so many were taught from birth to behave that way, though. men really had no rules or standards they were required to adhere to regarding their wives or mistresses. some were compassionate and reasonable, and some were complete buttheads. but, they basically could do what they wanted with no judgement or consequences, and women had to tiptoe a straight line on eggshells. the church made divorce pretty much impossible, so it was really dangerous if he fell out of love or met someone else. and if he died, women couldn't own property. everything went to the male closest in kin and it was up to him what happened to her. if brother/uncle/cousin allowed her to stay in her own home, he was considered extremely charitable. if he let her live in HIS household, that was more common, so he could remind her and the kids every day that they'd be on the street without him. men were God. last word. absolute authority.
Truth. Even today if that’s what you want and are making an informed decision, not being pressured etc. A woman I know from college, got her degree, and married a doctor. She told me she wanted a degree ‘just in case’ but what she really wanted from her life was to be a wife and stay at home mother so that’s what she did and they are still very happy.
I was born in 65, my wife in 71. We met in 1990 and have been together ever since, we have 2 daughters and 6 grandchildren, 3 boys and 3 girls. We hit a bump here and there, but (we've talked about this) we wouldn't change a single thing as these past 34yrs have been absolutely amazing! Marriage does work, but it has to be with the right person, you both have to put everything, including your soul into ital and, Communication is absolutely paramount 😊
Nice comment but things were that way 40 years ago….and they have gotten sooooo much better. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 unwed mothers pooping out babies and men who don’t take responsibility. Free sex is good until a baby is involved. Unfortunately the men seem to like the free sex part, but whether it’s access to abortion and birth control they don’t want to take the blame.
None of the men that I had relationships with ever believed that marriage was the best way to go. They were more interested in what I could do for them than what they could do for me.
It was the same way back then. Marriages were VERY beneficial for the most men, they didn't marry because they all somehow believed in a pure internal love. To be married meant an excess to free sex and having a free domestic server. I don't say people didn't fall in love and marry for that reason. I'm not a cynic, who doesn't believe in love and friendship, but clearly not every marriage back then was made in heaven. If you speak to older women today, you hear many horrific stories about life long emotional neglect, dead dreams and wasted lives.
Ever see father Mike Schmitz on marriage? He has a wonderful story about his childhood and a plaque of women taken from a mens rib: not from the head as to gouvern over ,not from the feet as to walk over , but from the side as to stand NXT to , close to the ❤ as to be loved by ,under the arm as to be guarded
SOOOO, when was this made? I did enjoy hearing these perspectives and would really like to hear about love and marriage from the 80s to now. As I sit here in my 50s, single and few to no prospects of a relationship, it seems that most of my peers are very cut off and disillusioned with any kind of relationship.
They don't really make any shows like this anymore! Obviously as with most history docs on YT, they were made many years ago. But I do agree I'd love to see a show about how different it is now compared to when I started dating in the mid 90's. It was better back then! I don't know what went wrong but things have gone right the hell downhill! Obviously, the internet and dreaded online dating has had some part in it. But also many people are not being raised with the idea of marriage and kids being the norm anymore. Which is ok but it should also be discussed that marriage still has value. Everyone being alone and jumping from one crappy relationship to another is what has come out of it. Most men don't think they ever have to get married or even have a serious relationship and that is almost celebrated. Same with women but to a lesser degree. We can't screw around into our late 40's or 50's and just marry a much younger guy and have a family like men can. It sucks! These women haven't received untold number of dic pics or had men think that they can expect to have sex with you after saying a few words to you online or had one conversation in a bar. Most women do not want to be treated like hookers! If they want it that fast with no effort, then they need to contact prostitutes just like other generations did! These people even would be shocked. My mother and grandmother certainly never experienced a fraction of the shit I have. They would just have no understanding if I tried to explain it. They couldn't fathom men acting like that or having that nerve and expectation.
@@marniekilbourne608 it all started with Political Correctness. Think about it... it wad sooo subtle in the way it got people to change their way of thinking, and society has grown into what it is today
@@roberttanguay8532It started when women got rights and didn't need their husband to get a credit card. We don't need to be married to be valued anymore.
This is all great if it’s what you want. The wonderful thing that feminism gave women was the right to choose what kind of life a person wants. Not only for women but for men as well.
These shows were often made years ago! Just because they just posted it doesn't mean that it was made recently! That is the case with so many history documentaries that make their way onto CZcams! Hell, the History Channel itself hasn't shown shows about history in 20 years! You all think you are so clever but you can't tell this was not made recently?! No sign of HD at all. SMH
Richard for the win! Bless him for just being a decent human being first and foremost. He also has a lovely voice - I could listen to him speak for hours. And Rosie! She's one of my personal heroes...
Fascinating as I grew up when all this was happening. Interestingly enough both of my parents worked , my brother and I were latchkey kids before it was normal. Fast forward to the mid seventies I couldn’t date a guy for more than a month afore me da wanted me to marry them…fortunately me mum would have none of it and encouraged me to be an independent working gal before marriage, the tug of war made me crazy. But of course my mom had problems with premarital sex too, which was just not happening. The whole time was so confusing. I think the mixed messages of the time led to many unfortunate marriages….. I do need to add that my parents were married for nearly sixty years….
I find it ironic that the people who wore orange thought they were escaping a societal prison. Yet they committed themselves to bondage of a different kind. It doesn’t sound like it was a life sentence for these two thank goodness.
All these people who seem to have the awareness to realize the timeline is off but not to realize that a hundred other people have already posted comments about it already..
I was Virgin till Marriage. Got married at 22 and engaged at 19 and divorced at 30 and children at 25 and 27. Probably young now a days but I think it was fine
My high school girlfriend wanted badly to have sex, but I painfully resisted the urge. Back then sex meant you had to get married. She would say things like, "It's probably ok since we're going to get married anyway." But, I never mentioned marriage, and I knew I didn’t want to marry her. I knew the kind of girl I wanted to marry, and it wasn't her. She was beautiful and kind but also boring and not very learned. We went up just to the edge, and we did everything but go "all the way." We both still made sure the other was quite satisfied. (We learned a lot from a couple of p*rno movies.) On my second day at college I met THE girl, and I instantly fell in love, i.e., ZERO HESITATION. God, it was glorious. I called my girlfriend and said, "Farewell." She later married a childhood friend of mine, I married my wife, and everything turned out ok.
Well, that's nice for you. I had a similar love at first sight the summer before I started college. We were together for 7 years and planned on marriage but I realized over time he was an alcoholic and he wasn't truly interested in me trying to help him with it. A binge drinker not a daily drinker. So, that crashed and burned big time eventually. I'd dated a decent number of guys before him and I was happy to not date anyone else. He hadn't dated as much because he'd had a long time high school girlfriend but he was certainly far more experienced with sex than I was so it evened out things I guess. We were both head over heals immediately and there was no question that we would start dating and soon no question that we would get married. Good thing I told him we should just wait to be officially engaged until after we graduated college. I was not getting married at 19/20 and my parents would not have been thrilled by any means. This was the late 90's so people didn't usually get married that young then though a few of my friends did.
@@marniekilbourne608 What is it called when someone drinks heavily for three days, gets sick for two or three days, and then the cycles begins again? Is that binge drinking? A dear friend of mine drank himself to death like that.
@@cosmicmoon2012 As intriguing as that sounds it wasn't the case. My old friend William is just a really nice guy. She is lucky to have him, and he is lucky to have her.
….You determined her worth based on her wanting to sleep w you out of love since in her mind/ heart you two were going to marry. You should have just broken up w her. “The type of girl I wanted & it wasn’t her” how debasing. She was your gf- you strung her along until someone to your “standards “ showed up. When women do that kinda thing they get named called. Your gf deserved better than a man like you anyways
Hi, I haven't seen the video yet, but I find it confusing that there's the mention of 1960' but the title says something about the last 40 years. I mean, as a millenil, I too feel like it's barely the early 2000', but objectively it's not, and it's already been 60 years from the sixties 😂
It went from people getting married and having families in their early 20s to: women committing to no one and nothing without having to give up sex or intimacy while most men go years without even so much as a hug.
i don't know who was the first to decide purity until marriage was necessary/required, but I'm thinking maybe it was a good idea for the stability of the marriage. if there's nothing to compare it to, it's automatically the best you've ever had, right? and there's no insecurities from the partner, about being inexperienced or not as "good" as the former partners. AND there'll NEVER be an ex pop up confuse everyone's feelings. but, then, there's the off chance that you suddenly discover you're not even attracted in that way to the person you've just married 😮 i guess that's what all the kissing and cuddling is for, though.
Obviously lots of things have changed for the better since the 1960’s but has the whole courtship/dating/marriage scene gotten better? I would suggest it’s worse now than ever before with online dating and fewer opportunities to meet people in person, not to mention people having fewer social skills than in previous times. Everyone is glued to their phones and not joining clubs and participating in sport in the same ways as before etc. I was born in the 60’s so was dating in the 80’s and by golly I’m glad I was young then not now. My 30 year old daughter has never even had a proper boyfriend. Too many Tinder dates just want sex not a relationship and she’s not into that. It’s a lot harder these days to connect romantically. Monogamy has a lot going for it if you choose wisely😉
This is the 3rd documentary I'm watching on this topic; first the marriages in 1820-1900 Victorian time, then the marriages from 1900-1960 and now this 1960+ one. It seems every generation has changed things for the better but at the same time had a lot of struggles aswell. I myself grew up in the 90s/2000s and I agree with you that this situationships and online dating is very confusing. But in the Victorian time video they mentioned women were basically R* a lot and everyone was having affairs and in the 1900 video they mentioned that in the end of 1800s/beginning of 1900s women were like purity slaves to their husbands. Then I guess compared to those times the dating scene we have now at least gives women more freedom and safety. I wonder what struggles and improvements the next generation will face in their dating/marriage journey.
@@Nathan_Bookwurm the modern struggles are a lack of opportunity/places to meet initially for young people, stigmatization of approaching the opposite sex in public (nobody wants to be branded a creep and plastered online to the world), economic concerns about starting families (one of the main reasons people are in relationships, and also one of the main reasons to stay together past the initial few year honeymoon phase) as it is increasingly becoming more expensive to be starting out in life around the world in developed countries, and general lack of willingness to commit to a marriage at all even if there is a relationship (due to both legal concerns and ethical/moral degeneration of the west).
No you don’t lol my time was the early 2000s right before online dating so I know what it was like. It was like being hunted. I’m glad it’s all online now.
Im 47 year old female, beautiful i might add not yet married. I finally found the one 12 years ago. Will get married when we get a chance I guess. I love him so deeply. We found our life partners. He and I cant stand being appart. ❤
@@ludovicleprinceroyal8721 he's been married twice. Once we move out of this piece of sh$t state NY we are having a small wedding with our friends. Having been with him for 13 years now , he and I mesh. You have no idea what you're talking about because you've not found the one when having to marry is to prove their love. He and I love each other . We were each other's life partner . It is what it is. We do everything together.
Wrong explanation , that's where the revolting started, one should speak about sex and emotional/ hormonal bonding , getting to know someone first , old fashioned courting see the 7 veils of taoïsme
According to 2000 years of Christian tradition, both were expected to be virgins. That was the 'norm' up until at least the 1920's. Of course, men were more likely to have had sexual relations before marriage, but the percentage was low. With more women open to sex before marriage, there was clearly more opportunity. Most men found this type of women as "not the marrying kind" and the expectation of women to be virgins on their wedding day was high if she expected to marry well.
One more addendum to these days….man/boys didn’t feel the need to get married anymore because they could slake their desires with no future costs. At that time girl/women would try to get pregnant to basically “trap” their guy into marriage. Naturally this led to a lot of divorces.
I don’t doubt this happens, but from my own experience in school throughout university, and the combined experience from those in my age group, the only virgins I’ve seen get shamed, and rightfully so, are the religious zealots who tell everyone else what they should/should not do with their own bodies. People are worried about their own shit, and everyone is dealing with a lot, someone else’s virginity is not something people waste mental space on unless they’re literally children in middle school/high school. This is an uncommon experience.
@@pesto6530 I agree! It was the same thing when I was in high school in the mid to late 90's. Sure, it came up but it wasn't something that everyone was concerned about. It was your choice and nobody was made fun of. I had maybe one guy I dated have the "talk" about sex but he was 2 years older than me. I wouldn't say I felt pressured by him it was just a discussion that did warrant having. I wasn't opposed to it by then as I was 17, soon to be 18. We just happened to break up before we got there. I may have just been lucky but even messing around, no guy ever tried to push me to go all the way. We were heavily messing around so it would have been reasonable but I think maybe they were afraid to lol. So, that worked well for me. I certainly didn't give off the easy vibe nor did I have the reputation as such. But it really just wasn't something people were hyper focused on then. We just kind of minded our own business about that. Some people were know to be more active in that area but it was like whatever, that is their choice. Even my friends and I had varying levels of experience and it was not a subject we talked about that often or with much weight. I never heard anyone get made fun of for that.
The irony of the 60's "Free Love" movement gave way to the 70's "Decade of Debauchery" is not lost on me. The great STD scare of the 80's drove young men to other pursuits. The advent of the InterNET of the 90's really did destroy "Recreational Sex" as a pastime for young couples.
Watch Revolutionary Road for the 60s (and The Help too), Match Point and Closer to see how this style would play out in modern day. Those were all dystopian movies made right before things changed. Oh yes and Forrest Gump and My Girl were also sort of about old school dating. Then there’s a bunch about being gay as a kid back then too. Robin Williams was in a few about the gay struggle. My Own Private Idaho, gus van sant movies. Modern times are so much better. The competition is there but so are the choices. You’re not stuck knowing 300 people in your town.
34:00 that Maureen chick, her husband should've never ever hit her at all...but damn is a husband supposed to be okay with his wife putting her body on display? And yeah, she remarried, but she didn't talk about what kind of marriage that was.
@@EMAV0818Or don't marry a model if you want to keep her for yourself 🤷 he told her he was okay with it the moment he married her knowing what her profession was.
Oh STFU! These shows were often made years ago! Just because they just posted it doesn't mean that it was made recently! That is the case with so many history documentaries that make their way onto CZcams! Hell, the History Channel hasn't shown shows about history in 20 years! Also, the term "boomer" is played out at this point and it just makes you sound like a snotty little idiot.
@@gwendolyn0515 you absolute bufoon... In case you're new to the internet you can upload your content to youtube with a different title. Imagine this title: "Live: Coronation of Elizabeth II"; for a video of the coronation of the aforementioned. It would be technically accurate, yet idiotic beyond any semblance of salvagability.
Nothing wrong with taking care of children and home…it is only problematic if partner is treating home like a hotel and her wife as a servant.
Indeed but you forgot one point: there's nothing wrong being a housewife or househusband if that's the person's choice
Both working is twice taxed and children indoctrinated by the state, now even 2 jobs isn't enough
so many were taught from birth to behave that way, though. men really had no rules or standards they were required to adhere to regarding their wives or mistresses. some were compassionate and reasonable, and some were complete buttheads. but, they basically could do what they wanted with no judgement or consequences, and women had to tiptoe a straight line on eggshells. the church made divorce pretty much impossible, so it was really dangerous if he fell out of love or met someone else. and if he died, women couldn't own property. everything went to the male closest in kin and it was up to him what happened to her. if brother/uncle/cousin allowed her to stay in her own home, he was considered extremely charitable. if he let her live in HIS household, that was more common, so he could remind her and the kids every day that they'd be on the street without him. men were God. last word. absolute authority.
@@marinarassin4231that's the plan
Truth. Even today if that’s what you want and are making an informed decision, not being pressured etc. A woman I know from college, got her degree, and married a doctor. She told me she wanted a degree ‘just in case’ but what she really wanted from her life was to be a wife and stay at home mother so that’s what she did and they are still very happy.
I was born in 65, my wife in 71. We met in 1990 and have been together ever since, we have 2 daughters and 6 grandchildren, 3 boys and 3 girls. We hit a bump here and there, but (we've talked about this) we wouldn't change a single thing as these past 34yrs have been absolutely amazing!
Marriage does work, but it has to be with the right person, you both have to put everything, including your soul into ital and, Communication is absolutely paramount 😊
Ur one of the lucky ones
Fiona MacCarthy was a cultural historian, she died in 2020 age 80.
Hate to break it to you...
But the 60s wasn't 20 years ago...
Beat me to it!!!!
People don't realize this is an old documentary. lol
It's from 2012 so 40 years still doesn't quite track
No, of course it was 40!
Nice comment but things were that way 40 years ago….and they have gotten sooooo much better. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 unwed mothers pooping out babies and men who don’t take responsibility. Free sex is good until a baby is involved. Unfortunately the men seem to like the free sex part, but whether it’s access to abortion and birth control they don’t want to take the blame.
None of the men that I had relationships with ever believed that marriage was the best way to go. They were more interested in what I could do for them than what they could do for me.
It was the same way back then. Marriages were VERY beneficial for the most men, they didn't marry because they all somehow believed in a pure internal love. To be married meant an excess to free sex and having a free domestic server.
I don't say people didn't fall in love and marry for that reason. I'm not a cynic, who doesn't believe in love and friendship, but clearly not every marriage back then was made in heaven. If you speak to older women today, you hear many horrific stories about life long emotional neglect, dead dreams and wasted lives.
and nothing has changed lol. men are still treating women like garbage and viewing us as objects.
Ever see father Mike Schmitz on marriage? He has a wonderful story about his childhood and a plaque of women taken from a mens rib: not from the head as to gouvern over ,not from the feet as to walk over , but from the side as to stand NXT to , close to the ❤ as to be loved by ,under the arm as to be guarded
You choose these men
Abslolutely love hearing all the stories ❤
SOOOO, when was this made? I did enjoy hearing these perspectives and would really like to hear about love and marriage from the 80s to now. As I sit here in my 50s, single and few to no prospects of a relationship, it seems that most of my peers are very cut off and disillusioned with any kind of relationship.
They don't really make any shows like this anymore! Obviously as with most history docs on YT, they were made many years ago. But I do agree I'd love to see a show about how different it is now compared to when I started dating in the mid 90's. It was better back then! I don't know what went wrong but things have gone right the hell downhill! Obviously, the internet and dreaded online dating has had some part in it. But also many people are not being raised with the idea of marriage and kids being the norm anymore. Which is ok but it should also be discussed that marriage still has value. Everyone being alone and jumping from one crappy relationship to another is what has come out of it. Most men don't think they ever have to get married or even have a serious relationship and that is almost celebrated. Same with women but to a lesser degree. We can't screw around into our late 40's or 50's and just marry a much younger guy and have a family like men can. It sucks! These women haven't received untold number of dic pics or had men think that they can expect to have sex with you after saying a few words to you online or had one conversation in a bar. Most women do not want to be treated like hookers! If they want it that fast with no effort, then they need to contact prostitutes just like other generations did! These people even would be shocked. My mother and grandmother certainly never experienced a fraction of the shit I have. They would just have no understanding if I tried to explain it. They couldn't fathom men acting like that or having that nerve and expectation.
This is the sad truth. More people are surviving illness, wars, etc. You were just not chosen by Darwin to reproduce. Sorry you were a hard pass.
@@marniekilbourne608 it all started with Political Correctness. Think about it... it wad sooo subtle in the way it got people to change their way of thinking, and society has grown into what it is today
@@roberttanguay8532It started when women got rights and didn't need their husband to get a credit card. We don't need to be married to be valued anymore.
Just not worth bothering witch crazy butches anymore. Rotten to the core, the whole lot.
This is the most interesting thing they've posted in a while. I would also like to know what year this was made lol
2012
Part 3🙏🏽
I remember those days. It was a very confusing time.
Really? More confusing than today? I don't think so at all.
@@baylorsailor you know, you have a great point there. I went out earlier today and went through the artsy part of town. I'm confused, all right.
This is all great if it’s what you want. The wonderful thing that feminism gave women was the right to choose what kind of life a person wants. Not only for women but for men as well.
Are they free or is their mind made up for them , indoctrinated by msm and not told the real truth about anything ? That's my experience
These shows were often made years ago! Just because they just posted it doesn't mean that it was made recently! That is the case with so many history documentaries that make their way onto CZcams! Hell, the History Channel itself hasn't shown shows about history in 20 years! You all think you are so clever but you can't tell this was not made recently?! No sign of HD at all. SMH
Richard for the win! Bless him for just being a decent human being first and foremost. He also has a lovely voice - I could listen to him speak for hours. And Rosie! She's one of my personal heroes...
Fascinating as I grew up when all this was happening. Interestingly enough both of my parents worked , my brother and I were latchkey kids before it was normal. Fast forward to the mid seventies I couldn’t date a guy for more than a month afore me da wanted me to marry them…fortunately me mum would have none of it and encouraged me to be an independent working gal before marriage, the tug of war made me crazy. But of course my mom had problems with premarital sex too, which was just not happening. The whole time was so confusing. I think the mixed messages of the time led to many unfortunate marriages….. I do need to add that my parents were married for nearly sixty years….
Now what are you doing? Are you single?
@@angeldip5797 uh nope been living with said childhood sweetheart for a couple of decades now….old song love will find a way 🥰
I find it ironic that the people who wore orange thought they were escaping a societal prison. Yet they committed themselves to bondage of a different kind. It doesn’t sound like it was a life sentence for these two thank goodness.
half the comments are idiots saying "it's 60 years not 40" and the other half is people telling them this documentary is almost 20 years old...
20 years is a little over exaggerated for something that came out 12 years ago, but other than that you're probably right about these idiots 🤪
All these people who seem to have the awareness to realize the timeline is off but not to realize that a hundred other people have already posted comments about it already..
Ooh I would love it if they did a redo of this but compared it to now. How drastic things have changed in Love and Marriage today.
I was Virgin till Marriage. Got married at 22 and engaged at 19 and divorced at 30 and children at 25 and 27. Probably young now a days but I think it was fine
My high school girlfriend wanted badly to have sex, but I painfully resisted the urge. Back then sex meant you had to get married. She would say things like, "It's probably ok since we're going to get married anyway." But, I never mentioned marriage, and I knew I didn’t want to marry her. I knew the kind of girl I wanted to marry, and it wasn't her. She was beautiful and kind but also boring and not very learned. We went up just to the edge, and we did everything but go "all the way." We both still made sure the other was quite satisfied. (We learned a lot from a couple of p*rno movies.) On my second day at college I met THE girl, and I instantly fell in love, i.e., ZERO HESITATION. God, it was glorious. I called my girlfriend and said, "Farewell." She later married a childhood friend of mine, I married my wife, and everything turned out ok.
Well, that's nice for you. I had a similar love at first sight the summer before I started college. We were together for 7 years and planned on marriage but I realized over time he was an alcoholic and he wasn't truly interested in me trying to help him with it. A binge drinker not a daily drinker. So, that crashed and burned big time eventually. I'd dated a decent number of guys before him and I was happy to not date anyone else. He hadn't dated as much because he'd had a long time high school girlfriend but he was certainly far more experienced with sex than I was so it evened out things I guess. We were both head over heals immediately and there was no question that we would start dating and soon no question that we would get married. Good thing I told him we should just wait to be officially engaged until after we graduated college. I was not getting married at 19/20 and my parents would not have been thrilled by any means. This was the late 90's so people didn't usually get married that young then though a few of my friends did.
@@marniekilbourne608 What is it called when someone drinks heavily for three days, gets sick for two or three days, and then the cycles begins again? Is that binge drinking? A dear friend of mine drank himself to death like that.
I think she might have married your childhood friend in retaliation for dumping her for another girl
@@cosmicmoon2012 As intriguing as that sounds it wasn't the case. My old friend William is just a really nice guy. She is lucky to have him, and he is lucky to have her.
….You determined her worth based on her wanting to sleep w you out of love since in her mind/ heart you two were going to marry. You should have just broken up w her. “The type of girl I wanted & it wasn’t her” how debasing. She was your gf- you strung her along until someone to your “standards “ showed up.
When women do that kinda thing they get named called. Your gf deserved better than a man like you anyways
1960s wasn’t 40, it was 60
Poor thing
When this was filmed it was.
@@queencerseilannister3519nope! This documentary came out in 2012, get your facts straight
@@shayne604 That's still around 40 years prior.
@@queencerseilannister3519 but they said 60 years so they're wrong lol
Hi, I haven't seen the video yet, but I find it confusing that there's the mention of 1960' but the title says something about the last 40 years. I mean, as a millenil, I too feel like it's barely the early 2000', but objectively it's not, and it's already been 60 years from the sixties 😂
Because the documentary must be from the 2000s ?
Thank you for all your help. You started this 🤬
It went from people getting married and having families in their early 20s to: women committing to no one and nothing without having to give up sex or intimacy while most men go years without even so much as a hug.
Ong my mom’s birthday is January 14, 1961! 5:41
I wonder what version of Xbox they used😊
XBox? What is this "XBox" you speak of? Dude...this pre-dates both Nintendo and Sega by a couple of decades!🤣
i don't know who was the first to decide purity until marriage was necessary/required, but I'm thinking maybe it was a good idea for the stability of the marriage. if there's nothing to compare it to, it's automatically the best you've ever had, right? and there's no insecurities from the partner, about being inexperienced or not as "good" as the former partners. AND there'll NEVER be an ex pop up confuse everyone's feelings. but, then, there's the off chance that you suddenly discover you're not even attracted in that way to the person you've just married 😮 i guess that's what all the kissing and cuddling is for, though.
Fall of 1969 the communist magazines were all about feminism, women's liberation, day cares, ect. By 1971 every college girl got MS magazine.
Obviously lots of things have changed for the better since the 1960’s but has the whole courtship/dating/marriage scene gotten better? I would suggest it’s worse now than ever before with online dating and fewer opportunities to meet people in person, not to mention people having fewer social skills than in previous times. Everyone is glued to their phones and not joining clubs and participating in sport in the same ways as before etc.
I was born in the 60’s so was dating in the 80’s and by golly I’m glad I was young then not now. My 30 year old daughter has never even had a proper boyfriend. Too many Tinder dates just want sex not a relationship and she’s not into that. It’s a lot harder these days to connect romantically. Monogamy has a lot going for it if you choose wisely😉
This is the 3rd documentary I'm watching on this topic; first the marriages in 1820-1900 Victorian time, then the marriages from 1900-1960 and now this 1960+ one. It seems every generation has changed things for the better but at the same time had a lot of struggles aswell. I myself grew up in the 90s/2000s and I agree with you that this situationships and online dating is very confusing. But in the Victorian time video they mentioned women were basically R* a lot and everyone was having affairs and in the 1900 video they mentioned that in the end of 1800s/beginning of 1900s women were like purity slaves to their husbands. Then I guess compared to those times the dating scene we have now at least gives women more freedom and safety. I wonder what struggles and improvements the next generation will face in their dating/marriage journey.
@@Nathan_Bookwurm the modern struggles are a lack of opportunity/places to meet initially for young people, stigmatization of approaching the opposite sex in public (nobody wants to be branded a creep and plastered online to the world), economic concerns about starting families (one of the main reasons people are in relationships, and also one of the main reasons to stay together past the initial few year honeymoon phase) as it is increasingly becoming more expensive to be starting out in life around the world in developed countries, and general lack of willingness to commit to a marriage at all even if there is a relationship (due to both legal concerns and ethical/moral degeneration of the west).
For me in 2024 i like this and wish for this because i don't have it.
No you don’t lol my time was the early 2000s right before online dating so I know what it was like. It was like being hunted. I’m glad it’s all online now.
I was thinking of the adult side where they have both.
This has to be at least 20 years old...
13:20 Richard Holloway: All that crap he believed was what St Paul wrote about religious men shouldn't have a relationship with (horror!) a woman.
What if your partner dies unexpectedly, then you marry again?
Im 47 year old female, beautiful i might add not yet married. I finally found the one 12 years ago. Will get married when we get a chance I guess. I love him so deeply. We found our life partners. He and I cant stand being appart. ❤
12 years? Sorry, but he's not going to marry you or anyone else really.
@@ludovicleprinceroyal8721 he's been married twice. Once we move out of this piece of sh$t state NY we are having a small wedding with our friends. Having been with him for 13 years now , he and I mesh. You have no idea what you're talking about because you've not found the one when having to marry is to prove their love. He and I love each other . We were each other's life partner . It is what it is. We do everything together.
Who is going to tell them that the 1960s wasn’t 40 years ago 😬
It was made in 2012. 1969 + 43 = 2012 in 2012 the 60s 70s were roughly 40 years ago.
This is a 15 year old documentary...
halo
What about Halo?
Bon jour
Imagine a time when a hymen determines your entire value as a woman and human being… 🤮
Wrong explanation , that's where the revolting started, one should speak about sex and emotional/ hormonal bonding , getting to know someone first , old fashioned courting see the 7 veils of taoïsme
Imagine a time when the paycheck determines your entire value as a man and a human-being... 🤔
Ah, but the males didn't need to be virgins...
that would be the woman's choice before she said I do
According to 2000 years of Christian tradition, both were expected to be virgins. That was the 'norm' up until at least the 1920's. Of course, men were more likely to have had sexual relations before marriage, but the percentage was low. With more women open to sex before marriage, there was clearly more opportunity. Most men found this type of women as "not the marrying kind" and the expectation of women to be virgins on their wedding day was high if she expected to marry well.
One more addendum to these days….man/boys didn’t feel the need to get married anymore because they could slake their desires with no future costs. At that time girl/women would try to get pregnant to basically “trap” their guy into marriage. Naturally this led to a lot of divorces.
With the pill lots of women were coherced into free sex , seen stories about key parties women telling about not being happy at all in hindsight
I’m a woman and despised the “Women’s Liberation”, I knew in the 60’s it would be the downfall of marriages, and break up homes.
But today people are shamed for being virgins.
I don’t doubt this happens, but from my own experience in school throughout university, and the combined experience from those in my age group, the only virgins I’ve seen get shamed, and rightfully so, are the religious zealots who tell everyone else what they should/should not do with their own bodies. People are worried about their own shit, and everyone is dealing with a lot, someone else’s virginity is not something people waste mental space on unless they’re literally children in middle school/high school. This is an uncommon experience.
Sounds like something a virgin would say. @@pesto6530
@@pesto6530 I agree! It was the same thing when I was in high school in the mid to late 90's. Sure, it came up but it wasn't something that everyone was concerned about. It was your choice and nobody was made fun of. I had maybe one guy I dated have the "talk" about sex but he was 2 years older than me. I wouldn't say I felt pressured by him it was just a discussion that did warrant having. I wasn't opposed to it by then as I was 17, soon to be 18. We just happened to break up before we got there. I may have just been lucky but even messing around, no guy ever tried to push me to go all the way. We were heavily messing around so it would have been reasonable but I think maybe they were afraid to lol. So, that worked well for me. I certainly didn't give off the easy vibe nor did I have the reputation as such. But it really just wasn't something people were hyper focused on then. We just kind of minded our own business about that. Some people were know to be more active in that area but it was like whatever, that is their choice. Even my friends and I had varying levels of experience and it was not a subject we talked about that often or with much weight. I never heard anyone get made fun of for that.
Um, the 1960s was 60 years ago, not 40
When this was filmed it was.
@@queencerseilannister3519It certainly looks and sounds remarkably good for being 20 years old
@@hugopondersfind any DVD from the 2000s; it’s similar quality 😅
Afullfilled life is a dream for both genders !
Absolutely!
Life back then kinda sucked.
So does it now ! Although even more!!!!
The irony of the 60's "Free Love" movement gave way to the 70's "Decade of Debauchery" is not lost on me. The great STD scare of the 80's drove young men to other pursuits. The advent of the InterNET of the 90's really did destroy "Recreational Sex" as a pastime for young couples.
Watch Revolutionary Road for the 60s (and The Help too), Match Point and Closer to see how this style would play out in modern day. Those were all dystopian movies made right before things changed. Oh yes and Forrest Gump and My Girl were also sort of about old school dating. Then there’s a bunch about being gay as a kid back then too. Robin Williams was in a few about the gay struggle. My Own Private Idaho, gus van sant movies.
Modern times are so much better. The competition is there but so are the choices. You’re not stuck knowing 300 people in your town.
@@edserembus9651no. It really sucked back then especially if you were a woman. Absolutely no autonomy.
@@butterbeanqueen8148 yea not much upward mobility unless you had a job of some sort then slow and steady is what ya hoped for z!
The 60s were 60 years ago. Not 40.
Um 1960 was 64 years ago
and this was filmed 15 years ago...
It’s been 60 years not 40
....the 1960's was 60 years ago my guys, not 40.
And this was filmed 15 years ago
Shouldn't it say 60 years, or over 50 years? Definitely, not 40.
15 year old documentary...
Dating is a waste of time your better off alone
You're expemplifying an over correction to toxic feminism. It won't look good for our society in 60 years. Sigh.
Cynical much?
40 years would be the 80s
yeah, 60s was 60 years ago.
Yes....because a video couldn't possibly have been recorded at an earlier point in time...smh
@@ChrisS36172012
These debutantes are in their 20s....they look 40.
They also had their children back to back.
@@dimples2000 They also didn't have snapchat filters back then...
34:00 that Maureen chick, her husband should've never ever hit her at all...but damn is a husband supposed to be okay with his wife putting her body on display? And yeah, she remarried, but she didn't talk about what kind of marriage that was.
Key word being "her" body. It's hers.
@drew8235 no the key words are married and husband and wife. Don't fucking get married if you're selfish.
@@EMAV0818 Exactly
@@EMAV0818Or don't marry a model if you want to keep her for yourself 🤷 he told her he was okay with it the moment he married her knowing what her profession was.
@Nathan_Bookwurm being a model is one thing posing nude is another thing entirely.
The 60-s were 60 years ago, wake up boomer.
Oh STFU! These shows were often made years ago! Just because they just posted it doesn't mean that it was made recently! That is the case with so many history documentaries that make their way onto CZcams! Hell, the History Channel hasn't shown shows about history in 20 years! Also, the term "boomer" is played out at this point and it just makes you sound like a snotty little idiot.
so that obviously means this wasn't filmed TODAY...... wake up, dimwit🤣
Are you slow? This doc is old, at the time the 60s were 40 years ago.
@@gwendolyn0515 you absolute bufoon...
In case you're new to the internet you can upload your content to youtube with a different title.
Imagine this title:
"Live: Coronation of Elizabeth II"; for a video of the coronation of the aforementioned.
It would be technically accurate, yet idiotic beyond any semblance of salvagability.
@@gwendolyn0515 are you?
Obviously not the Catholic priesthood.