When I was 14, I saw a lot of others in my age-group do roleplay-engagements/weddings with their online partners, only to break up less than a month later. Kermit and Piggy were probably 2 other 14-year-olds who had never met in-person; don't feel bad for breaking up the equivalent of a playground wedding.
@@marcar9marcar972 it’s called role play, and any 14 year old can sound like ab adult if they word things adequately, plus not adult breaks up over 3 dollar commissions
Man lemme tell ya at 14, you handled that very well, because it couldve been baaaaad. It's a super scary place to take commissions at a young age on the internet.
agreed, im in 9th grade and absolutely shocked at how many young artists can innocently do commissions online, only to find that some of the weirdest people can be reeled towards you and ask for weird things.. i considered doing art comms online at one point, but people like those always steer me far away from that idea.
I suppose a good thing is that they don’t know your age, and if it’s anything like people wanting freaky commissions you can put “will only draw safe art” etc But yeah when it comes to financial related things and kids on the internet, that’s usually a terrible mix.
The whole entitled screeching over posting non-commission (or other commission) art is the reason I find queues like trello so helpful. I always make it very clear wherever I'm advertising that your art won't be worked on until you are at the front of the queue and it has been marked. If someone starts screaming and crying when their card hasn't been marked yet, it just becomes a case of "wow this person can't read" lmao hasn't happened in a long time, but when it does that's usually also a good sign to cancel the commission, because they likely haven't read your TOS either. Or they did read and just think the rules don't apply to them, which is extra yikes.
An artist’s TOS is basically a list of shitty experiences they don’t want to happen again. Nowadays I just give people a guestimate about how long I will take. Then they can decide if that time-frame works with them or not. How I am able to plan my time is up to me.
Trello looks mad pogged didn't think much of it when I saw it collecting virtual dust in robotics but looking at it again it looks so much more betterer
When most artists say you stole cause you were INSPIRED by a pose or the way art looks baffles me so much even if someone made money they're flourishing as a young artist let them freaking LIVE
@@corazon.c how can one trademark a body pose or post type how can one trademark a color they can't that's why they search out young artists to scam with this that's starting out
@@creepy-kitty colors can be trademarked unfortunately, but totally not by random small artists on the internet, so :p they can scream and cry all they want, we live on Earth, not EArth where you put certain colors behind a paywall bcuz you like them.
oh my god that happened to me when i was 13 i was inspired by an artist and tried to learn how certain techniques in their art worked and in response i got the most devastating heartbreaking vaguepost written about me saying i was copying them and it fucked me up for years, the artist in question was 20 then, i wasnt making any money off of this either i was just a kid drawing my and my friends characters
heeelp the extortion part reminded me of my friend who got "called out" by a grown man because her fursona happened to be...another black lion. the designs looked nothing alike. they weren't even the same shade. we were high schoolers.
Something similar to the Foxy situation happened to me a couple of years back, another artist in a fandom I was in accused me of copying their pose (it was also a super basic pose, drawing raccoon, I feel your pain) so the "I hope Foxy's getting royalties everytime someone uses their copyrighted poses" legitimately made me laugh, thank you.
I had a similar issue some years back. Did some personal art with a Pose I really liked only for someone that saw it to also know the source image i got the Pose from. only for them to try and Imply that I had somehow stolen something by using a Pose. As I had never had a problem like this before it really got me into a Panic and I actually DM'd the original artist to apologize over it. I believe their response was just "Ok".
@@SorenKisamora It feels terrible to be accused of something you’re clueless about, especially when it’s a crime. Feels like the world is crashing down on you, and it’s even worse when you’re young. I remember freaking out over getting a copyright strike on a CZcams years ago, thinking I was going to be charged xD Also, your profile picture is cute, is it one of your drawings?
As a 34 year old artist I've learned over time that fandoms have plenty of people like "Miss Piggy" though I've found avoiding them is easy --- the fact that this one had any money was what surprised me XD
Part 5 happened to me, not literally but... I made a Splatoon adopt once, a person asked to buy it, and when they had to send the money over... They just said "no I'm not buying, this character looks exactly like this one". The only thing in common was the species and a star in their shirt. I was so confused I asked the OC creator about my adopt was supposed to look like, and they were as confused as me. DeviantArt is definitely something.
Thank you so much, I’m so happy to hear that!! :D I was genuinely so insecure about my voice during my first recordings but I’m getting slowly used to it. It feels nice to tackle new mediums and defeat insecurities while I’m at it! And I definitely have more planned. I’ve even started working on a few already ;D
Man I wish my parents let me have social media as a kid cause I wanted to do comms for a years. But I'm lowkey glad I got to hear these nightmare stories before I decided how to go about doing it as an adult.
@@12Tecpatl well the thing is it didn't stop me. I just couldn't take commissions. I was gonna have one either way. I just wished they were more supportive so we could have found a good safe way to go about things rather than all the stress that came my way
@@actualblack I did have social media. I had to be hella secretive though. I didn't post nsfw or anything I just wish I could have shared my pride in my work with my folks.
Reminds me of my commission as an tween where a grown ass adult commissioned me to draw a chibi character kneeling down in a cute pastel outfit… farting out a green cloud Yeah I asked my then (still now) boyfriend, he laughed and instantly told me my commissioner had a fart fetish and bf was right on the money.
That feels so surreal- Like a story... I honestly feel bad for you, that must suck to meet such weird people. The internet is full of it sadly, and we can hardly change it-
Mr Kermit's such a nice guy, we need more people like him in the world also, I love your style of videos, especially your lil racoon character, it's nice and simple for a style like this
You handled this situation way better than I would've at 14. I was always worried about accidentally drawing a character that looked identical to someone else's, so ending up in someone's post about art theft? That would have been my worst nightmare. Great video! I'm shocked you dont have more subscribers.
Subbed: This is one of the problems of doing fandom art, especially with OCs. Typically those OCs have relationships, or had relationships, with other OCs. So in the customer's eyes, the commission isn't just "Oh I want the world to see my OC and their friends and the cool stuff they do;" you're literally providing the narrative for their OCs story. And that can become a sticky situation very, very fast if that customer, and by proxy that OC, hasn't been the best person to others in the fandom. Sounds like you handled it the best you could have, especially for being 14! I still can't imagine being 14 and having some mafia-like conspiracy you feel the need to hide from your dad. He probably would've been like, "Uh no, you're not paying [Foxy] one red cent, they're being a bully."
I now know to check the commissioner before hand cause you can never know how’d they turn up once you start working with them. Usually my worst commissioners are “Gonna commission you to draw this for my friend” Cause they get SUPER PICKY and demanding. Which means i have to banish them to the shadow realm after it’s all well and done. Here’s a couple of them: -I had a commissioner demanding me to livestream the progress of the commission. I was super nervous and told them it makes me uncomfortable but they didn’t listen -A commissioner told me to finish a commission under an hour due to a event happened on their end and started to curse at me -A commissioner threaten to take their money back if i wasn’t solely working on theirs… dude my dad had a car accident I was frazzled couldn’t focus on the computer 24/7. This was all for $15 btw -Creepy commissioners that sent me ‘I know you saw my message’ So here’s a pro tip to young commissioners out there. 1. If your client / commissioner is being a asshole to you. INSTANT refund them. Please don’t tolerate their ill behavior and keep your mental state at ease knowing you won’t be stressing out working for them 2. Make a ToS ( Term and services ) So when a client try to back you to a corner you can slap a ‘Did you read my ToS?’ If they said no which means they didn’t agree to it and you can’t get in trouble for it. 3. Your time is valuable! Not only charge them for your art but for your time as well. Cause damn art takes awhile to draw haha
When people commission for art do they usually know what the time limit it is to create it? I’m also curious what you put in a ToS for something like that 🤔 I’m and artist and I’m selling my own pieces but I want to commission as well… Do they usually pay before and then you make it? I get worried that the customer won’t like the outcome. I guess that’s probably why the commission has examples? But I think sometimes there isn’t always an example 🤔 Sorry for the paragraph but I’m curious! 😅
I’m absolutely in love with all the random characters used as stand ins- when Batman showed up, I started laughing out loud haH Great vid, I really enjoyed it
Just to make it clear, there's no such thing as "pose theft" or "composition theft". It requires alot of skill to replicate a pose with different characters and designs. So it's safe to say that Foxxy here threatened a 14 yo kid with baseless accusation. This is the kind of thing that pisses me off to see as a working artist.
Plot Twist: Kermit is secretly Batman, and when he saw his own wife, Mrs. Piggy, telling Wowza to copy his own art, he felt mortified… (Also, no wonder why Kermit is so rich. He’s literally Batman)
Fellow artist here. Really felt this video, had very similar experiences when I was doing art in fandom. I know that feeling of "what if this very specific and random thing happens AGAIN" that you described. Thanks for making the video.
Seriously Wowza, super entertaining! xD I loved all the characters you used and the fucking Kermit in the white jacket lmao. You should do more of these. I love it!
The internet is seriously something else 💀💀, in my own experiences thankfully I haven't experienced full-blown theft yet (knock on wood), however I did have some random throw-away account blatantly ask me if I would draw them pr0n.... I was 15 - 16 at the time, WITH MY AGE DISPLAYED IN MY BIO :) The only response I could muster was the reaction image of Jesus peeking around the corner saying "No."
that foxy design is- ✨✨ Literally perfect! This video is a fun watch and I can't believe you don't have more subscribers considering the video's quality, I can't wait too see how you progress in your art + youtube journey!
Framing this all with muppets characters made it so much more hilarious than it probably should've been I understand the feeling of trying to do something nice and accidentally getting into situations with horrible people because of it, their words(and actions) haunting you every night when trying to sleep
Oh my freaking god... you were just a 14 years old teenager when you experienced this. I had a similar problem with a couple of clients like a year ago, I was 21 back then and I was in a freaking mental breakdown while trying to deal with them; I dont wanna imagine the level of anxiety you had to go through. ;w; I'll say it, fuck that "Foxy" guy, what the heck do they think its gonna happen if they start yelling at anyone they find on the internet, that's just not okay. (Also, considering that the whole issue of "THAT'S A POSE FROM MY DRAWING, YOU NEED TO PAY ME" its pretty ridiculous, they definetely needed to chill a bit...) I'm really sorry you had to go through this crap when you were younger, MY GOD. ;w;
This is why I draw but don't consider my self part of the art community. Sure there's a lot of nice people but there's also alot of crazy ones that take simple shit way too seriously.
yeah it’s hard to find art friends and it sucks to tip toe about copyright… or when they find a “problem” in your art and blow it out of proportion. There’s also the art “critics” 😂 they have no problem telling you what is art and what isn’t…
@@SpArkyTheDerg Yeah I literally just checked my sub count for the lols and went “oh no oh fuck now i actually gotta resurrect this dead channel 😭” But fr, that is the plan, just gotta finish some stuff first. Stupid fuckin university and work getting in the way, the absolute audacity… Well anyway, see y’all in -an undisclosed amount of time- ✌️
I'm always terrified to post art while working on a commission simultaneously for that reason, even though I really have no reason to, especially if I'm taking on other commissions.
Thank you so much!! :) Maybe if I was actually consistent at posting pfff but I aint a full time youtuber, so everyday life gets in the way. Hope to post more stuff someday soon tho
@@wowzadawg3838 Don’t push yourself too much! We all (I’m speaking for the majority of us because well… why would we be here if otherwise?) enjoy and respect your videos, but that doesn’t mean you should overwork yourself just because of your channel. (Sorry if this is paranoid or a very late comment, but I just wanted to say this because no one is forcing you to keep on posting these if it can get in the way of your life ;D)
When I was 9 I was on a smaller drawing forum that was very intimate, everyone knew everyone. I made some really good friends there, some of them I am still in contact with today 20 years later. a few of the people I befriended were in their late teens, but I just felt cool for having these older kids' support. But one of these older people I befriended suddenly decided that I had stolen her character because my character was a designer and so was her's. Her boyfriend contacted me and told me to change my character and threatened me to get me thrown off the forum for stealing. It was so traumatic lmao. Anyway, that guy ended up getting a spot at the same art college as me over a decade later. We were even in the same year. He didn't know I was the 9 year old he once harassed because of an OC's occupation. I never told him.
This part made me chuckle 7:00 . I get that you were 14, never knew Foxy or Nightmare Foxy on someone’s profile picture could make them more intimidating.
The way you animate is so cute and a good way to recognize the artist, my fav par was when lil raccoon started drawing, caught me off guard but it was so cute and cartoonish that I love it a lot, I will never forget it
The screeching when you draw your own characters thing is something I can hard relate to, and why I hate doing commissions, because you don't know who might be that person who blows up your dms because you dared post a picture you made of characters doing something and not a picture of their oc as if you are required to do so. Those experiences are scary everytime.
I feel very bad that you got yelled at when you were 14 by someone random on the internet BUT the way you animated you crying was so cute and my heart hurt
The number of people who get wrongfully called out by bigger artists for "stealing art" or stealing their "awesome oc design" on deviant and other places makes my blood boil. Half of the time, these cases can be boiled down as kids taking a bit too much inspiration from a single source because they still dont have the maturity to come up with a trully original design or straight up....JUST someone taking inspiration from your work. To every artist in here: If there is similarities between your work and someone elses, IT DOESNT NECESSARILLY MEAN ITS STEALING OR PLAGIARISM! Colour and pose "theft" is not a thing and you shouldnt feel pressured to change a design for small factors or colour palets!
yeah, i had a friend who accused me of stealing a character i made because she said it "looked too similar" but the only thing that was even remotely similar was that they has a half and half color pattern on their design. like huh? you cant own a pattern. we aint friends anymore but yeah
It’s fun to be inspired by other people’s work- like WHAT IF SOMEONE MADE SOMETHING AWESOME BASED ON WHAT YOU DID? It would be so cool. Obviously directly stealing art or like the content farm stuff, etc etc is bogus. Idk I would feel flattered if someone was inspired by something I made and put into their own creation. 🥰 There’s definitely a difference between the average artists and LIL GRUBBI WEASEL HANDS or constipated always angy/salti boiz
@@iluvmesumgrapesoda9869 Yeah same! I like the idea that my designs might be inspiring someone out there! Last time I checked it was supposed to be a COMPLIMENT!
This was really fun to watch. I've got a lot of artists friends with their own commission horror stories. You seem like you handled yourself fairly well, all things considered.
its hard to be a good artist with all the pressure that people gave when you have some commission. Just try your best, your art stile is unic and I hope you doing great things actually.☺
As an artist myself I have had something similar to this happen to me when I was a younger as well. Unfortunately it does tend to happen a lot to those who are inexperienced simply because they know they are able to manipulate them far easier than those who have been around for some time. Still I'm glad you could make light of it in the video. Keep up the good work.
I was really invested in this video from start to finish. I completely understand going defense mode about something that happened in the past, and something you should just forget about. This is one of those experiences that will stick with you for such a long time. Btw incredible Ms Piggy/Kermit/Foxy ESPECIALLY Foxy looked so cool.
this video is on par with the popular storytime content, you should definitely do more if you have more stories left over! (also, the raccoon is really cute)
AAA that means so much to me, thank you!! And yep, I have more to come! There will be a new 5min one tomorrow and I have another longer recording after that :) (thanks! it's a little character I've been doodling for years, don't remember how I even came up with them but I'm glad I finally put 'em to good use)
Your story gave me flashbacks to my early years as an artist on DeviantArt (also at 14) but I didn't do commissions at the time, thankfully, because the drama was bad enough without it. Like god. I was lucky that I ended up in a semi-reasonable 'clique' of people who didn't go full crazy, but that didn't stop us from having a feud with some other group over some mystery reason - I'm almost certain nobody told me the details beyond 'x account is a wretched troll, go attack!'. I ended up deleting my account out of sheer cringe, but that first time kinda stepping into the internet as an artist is always intense because you don't know exactly what you're supposed to do and so you're super dependent on someone more experienced giving you a bit of guidance, which can work out good or not-so-good depending on who you end up with. Sincerely, thanks for making me remember that. The benefit of hindsight and thinking of how ridiculous that all was made it kind of fun, and I'm glad that the rest of your commission experiences haven't been on That Level.
if that happened to me at 14 i wouldve just said sorry, blocked everyone and never visit that website ever again or create a new profile and then pretend it never happened.
I'm really sorry you had to deal with this. At the end of the day, know it isn't you, it wasn't you. The less you spend thinking about it - the less your brain will remember it. Also a good reminder to me, personally, to look into people's backgrounds 👀
I’m a young artist whose planning to open commissions soon as well, and I’ve been listening to these stories so I can theorize what I would do and what I should be prepared for once Im officially open. Luckily my older friend is an art person so they may be willing to point me in the right direction when things go south
I'm so happy this was on my recommended feed ♥ your art and story was such a treat!! please do keep it up and make more, I think you will be so popular!!
@@wowzadawg3838 OMG I hope it was a pick-me-up rather than a distraction. But seriously I loved this, I love your character, and I look forward to your new vids!! :)
I have done over 80 comms, but so far I haven't experienced something like this, although I have to admit, that it's a fear that lives in the back of my head
From one artist to another, you handled this pretty well. I personally don't do commissions, I just do passion projects (and occasionally sell said passion projects for extortion level prices)
"as intimidating as they were, I wasn't going to send them those 5$"
Imagine extorting someone for 5$
I NEED THEM 5 BUCKAROOS 🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶
@@cabronineedtoseeurballs ☠☠☠
nah this some new low 💀💀
lol
FIVE BONES BABY!!! 👺
“Fine. Draw my cat.” absolutely killed me lmao
Pmao
@@tealisbored Fmao
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When I was 14, I saw a lot of others in my age-group do roleplay-engagements/weddings with their online partners, only to break up less than a month later. Kermit and Piggy were probably 2 other 14-year-olds who had never met in-person; don't feel bad for breaking up the equivalent of a playground wedding.
Don’t know, guy sounds too mature for a 14 year old on the internet
@@marcar9marcar972 most down-to-earth 14 year old ive ever seen
damn Kermit is one big 14-year-old sugar daddy if he’s paying a $10 commission for his E girlfriend
Yeah it was even like that back in 2006 lol
@@marcar9marcar972 it’s called role play, and any 14 year old can sound like ab adult if they word things adequately, plus not adult breaks up over 3 dollar commissions
Man lemme tell ya at 14, you handled that very well, because it couldve been baaaaad. It's a super scary place to take commissions at a young age on the internet.
agreed, im in 9th grade and absolutely shocked at how many young artists can innocently do commissions online, only to find that some of the weirdest people can be reeled towards you and ask for weird things.. i considered doing art comms online at one point, but people like those always steer me far away from that idea.
@@bigmanpounder1229 ive also wanted to make commissions when i was younger but i knew no one wanted me to draw for them LOL
@@cyschan not even your grand mam?
I suppose a good thing is that they don’t know your age, and if it’s anything like people wanting freaky commissions you can put “will only draw safe art” etc
But yeah when it comes to financial related things and kids on the internet, that’s usually a terrible mix.
Also, honestly. Kermit is better off separating from Ms. Piggy. You impacted him in a positive way by making that art.
dont do miss piggy like that :(
very nice
@@burntalphabetsoup6772 press X to disagree.
@@burntalphabetsoup6772 she domestically abuses kermit though???
Seeing nightmare foxy being mad at a 14 year old and accepting a drawing of a cat as an apology was something I needed
LMAO
“YARR MATEY, WHY IN DAVY JONES’ LOCKER DID YE COPY ME ART’S POSES?!”
“im sorry, have a cat drawing pls 😢”
“OKAY.”
LMAO@@ScuttleBugReal
The whole entitled screeching over posting non-commission (or other commission) art is the reason I find queues like trello so helpful. I always make it very clear wherever I'm advertising that your art won't be worked on until you are at the front of the queue and it has been marked. If someone starts screaming and crying when their card hasn't been marked yet, it just becomes a case of "wow this person can't read" lmao
hasn't happened in a long time, but when it does that's usually also a good sign to cancel the commission, because they likely haven't read your TOS either. Or they did read and just think the rules don't apply to them, which is extra yikes.
An artist’s TOS is basically a list of shitty experiences they don’t want to happen again. Nowadays I just give people a guestimate about how long I will take. Then they can decide if that time-frame works with them or not. How I am able to plan my time is up to me.
YO Shout out to Trello, so nice to hear other folks using it fo that purpose! Cheers!
Still people should be patient, they aren't entitled to knowing a person's queue anyway
Trello looks mad pogged didn't think much of it when I saw it collecting virtual dust in robotics but looking at it again it looks so much more betterer
When most artists say you stole cause you were INSPIRED by a pose or the way art looks baffles me so much even if someone made money they're flourishing as a young artist let them freaking LIVE
Even crazier when they accuse you of stealing color pallets or combinations. Like what they're gonna trademark literal colors now?
@@corazon.c how can one trademark a body pose or post type how can one trademark a color they can't that's why they search out young artists to scam with this that's starting out
@@creepy-kitty colors can be trademarked unfortunately, but totally not by random small artists on the internet, so :p they can scream and cry all they want, we live on Earth, not EArth where you put certain colors behind a paywall bcuz you like them.
oh my god that happened to me when i was 13 i was inspired by an artist and tried to learn how certain techniques in their art worked and in response i got the most devastating heartbreaking vaguepost written about me saying i was copying them and it fucked me up for years, the artist in question was 20 then, i wasnt making any money off of this either i was just a kid drawing my and my friends characters
imagine publicly demanding someone give you a cut of their hard-earned 3 dollars
heeelp the extortion part reminded me of my friend who got "called out" by a grown man because her fursona happened to be...another black lion. the designs looked nothing alike. they weren't even the same shade. we were high schoolers.
Probably had “original character, donut steel” in the character’s bio. And ye I think most people in any sort of fandoms have felt that :,D
Mother always warned me to steer clear of the foxy avatars.
So many unkempt demons in those profile pics.
Didnt expect to see you here.
Almost thought this was gonna be about you drawing rule 34 of Miss Piggy lol
Me too
Me three.
WTF?
I was expecting some weird fetish stuff, but thankfully it was just...this.
I didn't realize I was watching a video from a small channel, it was very well drawn and amazing editing!
I also didn't notice that!
This is a very well put together video. Good job. :)
it's always the small channels that make the great content
Something similar to the Foxy situation happened to me a couple of years back, another artist in a fandom I was in accused me of copying their pose (it was also a super basic pose, drawing raccoon, I feel your pain) so the "I hope Foxy's getting royalties everytime someone uses their copyrighted poses" legitimately made me laugh, thank you.
I had a similar issue some years back. Did some personal art with a Pose I really liked only for someone that saw it to also know the source image i got the Pose from. only for them to try and Imply that I had somehow stolen something by using a Pose. As I had never had a problem like this before it really got me into a Panic and I actually DM'd the original artist to apologize over it. I believe their response was just "Ok".
@@SorenKisamora It feels terrible to be accused of something you’re clueless about, especially when it’s a crime. Feels like the world is crashing down on you, and it’s even worse when you’re young. I remember freaking out over getting a copyright strike on a CZcams years ago, thinking I was going to be charged xD
Also, your profile picture is cute, is it one of your drawings?
@@coldresin It's a couple years old but yes she is. Glad you like the Image :)
As a 34 year old artist I've learned over time that fandoms have plenty of people like "Miss Piggy" though I've found avoiding them is easy --- the fact that this one had any money was what surprised me XD
It’s funny how the 14 year old was the most grown up in this situation. But also wouldn’t doubt if they’re were all 14 at the end of the day.
Part 5 happened to me, not literally but... I made a Splatoon adopt once, a person asked to buy it, and when they had to send the money over... They just said "no I'm not buying, this character looks exactly like this one". The only thing in common was the species and a star in their shirt. I was so confused I asked the OC creator about my adopt was supposed to look like, and they were as confused as me. DeviantArt is definitely something.
Agreed
2:37 NOW DRAW HER TELEPORTING BREAD
If only they had asked me to draw her buying wonder bread…..
NOW DRAW HER GETTING AN EDUCATION
NOW DRAW HER WORKING AT MCDONALD’S
DRAW HER BEING HAPPY
Oh my goodness chill you guys! 😂
i like the little raccoon arm animation im dying over it lmao
I love the characters you chose for protecting the identities and the way you did all the edits and art, 10/10 would watch again
God i love your little raccoon, your voice is so nice too ! I hope you keep making videos cause this one was Lots of fun :0)
Thank you so much, I’m so happy to hear that!! :D I was genuinely so insecure about my voice during my first recordings but I’m getting slowly used to it. It feels nice to tackle new mediums and defeat insecurities while I’m at it!
And I definitely have more planned. I’ve even started working on a few already ;D
@@wowzadawg3838i agree, your voice is soothing!
Man I wish my parents let me have social media as a kid cause I wanted to do comms for a years. But I'm lowkey glad I got to hear these nightmare stories before I decided how to go about doing it as an adult.
Your parents were right
@@12Tecpatl well the thing is it didn't stop me. I just couldn't take commissions. I was gonna have one either way. I just wished they were more supportive so we could have found a good safe way to go about things rather than all the stress that came my way
its good that you didnt have social media as a kid
@@actualblack I did have social media. I had to be hella secretive though. I didn't post nsfw or anything I just wish I could have shared my pride in my work with my folks.
The part where you explained why you couldn't pay the fox guy and how much love your dad really melted my heart.
Reminds me of my commission as an tween where a grown ass adult commissioned me to draw a chibi character kneeling down in a cute pastel outfit… farting out a green cloud
Yeah I asked my then (still now) boyfriend, he laughed and instantly told me my commissioner had a fart fetish and bf was right on the money.
Still now?! Awwww!
That feels so surreal- Like a story...
I honestly feel bad for you, that must suck to meet such weird people.
The internet is full of it sadly, and we can hardly change it-
"You can't make this shit up"
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This all honestly seems like some sort of setup scam between a group of people.
Possible, though I feel like they wouldn't have caved at 'fine. draw my cat' and instead kept on pushing for a refund of some sort.
Mr Kermit's such a nice guy, we need more people like him in the world
also, I love your style of videos, especially your lil racoon character, it's nice and simple for a style like this
LMAO, I snorted at the crying/apologizing bit
Amazing video, 11/10 would recommend 😌👏
You handled this situation way better than I would've at 14. I was always worried about accidentally drawing a character that looked identical to someone else's, so ending up in someone's post about art theft? That would have been my worst nightmare. Great video! I'm shocked you dont have more subscribers.
I like the idea of drawing peoples profile icons to represent them in an anonymous way like you did with Foxy.
This is great because it goes to show you. Before you go to attack an artist or jump on a bandwagon, you need to understand the whole picture
Subbed: This is one of the problems of doing fandom art, especially with OCs. Typically those OCs have relationships, or had relationships, with other OCs. So in the customer's eyes, the commission isn't just "Oh I want the world to see my OC and their friends and the cool stuff they do;" you're literally providing the narrative for their OCs story. And that can become a sticky situation very, very fast if that customer, and by proxy that OC, hasn't been the best person to others in the fandom.
Sounds like you handled it the best you could have, especially for being 14! I still can't imagine being 14 and having some mafia-like conspiracy you feel the need to hide from your dad. He probably would've been like, "Uh no, you're not paying [Foxy] one red cent, they're being a bully."
I now know to check the commissioner before hand cause you can never know how’d they turn up once you start working with them.
Usually my worst commissioners are “Gonna commission you to draw this for my friend” Cause they get SUPER PICKY and demanding. Which means i have to banish them to the shadow realm after it’s all well and done.
Here’s a couple of them:
-I had a commissioner demanding me to livestream the progress of the commission. I was super nervous and told them it makes me uncomfortable but they didn’t listen
-A commissioner told me to finish a commission under an hour due to a event happened on their end and started to curse at me
-A commissioner threaten to take their money back if i wasn’t solely working on theirs… dude my dad had a car accident I was frazzled couldn’t focus on the computer 24/7. This was all for $15 btw
-Creepy commissioners that sent me ‘I know you saw my message’
So here’s a pro tip to young commissioners out there.
1. If your client / commissioner is being a asshole to you. INSTANT refund them. Please don’t tolerate their ill behavior and keep your mental state at ease knowing you won’t be stressing out working for them
2. Make a ToS ( Term and services ) So when a client try to back you to a corner you can slap a ‘Did you read my ToS?’ If they said no which means they didn’t agree to it and you can’t get in trouble for it.
3. Your time is valuable! Not only charge them for your art but for your time as well. Cause damn art takes awhile to draw haha
When people commission for art do they usually know what the time limit it is to create it?
I’m also curious what you put in a ToS for something like that 🤔 I’m and artist and I’m selling my own pieces but I want to commission as well… Do they usually pay before and then you make it?
I get worried that the customer won’t like the outcome. I guess that’s probably why the commission has examples? But I think sometimes there isn’t always an example 🤔
Sorry for the paragraph but I’m curious! 😅
I’m absolutely in love with all the random characters used as stand ins- when Batman showed up, I started laughing out loud haH
Great vid, I really enjoyed it
Just to make it clear, there's no such thing as "pose theft" or "composition theft". It requires alot of skill to replicate a pose with different characters and designs. So it's safe to say that Foxxy here threatened a 14 yo kid with baseless accusation. This is the kind of thing that pisses me off to see as a working artist.
Plot Twist:
Kermit is secretly Batman, and when he saw his own wife, Mrs. Piggy, telling Wowza to copy his own art, he felt mortified…
(Also, no wonder why Kermit is so rich. He’s literally Batman)
I love your voice so much!!!
This video feels like something I'd see from a really big storytime youtuber, you deserve so many more followers!
^^
Fellow artist here. Really felt this video, had very similar experiences when I was doing art in fandom. I know that feeling of "what if this very specific and random thing happens AGAIN" that you described. Thanks for making the video.
Seriously Wowza, super entertaining! xD I loved all the characters you used and the fucking Kermit in the white jacket lmao.
You should do more of these. I love it!
Thank you so much!! And I'll definitely make more, you can count on that ;D
Love the way you drew ms. Piggy, she clearly is slayin here
The internet is seriously something else 💀💀, in my own experiences thankfully I haven't experienced full-blown theft yet (knock on wood), however I did have some random throw-away account blatantly ask me if I would draw them pr0n.... I was 15 - 16 at the time, WITH MY AGE DISPLAYED IN MY BIO :)
The only response I could muster was the reaction image of Jesus peeking around the corner saying "No."
Absolutely chad response
Thank you for opening a window to the drama of oc fanart commissions
Your storytelling is hysterical. The visuals and the characters used just really take the cake. 10/10
Why is this so professional yet so underrated
that foxy design is- ✨✨
Literally perfect! This video is a fun watch and I can't believe you don't have more subscribers considering the video's quality,
I can't wait too see how you progress in your art + youtube journey!
Poor Batman, that must have been an awful surprise after a logn day of crime fighting
Framing this all with muppets characters made it so much more hilarious than it probably should've been
I understand the feeling of trying to do something nice and accidentally getting into situations with horrible people because of it, their words(and actions) haunting you every night when trying to sleep
Oh my freaking god... you were just a 14 years old teenager when you experienced this.
I had a similar problem with a couple of clients like a year ago, I was 21 back then and I was in a freaking mental breakdown while trying to deal with them; I dont wanna imagine the level of anxiety you had to go through. ;w;
I'll say it, fuck that "Foxy" guy, what the heck do they think its gonna happen if they start yelling at anyone they find on the internet, that's just not okay. (Also, considering that the whole issue of "THAT'S A POSE FROM MY DRAWING, YOU NEED TO PAY ME" its pretty ridiculous, they definetely needed to chill a bit...)
I'm really sorry you had to go through this crap when you were younger, MY GOD. ;w;
This is why I draw but don't consider my self part of the art community.
Sure there's a lot of nice people but there's also alot of crazy ones that take simple shit way too seriously.
yeah it’s hard to find art friends and it sucks to tip toe about copyright… or when they find a “problem” in your art and blow it out of proportion. There’s also the art “critics” 😂 they have no problem telling you what is art and what isn’t…
I love how you tell your stories, it's very fun to watch and listen to
Idk why the hell this shit is getting views but if i reach 200sub(way sandwiche)s, I will return to youtube lol
Update: Well fuck.
Better return lmao jkjk, only if u want, luv ur content ^^
@@SpArkyTheDerg Yeah I literally just checked my sub count for the lols and went “oh no oh fuck now i actually gotta resurrect this dead channel 😭” But fr, that is the plan, just gotta finish some stuff first. Stupid fuckin university and work getting in the way, the absolute audacity… Well anyway, see y’all in -an undisclosed amount of time- ✌️
I'm always terrified to post art while working on a commission simultaneously for that reason, even though I really have no reason to, especially if I'm taking on other commissions.
You need waaaaaaaay more subscribers! Great videos and super cute raccoon avatar! :)
Thank you so much!! :) Maybe if I was actually consistent at posting pfff but I aint a full time youtuber, so everyday life gets in the way. Hope to post more stuff someday soon tho
@@wowzadawg3838 Don’t push yourself too much! We all (I’m speaking for the majority of us because well… why would we be here if otherwise?) enjoy and respect your videos, but that doesn’t mean you should overwork yourself just because of your channel. (Sorry if this is paranoid or a very late comment, but I just wanted to say this because no one is forcing you to keep on posting these if it can get in the way of your life ;D)
When I was 9 I was on a smaller drawing forum that was very intimate, everyone knew everyone. I made some really good friends there, some of them I am still in contact with today 20 years later. a few of the people I befriended were in their late teens, but I just felt cool for having these older kids' support. But one of these older people I befriended suddenly decided that I had stolen her character because my character was a designer and so was her's. Her boyfriend contacted me and told me to change my character and threatened me to get me thrown off the forum for stealing. It was so traumatic lmao. Anyway, that guy ended up getting a spot at the same art college as me over a decade later. We were even in the same year. He didn't know I was the 9 year old he once harassed because of an OC's occupation. I never told him.
This part made me chuckle 7:00 . I get that you were 14, never knew Foxy or Nightmare Foxy on someone’s profile picture could make them more intimidating.
Art drama is really stupid, people get butthurt over nothing
I need more Wowza Dad in my life. I love his lil mullet
Batman sitting on his frilly pink room is sending me
The way you animate is so cute and a good way to recognize the artist, my fav par was when lil raccoon started drawing, caught me off guard but it was so cute and cartoonish that I love it a lot, I will never forget it
The screeching when you draw your own characters thing is something I can hard relate to, and why I hate doing commissions, because you don't know who might be that person who blows up your dms because you dared post a picture you made of characters doing something and not a picture of their oc as if you are required to do so. Those experiences are scary everytime.
I feel very bad that you got yelled at when you were 14 by someone random on the internet
BUT
the way you animated you crying was so cute and my heart hurt
The number of people who get wrongfully called out by bigger artists for "stealing art" or stealing their "awesome oc design" on deviant and other places makes my blood boil. Half of the time, these cases can be boiled down as kids taking a bit too much inspiration from a single source because they still dont have the maturity to come up with a trully original design or straight up....JUST someone taking inspiration from your work. To every artist in here: If there is similarities between your work and someone elses, IT DOESNT NECESSARILLY MEAN ITS STEALING OR PLAGIARISM! Colour and pose "theft" is not a thing and you shouldnt feel pressured to change a design for small factors or colour palets!
yeah, i had a friend who accused me of stealing a character i made because she said it "looked too similar" but the only thing that was even remotely similar was that they has a half and half color pattern on their design. like huh? you cant own a pattern.
we aint friends anymore but yeah
@@MarsMakes Yep, some artists really out there thinking they own everything.
It’s fun to be inspired by other people’s work- like WHAT IF SOMEONE MADE SOMETHING AWESOME BASED ON WHAT YOU DID? It would be so cool. Obviously directly stealing art or like the content farm stuff, etc etc is bogus.
Idk I would feel flattered if someone was inspired by something I made and put into their own creation. 🥰 There’s definitely a difference between the average artists and LIL GRUBBI WEASEL HANDS or constipated always angy/salti boiz
@@iluvmesumgrapesoda9869 Yeah same! I like the idea that my designs might be inspiring someone out there! Last time I checked it was supposed to be a COMPLIMENT!
That was a good story! Art drama is really weird but you Handled that better than most adults do at the age of 14 tbh.
When it comes to the heartbreak segment. Don't stress. It sounds like you helped him dodge a bullet.
This was really fun to watch. I've got a lot of artists friends with their own commission horror stories. You seem like you handled yourself fairly well, all things considered.
you story literally made me feel sad, now i want to hug a 14 year old crying raccoon
“FiNe DrAw My CaT 😤😤”
😭✋
its hard to be a good artist with all the pressure that people gave when you have some commission. Just try your best, your art stile is unic and I hope you doing great things actually.☺
If you aren't ready then don't play with people's money wait till you are confident in your ability. Easy?
As a commissioner this is a horror story I always try to make commissions as clear and if anything even happens I contemplate deactivating irl
your little racoon persona thing is so cute and increases my enjoyment 10x while watching
i think every artist out there has a story like this to tell
lol
Poses aren't copyrighted.
Wasn’t expecting to see ya here lol
As an artist myself I have had something similar to this happen to me when I was a younger as well. Unfortunately it does tend to happen a lot to those who are inexperienced simply because they know they are able to manipulate them far easier than those who have been around for some time. Still I'm glad you could make light of it in the video. Keep up the good work.
I was really invested in this video from start to finish.
I completely understand going defense mode about something that happened in the past, and something you should just forget about. This is one of those experiences that will stick with you for such a long time.
Btw incredible Ms Piggy/Kermit/Foxy ESPECIALLY Foxy looked so cool.
The kermit and ms piggy art was so beautiful i cried, and the cat was beautiful
This should be a mandatory video for all commissioners fr
Great video!
Batman's Batcave got a real thorough makeover since I last saw it goddamn
“Fine, draw my cat.”
this video is on par with the popular storytime content, you should definitely do more if you have more stories left over!
(also, the raccoon is really cute)
AAA that means so much to me, thank you!! And yep, I have more to come! There will be a new 5min one tomorrow and I have another longer recording after that :)
(thanks! it's a little character I've been doodling for years, don't remember how I even came up with them but I'm glad I finally put 'em to good use)
@@wowzadawg3838 woo! cant wait! 😆 and i’m glad the character got put to good use
Your story gave me flashbacks to my early years as an artist on DeviantArt (also at 14) but I didn't do commissions at the time, thankfully, because the drama was bad enough without it. Like god. I was lucky that I ended up in a semi-reasonable 'clique' of people who didn't go full crazy, but that didn't stop us from having a feud with some other group over some mystery reason - I'm almost certain nobody told me the details beyond 'x account is a wretched troll, go attack!'.
I ended up deleting my account out of sheer cringe, but that first time kinda stepping into the internet as an artist is always intense because you don't know exactly what you're supposed to do and so you're super dependent on someone more experienced giving you a bit of guidance, which can work out good or not-so-good depending on who you end up with.
Sincerely, thanks for making me remember that. The benefit of hindsight and thinking of how ridiculous that all was made it kind of fun, and I'm glad that the rest of your commission experiences haven't been on That Level.
Batman was so angry but really sympathetic
Love this, your art, and you!
if that happened to me at 14 i wouldve just said sorry, blocked everyone and never visit that website ever again or create a new profile and then pretend it never happened.
6:04 W Kermit, He's a Chad
Ngl your depictions of the muppets makes me want to commission you??? To draw muppets but punk???? I want to see this very bad
Holly shit now I really really REALLY want to draw muppets but punk yesssssssssssss
Commissioners need to take a chill pill!
the intro is what i sleep while listening for i love C418
I'm really sorry you had to deal with this. At the end of the day, know it isn't you, it wasn't you. The less you spend thinking about it - the less your brain will remember it.
Also a good reminder to me, personally, to look into people's backgrounds 👀
I’m a young artist whose planning to open commissions soon as well, and I’ve been listening to these stories so I can theorize what I would do and what I should be prepared for once Im officially open. Luckily my older friend is an art person so they may be willing to point me in the right direction when things go south
I'm so happy this was on my recommended feed ♥ your art and story was such a treat!! please do keep it up and make more, I think you will be so popular!!
Thank you so much, that really means a lot!! :,D Yes, I will. I just didnt expect to randomly get promoted in the same time as all my deadlines hahaha
@@wowzadawg3838 OMG I hope it was a pick-me-up rather than a distraction. But seriously I loved this, I love your character, and I look forward to your new vids!! :)
As a "victim" of wonder bread commissions years ago, I felt this one
THE WONDERBREAD GUY COMMISSIONED YOU?
This video feels like watching an entire soap opera in like 12 and a half minutes
I like the visual of batman having a laptop with a picture of him just on the back of it
A lot of people have added a lot of coherent thoughts and here I am left with just admiring how cute the raccoon representation of yourself is.
I have done over 80 comms, but so far I haven't experienced something like this, although I have to admit, that it's a fear that lives in the back of my head
Gosh what a story, I would’ve been stressed too! 😭
Great video yo!
This entire situation sounds absolutely awful. I'm so sorry you had to go through that.
From one artist to another, you handled this pretty well. I personally don't do commissions, I just do passion projects (and occasionally sell said passion projects for extortion level prices)
14 and already wrecking people's lives. Bruh, epic.