Plasma Gun Design, Particle Ion Beam Weapon SciPhi 08
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- Revealing my design for a Plasma Gun. SciPhi ep. 08. I hope to build this device and share the whole process freely with you now, but I will need help with funding. Please look at my Patreon page, read the pitch, and consider contributing a couple dollars if you can! Link: / jaycubl
This is a unique invention that I designed in 2010 and have kept secret except for one friend who I told the same year that I designed it. This design has been revised a few times over the time I have been thinking about it, and this is the newest most refined version.
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Okay all guys lets donate man, and make him a scientific breakthrough with this.
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I like the unique Railgun/Coilgun combo. Each of those work!!
I have a very different way of creating high energy plasma while maintaining enough atmosphere in the chamber to sustain multiple shots. We should chat.
I would love to hear it
What is your way?
Is it a dense plasma focus?
Personally, I'm contemplating a 2 channel hydrogen converter to use a oxy-hydrogen mix down a vortex cannon to create the toroid. It'll have to vent spare oxygen through a blowout valve, which raises an issue or two with safety features. A little water in the stock and a charged battery should be all I need, since it's 1.3 volts per connection for peak generation off a graphite node/plate.
Metric sounds sweet to ears :))
Good video, searched quite a long time for understanding plasma railgun concept :))
Thanks, this gave me an idea to build up on to make my own Call of duty Raygun mark 1.
MY GOD I HAD THIS SAME DESIGN ALL DRAWN UP IN MY HEAD A YEAR AGO. So thanks for making this video because i had no idea if it would work and i don't know how to do all the math for this. great job my dude. hope you get the funds to make a proto-type
I really want technology like this to be used not just as a weapon but as a protective device
The video is super clear that its easy to understand the video
I've always been interested in these since the days of playing the original PS1 Armored Core. My go-to was always the shoulder mounted plasma cannon.
Well, the only reason i am here is to create the pineaple that shoots plasma from platypus XD.
@@meganixi5282 heck yeah! Love extreme monotremes!
@@Hungry_Tree_Ghost wow, i actually really wanna make them and fly them, just my parents wont let me fly things, and i dont have much knowledge over
" *plasma* ".
Immaculate conception
If you aren't already working on this, you need to message Colin Furze or Jeremy Fielding and have them collaberate with you~! This is just to awesome to have confined to a research log book gathering cobwebs~!
That man deserves a like and a subscription.
Cool thank you!
Fantastic stuff man!
Great video, please keep the good work.
Thanks it is encouraging to get positive comments!
I had a very near this idea awhile ago, and just started looking for something similar- then found this. Nice job. I would love to see a prototype- maybe go onto distributors from China or something/scrapyards, double check your math, ground yourself, and get some demos up!
Plasma is conductive and has a magnetic field , neat , coool idea to propel it with another magnetic field .
this is genius
I would love to build that one day. Once I would get the material and the tools I might test it out
I will eventually get around to making this. My friend Jacob has been attempting to make what he refers to as a "Plasma Cannon" and I want to make this to aid him in the process by giving him something to scale up and improve.
This is so cool! I'd kill to see a prototype of this
Stumble upon this video while looking for more info on a "plasma thermal gun" from a book but this is wayyy cooler.
Well done
Thanks for watching!
you are a genius
Oh it looks like you're right. What I was trying to say was to use the plasma to propel a solid projectile.
Yes that can be done. Like an electrothermal gun you mean?
JaycubL yes like that
You could probably make a project I'll reach mock 10 or higher if you construct it right
I'd imagine this would require an excelling amount of heat to acquire any form of gas in the plasma state, it's a very interesting design, but it will cool and return to gas within a short time of firing and exiting the chamber
It would only last a fraction of a second yes but at say Mach 10 you don't need long to reach out a couple hundred yards for a useful plasma gun. I also have the idea that directing a microwave beam along the path of the plasma shot would increase the plasmoid's life span to a potentially much longer time.
JaycubL JaycubL Your idea of a directed microwave beam sounds kind of like a MASER. You seem pretty bright, so I reckon you know that a MASER is a LASER but utilizing photons at microwave frequencies instead of visible and near visible light frequencies.
The better starter circuit design would be a single charge on the whole outer tube, and a very fine ground pin through center, opening up into the secondary cavity. Taper the pin into a long needle shape and this allows the torus puff to expand and form, then expand and accelerate in the second layer
the military better give you a nice high paying job bro
*darpa
amazing work my friend! look up "project marauder" It seems the us was playing around wih one of these around 20 years ago using theitr insane massive "shiva star" capacitor bank to create projectiles that did damage comparable to a high explosive charge. Right after that it went coompletely classified
How can you dislike this?!
subbed to follow this... I've been thinking about this for a while. I got the idea from the movie eraser, but it's way out of my depth, i have 0 engineering education. My initial idea was to find the densest gas and find the best way to form a toroid at high velocity and then spark it upon exit. Possibly sustaining the plasma with an ionic tether from the gun like a taser or multiple toroids in quick succession forming a chain to the gun... but i can see you actually know what you're doing. I can't wait to see your experiments.
Yay thank you! Yes I am working on gearing up to do some real experiments this winter, hopefully within a couple weeks to at least try some first test.
Jonathan Covington maybe xenon
Looks like someone finally found a breakthrough
If you put the gas inside a fiberglass chamber with a magnetic case, and a smaller tube, couldnt you potentially make a projectile that will travel extremely fast that holds plasma instead of it dissipating?
That is something you could possibly do yes but part of the point is to not need any ammo. If I can't ever get it working then I would maybe do something like that.
Billy Adams use a magnetron!
@@JaycubL I've wondered if its possible to magnetize a spherical projectile suffient to contain the plasma and carry it far enough to be a practical weapon.
Maybe it has to be shot together with a fast argon gas stream
@@JaycubLtry hold plasma in air, creating microwave road for projectlice, Toto- "Hold The Line" :-)
Depending on how hot you could keep the plasma it would make
a killer cutting torch.
This is like a phaser cannon from star trek..
I had a similar idea watching how the sun launches the corona plasma ejections..
This design is good for plasmic environments.
You will need super cooling, unless you make cold plasma. It is one of the Ancients' weapons, so it is doable.
Thanks for your comment! I think the distance between the plasmoid and the ceramic barrel would be enough to prevent heat from being a problem, but I agree that a liquid cooling system would be great for a use where weight is less of a concern. Limiting the duty cycle can also do a lot to prevent overheating.
I'm working on a similar project. try replacing the plasma armature railgun with a spheromak for better confinement and stability. also, rather than a constant-speed linear induction motor, go for constant-acceleration instead; depending on the direction of ion flow, an additional compression term will emerge at relativistic speeds, improving confinement times, increasing instantaneous likelihood of fusion events, and at a certain energy creating self-sustaining heating
think big. weaponry is the least of the potential applications. if you end up creating steady-state MCF, give me a shout-out and consider publishing under general public license
Hey I also have schematics and I was working on a plasma gun as well.
This concept reminds me of the Air-zooka toy, but with plasma instead of mere compressed air.
The stabilized toroid of gas is the same concept yeah, like smoke rings as shown in the video.
JaycubL: The tube of an airzooka is conical in shape rather than a perfect cylinder though. (not sure why)
This design would likely work considering that the US Navy's version of this is much less thought out. Their plasma bolt travels around two feet at 70,000 degrees in open air. They don't have a linear motor or any magnetic field controlling the plasma ring. Question is if the linear motor can increase longevity of the plasma life span in open air?
the FBI wants to know where you are
Now to build it would be fun
Yes I am going to, I am looking for some of the equipment currently.
I and many others very much wish to see a use for this idea, other than weaponry. Maybe welding.
As cool as the idea is, I believe that would require insane amount of power to actually work as an effective gun.
And the plasma toroid wouldn't even be that damaging either. It's extremely lightweight, atomised and flat, so it would just desintegrate against anything solid, in comparison to a regular ball round, which is dense and straight and can penetrate many times it's own length.
And the fact that it goes extremely fast does not take away from the fact that it's heat is going to dissipate just as fast. It doesn't really matter if the toroid (which is a shape with lots of surface area) goes through a length of 500m in a second or in two seconds; it will still make contact with that much air. Also, I think such an unaerodynamical shape made from a material as fluid as ionised gas traveling at such ridiculos speeds would just immediately collapse into the shape of a water drop.
And how much heat can such a nimble projectile even carry?
The only advantage this system has is the speed of the projectile and, at that point, I think you are better of just using a laser :/
I love this! But...At 3:25 I think the B-field of the external coils should both go through the copper gap in the SAME direction. The way it is drawn, the fields would just cancel each other at the copper barrel. Also when the main Cu coil is pulsed with the high current, wont the vortex be attracted to the center of the coil where the field is strongest--and there is a possibility of the vortex being sucked into the gun--like the problem with a coilgun.
Assuming this works, the projectile could potentially bounce off a magnetic field? Or just kinda fade off after being deflected? This would be super unpractical even if you could maintain the projectile and have a convenient source of energy. At least it looks really cool
You would need a large and strong magnetic field to be sure to deflect it. That same principle is technically true of any electrically conductive projectile (of course the low mass of a plasma projectile makes it more vulnerable to that). Armoring against this in that way would be impractical especially for infantry. If you consider a vehicle with panels of thin electromagnetic coils on all sides, you will notice that the plasmoid would either be deflected a bit but go through the field anyway , or enter at a pole and be undeflected, or if the field is very very strong enough to completely deflect it, then the plasmoid would grab a level of the field and ride at that distance from the magnet along the field and be pulled directly into the vehicle at the edge of the field, where panels facing different ways interfere (since once the plasmoid enters the field, the magnet would resist relative change in distance, so it would be hard for the plasmoid to leave). It may be possible to experiment and come up with an effective armor for this, but then you can still scale up the plasma cannon size to add more mass and velocity, and just force your way through it with more powerful shots. I think against any normal armor (like solid shields of various kinds) this would be able to penetrate because it is designed to be able to stack many shots on one small spot very quickly.
This could be a very dangerous and strong plasma cannon.
Electromagnetic rifling. It needs to not only roll, but it needs to twist as well. Double helix your magnetic induction. Should be able to throw at least 10 ft.. not a bad start tho.
I love your thinking. Would you be ok with it if i built it?
Well I hope someone does! I will build it too when I get around to it. I would just request that you remember where you saw the design.
JaycubL I most certainly will. thank you for giving me your blessing.
Australia Aquariums I think it's like sucking the plasma into the magnet chamber. similar to a coil gun. I know the plasma would diffuse quickly though unless I got super fancy lol
Australia Aquariums Not bad for the beginning.
NITESCIENTIST i would help n donate if u
Hi did you ever get to make a working model, would love to see a test fire ;)
What if you made the exiting tube conical? Wouldn’t that make the plasma more dense and create a nicer boom?
The MARAUDER project used this premise. It's believed to be in development, but its currently classified whether it still exists.
It did work, however. It created explosions the same size of that of five pounds of TNT.
Yeah I since learned of those experiments, it is encouraging! They used an entirely different mechanism, but the idea of generating a plasma toroid and projecting it at a target is the same.
What electronics would you be using to create the plasma arc/ toroid?
the plasma would go out but jood job
How big would a working model have to be? And would this be the size of a rifle, could it be scaled down to the size of a pistol or would it have to be as huge as the navy’s railgun?
Holy shit this is EXACTLY the same concept I thought up! Haha.
I couldn't work out how fast the plasma would actually move through air or how far away it would dissipate. The numbers I arrived at were... Too high to be believable.
Oh, mach 85! I had similarly ridiculous numbers.
@@ThunderChunky101 In the video it said 8.5 not 85. Considering the low mass I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to reach such speeds in the accelerator.
JaycubL I can see the kinds of speeds you predict occurring in a vacuum. The issue with operating at Standard Conditions is that your plasma toroid has a very poor ballistic coefficient and low momentum. The effects of atmospheric drag will decelerate your plasma toroid quickly. Even though this qualifies as a directed energy projector, the plasma toroid is still a physical projectile, albeit an exotic one. Since you cannot ameliorate the atmospheric drag effect in any significant way, your best bet for making up for the loss of kinetic energy would be to increase the mass of the plasma being projected, increase the density of the current plasma thus decreasing the surface area effected by drag or increase the energy, i.e., the temperature of the plasma. Any one of these changes will help and a combination of two or all three is even more desirable.
I do vape and do O tricks, you have to make the vortex not too slow and not too fast or it will break away. You have to make the speed somewhere in the middle, if you want make it like a video game plasma gun speed it wouldnt happen from this design. It's gonna be like peeeuuwwp lol
That it not actually true, search for images of vortex rings made from a gun for example. Probably from your mouth it is just difficult to blow too hard and not disrupt such a gentle ring immediately afterward with additional breath.
I'm young(er than most adults on the internet) and would like to do/experiment with plasma in my life, doing something to progress humanity.
Edit: what I'm trying to say is that I want to build this and make my own plasma-based tech.
So once the toroid leaves the barrel it's going to encounter immediate resistance from the surrounding atmosphere. Because the plasma discharge is so light, it's going to decelerate very quickly.
Although it's a good concept & should be built for proof of concept.
cool
If its shooting charged particles , maybe it can be a fast electronic device emp killer? Or drone killer?
Have you considered a beam driven approach using the dense plasma focus configuration? this should result in an elongated reversed field pinch that decays slower with greater surface area for magnetic coupling and has a better aerodynamic profile since the beam drives out gas from the path of the plasmoid. Also a beam driven pulsed plasmoid would have the benefit of recharging the toroidal current flow in the surrounding plasma sheath after each pulse from induction and redirection of beam ions into the sheath. This technique would be best applied with your induction coil producing a rotating magnetic field that matches the beta orbit frequency for electrons at the diameter of the barrel. That should keep the walls free of plasma and thus safer from corrosion.
Thanks for your comment! I haven't considered a beam driven approach like you are describing. I have thought about a possible ion beam weapon driven by emissions from a dense plasma focus like what can be seen on the focus fusion society website, but I am not clearly seeing why you want to combine that with a projected plasmoid in the same weapon (other than what you described about the beam keeping the plasmoid alive longer). My opinion about recharging the plasmoid in flight is that a microwave beam would be a good choice. Protecting the barrel from the plasma should not be an issue since the linear induction motor constructed like it is shown in this video would compress the plasma to the center.
JaycubL Very nice. I considered the DPF superior as a source of plasma for another reason. A spark gap preionizer behind the anode made of two pieces of copper wool after the gas intake. Instead of entraining only the air mass between the rails from the gas feed, the ionized gas would pinch itself through the anode and the dense plasmoid formed each pulse. This way you can introduce large volumes of fuel that is conductive before entering the gun bore.
OH I see, thank you for clarifying. You could create a "heavier" plasmoid that way, that is what you are saying right? Plus help with the ignition. Yeah I like that idea of a pre-conditioning stage for the plasmoid. For a denser plasmoid it might be possible to use a rail material that erodes fairly quickly so you end up with a lot of metal / metal oxide vapor in the plasmoid.
Have you seen the NASA plasmoid thruster using a reversed field configuration RFC? They use 3 or more phase rotated coils to generate rotation in the ring plasmoid until it elongates and then squeezed out of the barrel using conical copper tubes to asymmetrically confine the RFC plasmid. In my ideal approach a beam from pulsed dense plasma focus would peel itself apart into the reversed field configuration as it rotated through the linear or linear rotating magnetic flux. That make sense? The beam forms the backbone of a ring or a serious of rings that merge into something that tunnels through the air like a worm.l, turning itself inside out to slide frictionlessly through the air.
JaycubL There is a small team called Electrofluidsystems that has a video on CZcams titled "Breakthrough in Air Breathing Plasma Technology" or some such. they use nanosecond pulsed circuit (not sure if AC or DC) to generate non thermal plasma arcs to the anode to get a nice magnetohydrodynamic curve for electrons to rush to the tip in a gradient magnetic field with a conical apex. The anode spits out a cone of ions that would be a 3D rotation of the 2D arc from a two armed railgun. Any volume of ions in the center of the cone is going to much hotter and hopefully the interaction of the gradient of ion speeds in the path of the beam in contrast to the toroidal plasmoids generated further pinches and accelerates the core beam. A coaxial flow of ions is established such that a partial vacuum separates the beam and the ring plasmoid so they can move as a packet with low average density colder, more neutral plasma sheath delivering a denser hotter core of fast moving ions.
Plasma bolt weapons have been figure out a long time ago with Shiva Star and MARAUDER. The reason we don't see them around rn is because direct energy weapons on the battlefield have been deemed inhumane and banned from use in warfare by the UN. Just like wooden mines and mustard gas.
Awesome design I have some things I wanna try. I had a really similar design but I didn't make the plasma into a ring so it didn't shoot like at all. Also no need to make that magnet thing just use a coil gun
gamerdudes superelite pretty much is a coil gun lmao.
so are you planning on ionizing the gas as it enters the system? or pre-ionized propellant? because that can be a huge difference in power draw.
I have a few different versions of the design but in the version presented here the "rail gun" section at the beginning would start from a non ionized gas and ignite a plasma (ionized) arc with a high voltage ignition pulse.
Introducing magnetic choke points in the linear induction coils would cause compression and expansion of the ring plasmoid. Is it possible to coax the ring to behave like an ion beam in a synchotron where an undulator magnetic array forces acceleration in ions and a release of constructively interfering and highly collimated light? At each point of maximum compression or expansion the ring would suddenly change directions, inward or outward, at which point any charge particles would give off radiation from the change in diameter because this changes the path of the particles radially to their motion. So like a 3D plasmoid version of a synchotron.
Would this help with self heating or pre-ionizing the path to targets if the plasma was not cooled too much? Is this going to fry the interior or will the radiation be highly directional? It seems like the structure of the ring plasmoid would give off this type of radiation in both the forward and backward direction until the forward speed exceeded the speed of the electrons and positive ions in the backwards components of the rings MHD flow.
Would adding airflow and microwave energy add to the fire power of the weapons systems ?
is there any way to contain plasma in some kind of clip and\or container? My idea for this is to be able to contain plasma and be able to release it as a weapon. Think of the carbine rifle from Halo.
You should be able to run the firing mechanism on one or two 9 volt batteries but you either need a capacitor or rheostat to regulate the pass of electricity. A capacitor would give you a higher energy shot with a low fire rate, and the rheostat would give you the reverse. Also instead of using atmospheric gas in a shuttered container having an open end that closes when you fire would be easier to install and better for the gun, otherwise you would want a pressurized container of re-loadable gas (CO2, He, Ar, ect.). A pressurized system would need a regulator in order to not jam the plasma gun and cause a misfire like you already have in the original design. From the stuff that you have you could just make one with aluminum, copper, and iron. You just need to get enough iron shavings for the magnetic coat and electric resistant plastic to coat parts of the chassis. You might want another battery for the barrel and to keep the entire prototype to the size of a pocket rifle to make sure you can adjust the mechanics.
Hi thanks for taking the time to leave a comment! I do not think a couple of 9v batteries would even come remotely close to supplying enough power, a couple of big lipo batteries might supply enough for a lower power version. I agree that it would likely work better if you have a controlled gas feed with selected gas mixtures for best performance.
You could use a plasma discharged to project around and says the plaza for being the primary room itself
??? I think some auto-correct may have happened or something.
JaycubL use the plasma to propel a solid projectile instead of using the plasma as the projectile
I do belive that that would make more of a plasma trower than a plasma gun. Similar to a flametrower... since there is noting holding the gas into a concentrated bolt once it leave the barrel. Also you have to use batteries and gas tanck and not magazines drums or belt to feed the wepon. So i would raname it plasma trower as flametrower is the closest exsisting wepon concept.
This can actually be done the design is simple and can be done
hey the ring is like a mushroom cloud.
My design has evolved quite a bit since I first messaged you. I'm taking a different approach but the same basic concept is intact
Cool what ideas did you come up with as improvements?
Well, I'm basing it solely on the railgun aspect and taking out the coils completely. I'm gonna use the expanding gases and the right hand rule to form the vortex ring, and to expel it from the barrel. Our two designs actually differ quite a bit now.
I guess I do not really see how it would work without the linear induction motor section. In my design the entire other part is just to form the "bullet" for the LIM to heat, compress, and accelerate.
My design accomplishes the same thing, but I'm using a much more direct method of doing so. I figured that its much easier to move the plasma with a differential in pressure rather than use of magnetic fields.
Gas pressure can move the plasma, it may be possible to project a plasmoid that way. But when the plasmoid forms (at the exit of the rail gun section) that involves slowing the plasmoid a lot, spreading it out to a lower density, and mixing with cooler surrounding air, trading that energy to form a more stable vortex in a convenient near symmetrical shape for the LIM to heat, compress, and accelerate. Maybe I am missing something about what you mean? It sounds to me like your design is just my design except with an important part chopped off... meaning a plasma armature rail gun with a muzzle designed to promote the formation of a toroidal vortex from the muzzle blast. My thought is basically that if you do it that way you may be able to get a toroidal muzzle blast of plasma to move out from the gun a short distance if you generate a very powerful muzzle blast, but (compared to a plasmoid fired from a gun as shown in the video) it would not be very hot or dense and would not be able to move very far or fast at all. I also do not know what you mean about using the right hand rule to assist in forming the toroidal vortex.
you need something to ionize the air so the plasma has a path to ground. a fairly high power laser would do. it's like lightening following to easiest path to ground. it of course can be done theoretically,but the power needed would negate it being a hand held weapon. in future if an efficient capacitive power source and a solid state lasing device, perhaps a hybrid tube/diode assembly if invented it most certainly want be available to the public. it may not be classified as a lethal weapon,but there is a very high potential for serious damage to the nervous system if the plasma is tuned to lock with the human one. if the active energy beams are raised high enough,it could easily incapacitate a moving vehicle or heavier then air craft. you may adopt this info for you development sir.
Is there not a need for a large capacitor right before the coils??
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I personally dont think this would work because the vortex is going to push itself due the high negative loading apart .Please correct me if im wrong !
WhAt about taking this to the next step & amplify the pulse by using a "lasing" approach, where the pulses bounce back & forth in the accelerator tube by using a repelling field where the diaphragm goes? Time so that the magnetic diaphragm opens after 1 second . This would create a major single pulse with more Joules. One could even create a "force field" around a spot. Any thoughts?
I guess I would need more explanation to know what you mean. So you want to stop the plasmoid, shoot it back to the beginning of the barrel, and cycle it like this a few times then release? I don't really get it. Maybe if you had a circular accelerator to build and build speed over several passes you could get something like the buildup to a stronger shot that you are describing.
Next you should create a plasma grenade.
you could make the sci fi rifle of the future
I had the same idea two years ago, and the patent application is pending.
Edit: Thanks for the heads up. I came up with the concept in good faith and I honestly think it's cool that our ideas are so similar. Here's hoping either of our applications are accepted.
I don't believe you... you should be careful about such a claim, fraudulent patent pending claims can earn you a $500 per day fine. Anyway I designed this more than 6 years ago.
Thanks for the edit, if you really do have a patent application then that is cool. Good luck with your version of this. Are you going to try to build it?
Absolutely! My design is slightly different but I've been collecting parts on a student budget since I came up with it. If you're curious, look up Professor Randy Curry at the University of Missouri-his device goes but it's harmless.
Domenic DiPasquale Thanks I will look it up!
Military already developed a plasma rail gun in the early 90s. The MARAUDER.
Like plasma bolt
The plasma rail gun is a great idea but the plasma’s density is too low to be a functional projectile. If you could incorporate a magnetic chamber with a small projectile like a bb (that can deal with the temperatures involved) then pump the plasma into that chamber and then accelerate the plasma - bb combo down the “barrel” then you’ll have a plasma projectile with enough density to be sent down range and have An impact. The bb would be a sacrificial component of the shot
I would like for you to build this but I want to ask if you know of any ways to propel the plasma at a faster speed for means of penetration. So far it seems as though it would not be able to penetrate too well being described as a sort of plasma-cutter. Increasing the speed of the plasma may pose as a problem as the aerodynamics become far too rough to control and so the vortex created may be too large at higher speeds. If I am wrong, how high of a speed would you say is plausible for the plasma projectile?
Since the plasmoid would have such a low mass, it would travel at incredibly high speeds. Speeds like what you would see from a particle beam weapon should be possible. But also due to the low mass, it would lose energy quickly on impact. Stacking many shots on the same spot very quickly would be possible and should make up for that. Only real testing will reveal things like exactly how well in can penetrate various materials.
JaycubL also, speaking of particle weapons, though this particular proposition has spun up from a very funny interest in half life and maybe just a bit of Tesla research, would you consider developing a simple, portable particle accelerator weapon? I have experimental energy research and designs capable of supplying moderate quantities that the task calls for which are primarily electromotive in nature, not truly requiring excessive amperage. So if you are acquainted with the tau cannon, just understand beforehand that no "miniature tokamauk" is necessary lmao. And of coarse the tau cannon is just science fiction at heart, but i believe something unique can emerge from an endeavour of this kind. I already have some immediately brainstormed thought of a circulatory system similar to that of a toroidal vortex for the better escort of any group of particles open air. The idea is to generate a lower pressure zone for lesser environmental resistance and increased accuracy as well as range. How i would create such a problematic field, let alone make it's effects occur at around the speed of light in synchronous with the particles ejected, i have no immediate clue.
JaycubL and before i end this comment bombardment which heavily suggests my lack of a life, i would also like to ask if you would like a basic prototyping module free of cost after the initial resin shell is casted? I am sending one to another research partner of mine for faster development, but you being one of the only existing individuals with enthusiasm towards this whilst also holding the knowledge to aid in your production, i would like to give you one as well for consideration and maybe even critique. Not many og us currently, and even if there are, most are governmental sellouts and assholes who restrict knowledge from the public assisting in the pacification of society, and nullification of individual tendencies of this kind. So many use wonderful and powerful inventions daily despite having no relevant understanding of the actual principles in play allowing for such. It's, discouraging.
How about some plasma bullets too
The plasma will turn back into air at the exit...
You should consider how long a "smoke ring" can be stable and how they can be fired hundreds of feet and still carry the force to blow things around / knock stuff over. Supposedly an air-vortex cannon powered by an explosive gas mix proved itself capable of breaking lumber at 200 yards in a 20th century experiment. The toroidal vortex ring is self stabilizing. That is the point of designing the device to form the plasmoid as a vortex ring, so it will not dissipate immediately. If it were fired as a "glob" or regular jet of gas then it would dissipate quickly sure.
I know the stability of vortexs. What im talking about is the temperature. The plasma will turn back into air because there won't be anything to keep it hot...
Ohos Usani There will be an electric current in the ring, which will drop quickly but due to it's magnetic field the current can't drop instantly. At the speeds that should be possible, it would need only a small fraction of a second. Larger plasma guns would be able to produce "projectiles" that last longer. Exactly how far it can reach out is to-be-determined, yes. We will see. If necessary it would be possible to send energy to the plasma from the gun via radio / microwave, it would be a drawback if that is needed though.
iain schmaloer In a linear induction motor there is a continuously changing magnetic field. At high frequency/high power the induced currents will be very strong. If you do not understand that RF / microwaves can sustain plasma, then you can see evidence right here on CZcams by searching "microwave plasmoid." The magnetic field of the plasma ring after it leaves the barrel is proportional to the current flowing in the ring, and it cannot instantly disappear (as the current drops, the collapsing magnetic field induces current, so the current drops more slowly just like in any inductor).
apeture123 Hahaha weird excitement noise?! Like what noise a fart or something? Yeas you would get different colors with different gasses. Some gasses would be better conductors than others, and some gasses or vapors could create a denser plasmoid.
Jaycub L, I have some questions to make and some things to point;
1) I thing for the copper bars you need a power supply with a HV transformer and for the coil an other power supply with an amper trasformer.
2) If the tube is bigger in length and in diameter would help the plasma go further, get bigger and more destructive?
3)Why copper bars? Aren't just copper plates or arcs fine? (The arcs should be placed at the beginning of the inside of the tube, so the plasma would be accelerated.) Do you want a magnetic field? But the HV transformer reduces amps too much. How many amps are enough?
4)Don't you need a good heat conductor around the tube so the coil won't melt?
5)Isn't it very likely for the plasma vortex to go immediately in your body or in the ground, as they both are electric conductors?
6)What would happen if the target woulden't be an electric conductor? Whould the plasma just pass the target without hitting it?
I am just asking because I don't know much about it. Could you please reply?😂👏
1) You don't have to use transformers but yes that is what you need to accomplish with the power supply.
2) Longer accelerator would allow the plasma to reach a higher speed yes. You would reach a limit where you need higher power or a vacuum/evacuated barrel to accelerate further though.
3) It would need to be electrically conductive bars, it could be other materials aside from copper. Graphite or tungsten surface with copper or silver main body would be a good composite for the rails. They need to be thick and sturdy bars, not thin plates, to withstand the magnetic forces and intense electrical discharge erosion.
4) The main coil should be mostly safe from the heat of the plasma since the magnetic forces of the accelerator would center the plasma ring in the barrel and compress it toward the center. It would likely get hot during use though from ohmic heating.
5) No
6) Does not matter if the target is an electrical conductor or not.
JaycubL it won't hit the ground or you, because the plasma goes very fast? Would the plasma have a bigger impact on the electric conductors? By the way, thank you very much for your help.
The plasma would "not care" if the target is a conductor or not. It is not like an electrical arc seeking a path to ground, the plasmoid would already have neutral charge. Think of it is a little ring-shaped tornado of very hot air/fire. It would be affected by magnetic fields though since it is ionized (it is a good electrical conductor itself).
JaycubL thanks. Now I know enough. Thanks for the time you spent with my questions.
JaycubL Sorry for disturbing you again, but I want to ask three things;
1)The iron-epoxy mixture will reflect or absorb the magnetic fields? I think if it reflects them, then the magnetic fields will neutralize each other, making the weapon weak and not much effective.
2)How this iron-epoxy mixture can be made?
3)How can someone be sure that the plasma won't go from the opposite direction and hit him, destroying also the weapon?
I would really like to make one this summer and that is why I'm asking too many things.
I don't know about a plasma gun, but in theory at least it might make a pretty good thruster of some kind.
True, but it's similar to advanced thruster designs already in use or nearly so, like the VASIMR, but simpler. Their thrust isn't anything impressive in the short term, but give them a few weeks and they can achieve some serious speed.
why not use either a compressed gas by firing it into the back of the rail section. It should give it more momentum and it might go further before disapating.
another idea I had is to just use something similar to a blank bullet, it creates high velocity gas and it's easy to reload.
For use in vacuum or to maintain a high rate of fire you would need to pump gas in to the chamber, but I don't think it would have much meaningful effect on the final velocity of the projectile. The original version of my design had a plasma pre-heat chamber with a shutter in the front and rear, and a powerful electric speaker or small bit of chemical propellant would be used to push the plasma forward into a chamber to form the toroidal vortex. So you and I though a similar thing there. My opinion is that if you are going to use a blank shell you may as well just fire conventional bullets, since requiring blank shells would negate many of the advantages of this plasma gun design. The short rail gun section of my design is extremely mechanically simple and does the job of both generating the plasma and accelerating it enough to form the toroidal vortex, where the linear induction motor heats, compresses, and accelerated the plasmoid. No moving parts, no rounds to load, nothing to jam or limit rate of fire.
So let me get this straight I can make a frieking plasma cannon from pacific rim
i feel like the vortex would lose it's speed really quickly upon exiting the barrel
Seems sound to me 😂😂😂. No. The gas has got so little mass that it will be fighting against air even before it exits the barrel. Energy will dissipate as soon as it leaves the B field because it's momentum is far to small minuscule.
Inject seawater or ionised water at high pressure and meeting the same firing frequency of the arc.
How big would the tube have to be?
The logic is sound, as far as I can tell. The bottleneck, as I see it, is basically that you need to get the plasma _really_ hot, and move it _really_ fast to accomplish any sort of destructive action at any range.
How do you propose to accomplish this?
The linear induction motor. If you can stack many shots on the same point each shot would not need to penetrate that much individually, if they can just cause a rapid high temp erosion, like delivering a small plasma cutter downrange. All was proposed in the video other than some details and critical features of a more sophisticated design that I am saving aside for possible patent if it ends up working, but the video describes the basic idea as well as I can explain.
How far can the projected gas go?
I and one other person I know have designed a more advanced device very similar to this.