Stretch Pentatonic Scales

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  • čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
  • Hey everyone! Here's another episode of Scales & Tales and yet another Pentatonic-related lesson with 'Stretch Pentatonic Scales.' I actually featured some stretch pentatonic ideas in the recent 'Power Of 5' lesson about a week ago, and since that time I've had a number of requests to feature more about this interesting/inspiring concept, and actually this lesson idea has been on the back burner for a while and is long-overdue - so let's dive in!
    This lesson centers around a number of ways to approach grabbing/using what are known as "stretch pentatonic scales." Where we're taking notes from one pentatonic position and adding them with notes from another shape. This combination of scale shapes expands this sound of the scale, opens the door to plenty of experimentation and discovery, and creates numerous frethand challenges along the way - especially for the pinky finger!
    Once the basics are introduced, as far as locating and creating stretch shapes from combining two pentatonic positions, we're continuing this avenue of study by looking at some concepts/ideas from complete legends known for using these ideas in their music - including Michael Schenker, Paul Gilbert, Eddie Van Halen, and even the mighty Allan Holdsworth (yikes!).
    Needless to say, if you're curious about expanding the simple pentatonic scale structure into something more unique and advanced, are one of the viewers that asked for more surrounding this subject, are a player looking for some new ways to play and rework this beyond-common scale, or maybe you're just curious what all the fuss is about - this lesson is totally for you! Give this episode a view, leave some comments/feedback, and please subscribe to Late Night Lessons - THANK YOU!
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Komentáře • 48

  • @Mike-rw2nh
    @Mike-rw2nh Před 2 měsíci +6

    No matter how many times I think I have ‘completed’ pentatonics, someone comes along with a totally fresh take. 11/10 for ST reference too.

    • @beachbarlouie
      @beachbarlouie Před 2 měsíci +1

      I know, What about the Pentatonic Minor Chromatic Blues scale. It is a regular minor blues scale but you add the major third too. And you can use what is left over for passing tones. lol That should cover them all!

    • @Mike-rw2nh
      @Mike-rw2nh Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@beachbarlouie Excellent point! I’ve learned so much from channels like this one, and the respective comments section too. Truly a golden age of sharing ideas. Rob, of the QJamTracks CZcams channel blew my ears wide open with his ‘Exotic Pentatonics’ upload. Between Dave and Rob’s channels, I feel like I’m going through a musical renaissance. 🤯

  • @thewayithastobe
    @thewayithastobe Před 2 měsíci +4

    Shawn Lane's rhythmic groupings on pentatonics is amazing

  • @billyknowdownside5026
    @billyknowdownside5026 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Holdsworth Shirt is so Apprwipo! You are sharing the knowledge in the best way. Just guitar, just notes, simplistic lesson, perfectly conveyed. Thanks

  • @karmadave
    @karmadave Před 2 měsíci +2

    Takes a lot of work to get the pinky stretch. Best to take it slow at first and gradually build up speed. It can sound a bit mechanical unless mixed with more melodic phrases. Michael Schenker does this better than anyone else in my humble opinion. Thanks for another great lesson and application of the pentatonic scale! 🤩

  • @Kurtis-Schubert
    @Kurtis-Schubert Před 2 měsíci +4

    These lessons are really fun and interesting! Thanks!

  • @uncleremus5046
    @uncleremus5046 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Love the fusion sound of the 3 note per string pentatonics! I got hooked early on Holdsworth phrasing & Don Mock!

  • @SharjeelAhson
    @SharjeelAhson Před 2 měsíci +7

    Huge fan! From Pakistan!

  • @PawpawJamz
    @PawpawJamz Před 2 měsíci +2

    Really digging the deep dives into the penta, lately. The scale that truly never dies.🤘

  • @tomcox875
    @tomcox875 Před 2 měsíci +3

    perfect timing. Just sat down with my guitar.

  • @sakuraorigami
    @sakuraorigami Před 2 měsíci +1

    Seen and heard Holdsworth take advantage of the unison Pentatonic notes many times. Thanks for breaking these concepts down.

  • @StrangeAngel66
    @StrangeAngel66 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Cool saw ZAKK in the mix👍
    I know all five shapes of the Pentatonix and I’m starting to learn to convert them to natural Pentatonix because of you🙂
    TY

  • @Jackie_Rosewood
    @Jackie_Rosewood Před 2 měsíci +2

    Awesome lessons David🤘🏻🎸 Can’t wait to add these to my practicing!!

  • @stanparchaiski5394
    @stanparchaiski5394 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the lessons. They are truly great and really expand my range on the fretboard.

  • @bestboy897
    @bestboy897 Před 2 měsíci +1

    You're killing it with the vids recently

  • @glenmiller4995
    @glenmiller4995 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Hey David, thanks for clarifying this for me, another guitarist was trying to show me some of this stuff a couple of years ago and I just didn't get it, this is great material!

  • @MarkEdward-bl6cr
    @MarkEdward-bl6cr Před 2 měsíci +1

    Another cool lesson David thanks 👏👍🤘🎸

  • @n34z3r
    @n34z3r Před 2 měsíci

    LOVE this channel. Thank you for all that you share!! Continued success brother

  • @CRP2426
    @CRP2426 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Thanks!
    Would like to see a lesson on Diagonal pentatonic runs. Something similar to EJ & Bonamassa mixed with Pat Martino.

    • @LateNightLessons
      @LateNightLessons  Před 2 měsíci +3

      What you need is The Pentatonic Highway.
      Do a search on my channel for "The Pentatonic Highway" and you'll find two lesson from a few years ago that tackle this topic/subject.
      Dive in and have fun!
      Thanks!

    • @CRP2426
      @CRP2426 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@LateNightLessons will Do, Thanks!

  • @fabghassem
    @fabghassem Před 2 měsíci +1

    Heavy material right there, it’s gonna take some serious work to run these mixes stuff up & down; thanks for sharing them Dave…cheers🖋️🎸💯

    • @LateNightLessons
      @LateNightLessons  Před 2 měsíci +2

      Hey and don't forget you can move this stuff higher (to make it easier to grab) and once you get a hang of it and your hand gets used to it, then you can move them down and stretch further.
      Move higher on the neck, go slow, and eventually you'll get them.
      Good luck!

  • @cravertom
    @cravertom Před 2 měsíci +2

    great lesson...much appreciated.

  • @suzannecoholic1467
    @suzannecoholic1467 Před 2 měsíci +2

    pretty cool! thanks Dave!

  • @greg77hot
    @greg77hot Před 2 měsíci +2

    Great Lesson Dave...How about some Randy Bachman or John Frusciante ?

  • @user-tv7dk8ly3f
    @user-tv7dk8ly3f Před 2 měsíci

    You’ve been on fire this week mate, the last three pentatonic videos have been amazing! Amazing playing. Thank you!

  • @gergemall
    @gergemall Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thank you David ! ❤

  • @mikeivey8471
    @mikeivey8471 Před 2 měsíci

    Fabulous lesson !!! Thank you !!!

  • @StratCatStrut1974
    @StratCatStrut1974 Před 2 měsíci

    Thanks 4 the Lesson Dave.... I only have one question? "Can you please send me your hand synchronization for Christmas this year!!! Dude you play with such fluidity and ease. Clean and clear 👍 Really frustrates the hell out of me that I have been playing on my guitar since I was 20 and I'm 50 now and not even close to that kind of movement!!!! HELP HELP HELP

  • @ey870
    @ey870 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Awesome lesson, thanks dude

  • @coalfacechris1336
    @coalfacechris1336 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Fantastic lesson again. The stretch ideas are very akin to Frank Gambale's Pentatonic shapes he uses by combining adjacent boxes for sweeping. After this lesson trifecta David, one thing that struck me was leaning the new box is made difficult as guitarists have trouble visualizing intervals. Is identifying and visualizing intervals a basis for a future lesson?

  • @thewayithastobe
    @thewayithastobe Před 2 měsíci +1

    Also nice scallop picking

  • @beachbarlouie
    @beachbarlouie Před 2 měsíci

    Yeah dude. I really appreciate your effort. Good stuff.

  • @curtpozzi5527
    @curtpozzi5527 Před 2 měsíci

    As Paul Gilbert puts it about pentatonics, " The scale that never dies!" The backbone, framework or scaffle of the scales in western music theory that we use.

  • @mikesparks3398
    @mikesparks3398 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Nice!

  • @badtonestudio
    @badtonestudio Před 2 měsíci

    Great lesson! How about some Doug Aldrich stretchy stuff?

  • @jamesrobinson529
    @jamesrobinson529 Před 2 měsíci

    This may blow your mind if you haven't heard of it; you can use the R, 3, #4, 5 & 7 of Lydian (Lydian Pentatonic). You can do the same with Locrian ( R, b3, 4, b5, b7)....and Ionian (R, 3, 4, 5, 7). #stretchcitybaby

  • @specfever2
    @specfever2 Před 2 měsíci

    Admission/Disclaimer: I've been noodling for quite a while and have never put any serious practice into this.
    But, I've got big hands (I think). 10.25 inches from thumbtip to pinkytip when opened wide. Yet, when I try that combo Dm-two-position scale, I can't believe your pinky just sits up there all natural like!!! My pinky suddenly looks like it belongs to a small hand!!! :)

  • @lonely-lockley3712
    @lonely-lockley3712 Před 2 měsíci +1

    please more buckethead!!

  • @breathtimebreath4934
    @breathtimebreath4934 Před 2 měsíci +2

    🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏

  • @EvelynAutumnMusic
    @EvelynAutumnMusic Před 2 měsíci +2

    yeeeeeeee

  • @djangog2770
    @djangog2770 Před 2 měsíci

    Can you do a lesson or 2 on zakk wylde?

    • @knightfall9394
      @knightfall9394 Před 2 měsíci

      He already did czcams.com/video/-OKPpFV4Eqo/video.htmlsi=SXrGz8Do4yWXNMTl

  • @janezimmerman7987
    @janezimmerman7987 Před 2 měsíci +1

    A large percentage of players will find it uncomfortable to the point of uselessness to deal with stretch pentatonics where the root is at the 6th or lower fret 6th/1st string.

    • @LateNightLessons
      @LateNightLessons  Před 2 měsíci +3

      That's a good point, and once you've reached the limit of your frethand stretching ability - don't forget about tapping.
      Eddie Van Halen admitted several times that when he couldn't quite stretch to hit some of the sounds he heard Holdsworth playing, he started tapping those higher notes to grab those wider intervallic sounds.
      So if you can't stretch it - tap it!
      Good luck and ROCK ON!

    • @janezimmerman7987
      @janezimmerman7987 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@LateNightLessons EVH might not have had Holdsworth's large stretch but he still had decent span. Of course, his most famous stretchy was the 12 to 19 stretch in Beat It, Ice Cream Man, and a few others. I might be mistaken but I think that width (equivalent to 5 to ~10) was about the extent of what he used on stage. But he could absolutely nail it. He wasn't a very big guy at all. In my humble book, he's the king despite there being more technically advanced players. He was a pure and true musician.
      But I digressed. Yes, go for what you can however you can. It's all good snd should be fun.