I just got quoted 1200. Dollars for three hours labor replacing an oem radiator and water pump which l bought a supplied for the job.the estimated labor was 3 hours, here in cali it works out to 400.00 an hour. Went somewhere else and paid 700.00
Most of the time shops are finishing jobs way faster than the hourly rate. Brakes are a great example. I can do a set of brakes in my driveway with no power tools in 30-45 mins. Shop will charge you two hours labor and finish the job in 20 mins. That is the reality.
This is life what most people fail to realize it took me 30 years to learn to do the job in twenty minutes, efficiently and safely, without the possibility of a come back issue.
I've worked at almost a dozen shops. Your average tech is not racing to do a brake job in 20 minutes and you really shouldn't encourage it considering how important they are. And at my shop we have a torque wrench policy on all safety items. All those shops I worked at charged 1 to 1.5 hours per axle. That includes burnishing the pads.
A hourly book rate is based on a new vehicle right off the show room floor… Book rate on a 10 year old rig that has 200k on it is setting your self up for failure… I’ve spent as much time as book rate says on some items just breaking loose rusted bolts and dealing with already rounded off bolts… Every shop around here that charges book rate is 170-190 a hour…
Good point, with my 77 Camaro I had to break most of the bolts in the suspension because they were rusted. It took longer than expected. Now I see my 77 Camaro and take a deep breath before I work on it.
Fantastic video. I'm on the same page . In our industry there so many different cars exp. I know German cars .and I don't work on American cars lol. A little easier the cars you know .
Thank you sir! Now, I understand where is my confusion. The double works! For example, when you go to the dealer for brake service, they can "suggest" you to replace rotors and pads at the same time, and this is when they can double their works at one serivce!
No, it's just good practice to replace rotors and pads at the same time. If you don't have the time customer will come back complaining of a brake squeak or the rotors will start to warp and get shaky.
If you buy the oem parts yourself and just putting these back on it should not be double billed,you are just doing the labor to finish the job,here in CA. Its not 100$ an hour it's 400.00 an hour.l was quoted 1200.00 dollars for a radiator and water pump replacement with me supplying the oem parts,Denso radiator and water pump on a 2.4 1997 tacoma.l saved 500.00 going somewhere else
And they also send yall back to school for updating right? to learn new systems and stuff.think they also hire young bucks and teach them and send them to schools also.
Yeah they double charge. They charged me just labor $470 for an axle, tie rod, ball joint, axle seal and caliper. I thought labor rate per hour means labor rate per hours. They work on your vehicle and fix whatever and charge for the hours, instead they itemize every work done. Even though each work took less than 30 minutes
I just got quoted 1200. Dollars for three hours labor replacing an oem radiator and water pump which l bought a supplied for the job.the estimated labor was 3 hours, here in cali it works out to 400.00 an hour. Went somewhere else and paid 700.00
Most of the time shops are finishing jobs way faster than the hourly rate. Brakes are a great example. I can do a set of brakes in my driveway with no power tools in 30-45 mins. Shop will charge you two hours labor and finish the job in 20 mins. That is the reality.
The other reality is a job that is 6 hours takes 9!
This is life what most people fail to realize it took me 30 years to learn to do the job in twenty minutes, efficiently and safely, without the possibility of a come back issue.
@@ThePurposedWright no kidding, i replaced a 2022 ford bronco engine under warranty paid like 15 hrs and took 3 hard days of work
I've worked at almost a dozen shops. Your average tech is not racing to do a brake job in 20 minutes and you really shouldn't encourage it considering how important they are. And at my shop we have a torque wrench policy on all safety items. All those shops I worked at charged 1 to 1.5 hours per axle. That includes burnishing the pads.
That’s right your paying for the experience and the warranty you get with the parts
That was so clear. Thank you.
Amen brother, blessings to you
Great video 5 star🌟 information Thanks. 🙏🏿
And that’s why you learn to do the work yourself
you are 100% right.
Excellent information infused with the Lord's word.
So should our lives be. Love you my friend
Hope every customer sees this
Can’t tell you how many times a job that pays for an hour takes 3. Just my 2 cents.
A hourly book rate is based on a new vehicle right off the show room floor… Book rate on a 10 year old rig that has 200k on it is setting your self up for failure… I’ve spent as much time as book rate says on some items just breaking loose rusted bolts and dealing with already rounded off bolts… Every shop around here that charges book rate is 170-190 a hour…
Good point, with my 77 Camaro I had to break most of the bolts in the suspension because they were rusted. It took longer than expected. Now I see my 77 Camaro and take a deep breath before I work on it.
It is being 15 + year since I have not seen a mechanic bcause they made me learn to be a mechanic.
Amen 🙏 Tools!!!
Fantastic video. I'm on the same page . In our industry there so many different cars exp. I know German cars .and I don't work on American cars lol. A little easier the cars you know .
30k in tools, 50k StrapOn tool box, and 20k over charge for the StrapOn logo on the wrenches and screwdrivers. Steve
I live in Michigan with a Cadillac eldorado lol
Thank you sir! Now, I understand where is my confusion. The double works! For example, when you go to the dealer for brake service, they can "suggest" you to replace rotors and pads at the same time, and this is when they can double their works at one serivce!
No, it's just good practice to replace rotors and pads at the same time. If you don't have the time customer will come back complaining of a brake squeak or the rotors will start to warp and get shaky.
If you buy the oem parts yourself and just putting these back on it should not be double billed,you are just doing the labor to finish the job,here in CA. Its not 100$ an hour it's 400.00 an hour.l was quoted 1200.00 dollars for a radiator and water pump replacement with me supplying the oem parts,Denso radiator and water pump on a 2.4 1997 tacoma.l saved 500.00 going somewhere else
And they also send yall back to school for updating right? to learn new systems and stuff.think they also hire young bucks and teach them and send them to schools also.
Craftsman sells tools. Lifetime warranty, too. :)
Sometimes there to thick and can’t fit into the tight spaces of the cars. I buy cheap when I can buy sometimes you cant
Also craftsman’s wrenches are made of softer material which can give and round off fasteners
Wrong, that's not how they calculate a repair. First they jack up the cost of the parts then they squeeze out as much as they can for labor.
You clearly don't know what you're talking about.
@@Carlitosway211 he knows, you don’t.
They also itemize every work done on the car per hourly rate. So their hourly rate don’t mean jack if they itemize every operation
@@SL-pg4dh It's obvious neither one of you own a repair shop. Typical layman standing on the outside looking in thinking you have a clue.
Begging for reply.... double paying..... i need A strut,an upper control arm and a rack & pinion . They said 400 for labor all on the same wheel??
Yeah they double charge. They charged me just labor $470 for an axle, tie rod, ball joint, axle seal and caliper. I thought labor rate per hour means labor rate per hours. They work on your vehicle and fix whatever and charge for the hours, instead they itemize every work done. Even though each work took less than 30 minutes
Book rate is assuming perfect ideal conditions with no issues along the way.... L O L! WORK ON A 6+YR. OLD SALT BELT CAR... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nah dawg cut corners. Make money screw the customer jk jk all jokes aside