How to tie a Full Body Hasty Harness for Training or Rescue
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- čas přidán 21. 12. 2011
- The Full Body Hasty Harness has applications in both training and rescue environments. In Training, it can be used with a Belay Line to establish Fall Arrest Protection to safeguard students practicing emergency bailout procedures. In a Rescue situation, the Harness can be used in conjunction with an Escape System to extract a civilian or firefighter out a window or off a roof.
Understand that this video shows only TWO of the MANY variations for tying a Hasty Harness and neither one of the methods shown may work for YOU.......
Webbing has many deployment options, but it's important to note that it's not ideal for every situation. The user must know when to deploy it and when not to based on the circumstances. Like any other technique or piece of equipment - Firefighters should always gravitate to the easiest method. In the environment that we operate in; Simplicity, speed and efficiency can be the keys to your Safety and Survival.
Train, Stay Prepared, Be Aggressive, Make the Save - SURVIVE!
Dale G. Pekel
Thanks for your time spent making these valuable training videos! They're being used as references in Alaska firefighting.
you are my hero and virtual coach. thanks a lots from chile....
thanks for that great video! The second harness is really easy to remember, i will definetly try this one out! I am not a firefighter but i climber / geocacher, it might help me some day anyway.
very useful exactly what i was looking for .. thanks a lot!
This is a keeper video. Just finished putting together a good home emergency escape setup.
Could you please share the link?
Thanks so much
@@Balsero-qb9gv Hi it's my own personal kit so there is no link I'm sorry
Subscribed to your Channel. Some really great info, to the point and thought out.
What I love about both of these is it seems like the SCBA wouldn’t obstruct their applications.
Love both of these methods! The first harness looks more secure having additional webbing crossing over the torso. Could this harness also be used for an unconscious victim in the vertical orientation by simply adjusting the fit by twisting the carabiner behind the neck instead of at the waist and then use the top carabiner as the attachment point for your rescue?
VERY NICE EXCELLENT WORKING
Dang Dale! That is, not was an awesome rig! Very cool!
Hi! Your videos are very popular in russian firefighting service. Do you know about it? Good luck and thanks a lot!
Thank you for the kind words my Brother from Russia!
Nice.
In my humble opinion, I think the square knot is better since it can be easily undone after rescue and the webbing can be reused. Isn't it?
Terrific video by the way!
The square knot would be a correct choice if you are using rope. The webbing "loop", should be pre-tied as a "loop"! Therefore your idea is sound, it just does not work well with 1" tubular webbing. Also it should be mentioned that this rescue loop can be used in a non-vertical rescue environment, to drag a very large civilian or downed FF out. The goal needs to be simple and stupid. You should be able to perform this drill completely blindfolded. But is your life, do what you want....
Peace from the CFD
It's a nice idea but if I need to get out in an emergency, I'm triple looping the rescue rope onto my carabinier on my bunker pants and going out the window.
My question was addressing the first harness technique. Is it safe to slip the two loops cris-crossing over your head and rest them on your shoulders? Appreaciate your reply. Thanks.
This method used by Mason on Chicago Fire in his 1st appearance on show.
Instead of clipping the caribiner the two loops on the back, it is safe to slip the two loops cris-cross over you head and rest them on your shoulders? Then you don't have to use caribiner. Thanks for the video.
@ckubik04 I agree, looking for that one again too...
That step stool has broken legs and ankles for sure.
What happened to the integrated bunker harness video you posted? Can you repost please?
Познавательно, а что за лента.
Hi, thanks for this video. What other knot is ideal for flat webbing. I've seen another video assessing a fatal incident where the Water Knot got snagged and untied on its own.
What are not works just as well with flat webbing as it does with tubular webbing. The tales of the night will shorten over time with use the key with webbing is that the tails coming out of the knot should be the width of your palm or three to four inches long. If they start to shorten less than that the knot should be retired and then I always cinch it down tightly afterwards to help seat the knot and reduce the likelihood of it loosening
@@DALEGPEKEL Thanks for the quick reply. I never expected you to reply since this is an old video. I find your videos very interesting even if I'm not a first responder. Subscribed. Cheers!
Click on the following link for a FASTER and more EFFICIENT way to tie a full body hasty harness onto an UNCONSCIOUS Civilian or Firefighter - A Personal Escape System can than be used to extract the victim out a window when a ladder is not available: czcams.com/video/G6tjL28HKaU/video.html
Does it matter which way you go with the arm twists or just twist it?
No works either way, just try to keep the water knot in the center of the victim and webbings are even. This needs to be Practiced under CONTROLLED conditions!!
How long should the webbing be so that everthing shown in this video works fine?
20 feet before being tied - See this video: czcams.com/video/s6HUWt25LQU/video.html
Just wondering about how much webbing you used to make this harness. 20ft or so??
9 to 10 feet.
With harness option #1, is it not possible to hook to the carabiner in the back?
Great video btw
Yes you could, but this variation is intended to hook up in the front at waist level. The second variation is designed to hook up behind the head.
Thanks so much for your video.
I need your help please!
How to tie off to the middle of a 40 foot flag pole where this is no tie?
Hello John - Not sure what you're asking - What are you looking to tie off that is 20 feet off the ground at the middle of a 40 foot flag pole?
@@DALEGPEKEL thank you so much I can not find a knot that would stay on a aluminum pole.
I work for the railroad and we have To go up on Aluminum Poles that have flashing lights
So
We take the extension ladder off the truck and put the Straight Rung against a Round pole.
We climb up and fix the bell and lights
I love the Rope Full body harness you made!!!
I have a full body harness for 300 plus lbs I am 280. But I don’t carry it all the time because the job I took we are not suppose to climb anymore. Seniority over other workers.
But if they are scared or are fearful of climbing I will do it.
My harness helps a lot in other situations
BUT when I wrap the rope around the pole it slides down up or up if I use my hands and move it up.
So I put it up high as possible to hopefully slow me down if I fall.
What or how do you tie the knot that was holding then harness together. Waterman’s knot I think you said.
@@johnbarragan921 Have you seen these - You can attach them to the top beams of a ladder and the bracket allows the ladder to "craddle" round poles instead of the top rung sliding on the pole. www.industrialsafetyproducts.com/werner-71-1-padded-fixed-v-rung/?gclid=CjwKCAiAjPyfBhBMEiwAB2CCIji1gXljymIEJhAmD8tyY2zeCXbp9uUtcKI99nGI71jEKjb_fqpNBxoCPZwQAvD_BwE
@@DALEGPEKEL that is cool will help tie off the ladder
Thank you so much for the information
Will let you know how it works in couple weeks
Is it possible to use rope instead of webbing?
Sure - It's just that webbing is a little more comfortable when loaded since it's flat versus rope being round
I have a question I am a firefighter and I am 5’4 I currently have a 24ft long webbing and it is just to long for a harness how long do you think I need this webbing to be
We use 9 foot loops which are made from a 20 foot length of 1" tubular webbing. A 9 foot loop fits most - However when we use webbing strictly for belaying, than we use 12 foot loops which provides extra webbing tails making it easier for students to connect and disconnect their own belay line.
@@DALEGPEKEL thank you so much
Suspension trauma might be worth mentioning in this video? People practicing this at home could in worst case scenario die in a mater of minutes..... Ok,that's a bit unusual but please take care not to hang in the harness to long or get stuck somehow and not have help nearby. Basically if you starting to feel dizzy get down ASAP.
Fair point. I assume that the instructional videos were geared towards experienced individuals, specifically those in emergency services. That being said, it would only take a few seconds to do so...
Yes, suspension trauma is an issue........ the other point worth mentioning is the endless sling (strop) used in this demonstration is approximately 25 to 30 mm wide.
The leg straps in a normal safety harness take the full weight of a suspended person. Those leg straps are normally around 50 mm wide. This width helps to reduce the likelihood of damaging the blood vessels in the upper leg.... within reason.
The narrower width of the strop will act like a tourniquet and could cause permanent damage to the blood vessels in the upper legs. You'd want to have a suspended person out of that harness very quickly......... like 2 to 3 minutes at the most.
Edit.Applying pressure over a wider width is less likely to cause severe damage to the blood vessels..... which could result in the limbs being amputated.
It is the same as the reason why First Aid moved toward using a 50 to 75 mm ( 2 to 3 inch) compression bandage on a limb instead of a tourniquet.
I am wondering why can't you cross those two loops over your head, one crossing to left shoulder and other to the right shoulder, forming cris-cross in front, so that you wouldn't have to use a caribiner to tie behind your head. This would free up one caribiner. I tried it, and looks like it works. Give it a try and see if make sense. Thanks for the video.
What is the most comfortable size webbing to use for full, waist and chest harnesses - 1 inch, 1.5 inch or 2 inch?
2" is going to be more comfortable as it has a greater service area spread over the contact points on your body - So it creates less pressure, but for ease of storing and carrying 1" tubular is fine - I've worn and used both a fully body and seat harness made from 1" tubular webbing and had no major discomfort issues. Now with that said it's not going to be as nearly as comfortable when compared to a commercially made harness that has waist, thigh and shoulder padding
@@DALEGPEKEL Cheers buddy. Video was very helpful and practical. Thank for for the feedback.
@@DALEGPEKEL how much feet of harness needed to cover all types of harnesses? Just got my 30 feet of webbing and need to know how to cut it.
@@us24575 we use 20 ft for our rescue and utility weebing on my career and volunteer departments - However we make our webbing loops from a 25-ft length of webbing in our training classes when using the webbing to create a full body harness. The extra length makes it easier for students to disconnect themselves from a belay line. In the field 20 ft has worked for all our applications
How long was your webbing
It was a 20ft piece of webbing tied in a Water-knot giving you two 10ft sides to work with.
how long should the webbing be for these harnesses?
We make our loops from a 20 foot length of 1 inch tubular webbing - Tied with a water knot (that has 3-4 inch tails) you should end up with a loop just over 9 feet long. czcams.com/video/s6HUWt25LQU/video.html
@@DALEGPEKEL thank you!
Not sure that step stool is NFPA approved. Lol.
Awesome video but that uitility step stool really looks wonky!
Sound is not the best.
Did anyone else laugh when he did the second harness on the dummy and dropped his leg after the loop when around? Haha (not judging, don't take it the wrong way... I know it probably would be fine).
Love the video, but a "lace" knot? You could have even said reef knot, and I wouldn't have been offended.
God I can't stand it
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