The Limitations of the Mpc 2000XL - Before you buy one
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The value of the MPC 2000xl is going up. OLD IS GOLD
Yeah, it's getting ridiculous, it's a good investment for the future of my kid, maybe in ten years it'll go for 20K
Yup and I'm glad that I got mine back in 2019 before the prices went up. I'll never sell it.
@@mpchead even the FX board is probably expensive too
I've got 2 mpc2000xls fully maxed out. One of them has the JazzCat analog filter installed. I'm glad I bought them over 10 years ago. Money in the bank for sure. Better even.
Are MPC 1000 and 2500 going to moon next? I have a maxed out 2000, and don't think i'll ever sell at this point. I'm priced out of the 60/3000.
While I respect the cats still using the older machines...I've been there already. Asr10 for years, but I love tech and the progression of tech. If I can "dump" tracks by saving them to an external or an SD card I'll do that. Same with sampling. I've already done my dirt. Spent years digging and thousands on records. If I can just plug my phone in and hit shuffle on a Playlist, I'ma do that. The progression is dope, like I said while I respect the mpc60 II, 1200 and 2000xl gang. I'm totally fine with moving with technology. I have the live 2 on the way coming from a maschine mk2 and I'm not trippin over being old school and "keeping it hip hop". I've been there before. It was dope, but it's time for me keep it movin.
I'm with you. The asr 10 omg! It's a really nice machine for the time. Load while playing polly after touch etc .. but shit it could put hate in your heart sometimes with the minimal sample time and tiny screen
@@ryanhom3006 none of that bothered me, but that mf crashed non stop towards the end and because of that I didn't make anything for almost a year. Just lost the motivation honestly. Then I got the mk2 and that changed the game for me.
Well I can dig that But I have Been there also ,Back and Forth but I always come back to My MPC 2000 xl had Both Machine software way before i had the Machine And MKII early 2000's the MPC sound will always be around. the only thing left is to totally emulate it, Sound SWING etc.
@@ericdunn1113 man, if you like it I love it. To me as long as you’re happy with your gear I got no problem with what you use. I’m sure you’ve heard bangers come from the MP AND FL studio. Just make dope shit and don’t let anyone tell you what you should and shouldn’t use.
@@ryanhom3006 I had like a minute and a half sample time on my asr 10
humans & limitations is often where the magic is. the 90`s was pure musical magic due to those limits. the 2kxl was a wizards wand and the users were the magicians.
Take off those rose tinted glasses 😁
@@project-95 take that chip of your shoulder 😀
haha I agree for the most part, I love old machines but not for the sake of it, it needs to sound special to justify the price. When the XL came out everyone said it sounded too clean, now everyone says it sounds amazing. I think it sounds great, but compare the price and modern features on the Live II, is it worth the trade off?
The multi pitch and note off function tightness in the sequencer and simplicity is what makes it a killer. You can get around the Eq by knowing how to balance the filter and resonant.
Dang! I really needed this after pining for a 2000XL for over a year with homes of replacing my MPC1000. Really glad this was made, thank you.
Sometimes the live can be too much for me to create. The 2000 classic offers enough for me to just create. I sometimes over think using the live. Great video showing the differences.
I agree that when making simple boom Bap or jazz rap the limitations work great, but when making more ambitious and complex downtempo or trip hop stuff, I find the XL really
frustrating without the mute groups. Also since my external filter in my rack broke recently, it’s a real pain not having the high pass built in.
@@milesb9191 Yep even chopping longer samples with the jog wheel or the fader is annoying. And the filter, envelopes, modulations is lacking. I have the 2kxl and the thing I love is the build and the sequencer is pretty solid. But its probably the same on my MPC one
@@J-Hz For sure. I always sample records for the drums in my beats and the amp envelopes and filters make the mpc one a real beast for sound design. I will say the modulation isn't great especially if you come from a DAW background but it works for simple stuff.
This notion is funny …and I’m really tired of hearing when it come to the “new machine” …
@@milesb9191 Are producers this dumb? This is a genuine question! I've been hearing this sentence ALOT "Too many option in the new MPCs, limitation makes me creative"?
I truly don't understand that these guys are real producers and musicians or just 40 years old wannabe??? If you ever go to a restaurant with a huge menu if you know what your belly wants you will choose what you want. If you don't you will be lost and order whatever the waiter suggests if production is based on that then I guess anyone can be a Producer. Just buy the gear and start the roller coaster. PITTY!
As an MPC2000XL user, the limitations are an advantage to me as it forces the creation of building manual EFX and adding other sounds underneath. To me it's golden, but I may look into an MPC Live in the future.
@Cosmic HiFi May try that in the future but right now I'm all about bare-bones bests where you can hear and feel how the samples actually are. I usually record into Audacity and add a delay effect at the end. Other than that, just keeping it raw.
@Cosmic HiFi That works as I'm knocking on 47. My small vinyl collection was damaged in a flood several years ago. Will rebuild one day. Until them, it's CZcams and manually muddying up via record static, hiss or whatever lol
I really love the 2000xl but I had to get the 1000 with the JJos XL and it's just incredible!
Got mine a few weeks ago for 750 dollars. I think I made a good investment. And yes, I want to use it for what I do. I got one almost in mint condition!
Great informative video. Salute
I got my first job in a recording studio in 1972 at age 18 in Cleveland, doing tons of razor blade editing of 1/4" tape, recording on 16 track and 24 track Ampex 2" Machines. I edited with razor blades for about 15 years until I got my first personal audio software program, I am so happy for the experience of doing razor blade editing. A lost art most will never experience. You had to be 'brought up' with that technology to appreciate the new DAWs. Its the same with the older MPCs. I never owned one, then I bought a 2000xl about 3 years ago and couldnt hack the wait times and struggle. If I would have had the experience of using one when they were the rage, I am sure I would have had an appreciation for them like the razor blade. Great video as always.
Wish I had had some experience from tape. It's a beautiful art that I missed out on.
@@mpchead Yes M, those were the best days of my youth in the 70's, I was excited and hungry to learn everything about audio I could in those days of splicing tape, analog multitrack reel to reel recording, analog synths, recording sound effects from scratch, etc. Hard to imagine we would rewind the reel tape for each take in a session over and over it was 2nd nature, now done with an instantaneous press of a button like on an MPC. Thats why I have such an appreciation for this stuff, many today have no idea what came before. Thanks.
It's nice to get an honest take by an experienced beat maker. Back when you could by an XL with the effects board AND the 8 outs for $500 it made a lot more sense to buy a used XL over the new gear and live with the limitations. That being said, I've convinced myself that there are some sonic characteristics of the XL that are advantageous. Still, those sonic characteristics are probably not worth the extra funds. At the end of the day the exact sonic characteristics of these samplers don't make a huge difference to me (maybe excepting the 12 bit machines). What matters is how you put it all together.
Its crazy to listen to a bunch of cats saying the akai MPC 2000XL is "Limited" (Im not ofended at all) but yall really need to see @ToneLabs tutorial on this machine yall get a much better idea on the amazingness of the 2XL
When I bought my 2K, it was for drums and sequencing. Using it for sample based beats wasn't the big need. I got it for exactly what MPCs were designed for. And that's the point I think is missing for a lot of these videos. I'm just seeing this one after it popped up under another video. I dig Marlow and some of these creators, but technological advances aside, the newer machines lean ALL the way into the way folks do sample based music now. Manufacturers really didn't grasp and implement features based on how the producers were using them until the period of the XL to the MV. So to me, there's almost zero need to go to an XL or regular 2K over a One or Live. It's not even worthy of a lengthy discussion and I LOVE and still use my 2K 😁🤷🏾♂️
I own a MPC X ...I don't even use my MPC 2000XL anymore.. I the only thing I didn't add on the MPC 2000XL is the effects board.. I added the 8 outs, and I maxed out the memory. What people have to realize is the technology is different..
The one and xl I have and the work flow of both is quite different. But having that knowledge of the 2000xl made it really fun for me on the mpc one!!
Wow those are significant limitations you pointed out with the XL. I think someone coming from the newer generation like myself would find those limitations frustrating. Thanks for making this video!
yeah honestly the sound isn't even great on the XL. I loved using the XL but I can't go back to it ever since getting the MPC One
BTW Marlow I think the max ram of the 2Kxl is 32MB???
@@peterkadarmusic9728 it is
FYI Yes, the 2000 XL can mute each other’s pads
up to 2 only, like I said in the video. No mute groups. Thanks
The latest Mpc(X, Live 1 & 2, One) is a great tool for today’s music production. It’s a lot to learn but it worth it. I like some of the older Mpc(2500, 4K and 5k), but it’s not logical to have in my opinion. Great video 👍🏽
I have older gear like the 2000xl and the EPS classic but they're not my main gear to use. I use them once in while for the sound. My MPC Live 2 is my main baby
@@JEFFMAN90 that’s what’s up! I’ve got the force and I love my Mpc Live2, but the force is my go to for most of my works.
have you found any apps that you could use to create pad sets and transfer them to mpc2kxl, or are you just purely using it as a standalone? there used to be some like the mpc editor but it doesn't seem to work anymore
Gracias por el video, Marlo. I have to laugh, because I just purchased an MPC2000XL in great condition, almost mint, two weeks ago. But what you are saying is spot on. To achieve a high pass filter, reverb, etc., you will need an external sampler connected to it, such as an SP 404. The eb16 effect/sound board is super expensive, ranging from $350-$400 on eBay and Reverb. And the 8 assignable outputs, the price range is virtually the same as the effects sound board. For the price of the sound board, you can easily purchase a used SP 404 or a used MPC One and have all the effects you'd need. Thank you for the video, hermano. Bendiciones!
There's no such thing as a perfect sampler.
It's always a question of how comfortable you the process to be.
I personnally have a 2000XL and i figured out how to make sh*t happen despite the limitations.
Drums machines have no souls but you can give them a part of your soul. You have to feed your sampler which makes the sampler an extension of yourself, your taste in music, your sense of timing, pitch and velocity. Having a piece like the 2000XL says a lot about your level of thinking when it comes to chopping and flipping samples.
You have to get out of your confort zone to master it.
Having owned both a 60ii and 2000xl since new, and only recently getting into the new machines with an MPC ONE, - just to see if I liked the new OS, - I have to say, I personally find the older machines feel more like genuine instruments, where as the new units feel more like DAWs in a box, - which is no bad thing really.
But I do like the limitations of the older units, and personally, I'm not a big fan of the plugins, effects and pre-loaded sounds that come with the new machines, especially the AIR plugs, they just don't work for me, - I'm not saying they're no good, I just prefer external processing, as it creates a more personal sound, - plus I've been buying outboard since '86.
love to ALL, feel no hate
AKAI, if you're reading this,
Airwindows plugins and Goldbaby wav is all the new units really needed, IMO. And, it's never too late.
exactly limitations spawns creativity
I like the live tho and I still use my 2500 I love both work flows as well
You don't have use them though, can just carry over your old work flow to the newer machines
This is always an interesting debate. With the 8 outputs and external gear (or VST effects) individual sounds can get FX added and mixed externally. To mix in the MPC the FX board does a good job but having the 8 outputs means you have the option to either use or add external FX.
The more I research the new models the more I'm intrigued and want to give them a go. My friends who have the X and the Live all like them but our workflows and styles are all different. The 2000XL suits me and how I work. I might borrow my friend's X to see if I like it. The plan is in my head now, lol
Thanks for making this video everything has limitations but there's always work arounds
It is what it is, and it works fine that way, doesn't make it worst, it's just it's way of working.
good vid ( even Im not looking at getting a 2000xl ) the 1010music blackbox I think is a good side sampler, you can filter and also is nice to browse files (compared with mp), small enough to not get you out of the mp
the Mpc 2000 XL is an instrument and not only for sampling,so yes if all you do is sample and chop songs (which I do a lot of myslef) then I guess it's basic but still to me it's way more valuable than how you describe it in this video...
Explain
I’ve had this exact blue 2000xl for over 10 years. Looking into getting a Live soon.
I see a lot of people saying limitations bring out creativity. But most of the time thats coming from a boombap hip hop perspective as mostly samples are used so the 2kxl is great for it on its own. But a lot of the other style of music from the 90s such as deep house, jungle, dnb etc, they used the mpc as well as other outboard gear such as rack samplers, effects modules and synths.
some synthesizers or even synthetic synthesizers controlled by a midi controller like fl studios can be considered "limited" if the software used was cracked or free like if you couldn't afford an mpc back in the day you used the MTV music generator 1 like I did to learn Until you could obtain the gear and tools needed. (that is what I was referring to as far as limitations not what a particular peice of equipment can manage) but even in the retrospect I would literally squeeze blood out of a rock and make it work ,and that is why today it seems so easy to do or use them and any gear because of that hardwork, dedication ,passion and diligence to get this good by obstacles limitations provided me.
Pad mutes are way my XL collects dust. I can’t sit for hours slicing perfectly while the 1000 works so much faster. Playing out patterns isn’t comparable at all. The XL pads are butter. I just can’t sit there editing longer than creating. Good video 🕸👍🕸
Thanks
thx!
I like getting sample and loops build up in XL and record into maschine/cubase for editing
The 4000 can do everything you spoke about
Aight but what about sound? About unique 2000xl punchy drums, swing etc that 90s flava.
Is it worth to buy one just to feel the vintage vibe, just to feel it, touch etc.
Im looking for that sound, im not the guy that thinks XL will make my Beats better.
I was growing up on music from this device, i love the sound.
I have got my own style in beats, u guys Think if ill buy one, ill Fall in love with the sound of it when ill record everything to it?
Thanks for answers .
Peace
Also timestretch.. Man I do a lot of time stretching and it is a breeze with fl studio, I mean I can timestech a sample to make it last for precisely 4 bars for example. Plus you can see exactly how much longer or shorter does the sample need to be on the playlist, you don't have that capability with the 2kxl
sampler on the side works a treat! get one with a good compressor like the Roland SP series and resample, make sure get a SCSI2SD to make life easier (mimics a scsi HDD). The limitations get the creative juices flowing!
Mpc + Sp404 still my fav workflow
Wow... being able to select which pads you want to edit is a blessing then... even Ableton's Drum Rack isn't as accesible. There you can only right click on a parameter and then "copy value to siblings" to apply that new value to ALL pads which is not always what you want.
Ive owned the xl and it can do magical things. The snares and hats come through the mix like nobody's business. That being said if you sample a sub bass or anything super low frequency, when you play it back it will be lacking some bass. I currently own a mpc1000(very clean)and mpc60mk1(dirty)and have used an mpc3000(just nice) extensively (my friends). The other limitations are actually an advantage.
After making just one beat on the 2kxl I realized how useful fl studio is and I appreciate it more now.. Honestly I need more flexibility.. Think I might sell it for an mpc live or something..?
I’m getting both MPC 2000xl & live 2 Retro going back to Akai. It’s what producers do is by doing the “Impossible” and being creative 👍
To.
Very informative video.
I didn't know about these things, now I'm seriously wondering would I be able to switch from mpc one to mpc 2000xl, which is the mpc I've always dreamed of....
It's no easy task
You could save your program before you pitch it, and just reload it if you want to go back.
Instead of previewing one sound at a time, you can load a program with a bunch of sounds and then just preview them from the pads.
I only use my 2000xl for drums and sequencing, so the stuff you’re talking about doesn’t bother me. I also have an s5000 with the effects card. You can go really deep on the 5000. I don’t think the 2000 was ever meant to be someone’s main sampler. It’s a drum machine
the mpc2000xl is still a fun machine to goof around with, I don't care what new gadgets come out lol 😆, that baby can crunch the hell out of some drums though 🎶
I have had a 3000 and a 2000. I didn't love them. I do love the MPC ONE and MPC X SE. I have considered an MPC 2500, but for 1000 I could get something that I really want for making music.Thank you for the video, it really confirms exactly why I just will never go backwards. Vintage gear is very cool and I defiantly can see why someone would consider it, but it isn't for me.
i picked up a 2000 classic that had no OS installed, so they couldn't test it other than it turned on. Waiting on a floppy disk to see what's good. Let's hope it already has the EB16 effects installed!
Mpc live and sp404 combo is the best. I sample and chop in the mpc and send the chops to the sp 404 for eq and fx and send back to the mpc. I prefer the fx in the sp than mpc.
I do it the opposite. I sample into my sp404, add effects then sample into the Live 2 for chopping and sequencing.
I do same with ableton and 2000xl i chop everything in ableton and record it in to MP. Than i record from MPC XL back to ableton if i need compression or eq its best workflow ever
@@nuendo2020 I do similar, just with the 2000.
I’ve dislikes the new MPC’s as I come from Elektron… but I just bought an old 2K XL…
On the 2000 you can set voice overlap to mono to acheive what you describe, making use of the envelope to set release etc. Are you saying this is not possible with the xl?
(2000XL user here) Yea , it is also possible to do that on the XL and probably what came to mind to those who are familiar with this MPC. Either dude was not aware or didn't care to include that tidbit cuz it would void the first limitation. I would imagine it's the former; he may just not be familiar.
Just got the MPC 2000XL two months ago and I feel what youre talking about :-D I'm used to the MPC Studio along with the MPC Software, so the workflow without filtering and stuff is kinda new to me... I don't have an audio-interface right now to track out my beats, but i'm thinking about tracking out my beats to the DAW and then mix/filter it there...which audio-interface and DAW to track out beats from the 2000XL would you recommend? btw I don't have the efx board and the 8 outs installed
Any Daw will work. You just need to get an interface that’ll allow you to track out 8 tracks at a time
@@heniousdelvon Nah, that wouldn't give me benefits, because my XL only has the 2 stereo outs. With that I only have the oppotunity to track out one track at the time. Does this mean I have to re-sequence it all in my DAW? Would love to see a video of Marlow tracking out his beats from the XL to his DAW
Well then just use midi…. That’s how i have my XL set up in pro tools. I make the MP the master then i arm a track in PT and print it in there. It’s Always a work around
What do u have your Bpm set at? I make boom bap & lo-fi I think I need to change mine from 120 to around 95.
Around 86
There are a lot of limitations in the XL, and I think a lot of people buying them at current prices will be very disappointed. Storage is the main thing, and XLs like Marlowe's with the factory flash storage are very expensive and hard to come by. Figuring out your own upgrade from the pretty much useless floppy drive will require a decent amount of experience working with 90s PCs and reading dozens of pages of forums to find out what you actually need and if you can find any of it anywhere. And getting it to be hot swappable is even harder. Zip drive is another option but not a reliable one.
I think people over value hot-swapping, and once you leave that behind a simple CF card solution gets you a full gig of storage with none of the limitations of floppy emulation setups. Absolutely the way to go. Still looking at a $100-150 investment for a no effort solution on eBay etc. but I've been very happy going that route after trying all the other options.
addonics CF card reader , 20 quid ! and a bunch of 1GB cards. But nowadays just get an X or a LIVE , NO ONE needs a relic sampler nowadays, apart from the Smithsonian.
Guys. I have a 3k limited and you know what I’ve had to recently cop to?
The editing features on the classic MPs are 30 year old tech.
So… don’t think your doing something “amazing “ by using them!
Why chop with them?
Just use your faster easier time saving modern day devices, transfer the edited sounds to your old pads and build songs from there.
Your not getting the punch/feel/ filtering/timing of a classic MP on todays software.
(Sorry. You’re just not)
BUT! You can get a honest representation of vinyl samples on your computer!
(I mean, when Marlow samples vinyl, you can tell right?)
Guess what! You’re listening to it on your computer.
AND! You know it’s vinyl.
Anything I drop into my MPC 3000 sounds like an MPC 3000!
Native instruments expansions all sound the same to me.
“Potato chips” I call em.
Because the processing is basically the same.
But drop a few of them joints into an old hardware sampler and BAM! Same old magic.
That sound we love.
Using vintage samplers is the same as using vintage hardware.
They are what they are and do what they do.
Sound fantastic!
I could care less about spending all day chopping in the old units.
Get your sounds ready on your modern device, then dump em into your classic MP.
(Or 950… you can put sterile plastic sounds into a 950 and it’s coming out sounding like the 950.)
Life is short.
Chop on the new stuff.
Filter on the old.😎
Great video. I have a question.
Why people use more drum machines to make beats?
For example, you got the 2000xl, you got the mpc live and u have the mpc X.
I think you should make a video about it
Thank you for the idea Andrea 👍🏼
you can set it up to mute pads two at a time per sample
Yes that's true
great reminder of why i sold my xl years ago
first touch and contrast of sound quality between two, and you want to buy 2000XL
Can someone please create/update the 2000xl? JJOS? Really want portamento and sample start point control/automation
I don't miss my XL at all.thought I would but nope. Have a Live and it is all I may ever need. That and a DAW. And some synths and drum machines. And some effects. But that's all.
Will the JJ OS not add all of these features you mentioned that the original OS is missing?
I wish, but JJOS is not working with the 2000XL or any older Mpc.
@@mpchead daaaamn! i could have sworn it has a version 2000xl also but no :(
A while ago i buy one. But i struggle to learn the MPC 2000xl.
Can you make some tutorials?
I have one on Chopping samples.
I now understand why so many 2k users love the SP-404 or 303. They really complete each other workflow wise. The MPC 1000 with JJOS (my daily driver) pretty much fixes all these problems though
Mpc1000 jjos2xl and ya laughing ay mate
Soundwise 1000 is so thin i only use my xL to beef up the sound especially if i resample to 12 bit. Its great for house music and boom bap. I use ableton for all other stuff even new mpcs are a joke compared to ableton imo
You can bit convert on a mpc1000 from 16bit all the way down to i think 8bit. You can even do them all in 1 go or convert them all differently. I do like the sound of mpc 2k straight out the box though, its deffinetly different
Dude you can make all 16 pad cut each other off i know this machine with my eyes closed.Dope solid unit.
My thoughts exactly. It's an instrument, and he don't know how to use it.
The mute thing I think is possible, but limited to only two other pads. So if the pads are one after the other, than it can work. If you juggling around pads combination than it's going to overlap. So in that case there is the second choice of mute, but that's about it. Having the 2kxl and a sp303 or 404 or whatever and resampling cutting the bass freq. can help to don't get everything cluttered in the lower frequency, as there is only the low pass filter available. These comments about the hipass filter are completly no sense. At the end I think there's a lot about been listening and checking to use the right sounds! I have just repaired my 2kxl and i can't wait to use it to resample my projects already done in Ableton to maybe found more simplicity. Softwares leave you to create lots of channels/stems, in here the point is to do 4 programs or fewer more to than playing around and have a simple structure. In software I tend to spend ages doing little fixes (comp, eq, delay, reverbs, parallel comp, sidechain) but if the song is trash, than is easier to delete it, and start with a better one! Sometime I take too much time on soft to try to make better something that is so-so. You can't ask to this machine to do too much, but for what they do, and the sound palette they offers I think it does pretty well.
Will you ever get the S2400?
IDK, the last thing I need is another sampler, I wouldn't mind trying it out though
I just got my 2000xl last year before prices went up fully loaded for 600€ im so glad i also have maschine mk3 and dont even use it old MPC is much better. I record everything in to ableton so i dont worry about limitations
I've got an 2000xl just given to me I've set up a music Studio I've been told to go for Ableton I was going with Logic at first ..Is Ableton good to produce Hip Hop beats and is it easy to run with The 2000 xl
So what's the best new mpc and thanks for this video
My favourite is the Live 2
@@mpchead TY TY TY
@@mpchead Over the mpc x special edition
With all that was said against the MPC 2000xl , every time you played a sound on it verses the newer unit I still prefer the Sound of the MPC 2000xl.
16 bit
Me 2 crunch sound analog
The more I look into buying back my sold 2K the more I want a Live II
Live 2 bro, it sounds as good as the XL and does way more.
@@mpchead it's a no brainer! I'm just not convinced the XL has any magical sound quality to it to make it worth using the outdated workflow, unlike other 90's machines
Bro, dont understand why you say that the samples dont cut the other samples of another pads, because on your videos and others doesnt seem that. Great video
Maybe I didn't explain well, I am saying that you can't change the entire program to monophonic and you don't have mute groups. The only thing that you have is the option to mute up to two pads per pad, that way you can gave a certain control over the mutes but it really isn't a good workflow.
@@mpchead thank you. It is more probable my english fault than your explain. Thanks a lot, your work is dope
Mute groups from my experience, though I recall you can control the polyphony and or mono cueing.
poly mono just for one pad no the entire program
@@mpchead put one long sample on a pad use velocity to start to define ur regions, use 16 levels velocity, pad to mono to create auto cutoff grouping
@@MessiahofEvil nice tip!
Are these limitations so even with the JJOS?
XL doesn't have OS
@@mpchead Ahhh ok wow, thank you. I'm learning. Which classic MPC would you recommend? I'm looking at 1000, 2500, 5000
Nah , sold my STUDIO 2000XL, got the X and the LIVE , sooooooooo much better . NO need for a XL now . . . . .
Listen to the producer “exile” . His instrumentals will give you an idea of what the mpc2000xl can do. You can make amazing beats with it if you can work around the limitations.
I think you’re missing the workflow of the 2000xl. Whereas the mpc 2.0 platform allows you to ingest samples and then affect it with filters and plugins, you really have to FEED the 2000xl what you want. Which is why a lot of guys feed it from a dj mixer, for the eq. Anything else you want (compression, post sequencing eq, bus eq/comp), you really use the 8 out add on. Which is why it was an add on, you grow into it.
It can still be a beast, but using a modern mindset is going to lead to a lot of frustrations.
Yeah, if I know I want something high passed I'll use the EQ on my DJ mixer. Quite often though I'll do a batch of sampling on my 404, grabbing everything interesting off a record, messing with FX and EQ, then sampling into the XL to actually make a beat. Even if the 404 had a worthwhile sequencer, it doesn't have normal pitch adjustment, and the XL has a really intuitive sequencer that I prefer over every other sampler I've used.
@@AfferbeckBeats So if I am understanding you correctly, if you want to high pass filter something, you will do this on your SP404 and then sample it into your XL? I am just trying to understand, because I just purchased an XL. Thank you, Blessings!
Excactly
@@nuendo2020 Thank you!
Shoutout to the blue MPC gang
Watch STU BANGAS make beats with the MPC2000Xl and you will see that its all we need.
The 2k XL is able to choke/cutoff poly/mono samples but its a bit different. Like pitching it is one by one and you have the think which chops you wanna play (and in which order). and great video btw. 😊
Yeah I know you can choke/cut off up to two pads per pad but I am saying the entire program, all the pads at the same time or mute groups with more than two pads per pad. Anyway I hope there could be someone with the codes for this like JJOS to at least change that. Thanks for tuning in bro
@@mpchead its actually possible to create 2 mute groups with 7pads that all cut eachother, but its veryyy deep, if youre interested i have made a written tutorial about it ;)
Okay now halfway through the video you mention it. Its actually 7 pads max. Per 16pads you can have 2 separate groups :)
@@LucaBrasiDrunkCatPaw Another way is just to assign the same samples to more pads and have different mutes for those pads
I uploaded my tutorial : www.kosk.ee/xlcut it might look really tricky but you can totally do it and save your program on floppy/sd.
I wish I knew how to make beats, man, for real
lol everyone styled like how we grew up
I think I spoke to soon before I watched the whole video I get what your saying now Marlow I never used a 2000 XL more than twice I use 2500 live and MV8800 I get what your saying about the polyifany peace
You worried about the wrong stuff ex & compression lol man please. One thing about it if you jammin you jammin, the mpc 2000xl is the best only second to Roland tr 808
The Live and XLs are the same price, and often the Live is less expensive. For features and workflow the Live is so much better for me. I can't think of a single advantage that the XL has over the Live. Bit that's just me.
Ya the XLs are overpriced nowadays.
i have the 4000 ppl say its trash and limited unlike the modern mpcs etc but i believe that just comes from people not knowing how to fully use it in ways that doesnt seem possible.
There's a 4000 selling here, I really wanna grab it but he's asking too much, 2000€
The polyphony is not true though bro. All u gotta do is do autochop in the edit window where u adjust the envelope. Everything doesn’t have to be note off/on or trigger mutes. But yes …when I went from the 2000xl to the MPC Live, I felt like I jumped 150 years in the future. Not even joking lol. I would NEVERRRR not use the Live or X again. Best machine ever
Me too. Sold all but one of my vintage samplers and am focusing on learning the Live. It has everything and I can crank out beats so fast without getting bogged down in file management, tedious chopping, etc.
Efx board, another mpc or sampler, and 8 outs are a must with the XL for most producers.
THE 2000XL is for the BEAT MAKER, it's more of a Drum machine before a Sampler.
hi-! :)
I bet the new generation would struggle with a late 90s to mid 2000's production set up trying to produce beats. Makes me wonder if a computer, was taken out the picture. If it would cripple the production of a new producer on them not knowing how to produce or make beats without a daw, software/ plug ins, or computer monitor. Can they adapt and work off gear thats limited? Rely on their ears instead of a visual? It might step up their skill and creativity...
I recently sold mine, I got £500 and it was in mint condition, kind of gutted I sold it but it was just sat gathering dust. They are good but very limited on there own. Looking at maschine mk3 now.
I would've kept it bro
@@JEFFMAN90 yeah I've just seen what they are going for, Im tempted to buy a classic to get back in that game again, hopefully a bargain will show up they always do if you hold out.
Everything he said you can't so, you can do it on the mpc 2000xl
I hate the 2kxl workflow and would only bother cos it has amazing sound/timings. I hate the new mpcs bc they sound rubbish and thin.
Only thing I dislike about the XL is no audition while the sequence plays
A few videos about mpc beats, I know that for you it is the same as the hardware, but for me it is still unattainable, therefore I am satisfied with the pc, that's why I implore you to make some more videos about the software, so you I'm going to be able to get all the juice as far as I can from the computer, thanks dog! I don't miss a single video of you, even if I don't understand shit hahaha but I learn more by watching, than listening ...
What software? the Mpc software? The mpc works exactly like the software, everything I do with the new mpc you can do in the software, it's the same.
no
😭 but I love my 2000xl
I love my XL too
I will buy 2000xl from you no problem bro :)
Not selling :)
The only limitation is the person using the machine, I get it, new technology has advanced drastically BUT with all the latest bells and whistles on today's MPC's i.e. massive ram + HD and mute groups etc , the industry still lacks creativity. Kanye West still uses an 2000 and has produced hundreds of hit records. Not the machine it's the user.
Kayne dosent still use a 2000 ...
the new mpc's are toys. these old ones take patience . kids these days want short cuts. pirate sample packs and its effortless to make ok sounding beats.
My MPC 2000xl can do everything you said it can’t do. I don’t think you know what you’re talking about. FOH
Ok
Smh what a stupid comment @PM2-6
@@JEFFMAN90 dude must be trippin
Tell us about the high pass filter on the XL bro...
@@JEFFMAN90 The features that you said the MPC 2000 XL didn’t have are almost exclusive to the machine itself. For example One shot pad mode which allows you to mute the next pad hit creating a smoother transition. You said it couldn’t do that. 16 levels mode etc… Using the filter decay and resonance to create high and low pass filters. The MPC 2000 xl is a very capable machine that does everything you said it couldn’t in your video. Misinformation.
My solution to the mute groups has always just been to play the samples with NOTE OFF. You just gotta time it right and make sure you "overdub" the pads a bit so they sound perfectly played together. (so you don't 'hear' the chops )