The Ascent is a big old mess.
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The Ascent has some good gunplay and graphics... Beyond that?
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Small clarification: I know you can press a button to sell armor/weapon duplicates. (You can see me doing it at 17:48) But the remaining pieces all have to be sold 1 by 1, which is what I was referring to. You can see me doing exactly that in the clip when I'm talking about this. If you don't want your menu cluttered with dozens of armor pieces, you'll have to individually sell them. That's what I meant, should have worded that better.
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I recomend this horror mod called Totall Chaos its a 3D DOOM mod which is unbeliavable with 2 endings
Hey Under The Mayo if your looking for an amazing top down co-op shooter i highly recommend the game Synthetic. The best weapon in the game is by far the 420sniperdragon.
Video 3 of recommending Shadow of Mordor and it’s sequel Shadow of War.
I guess this is where people recommend games to you, so I'll recommend Legend of the Void 2.
Hollow is the worst horror game that I've played. Could you try it?
"I don't like to live in that world"
Most played video game: demons want to kill you and consume your soul while you're cursed with the eternal torment of hunting them down.
LOL good point. I think Doom's main appeal is the gameplay and not so much the world, more of a power fantasy than something immersive, though it can be immersive too.
That's because Doom Eternal's world and gore is slapstick and comical like Evil Dead 2(And this was a conscious decision by Hugo) and not SAW. If Doom Eternal's world was more practical and realistic like SAW(Doom 3), it would not be this replay able. Doom Eternal has apocalypse, demons but at the end of the day, its all about the tone the team chose to express its world. Also, look at the level variety in terms of aesthetic. It starts off at hell on earth, then ancient city of Exultia which is purely medieval, followed by an Arctic location full of ice and chill, then back to the hell rave of Super Gore nest, then the night city scape of Arc complex, so on and so forth. Its not neon lights, wet roads, big ads through and through.
Bro you mean pokemon?
@@thandomsandler1559 Yes
Reviewing a game in a genre you hate openly doesn't make sense.
"You just want everything to be Streets of Rage 4"
BUT HE DIDN'T UPLOAD THE ESTEL GUIDE YET NOOOOOOOOOO
And doom eternal
Which is good
Let's make this a thing.
@@underthemayo Streets of DOOM?!
@@underthemayo I agree.
Blade runner have depressing world but pretty uplifting message. At the end, the replicants always proved their humanity.
Meanwhile most cyberpunk games are just cynical technobable plot. Game made by nerds hang up on the superficial trapping, not the SOUL™ of the genre.
Except the guy that was like "Time to die!" and then got shot in the head...
This is why I think Blade Runner continues to persevere and get better as it ages.
don't know if I would really count "the expendable robot slave class are actually just as human as we are" to be an uplifting ending
@@eyesta1ker yes. Uplifting doesnt mean wholesome heroes riding into the sunset type ending. Because while the movies have very long and detail take to show off its crappy world, the plot is mostly character driven. The movies already accepted that this world cant be fixed so the big picture should not be of much concern. They are there to show you which kind of environment create these personalities and situation. So, when the better nature of the characters triumphed over they conditioning by the world, it's pretty uplifting imo.
Modern cyberpunk/futuristic game stories always make me groan, get bored, and then I end up skipping them. They're always delivered via meaningless exposition from characters with zero personality. I liked ghostrunner but Jesus was the story awful, I ended up turning voices down to zero.
I suggest Synthetik.
The camera is odd for you, but that game seems a cup of tea for you.
Synthetik is so fun.
Holy shit this guy needs to play synthetik
I second this, Synthetic is the best isometric twin-stick I've ever played
I'm happy that I am not the only one that likes Blade runner 2049 more than the original.
Dude BR 2049 is way better than BR 2019.
Far better film for sure. Action, set pieces, character moments, the lot.
Same here
Nah , OG BR is best BR. The others are cheap cash grabs .
@@Snyperwolf91 Wrong
(Not trying to defend this game in anyway or other mediocre Cyberpunk genre properties and I'm gonna get a lot of backlash for saying this but I'll say it anyway) With respect, if you don't like being in a cyberpunk world where everyone is angry and it's not all sunshine and rainbows then the best thing to do is stay away from the genre altogether.
The end.
It would have been absolutely fine if the environments changed frequently instead of just 2 places that look different.
The same critique can be reflected onto this comment.
“With respect, if you don’t like this kind of review where people go outside of their preferred genre and will mostly likely dislike fundamental traits about it, then the best thing to do is to stay away from the comments section all together. The end.”
@@underthemayo well with respect that's the point of the ascent the world being dystopian and oppressive so the environment is going to be samey and corporate not with personality
@@yobig4541 That's... I'm sorry that ain't a very good arguement mate. I highly doubt that the environments were intentionally samey as a deliberate artistic decision.
And even so the arguement of "Its corporate, there its allowed to be boring" ain't great. I remember reading up on the companies since I was just curious about what the hell they were, and if my memory serves me correctly, some of them were...
Miner gear
Sports gear
Military gear
And high tech stuffies
If you introduced just 3 of those ideas as environments it would completely change the feel. Hell it could even work, bottom level would be dominantly miners, middle could be military and the top level rich bois could be sports nuts since they're rich and have lots of money to waste on sports betting, that'd give each level a unique theme and environment and make them a lot more fun to play in and look at.
@@mage0534 ok look i did not feel that the ascent was samey but and just fine as is but it probably needed more areas hopefully theres dlc
but you got to admit the gameplay is awsome
usually in games, specially combat focused, the little things matter a lot more than they are given credit for
*especially
"I love The Road, but I wouldn't want to play a 20 hour game in that world" - Lol that is exactly how I feel about The Last of Us.
Ayy a mention of The Road
The most depressing film I've ever seen, but god is it good for a single watch.
It is hopelessly crushing. Especially the ending.
I had to pause the movie in the middle and just try not to cry before continuing. Only movie to ever do that to me.
I think Cyberpunk aesthetics are actually underplayed and I wish more games were like this. I find it refreshing.
It was a fun enough game that I don't regret playing it until the end. I'd give it like a 6/10. I enjoyed the gunplay, music, and graphics, but the story is bland and the world (while beautiful) doesn't particularly stand out or resonate. There are also some completely asinine design decisions: the map sucks, some of the enemies are designed to just be obnoxious, the tutorials that NEVER STOP even after seeing them over and over again, and good heaven the final third's philosophy of "throw endless overwhelming waves since we need a challenge" culminating in one of the worst final battles I've ever played. I don't regret playing through it because it was fun and I picked it up on Gamepass, but I wouldn't suggest paying asking price for it.
“The world is overall bleak and miserable”
Isn’t that the point of the acent’s environment?
regardless if it's the point it's clearly didn't resonate with the dude.
Plus you can absolutely have a bleak and miserable environment with some visual variety. You can absolutely go overboard with an aesthetic and just make it boring instead.
The souls series would be a good example of this. Dark and depressing atmosphere with plenty of visual variety.
29 times asking mayo to talk about Serious Sam
About which one? Hope not Serious Sam 2
Any game, preferably TFE and TSE. The series doesn't change much from game to game, only the level design becomes sucky-er with each new installment.
You should give a rating for each game you review and call it the "WAWAWA" meter.
😂😂😂
It's not perfect, but considering it's a tiny dev team and how high quality and fun it is to play, it's impressive and absolutely easy to recommend, especially on Gamepass
Dude just wants everything to be Doom Eternal
Hey Mayo, you try the new Killer Instinct? I think you mentioned in some videos you're not too much into multiplayer, and it's limited budget I think becomes most apparent in single player. Still, it has a pretty good tutorial, the net code is really good, and if nothing else, should get a kick out of the Mick Gordon soundtrack. It's pretty neat the way the music works in the actual fights.
I agree with everything you said except "looter shooter". It isn't a looter shooter. You get the equipment while playing the missions or buy them but can't grind for better ones with higher stats.
"yOu JuSt WaNt EvErY gAmE tO bE sTrEeTs Of RaGe 4"
yep its time to start it
Man see mayo talking about the world and characters in this game makes me want to see him bitching about the last of us part 2 because this is exactly what i think he would say about this game
i don’t think he would be a big fan of the first one either. gameplay wise.
Under The Mayo plays a cyberpunk game and wonders why its a cyberpunk game. "Why is this setting so depressive?" Dude that mean its working. And, no, a game of The Road would be awesome. Are you turning into your boomer phase my guy?
I don't wonder why it's a cyberpunk game. People ask me to play things and say what I think about them. That's what I'm doing. Also, the cyberpunk world would be much more enjoyable if there were some more environmental variety (as seen in the Blade Runner movies) and with some likeable characters. Instead, the world is depressing and uniform pretty much the whole time, which doesn't compliment a fast paced shooter.
14:28 : you know you're addicted to "Doom" when you call enemies from other games "fodder".
Fodder is a general term used in games to describe weak enemies that are used very often. They are in most shooter games, not just Doom.
You know you're addicted to "Doom" when you call "fodder" a doom word.
You just want everything to be DOOM of Rage 4
I actually would recommend the Ascent I thought it was a great fun time
Opposite of the "Descent" franchise!
"Im being critical because even though the world looks cool, its scary and sad so i dont like it".
So I take it you dont like Fallout, Dishonored, Half Life, Resident Evil, Bioshock, Mass Effect.
Hate to break it to you, but sad depressing worlds are in 90% of the best games.
Man I was so excited for this game 😭. Why did it turn out like this.
It's still really fun, I'm enjoying the environment so much that the little niggles or issues I don't care. It's still worth it.
@@hadesofspades I might give it a try, then I love the aesthetic. I should prolly get it on sale.
Get it. Don’t listen to reviewers (good or bad). Go with your gut! I thought this game was amazing and I don’t usually like isometric games
@@rKAL-EL Oh , I bought the game, I'm loving it.
@@solidsnake6923 badass!
I love this game but recently I’ve hit so many bugs I think the game is actually unplayable atm.
Although I would agree on some of your points (crap map, not possible to dismantle items, a lot of pointless running - to name a few) , other points you make are complete - ehrm - garbage. You don't want to live in that cyberpunk world, and therefore don't like playing in it? How about TLOU, Soulslike, Diablo ? You claim there is only one way of keeping your health up during a fight, forcing you to equip that one augment? Not true. Can't say anything about the co-op flaws, because I am solo atm, but so far I experienced two crashes, with a restart not too far away, so there's that. Plus, a not so pro tip as a sidenote: activate your cyberdeck next to these yellow circles on the ground - they will spawn a stationary canon that helps you out.
TLOU, Soulslike, Diablo, have dark worlds that compliment their gameplay. I don't think The Ascent does. The cyberpunk world be just fine even if it's not to my tastes, if only they had some more environmental variety (as stated in the video) and if the characters weren't all so offputting (as mentioned in the video).
I also didn't say there is only way way of keeping your health up. I said "A lot of times there's no way to heal yourself in combat." If you have the augment that syphons health, that's only good against a large enemy with high HP. Otherwise, you're mostly dependent on random health drops which you might not get. So yeah, especially playing solo on Hard, if you don't have the healing field and you're screwing around with Frag of EMP grenades, you're gonna die.
If the game actually allowed you to equip multiple tactical equipment types so you could cycle through 2 or 3 of them in real time combat, it would be much more practical to mess around with other equipment types because then you could switch to healing field when you need it.
But thank you for the comment.
@@underthemayo agreed on the environmental variety - as a long time cyberpunk nerd (way before Blade Runner, William Gibson and Co) I can see a lot more different settings that would fit perfectly into this game, but dark, gritty and a f*cked up society do fit as a general setting. Two augments come to mind that help you with health during combat: the one that drains life from enemies and the one that set you back to a presaved health status. But I am playing on normal, so that sure does have an impact on how important health is. Multiple tactical equipment would be great, agreed. And thanks for the long response, appreciated ;)
Big agree on the limited arsenal. 2 weapon systems are an admittedly appealing idea in concept, but in practice it's unfortunately, well, limiting. In a bad way. You don't need to go full Doom and have every single possible gun bound to a hotkey, but at least have, like, 4 on the d-pad? Just enough variety for multiple situations and for general experimentation, but not so many options that it's overwhelming or cumbersome for quick-swapping on controllers. Plus it still forces you to make choices on what to have equipped. 4 feels like the magic number to me.
And equipment too. I would totally be using frag grenade and emp if I could cycle to them and then cycle to healing field when needed.
Even though this is just my opinion I believe this is the best twin-stick shooter I've ever seen or played and I've played A LOT of different twin-sticks, I'm also a massive Gears of War 1-3 fan and this game gives me such gears vibes in the gameplay department! I've never been a big gamer for storylines although I do enjoy a good story but gameplay has always taken center stage for me and this game bugs and all has managed to consume at LEAST 40 hours of my life so far and I have 8 characters all around level 20 and my main is level 35 XD Idk maybe this is just my kind of game but I've found a lot to occupy my time in the game with character builds, New Game Plus, and Farming runs through the Scraplands PLUS there's PVP if the players use explosive weapons including the modified explosive and incendiary assault rifle Overwhelmer (Not sure yet if incendiary weapons harm other players) you can basically play Isometric Gears Of War! Ok I've said my piece lol
Mayo you should do a review on the original God of War games. Just one positive video please.
I second this
Mayo be like: i dont like cyberpunk games because i wouldn't like live in there
Mayo when playing doom eternal: OMG!! YES I LOVE IT SO MUCH
"Bleak and miserable", so is real life :D
If you are interested in an aggressive adrenaline rush-giving top down shooter, play Alienation
Meh dead nation is the best still hands down.
SOLO PLAYER HERE Late to it, I personally had to give it a 2nd try but damn do I love it now. I respect yr opinions about this game because I see that u actually dived in to the inventory changing armor , loot, energy. Unlike the other "Gaming Channels" that ran with what looked like the first 2stock guns and low armor for 4 missions screaming how that game is broke.
I had such an odd experience with this one. I was dog sitting in a friend's house, bored, and saw this on Gamepass. I proceeded to play about 6 hours in one go, enjoying myself immensely. Then, for various reasons (being reunited with my PS5, for example) I didn't touch it for months. Going back to it, I really didn't get into the game again. Perhaps because getting used to the controls again in a harder part of the game was too much to ask...dunno. But something about this didn't grab me the second time.
Just a correction: when you go to a store, there's a button prompt in the bottom corner that says "sell all duplicate items". You press that once and it sells all the duplicate guns, armour, augments, etc... That being said, I do agree with most of your critiques, despite enjoying the game.
It is definitely janky but I still found it fun.
You have to sell all the remaining copies 1 by 1 though.
@@underthemayo That's a UI bug, if you look at your cash when you do so you'll notice it doesn't change. If you exit the shop after selecting "sell all duplicate items" and open it again you'll see all your duplicates have already been sold.
@@rexlupis That's not what he's saying. He's saying that once you sell your duplicates, you still have to sell everything else you've picked up. And most of what you pick up are things you've picked up before. So you end up just selling the same things over and over again individually.
@@gummibear696 ...I'm not sure I understand...
Unless you're asking about selling items you DON'T have duplicates of (IE: weapons you don't think you'll use)...?
But there's really no reason to do that as just from selling duplicates and doing quests you'll have way more money than you could ever use...
You can avoid selling things over and over again by just selling the duplicates instead of repeatedly selling them off every time. There's no reason to do that unless you're OCD about having a minimalist inventory... In which case, the curse of having to resell all the individual items would be really tiring. The game also disincentivies such actions because it warns you you're about to sell your last copy of an item/weapon/etc every time... Making it even more tedious... It's systems are trying to tell you that doing such a thing is unnecessary.
Like a lot of games systems, when you do things that are counter the game's design and offer no real benefit, you're likely to have a bad time (Think of trying to play Doom Eternal like COD and trying to hide behind cover, then complaining that the game is poorly designed because you keep dying despite hiding behind cover...)
Well thats the thing with complicated upgrade systems. They have to create the need before they create the solution.
The level design hazard and enemy placement do this first, then ability tree or in game cue informs you of handy attribute you can grow to address the problem
I honestly love the depressing feel of stuff like Blade Runner, but it only stays interesting if, like BR and it’s sequel, the characters are more interesting than the world around them. BR 2049 also balances it out by visiting places with different colour palettes like the junkyard/orphanage, the bright snowy area where Deckard’s daughter lives and the bright orange of Las Vegas.
15:58 The pocket mech? That's amazing, you can deal out loads of damage, while hardly taking any in return. Plus it lasts for ages if you have put a lot skill points into cybernetics.
It's always exciting to see angry mayo on the thumbnail
Reserved for special occasions.
Another great vid from mr. mayonnaise himself. This game needs a major overhaul styled update, because there's a lot of good things about it marred by outright incompetent design decisions. The looter shooter aspect of this game is one of the worst that could've been chosen because that's NOT what people play twin stick shooters for.
I'm quite confused by journalists praising this game when there are so many issues with it. One of the issues I have is that there is no run button like there normally is in twin stick shooters of this type. You're just made to jog at this annoyingly slow pace which is agonizingly tedious for a game that has you hoofing it back and forth between the same handful of locations most of the time. It's especially frustrating because of the unused buttons in your controller layout, meaning there SHOULD'VE been a run button.
The devs of this game should've studied the HOUSEMARQUE template to a T, particularly their ALIENATION game, as that is probably the closest game that I would compare The Ascent to due to it's customization and more open world nature, as far as twin stick shooter games are concerned.
Excuse me sir, but I've completely failed to see how this game is anything close to being a looter shooter. If anything it has more common with souls games than a looter shooter. Upgrade material is mostly scattered through the world, weapons are found either from enemies, yes, but there is no random factor to their stats or anything else for that matter, except for the drop chance. Some weapons can only be found the same way as the upgrade material, so you don't need to farm anything really. Expore the world, find hidden stuff here and there.
The abscence of run button is noticable indeed, but the moment you get to use Taxi feature you kinda forget about it. Alas this issue will pop up at some places where you can't fast travel for sure.
The world altho same-ishly looking, is brimming with detail, as if it was living on it's own, and I did appireciate that a lot. Certainly the game has lots of issues, like high level enemies messing 5 to 10 meters away from whatever you were doing on your main/side mission, which leads you to being one shot. Enemies don't scale with your character, so whenever you are high enough level, you'll just run through most of the enemies like they are butter, and you are the knife.
Bugs are pretty annoying, like we've had triple of the same boss on couple occasions, one side quest was glitching out of completion and some more stuff, but overall it didn't matter to me all that much, and I've enjoyed the game quite a lot. It's also pretty short, I've had 2 characters, one had finished the main campaign and all the side quests including finding all hidden weapons and other stuff and I barely reached 30h mark.
Roguelite twin sticks gave us pretty great titles like enter the gungeon and nuclear throne.
@@Mozgodrobil Whatever you have failed to see, is of no concern to me. You fail at comprehending simple sentences. I never said this game was a looter shooter. What I said was that this game has "looter shooter aspects", which it does. Work on your comprehension skills when you read the comments people type. Also, in what way does this game have anything in common with the mediocre Dark Souls style of game?!
Also, my issue with the game not having a run button is quite reasonable, and cannot be overlooked because of the fast travel feature in the game. Having a run button in a twin stick shooter game is a common feature, and it's purpose isn't merely just for traversal, it is also for benefits in combat. The only thing you can do for evasive maneuvers in The Ascent is to roll away, which you can only use couple of times before it needs to recharge. That's stupid.
While there are elements of this game I do like, there were many poor design decisions made in this game done at the expense of fun, and that's outright incompetent. This game needed another year in the oven, because it clearly isn't finished. The devs need a major overhaul update to this game because it is seriously lacking. Mayo covered most of the important issues in his vid, so I don't need to.
@@shinbakihanma2749 Gentlemen, this is the prime example of how to not write an answer, Instead of meaningless insults, you'd better be off explaining said features of which you were talking about. Whenever some one you are talking with makes it personal, instead of sticking to the subject at hand, just feel free to remove yourself from conversation. Have a good day
@@Mozgodrobil I insulted you? And I'm getting personal? How? Me making an accurate assessment about you is getting personal and insulting you how? And who are these "gentlemen" you're addressing in a comment specifically addressed to me? Once again, work your comprehension, you seriously need it
Hey Mayo? Two damn solid Twin Stick shooter titles you should check out if you haven't already, are ALIENATION (developed by the Dead Nation people) and the Alien Breed trilogy.
Alienation is only on PS4 due to it being developed by HOUSEMARQUE, and it is pretty much Dead Nation with Aliens, gameplay wise. The main difference being that it is an open map (with looter shooter aspects) versus the traditional advancing level design of Dead Nation. It is very customization based, so you find a large assortment of guns, defensive and offensive gear, etc. I know you hate looter shooter mechanics (I do too), but it's done very well, and it's done more to benefit YOU and your enjoyment of the game. The online coop is damn good and fun as hell. It's a great game. It's fun, trust me.
The Alien Breed trilogy (Evolution, Assault and Descent) is on PC, PS3 and X360, and it is more along the lines of DEAD NATION in gameplay AND traditional level design, except it is pretty much ALIENS the movie made into a trilogy of twin stick shooter games. It's pretty much the closest I've seen to a survival horror version of of a twin stick shooter, what with limited ammo, save points, and the isolation themes. It is also more exploration based, so the level design is tweaked more in favor of that. It's awesome. Play it you haven't already.
OH LOOK, what a surprise that the rotten Mayo doesn't like a game that plays different to Doom, like if every game needs to be a Doom clone.
Thanks for this. I played for a few hours and couldn’t understand the positive reviews
Same my dude, me and my friend played it for a few hours and we just scrapped it
Wood widely doesn't exist in Cyberpunk because it assumes our dystopian reality that could happen so you can't really afford to make signs
That's why i said "it doesn't have to be that." I was making a point that we need some locations that feel different.
@@underthemayo ohhh, I might of missed that part in particular. I agree on making locations feel different and I do wish they presented their cyberpunk in a different way
@@daytonsaragosa2040 Remember in the new Blade Runner how they went out into the desert areas? That stuff really helps the pacing. If it's 3 hours of just dirty metal and neon lights, it wears on me.
@@underthemayo I do actually, yeah I understand that completely
I only know like 20 games in my life, so hearing a new game and "big old mess" at the same time is disappointing D:
Under the Mayo and Synthetic Man need to team up. I could watch these guys critique paint drying on a wall.
Synthetic man is one of the most pathetic youtubers ive ever watched
I think if people want another co-op shooter with a similar camera angle they should check out Darksiders Genesis. It's a ton of fun.
You just want everything to be Streets of Rage 4!!!
If you get depressed from the setting of The Ascent, you'd be on suicide watch after The Last of Us 2
I really don't understand this take, though. The dystopian setting is part of the appeal here. It's part of the appeal with The Last of Us or Dark Souls, too. TLoU2 and DS3, especially the former, are the bleakest games I have ever played, but that's part of why I love them so much. I hate TLoU2's story, but it's setting and tone I absolutely adored.
It's more than there's no contrast. Depressing settings are fine. But when everything looks the same and characters and miserable, it's too much. There's nothing to inspire. Even the darkest stories need uplifting elements and hope.
@@underthemayo The whole point of a dystopia is that everything's fucked. Not every bleak story needs hope. Dark Souls is utterly devoid of all hope, especially 3. Do you hate the Souls series' setting too?
If it's not your style, that's fine. I completely understand why someone wouldn't want such a bleak setting. I personally love it cuz it's a change of pace from the norm. As much as I hated The Last of Us 2's story, it's insane bleakness is one thing I actually loved about it. And that norm IS the contrast you're asking for. Most stuff isn't that bleak, so having some bleak settings is a nice contrast from the rest of the industry.
But again, I feel like you're missing the point of the setting.
@@nat040496 Yeah. I'm also not a fan of Dark Soul's world. For some shared reasons of The Ascent. I feel depressed when I'm there. If you're into that, that's fine. But I don't like it, I think it could be done much better, and in this video I'm just saying why.
@@underthemayo that’s fair. Nothing wrong with that. I just feel like treating that as a criticism is wrong since that’s just your preference, while i and many others actually like the helplessly bleak setting. That’s kinda the point of dystopic settings.
We do have some agreements on the aethetic tho. In general i adore the neon-soaked gritty cyberpunk environments, but the clothing can often be hideous and stupid looking
I want to make an addend on this comment. I have no room to talk on this matter, I was speaking on what Mayo's opinions are. I would like to retract anything that is said below. I still do think that some of what I say can apply, but I also have not played the game myself. I have no room to talk in this regards if I have not played myself. Maybe I may retune this once I play it myself, but I do want to say that while yes I am a huge fan of Doom Eternal, I can also be a bit blinded with how good it is and how I would love for other games to take inspiration from games I love. That's not what video game design is about, it's about either making your own name or trying something new. The Ascent does a lot to make it's own identity, such as being a twin-stick shooter with a unique atmosphere. While yes there can be improvements, I should also learn to not look at everything through a small lense, but look at the flaws of a game critically in a broader perspective, and most importantly, play it first before I give my own opinions.
So my old comment below will be left, but please understand that after coming of the train of just watching Mayo lay into some of this game, I have a much less emotionally driven mind now. Also, if you have read down this far, I encourage you to do the same as well, don't just listen to what others say about something, play it for yourself before you say anything about it. And if you want to give critiques about the game, do it in a broad sense of how it could improve the game's identity, not make it more like a game you love.
(Below is the old comment, you may still read it and give your thoughts on it)
I really honestly think Doom Eternal has given us a taste for how fast-paced resource-management gameplay can be maximized.
*Doom Eternal:* Can upgrade gun mods but won't ever make one gun overpowered.
*The Ascent:* Can upgrade a gun to the point where all other guns become obsolete
*Doom Eternal:* Very Limited Ammo, forcing the player to utilize different guns in their combat
*The Ascent:* unlimited ammo, allowing the player to use one gun throughout the entire game
*Doom Eternal:* Literally every single gun you have and all equipment types are equipped go you at all times.
*The Ascent:* Two gun limit, one equipment limit, forcing the player to either change equipment constantly or just trudge through the level with what you have.
I'm not saying that the Ascent needs to be like doom eternal, I would much rather have a game that has it's own identity. However, I do think that Doom Eternal has revolutionized more than just the first-person shooter genre, but how to handle fast-paced varied gameplay as a whole.
>Not saying Ascent needs to be Doon Eternal
Dude.. Aren't every game has to be doom to be likeable at all? Jk. There was a meme on this channel about Mayo hating on everything for not being Eternal which is far from true ofc. But jokes aside Doom indeed became some sort of meta for shooters more or less demanding new games to follow its formula or just sink in negative reviews bc "Doom destroyed every FPS". Great example is Vicerafest indie boomer shooter which limits ammo and to be in a face action force player to move and work hard with guns, secrets and use melee to for finishing blow and gib them with a punch or dps at risk of running dry on ammo bc it's the only way to get hearts n heal up.
It’s an isometric twinstick shooter made by a pretty small team….there’s only so much depth it can go into. Enjoy it for what it’s worth and stop being unimpressed with anything less than mind blowing innovation
@@Ron_Swanson You are right. I did make a long comment add on to the original, but yeah I can sometimes be blinded by how much I love doom eternal. Sometimes, a good metaphoric slap like you just gave me is important, not every game should be like your favorite game. It's more important for a game to have it's own identity than for it to replicate something else you like. That is also my opinion as well.
@@Mario17h1 Ofcourse buddy but sometimes it’s nice to play something different, or something you wouldn’t typically want to, and if you can find enjoyment somewhere you didn’t expect to then surely that’s a win?!
@@Ron_Swanson that is certainly a win. I really need to keep an open mind. I usually do, but sometimes that one game I really like just takes over my head and then I just get a bit blinded by it. Something I need to work on.
I agree with you on this one, Mayo. A friend of mine recommend this and it looked cool and the co-op was a big appeal for us. We’re late 20s and can only game at night, so co-op games are perfect. I’m two hours in and it’s just a walking simulator. The combat is…fine. The tutorials popping up while the game is still active and you have to press and hold space to dismiss them is a horrible design choice. The hub is just straight up awful. Heck, the minimap is straight up awful. I don’t understand the upgrade system or weapon upgrades. I want to play it more with friends, but good lord is this game frustrating. And after only 2 hours of playing!
Do you know what a walking simulator is? I'm assuming no since you followed that up with a statement on its combat. Walking simulators don't have combat. Good or bad, it isn't part of the genre.
“I don’t recommend the ascend but you should try it” wtf
Definitely never said "should".
@@underthemayo ur giving plenty of reasons for someone to try it dude
I too wish we'd see a Cyberpunk - themed game that has a "return to monke" subculture/locale.
The "Unga Bunga" District
I know it's your opinion, but there's a ton of people that love playing games in worlds they'd never wanna live in, myself included. I think the best example of this is Warhammer 40k. I don't think anyone wants to live in that universe, but that's part of the appeal; how absolutely horrifying that world is and playing as someone managing to get by the best they can in that world.
"i dont like how miserable and bleak it is" *proceeds to put hours in doom eternal*
I also have a soft spot for isometry and don't appreciate looter shooters. And your arguments are valid. Even if I scoffed at some of them at first, in the end, you managed to make good points every time.
Wow somebody talking about dead Nation in 2021 now that's a one I remember
Mayo doesn’t like experiencing a dystopian future setting; finds it depressing. Prefers hell.
I love cyberpunk aesthetic. I don’t find it depressing. Id love to live in that kinda world looks fun.
Yes! This! Holy crap I thought I was insane. Friends love this game it’s just not as hype as I keep hearing. Thank you for just being honest in your reviews.
But the loot, bro.
Its just not for everyone thats for sure, there are CZcamsrs like Mayo how do reviews , how enjoyed and recommend this game also last time i cheek even the user scores on Metacritc were like 7, 7+ . This game is a 7+ imo . With is not bad at all , for a game that was made by 12 people and as their first game , i think it is solid over all . They can do much better thats for sure , hopefully with an Ascent 2 or new ip .
describing cyberpunk in this is basically just describing new york
How can they release a game that isn't ready to play. OK it works on my xbone x fine (at 30fps/4k) but I really wanna try it on my PC's and it crashes. Never got past splash page.
Disable Windows Game Mode (Settings > Gaming > Game Mode. It's enabled by default). I have it disabled and my Xbox PC Games run way better. The Ascent even loaded just fine. I can even get Fallout 3 and New Vegas to launch no problems. Had an issue with Yakuza Like a Dragon, but when I disabled it, it worked just fine.
As soon as I saw it, the first thought I had was:
"What is this, budget Synthetik 2?"
I like it enough, but the travel is just terrible. It's so hard to get around and it's boring to do so at the same time. Also, no chainsaw.
I really hope you don't hold the World against the Game only because you personally don't like it. There are people who enjoy being in a Neon Cyberpunky World. I know this is your opinion and i hope everyone watching this, knows this as well.
Because you didn't recommend the Game right from the get go. Just something that I felt watching your first 5-8 minutes...
I did state it as a "concern". I don't write a game off from the start just because it's a cyberpunk theme. I just don't think they really do anything with it, and they don't take you to enough environmental variety, and they don't have interesting characters, so all that's left is the cyberpunk aesthetic and that gets depressing without the other stuff to spice it up.
I have one
Sometimes after I reload the gun it doesn't fire, unless I use one specific ability
DID YOU KNOW Vigo Mortenson ACTUALLY broke his toe while kicking a helmet while filming LOTR? LIKE ACTUALLY.
This guy clearly doesn't understand what dystopia is....
The only thing I disagree with is the depressing world being a bad thing. Dark souls is 10x more depressing than cyberpunk and I love jumping into that world. Having a depressing world can be a positive. Just because you wouldn’t want to live in that world doesn’t mean the world is bad for a 40 hour game.
Dark souls also depresses me. But yeah, it doesnt necessarily mean it's bad. You just need gameplay and characters that compliment it.
@@underthemayo That's fair I just don't think the usual generic looter shooter world and a depressing world mix very well.
Funny how you mention the angry characters in CP2077. I felt the exact same thing when playing it...
Why should I keep on playing when every single character I meet says:
"-You're wasting my time."
"-Gonna be long?"
"-Fuck off psycho!"
"-We got a problem?"
"-Back off idiot".
"C'mon get the move on."
Jesus.
"It's punk man, everyone's punk"... Gosh, I really hate 1 dimensional "lol so edgy angry" characters. They're not interesting, and just makes me wanna say "fuck off" right back an never pay attention to them. Where's the oddly chipper person? The delusional person? The nice person you actually wanna interact with in this gloomy world... Or the straight up "What are you on?" type of people...
Honestly I liked this game. Pretty buggy but it’s fun when the game is not blowing up the console.
The particle effects tho
Looks like it was made by michael bay
I agree with you about the Cyberpunk aesthetic. My sister and I kept saying the game looked like a trash heap.
Oh fuck yea man, your reviews are the best, can't think of any better video to watch durning my breakfast
Nice
to add to the dups issue... in most looters even when you do get a dup of a weapon it's almost never exactly the same or it might actually be a better version of the same weapon... so if these dups are exactly the same... idk why didn't think to just give you the credits
Game was amazing in singleplayer, Co-op imo is dumb in these kinds of games and should have been added later.
To me that gun sounds like the suppressor from Halo 4
I agree bro this game was balanced around coop.
I hated the scene were u have to hold out for a 3 minute timer its near impossible solo as you can't hide behind anything long as there's enemies that can jump assault you or fire explosives to make ya move or outflank u with overwhelming amount of enemies you showed it on video this bit made made me ragequit lol
I loved this game so much but I can also agree with the lack of variety in areas to explore.
Watching this just makes me want another Deus Ex to come along and show everyone how its done.
me too, but this game has nothing to do with deus ex
Your description of the setting reminded me of why I don't like playing Fallout games.
I don’t think the cyberpunk aesthetics agrees with you
For a few levels, it would be awesome. Not 20 hours.
I'm just not really a fan of everything in menus being all strobe lighting and red, I didin't like it in Cyberpunk 2077 either. I just find it hard to read sometimes with the world going supernova with muzzle flashes as well
if you enjoy isometric games like this, back in PS2 there's a Game in the Contra Series titled Neo Contra, it's pretty neat, it has Futuristic Aesthetics but the Environments varies between levels.
I'd recommend it.
if you like twin stick shooters you would probably like synthetik
Honestly this game's pretty good mayo, similarly to your resi 8 review this seems like a you problem
"Just give me the f***ing credits!" YES
you should play Synthetik if you haven't already really good isometric rouguelike with great gunplay.
Thank god I thought I was just stupid. I see everyone praising this game saying its 10/10 when its a 5 at most. The game is fun and personally I find the story pretty enjoyable (although still severely lacking almost everything), however the amount of glitches can reach a point where the game is almost unplayable, for example half the time when I use an ability my gun vanishes from my hands and I can't shoot or weapon swap (this happened to me in that area you were talking about with the insane hordes of ferals). Quests don't work properly to a point where I have to restart the entire game just to examine a certain item or even just progress forward, and some enemies are bullet sponges to the point where literally any boss fight is easier than trying to kill them. The premise and concept of the game are amazing! Sadly the execution of gameplay is what "flatlines" the game.
Part of games is figureing stuff out sometimes. Thats how they used to be. But now we need to be told or we hate them.
Mayo have you ever played RTS games? Like the legendary Blizzard real time strategy games Starcraft and Warcraft III?
3:27 well to be fair what ANY game world would you want to live in?
If you liked dead nation then you have to play alienation..same studio.. challenging fast paced gameplay..has some light rpg mechanics which I know you don't like but the gameplay is frenetic and phenomenal
I got the game with Gamepass, liked it despite the negative parts in it, and completed it. What i hate the most is that a couple of the achievements (codex ones) are bugged since the game came out and they havent been fixed yet 🤷🏻♂️
Great review Mayo, although I have to question your line of argument about "not wanting to live in that world" that you say near the beginning. Maybe I misunderstood the point that you were making, but I don't think fans of particular games like or dislike the environments based on whether or not they would want to live in them.
Worlds like the ones in Dark Souls or Horizon: Zero Dawn for example, are appealing and engaging to behold despite the bleak or post apocalyptic outlook that they portray. And it's being able to explore these worlds that are a far-stretch from reality (for now at least), while knowing we don't really live in them that makes them all the more exciting to discover. Same with many films (although I will admit that I'd never find the world in The Road exciting in any form XD)
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Dude i was looking for this game name for years thank you for mentioning it