce to a small enough size to be able to control where youre putting the heat. Then the second issue is the volume of air is too high to effectively weld with a heat gun. It kind of like saying I only need one screwdriver for all screws. You don't, you need the right screwdriver for the right screw. You also need the right heat source for each repair.

  • @tommyb6611
    @tommyb6611 Před 2 lety

    so what exact welding rods were used here? thanks

    • @polyvance
      @polyvance  Před 2 lety +1

      R02 polypropylene welding rod (www.polyvance.com/Polypropylene-1/). We used the round rod and a ribbon that we cut to make more narrow.

  • @ayeshaasif8343
    @ayeshaasif8343 Před rokem +1

    Can you please what is this plastic rod that you use ? Like what is it called ? Where can i get it

    • @polyvance
      @polyvance  Před rokem

      We're using Polyvance's polypropylene welding rod. We used polypropylene welding rod because the bumper cover plastic was polypropylene. All of our R02 polypropylene welding rod can be found here: www.polyvance.com/Polypropylene-1/

  • @mattmew4299
    @mattmew4299 Před 9 měsíci

    Which rod is this i can’t find on y’all’s web site

    • @polyvance
      @polyvance  Před 9 měsíci

      Hi. We used polypropylene welding rods for this repair (because the bumper cover was polypropylene).
      You can find all our polypropylene rods here: www.polyvance.com/Polypropylene-1/

  • @PacoPR28
    @PacoPR28 Před 5 lety

    Mine the full tabs rail went off, theres a repair for that?

    • @scottb7600
      @scottb7600 Před 5 lety

      Yes, polyvance makes a welding rod specifically for repairing that.

  • @bushka087
    @bushka087 Před 3 lety +2

    Thanks for saving me $500

  • @nidstang373
    @nidstang373 Před 3 lety +1

    So you can weld PP to Polyurethane?

    • @polyvance
      @polyvance  Před 3 lety +2

      No. You must use polyurethane welding rod.
      PUR is thermoset polyurethane and cannot be fusion welded. Our R01 polyurethane rod can be melted. You must use the R01 welding rod to make an adhesive repair. You can view our thermoset polyurethane playlist for more information.

  • @jhonatanvelop
    @jhonatanvelop Před 3 lety

    Alguien sabe cómo se llama esa barra que utiliza para hacer las piezas y dónde se consigue en Colombia????

    • @scottb7600
      @scottb7600 Před 3 lety +2

      Se utilizaron dos productos para la reparación y se pueden comprar contactando a info@Polyvance.com Polyvance puede realizar envíos a todo el mundo. Los números de pieza son: R02-01-03-NT y R02-04-03-NT

  • @user-fi7bq9yk3y
    @user-fi7bq9yk3y Před 10 měsíci

    Comment appelle t on le plastique que vous utilisez?

    • @polyvance
      @polyvance  Před 10 měsíci

      The filler rod we are using is our R02 polypropylene welding rod. We used polypropylene because the bumper cover we were working on was polypropylene. www.polyvance.com/Polypropylene-1/

  • @Lee-nr5xv
    @Lee-nr5xv Před 7 lety +5

    What is the brand of ribbon used?

    • @polyvance
      @polyvance  Před 7 lety +2

      Hi Leair! We used our brand of Polypropylene welding ribbon. You can find it at the link below:
      www.polyvance.com/Polypropylene-1/R02-04-03-NT/

  • @76rmyers
    @76rmyers Před 3 lety

    What if you are missing half the slot tab and need more than just a tab repair? I would like to hot weld the same material but if I need to recreate over half the tab am I going to need to use epoxy instead?

    • @scottb7600
      @scottb7600 Před 3 lety

      Just to be clear, forget epoxy on anything made of polypropylene for any structural repair, it will not work. Are you missing the flange the slot tab goes in? I mean, if you are missing the edge of the slot tab, just shape it out of melted PP and then trim it to shape like in the video. If you are missing a large piece of the flange itself, you can sometimes build one out of a thin sheet of PP, like those sold by polyvance and manually cut the slots in in the appropriate places. This would be a more difficult repair and if you are doing this in a shop (for profit), depending on the cost of a new bumper, may relegate it to the scrap pile unless you have another similar bumper you can scab the flange in from.

    • @76rmyers
      @76rmyers Před 3 lety

      @@scottb7600 I'm missing a large piece of the flange itself. I have some scrap PP that I can make a template of and try to cut in the slots. This is personal - not for profit in a shop so I can take my time and try to salvage the bumper. If I was charging by the hour I would already be on to a new bumper by now

    • @scottb7600
      @scottb7600 Před 3 lety

      @@76rmyers Good deal. Check that piece to see if its about the same thickness as the original flange, if it is not, you may need to sand it down before trying to weld it in place in order to make it snap into the body clips. But doing what you describe will be worth the effort, I think and is definitely "doable."

  • @brexxebender1204
    @brexxebender1204 Před 8 měsíci

    Do the tabs go on car or panel first ? Anyone??

  • @Yosoyhm
    @Yosoyhm Před rokem

    Very good, but I dont have that tools

  • @ramasubramaniank9337
    @ramasubramaniank9337 Před 4 lety

    What is name for bumper fitting plastic at corner

  • @shepherdngwenya3054
    @shepherdngwenya3054 Před rokem

    this is too awesome ,im gonna let it pass

  • @jagdishvaghela6779
    @jagdishvaghela6779 Před 3 lety

    what should we do in case of whole grip broken - make a video

  • @user-fr7yr8fy7e
    @user-fr7yr8fy7e Před 4 lety

    plz. what the name of the white plastic you use it??

    • @polyvance
      @polyvance  Před 4 lety +1

      In this video, we used our R02 polypropylene welding rod. www.polyvance.com/Polypropylene-1/

    • @1southsoon
      @1southsoon Před 3 lety +1

      @@polyvance Nice, Lots of material for little money. I already have the mini heat gun and welding spoon. The aluminum duct tape too!

  • @thewedge8823
    @thewedge8823 Před 4 lety

    why remove that aluminum bar? wouldn't it be stronger if you welded it directly on the bumper?

    • @scottb7600
      @scottb7600 Před 4 lety +2

      That "bar" is just foil tape to give it some support while welding. The plastic weld is plenty strong, there is no need for additional reinforcement.

  • @none-ih3cv
    @none-ih3cv Před 6 měsíci

    Some of those repairs I just melt a metal screen strip into the plastic for quicker repair.

  • @andygill6051
    @andygill6051 Před 3 lety

    anyways to fix the tabs without welding?

  • @ruggedrickrude1946
    @ruggedrickrude1946 Před rokem

    Vid is helpful i agree that the average person not privy to tools in this vid…..I think about it like this….I watch and like survivalist shows,think how they improvise off the grid doing certain things,same can be said for this
    I have at home
    dremel
    plastic type stuff
    clamps and metal strap
    heatgun
    I believe it would do save thing
    MY OPINION

  • @lethaldriver
    @lethaldriver Před 5 lety

    Can I use the FiberFlex rods instead?

    • @scottb7600
      @scottb7600 Před 5 lety +2

      You can, but you would want to embed some 2045W stainless steel mesh into the repair to tie the FiberFlex to the base material. Because FiberFlex doesn't make a true weld, the mesh is needed to increase the sheer strength; it's definitely doable though.

    • @lethaldriver
      @lethaldriver Před 5 lety

      @@scottb7600 Isn't FiberFlex supposed to have a good bond because it is somewhat like "hot glue" jbut supposedly even better than hot glue.
      so would it be a bit weaker if done with FiberFlex? how much bonding strength does the FiberFlex have (in PSI)?
      How does FiberFlex compare to a true fusion weld that is done with the correct and compatible plastic rods?

    • @scottb7600
      @scottb7600 Před 5 lety +3

      @@lethaldriver Since a true weld with the same material the bumper is made from is just that...a weld and fiberflex is a bond which relies on surface interaction, FiberFlex by nature is weaker. There is no mechanism for separating two things welded together without destroying both parts, but bonds tend to be strong in on direction and weaker in another...in this case peel strength is the weak link. FiberFlex is strong in sheer, strong in tension, but weak in peel. If you distribute the load over a larger area, FiberFlex is plenty strong for just about any bumper repair, the problem with a slot tab is there just isn't a whole lot of surface to work with, so that's where the mesh would make up for that.

  • @arisjudecabuyoc2221
    @arisjudecabuyoc2221 Před 7 měsíci

    What rod u use??

    • @polyvance
      @polyvance  Před 7 měsíci

      Because the bumper cover was made of polypropylene, we used polypropylene welding rod. www.polyvance.com/Polypropylene-1/

  • @josepedroviana8306
    @josepedroviana8306 Před 2 lety

    Whats the name of the material you use?

    • @polyvance
      @polyvance  Před 2 lety

      Polypropylene welding rod: www.polyvance.com/Polypropylene-1/

  • @yt754
    @yt754 Před 6 lety +121

    Who has all these uncommon tools to do a bumper fix... This is not for most people

    • @polyvance
      @polyvance  Před 6 lety +42

      You are correct. This not for most people. This video is targeted toward a collision repair professional at an auto body shop.

    • @gluedmynuts
      @gluedmynuts Před 5 lety +11

      No clue why CZcams would recommend this to me

    • @mxlman26
      @mxlman26 Před 5 lety +3

      I was thinking the same, on the other hand, this method will save money on a new paint job.

    • @W333dm4n
      @W333dm4n Před 5 lety +15

      Use a heatgun with a narrow tube, soldering iron with a flat tip,

    • @derfstang480
      @derfstang480 Před 5 lety +26

      The tools are only uncommon if they are difficult to find or prohibitively expensive. None of the tools used are either of those.
      With the exception of the hot air welder/soldering gun there was nothing special or expensive about the tools. Most people have a dermel type tool, soldering iron, clamps of different sizes and sand paper. The hot air soldering gun can be picked up on amazon for $50. Even if you have to buy a dremel, again 30-40 on amazon for an off brand. Your local hardware store will also have tools you can buy for this project for less than the links provided.
      The cost of having this professionally repaired costs far more than those two thing combined. So, people’s choice. One time outlay to have a pro do it and have no tools or invest into some tools than can be used on this repair that you then own for the next project and save money in the process.

  • @RanGer-498
    @RanGer-498 Před 4 lety +3

    Great way to fix a tab ,but this is definitely not for a home type of repair due to cost of the equpiment needed alone sadly.

    • @scottb7600
      @scottb7600 Před 4 lety +3

      The same repair can also be done for about $70 using the 5211 Polypro airless welder. Just weld over the entire area, then re-cut the slot with a dremel tool and sand to the original thickness It takes A LOT longer, but it will get the job done for the DIYer who doesn't want to replace and repaint the bumper.

  • @jakeflane2218
    @jakeflane2218 Před 3 lety

    Cool and great but to good for my blood

  • @jouhar2137
    @jouhar2137 Před rokem

    What is the white strip?

    • @polyvance
      @polyvance  Před rokem

      Our R02 polypropylene welding rod: www.polyvance.com/Polypropylene-1/
      (We used polypropylene filler rod because the bumper cover was polypropylene. It's important that the filler rod matches the base material).

  • @gtdodgeviper
    @gtdodgeviper Před 4 lety

    Wish I had seen this before drilling my bumper with self tapping screw. So even if I do it now my bumper will have the holes and thats a whole other job.

    • @scottb7600
      @scottb7600 Před 4 lety

      Filling screw holes is very, very easy.

  • @totogazebac3654
    @totogazebac3654 Před 3 lety

    what kind of welding plastic rod

    • @polyvance
      @polyvance  Před 3 lety

      This bumper was made of polypropylene, so we used our R02 welding rod.
      www.polyvance.com/Polypropylene-1/

  • @genoitaly04
    @genoitaly04 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Hell JB weld putty would’ve fixed that without doing all that.

  • @soufyanedz9688
    @soufyanedz9688 Před 5 lety

    You can repair with iron sheet and epoxy or heat

  • @Dan_druft
    @Dan_druft Před 4 lety +2

    Dam I thought I had invented this

  • @mr.doinstuff8466
    @mr.doinstuff8466 Před 4 lety

    I just use cheap Harbor Freight epoxy, paper and baking soda to strengthen broken tabs. It’ll be solid as a rock

  • @dylansalcedo6215
    @dylansalcedo6215 Před 4 lety

    this is for a shop to do, not the regular joe at home.

    • @scottb7600
      @scottb7600 Před 4 lety +1

      In this case yes, but for the DIYer the same thing can be done, albiet in about 10x the time using an airless welder like the MiniWeld Model 7 from Poloyvance. If you wanted to spend even less, the 5211 PolyPro welder will also do the trick.

  • @livedeliciously
    @livedeliciously Před 4 lety +1

    Can you use a heat gun instead of the nitrogen welder? It'll be harder to concentrate the heat to one area, but seems like you'd melt the rods just the same.

    • @scottb7600
      @scottb7600 Před 4 lety

      They will melt, but so will the surrounding area and you'll end up with a distorted mess if you don't end up with a big hole.

    • @aromaticpillow
      @aromaticpillow Před 3 lety

      Search amazon for "hot air rework station". You can set the exact temperature, volume of air, and use one of the narrow tips that comes with it. I got one for 50$.

    • @efrainsanchez1999
      @efrainsanchez1999 Před 2 lety

      @@aromaticpillow what temperature is best??

    • @Marcoosianism
      @Marcoosianism Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@efrainsanchez1999 Depends on the plastic. Each type of plastic has its ideal melting temperature. Usually between 250 and 500 Farenheit is a good range to be able to heat to.

  • @ayoubkenitra8505
    @ayoubkenitra8505 Před 2 měsíci

    انا من المغرب انا في نفس الحرفة لحام بلاستيك

  • @61spindrift
    @61spindrift Před 4 lety

    Hoping @Scott B chimes in on this comment. Plastic welding is a very good repair and also a certified repair in the collision business. I have had my plastic welder for since first invented 30 years ago and used it with much success once the type of plastic has been identified. However with the advancement in adhesives this repair can be done faster, cheaper and has all most the same outcome. 3M has an adhesive that requires virtually no tools or the expense that accompanies the welding process. It is also a certified repair for the collision industry for exactly the type of repairs that are being demonstrating here. In the old days people use to use fiberglass repair patches and/or epoxy's. Those of course will ultimately fail down the road but it can have some limited success, especially the fiberglass technique if only needed for cosmetic and not structural repair. But what about a one part adhesive as in 3M's product? Polyvance or @Scott B what say you? Thanks.

    • @scottb7600
      @scottb7600 Před 4 lety +1

      61 - Most of what you say is accurate. You are right about the fiberglass repair of old, which worked OK on urethane, but not for all that long. However with newer polypropylene bumpers, as far as an adhesive repair being faster and cheaper, that is completely wrong. If you screw a mixing tip on an adhesive tube, you've already spent more than you would have on filler rod making a weld. With welding, the prep takes essentially the same amount of time or less than that for an adhesive repair because the area you need to prep is smaller for a weld. The time to apply adhesive compared to filler rod is generally faster, but the problem then lies with cure time. As soon as a weld hardens, you can sand it, adhesives take a minimum of 5 minutes, but most are 20 to 30 minutes before they are strong enough to handle and sand. Both require some filler after the repair, so that's a wash. Strength wise, welding is still a slam dunk. Even with the advances in adhesives, if you flex an an adhesive joint or try to bond a tab on with adhesive, it will only have a limited amount of strength. Its not that the adhesive is bad, it does have its uses, but polypropylene doesn't have much affinity for things being bonded to it, so like the fiberglass repairs of old on urethane, modern adhesive repairs have the same problems on polypropylene.

  • @NightRider02
    @NightRider02 Před 3 lety

    I wonder how many ppl carry all these tools?

  • @Sam-to1zg
    @Sam-to1zg Před 2 lety

    What is the material of this bumper?

  • @Chino_does
    @Chino_does Před 10 měsíci

    He said slot, rod and stiffer with emphasis. I guess I need to buy a hot iron rod

  • @jacobjarvis1335
    @jacobjarvis1335 Před 5 lety +1

    I just used jb weld 🤷‍♀️

    • @scottb7600
      @scottb7600 Před 5 lety +3

      This has been brought up at least a dozen times... JB weld does not stick to polypropylene....

  • @darealpython
    @darealpython Před 2 lety +1

    the most important info was missing! what specification has the bumper material?? exactly! is it polyurethane?? what material sticks to polyurethane at what exact temp, in this demo? specs, please, the works! or is it a company secret? I have the hardware, just need to know the welding material, not even the specs, since it's all in the demo, practically demonstrated, when it's liquid it's ideal, when it boils and bubbles, it's too hot. thanx

    • @polyvance
      @polyvance  Před 2 lety +2

      This is polypropylene. About 95% of late model bumper covers are made of polypropylene.
      You cannot do a fusion weld with hot air or nitrogen on thermoset polyurethane because thermoset plastics do not melt. You have to use a special technique to repair it. Themoplastic urethanes can be fusion welded, but they aren't as common. If you need information about repairing thermoset polyurethane, you can view this playlist: czcams.com/video/rUV1qpnKxlg/video.html
      Repairing thermoset polyurethane is definitely not a company secret! The founder of our company created the first plastic welding kit designed to repair thermoset polyurethane in the early 1980s.
      Here's a video on common plastics and how to identify them: czcams.com/video/NUYfC79r0A4/video.html

    • @darealpython
      @darealpython Před 2 lety +1

      @@polyvance wow, thank you, I didn't expect such a swift and substantial reply, it's a nice feeling to have a company be so receptive! I am really not just blowing smoke. ok, now to the facts, my specs.. I was shocked, very disappointed to find out that my bumper (2007 R-Class, lots of fond memories, I just love this car, I do all my repairs, coding, everything) is this thermoset goo, because I was all set to fuse, then I read the PUR-RIM designation on the inside of the skirt, central, next to the Mercedes part number, I thought what kind of primitive shit did I get here!! I was flipping! I knew your products for a while, I mean, you're legends out there in the business, but I wanted to stay away from gluing, because this is what it actually is, right, it's gluing, you create a concave, wide space with a very adherent surface, and then you fill it with the fused thermoplastic, those vids you linked are old already, I've known them for years, I really never thought I'd be applying the tech on my own damn bumper! question, is this solution, for PUR bumpers, really so durable, lasting and permanently elastic, what's the track record on these repairs? I couldn't find real testimonials from the other side, different perspectives, because now I'm stuck with this bumper material, I have to learn to live with it! 3M also has a solution similar to yours, well, not that similar, I think, but the basics go in the same direction. I was going to try everything out and test the living crap out of it, compare, you know.. on a sacrificial bumper or something. I don't think I have the time, I'd have to expose the repair surface to weather/temp differences, mechanical stresses, I don't think my curiosity will prevail here, because I lack the time and I'd have to buy everything for the sole purpose of this test. it would be epic though, I'm a depraved perfectionist, if I say I would, I really will test the crap out of it! the water molecule is an insidious little bastard, if you let it, it'll creep everywhere, in all its 3 states! I was looking for the 2k flex filler, it's sold out everywhere, has been for a while.. or can't be shipped abroad. I don't live in the States, I should mention that.. I have to repair several cracks in this bumper, I have a spare bumper as well, also in need for repair, same polyurethane crap! it's made in the US, practically the whole car is made in the US/MX, is PUR cheaper to manufacture? why did they have to do this to me?!?! I second what the guy below my comment noted! second the outrage, too! and then some! bastards! mercedes, for f's sake, they could have done better, in that generation, I mean, late 2000s, cmon!

    • @polyvance
      @polyvance  Před 2 lety +1

      @@darealpython Thanks for the kind words!
      Yeah, the thermoset PUR is used as a hot-melt adhesive. It's a similar process to brazing. But because the PUR is thermoset, it can't be melted and it has to be repaired with an adhesive process. Other companies make some two-part adhesives that are supposed to work on urethane, but we can't vouch for how well they work. Our FiberFlex welding rod also sticks to urethane. It's also applied as a hot-melt adhesive. I'd recommend using the thermoplastic PUR welding rod repair method. We've been doing these types of repairs for about 40 years, and we've always had good results. It sounds like you'll be doing your research on the best products and methods to repair this car you love. We wish you the best of luck!

    • @scottb7600
      @scottb7600 Před 2 lety +1

      @@darealpython They still use urethane because making a mold for a urethane bumper is far less expensive than making one for a PP bumper. So on lower production cars, the higher cost of the raw urethane material is more than offset by the low cost of the bumper mold. ITs still good stuff, its just not as easily repaired as a PP bumper. If I were you, I would look at Polyvance's 5210 230V Fiberflex Kit (if you are in Europe) or the 5210 (if you're in North America or where 120V power is used). While it won't make a true weld, it will make a good repair and has excellent flexibility when done. It will not be as strong as a weld in a PP bumper in terms of peel strength, but that is not a stress your repair will ever see unless you hit something. But it will flex with the bumper and not pop off like a lot of adhesives will. Be sure to use an adhesion promoter over the repair before filling and again before painting and paint adhesion will be great too.

  • @philwhipple4557
    @philwhipple4557 Před 4 lety +2

    A screw and a washer takes about a minute.

  • @Everything91111
    @Everything91111 Před 3 lety

    It must be reinstalled, will it work ?!

    • @scottb7600
      @scottb7600 Před 3 lety

      Yes!

    • @Everything91111
      @Everything91111 Před 3 lety

      @@scottb7600
      Video should reinstall after repair, to ensure that it is working properly

    • @scottb7600
      @scottb7600 Před 3 lety

      @@Everything91111 As long as you use the correct filler rod, make the slot the original size, and the material around the slot is as thick as the original bumper then it will always snap in. This is type of repair is something body shops do routinely. The repair can be done even more quickly and easily with the use of the bumper pliers from Polyvance. www.polyvance.com/Hand-Seamer-1/6146/

  • @JT-fl1wr
    @JT-fl1wr Před 2 lety

    uniquement pour des pièces que l on ne trouve plus sinon aucun intérêt vue le temps et le prix

    • @scottb7600
      @scottb7600 Před 2 lety

      C'est ta perte. Vous pouvez gagner beaucoup plus d'argent en réparant les pare-chocs qu'en les remplaçant et vous aideriez à garder beaucoup de plastique hors de la décharge. Bien sûr, comme pour toute réparation, vous devez peser le coût de la pièce de rechange avec le temps qu'il faudra pour réparer, mais à moins que la pièce ne soit très bon marché, facilement disponible et ait beaucoup de dommages, la réparer est généralement le moyen de aller.

  • @andrewlerdard-dickson5201

    And the tools and equipment required to attach this will just magically appear at your front door or garage !
    For you to do all this work for your repairs.........if you ask me you would be a lot better of just replacing the actual part altogether.
    It would be a hell of a lot cheaper and you wouldn't have to go through all that stress of the possibility of buggering it all up and having to replace the damn thing......add that to the tutorial !

    • @polyvance
      @polyvance  Před 2 lety +1

      This particular tutorial isn't for a DIYer. This machine is a professional plastic welder for an auto body shop to use. They would be more familiar with this type of process.
      However, we do have cheaper tools that DIYers can use.