Do Side Kicks Actually Work??? Sensei Seth vs Gabriel Varga
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
- Sensei Seth - the man the myth the legend, attempts to defend to pros of side kicks while I point out the very noticeable cons. Be sure to stay tuned to the end of the episode where I demonstrate how to properly trap Sensei Seth's side kick.
Please be sure to check out Sensei Seth's channel. He has some fantastic content: / senseiseth
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08:30 Sensei Seth realizing he's been put in the same sentence with Wonder boy and Raymond Daniels. 😂
I love that you guys are all doing videos together. This is an incredible series and I don't want it to end!
Agreed!
Absolutely!
Agreed. These are the most helpful CZcamsrs in this area. Glad to see them collaborate.
Same!
Its a dream come true
One of the greatest crossovers of all time
I'm ready for an explosion of comments defending the side kick 😊
Please be sure to watch the whole episode and my con points on the side kick before freaking out.
And check out the end of the episode. I got Sensei Seth's leg and I'm not giving it back 😈
Who would do that ?😆
I’m sure no one would and can argue. But sidekick knockouts will always be awesome
I don't deny that it has its limitations, but a landed side kick to the body/hip/legs hurts badly. I do believe in the limitations, but are you REALLY catching side kicks when a good fighter is mixing up their techniques and not throwing a slow controlled technique 🤔
Also a full power side kick to the forearms does not sound pleasent...
I use side kicks and for me it is useful, but I use practically only one version which is a counter attack with the front leg going towards the opponent Because if he's closer the jumping back kick is better
I am sure you know better than me. You can always faint the left low kick to draw the side kick in, then parry and kick the leg. But then he may recognise that and throw hook kick instead. It’s definitely not easy or simple to deal with as wonderboy demonstrated against some of the best.
So happy to see Gabriel interact with other Martial Arts CZcamsrs. It's been awesome seeing him on so many channels this week. I hope he can collab with Jeff Chan one day.
Bro him sparring jeff chan would be AMAZING
@@Crunchy166 Both are beasts. Jeff is great, I used to train in the same gym with him around 10 years ago, he's goooood. He taught boxing and kickboxing there as well.
I really want to know what Icy Mike wanted to say at 0:55 😂
"Sidekicks don't work" would be my guess
0:50 Such a comical background character. :)))
Time to assemble the group soon!
Collab with Wonderboy, he's super down to earth
I will definitely be doing that in the future.
Almost never see it in kickboxing, but you see them in MMA quite a bit.
The Chinese kickboxers use the side kick a lot.
It occasionally works but I'm still not a believer in using it for everyone.
@@GabrielVargaOfficial good luck on your next kc fight!
Yes its great in MMA because it can set up offense to the head like a hook kick you dont know whats coming.Example Chito Vera vs Rob Font , that side kick won him the fight ,countered Fonts jab and dropped him with the Hook kick multiple times .In kickboxing its not woth it , its easier to defend with the gloves and a roudhouse scores more in the judgea eyes and rightfully so fighters dont use it.
@@18Hands it's true, Bennie the jet and so many others used it well. I used it quite fine in my younger days, but now I'm old, I don't generate power in that way anymore due to knee injuries. Now I prefer all kinds of front kicks. A side kick to the belly, stomach or solar plexus, is very effective, but we need to be fast, flexible, and use it in the right timing and situation.
@@GabrielVargaOfficial - I actually did a short video on a sidekick setup I learnt from Sanda, which you might find interesting: czcams.com/video/9SbY-Zc8j9M/video.html
Your Collab with RKM gym is probably my favorite series so far. No egos, just a bunch of guys learning and sharing knowledge from each other.
My karate coach says: side kicks are for kicking sideways. Meaning: if you happen to be standing sideways to someone that's coming at you, you can keep them at distance with the side kick so you can reset. But turning to the side just to do a side kick, or standing sideways to begin with - not really a thing in that particular style.
Precisely.
Next step is orientating yourself sideways towards someone (originally) in front of you, e. g. with a circular motion. Could be on purpose, i. e. in a combination, or because you swung and missed and then naturally follow up with a side kick.
But outside of sports fighting, being attacked from the side is a far more realistic situation.
This exactly. It's the same thing as a spin kick. If you take a big step to "invert" and then throw the spin you're going to miss 9/10 times. But if you miss something else or for some reason end up inverted in relation to your opponent, then throw a spin kick.
Side kick is the same thing. It's usually not going to work if you're changing your stance just to throw the side kick, but if/when you end up in that position the side kick is great.
just like BJJ, you only need it when something doesnt go according to plan lol
Exactly
I do Taekwondo, and the side or bladed stance feels just as comfortable as the front stance; your stances and kicks should be ambidextrous. Like others have said, there's a time and place for every kick, but you CAN deliberately use different stances instead of only "if something happens". Whether your opponent is a tank or a striker, if you can comfortably constantly flow between different stances you'll throw them off and have a definitive upper hand; you'll also have distance control. Making your opponent fight at the edge of his range is my favorite, as they tend to get mad and over extend and leave things open - which for me are big targets lol
I was just trying to make Seth feel comfortable. Sidekicks don't work!
It's fun to see MA coaches/senseis with professional fighters - the experience of hard pressure testing techniques brings a whole new set of perspectives.
I love this conversations between my most followed fighting CZcamsrs but man Gabe is Levels above them. Cause he speaks with experince
I think it's more important to be comfortable in the situations where you get crowded. If you're in the pocket and you can't move back or out, you're going to have to adjust to the situation. You either square up and exchange or square up to fight yourself out to regain position. Side kick is a tool and it's more important to know when to use it, than to always use it.
Side kick is my favorite kick to throw against people over zealous at charging or that punch a lot! It's a really sneaky counter that can be used when people think they "gotcha!" And I'm like "nope, now right now at least!"
I like all kicks.. I practice a lot of different types of kicks. Quick low snap kicks, Strong low kicks, low crescent kicks, low spins. To the front, to the side. Back kicks, heel stomps, reverse spin kicks.. Laying on the ground kicking a standing target.. Getting up and kicking. When I was young I used to get as low as I could and leap as high as I could and throw different kicks in variations. Even Donkey kicks but that's not something you'd see in mma. As Steve's pointed out and I 100% agree, it's about when you use them. Their are the kicks that I call the risk vs rewards kicks, the ones that take long to get off no matter how fast you are, yeah it might connect, but more often the person would get a swift snap kick to the face and down. They're still good kicks and people should learn them, practice them, but they have to know what really works against a good fighter and what works for them.
I get fucked at that range if I'm not allowed elbows . If I am I spoke lead then right then post back to long guard where nobody is fast enough to hit me and can just keep landing hard sing counters .
That’s something I notice a lot in the gym - guys who come from karate or tkd backgrounds tend to do well enough on the outside, but struggle a lot against inside pressure.
@@JaredClaunch That's about their mentality as fighters. Footwork is very important but people forget things when they fight. I've always been a fighter and I'll kick someone in the shin like a girl but a lot harder lol and then stomp their feet while charging in if I have too. My brother used to charge into me with his shoulder and body and headbutt me at the same time to stop me from kicking him.
I wrestled with my 2 brothers and when I got older he was always attacking me, like not just brotherly fights, the first fight I ever had he choked me out and left me unconscious in a pool of my own blood, I was 10 years old. I haven't lost a fight since. And he'd attack me a lot. I took tkd at 10, but it wasn't until Matsubayashi Ryu as Senpai at 15 did I learn quick power techniques that allowed me to put real ooomph and speed behind every one of my hits.
I'm also a good dancer, like more than line dancing dancing, my younger bro and I, we used to do like Kid and Play dances and routines for people at high school dances and breakdancing stuff and they'd go nuts over it, especially when we'd do it to Abba or something.. So I'm very comfortable with low kicks and sweeps and transitional kicks.
Stepping in and using just your movement to throw you opponent off as a strike and situating your legs to protect yourself. It doesn't have to hurt but it can push them off balance enough to make your strike even more effective.
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Great video. The biggest pro for sidekicks if you're good at them is that people training kickboxing are often not good at dealing with them 😂
Also if you're doing light contact, point, or full contact without Lowick rulesets, a lot of the cons are smaller. So people should take what they compete in up to consideration.
Now that I think about it, how do you even defend a nicely set up fast side kick?
By kneeing the shin or leg?
That's the only response I could come up with 😂
@@remyhavoc4463 normally footwork works well, but you need to angle out if you're opponent can do multiple sliding sidekicks. Timing is also quite important. You could just sidekick yourself as well.
But yeah sidekick works really well for scoring points, and in many formats you lose too many points if you just decide to eat them.
Alol,@Hard2Hurt just said the side kick was one of his favorite kicks.
I like the side kick as another option/weapon, but when in the pocket it's important to be proficient with other tools.
Great convo! I find side kicks effective to recover from a missed roundhouse kick. If the opponent moves backward and I kick the air, I bounce back with a side kick (or back kick) to intercept any upcoming attack. Also it works with opponents that like to attack from angles.
I'm enjoying these collabs so much!! Keep up the great work Gabriel! :)
I frickin love these collabos! Just a bunch of genuinely nice guys, geeking out around martial arts. And then there’s Gabriel, to break down the dreams 😂 I was laughing so hard at the last part, how Seth couldn’t get his foot out at all and you just smiled 😁
Great video and fantastic discussion about the side kick!
Great video Gabriel, very informative. I love the discussion with Sensei Seth and the respect and the learning mindset of everyone involved.
Gabriel. I have been following you for years on social media, and Hard 2 hurt & Sensei Seth for about a year. I is really great to see you three collab together. Made my day.
Love all these collabs mate
Positive respectful exchange with no ego, it helps everyone keep it coming Gabriel!
Much love to all the channels involved in these collaborations. Anyways, in regards to Wushu, Wushu is divided into two categories; Sanda (formerly San Shou) which is the kickboxing and wrestling aspects of Wushu and Toulu which is the forms and judged like kata in Karate.
What a great episode! Thank you guys✌🏼
Great video. Very educational and it just great to see martial artists exchanging knowledge humbly.
I like the side kick but I don't throw it often. If I see a window to use it I will take it. A side kick landing flush on the solar plexus is super effective, but it takes a perfect set up. I once accidentally knocked the wind out of a sparing partner with a 20-30% power side kick. I baited him into a cross and as his torso was square with me I popped my heel right into his breathing muscle. it was great, but I have not been able to pull it off since lol.
Thank you coach👏
I greatly appreciate these series. Best thing on Yt right now.
Good to see you guys together
Great vid!
It's good to see martial arts CZcamsrs make Collab and sharing their knowledge for us.
Nice vid, also like the team effort in it, matching styls point of view etc :)
Great video! I really like Sensei Seth’s teaching style and his reasoning.
love to see everybody colaborating
I just wanna say I love all you guys hanging out together making videos. It’s like “Great Adventures at the Martial Arts Clubhouse.”
Great breakdown guys! All perspectives are worth considering at this level. This channel is very helpful for all practitioners. Osu
the first point is really valid,.. yet avoidable if you have a good high,fast chamber, and the coordination to go full pivot and while doing it you release the kick when is aligned with your oponent you can totally throw it from a more square stance. ( thats part of why i love the side kick, because it can look like you are throwing a round house but it suddenly transforms)
great stuff guys
Great discourse! 4:16 Thanks for mentioning Wushu and Sanda! 🙂
My favorite set up for this in kickboxing or M.T is off of a big roundhouse or missed kick, you’ll end up in a bladed stance and this can either be a great setup or follow through when missing. Depending on who I’m sparring I add a lil delay to the opponent to throw them off. If they try evading but don’t get out far enough I add the extra pendulum step or shuffle and kick them long range.
There are levels. There are youtubers, even pretty good ones, like Seth, and there are world class fighters, like Gabriel. Love the video, you guys rock.
Love these guys
Gabriel your stance and guard are as close to perfect for your style as it can possible get. For k1 this is the gold standard, its so betutifull to watch for people that really watch a lot of fights. Looking forward to watch you more in Karate Combat
love these
Great Video as always sir, welcome to the League of CZcams martial arts content creators, enjoyed all the crossovers/collabs. I'm from a JKD background and I really appreciate the insights as the sidekick is one of the main technique that we really drill a lot. I was hoping you guys would tackle the stop/side kick to the knee so we could have a perspective on how MMA/kickboxing guys would deal with it.
Omg all my favorite combat athletes collaborating!!!
Such an awesome group
Excellent presentation. Many years ago when I competed I used a hop side kick to throw my opponent off balance and frustrate them. It's a very safe technique because you're closing distance rapidly and there's a good deal of power behind it. It made them think twice about moving forward and allowed me to set the pace when I wanted to slow things down.
great video
Why stance must be always the same in a fight?
Why change stances as you change your punchs, kicks, elbows and knees is wrong?
Side stance is better in long range and squared stance in short range, simple like this
*I'm brazilian using a translator
its not wrong, its just doing two completly different things which is hard to get good at both
@@josemeneses5173 yep, exactly this
@@josemeneses5173 Practice leads to perfection
Nice little team in that episode!
0:50 Mike wanted to say something there.
These collaborations should be a yearly tradition.
I like the last tip more than the whole video 😂, I'm gonna try it surely in sparring, had a problem with catching push kick, didn't know that's the key
Will there be any sparring vids with you and the guys Gabriel? Love your vids btw
I love these videos
Beautiful defence against the rechambering sidekick by Gabriel at 9:27 - 9:37 !
Gabriel is as deadly as he is respectful 😅
LLove the end!!!
I think it can be useful within a wider strategy. With more elements added to the set ups.
@0.54 .. alright im coming back... no no no no :D :D
Ahhh the good ol side kicks debate. Bring out the popcorn!!!
Nice chemistry you all got going
🙂I have a totally different opinion from Seith however I do use sidekicks often because after missing a right hook or right kick I end up on side stance and usually my opponent will think perfect time to counter and that's perfect timing for me to throw the sidekick... 😁😁
Plus... I forgot to mention I use sidekicks a lot to the knee of the opponent.
For a good example of Sidekicks efficiency watch Jon Jones sidekicks the knees of its opponents... Its so dangerous.
I agree with you, I also use it in these situations.
Love when Gabriel catches that last sidekick and keeps it locked so Seth can't pull it out or kick off 💯🥊
Gabriel, you have truly stayed a student of your fighting art.
If you put your hands on the floor as you use IcyMike’s close range side/back kick, it becomes a Taido technique.
It adds more force because you’re using your glutes & hamstrings while bracing with your upper body to either push into the kick or roll away.
All while keeping your head off the centerline of course.
Edit: It’s called the Shrimp Kick from Taido. Jesse Enkamp did a video on it.
Greatest crossover ever
I was sparring yesterday and landed the side kick a few times. I used it as a recovery tool after a missed round house rather than a primary weapon.
Good vid
Mike's face and shrug in the back at 0:53 killed me 🤣
“Don’t fight him” he says. That pro tip right there. Haha
I love mike at the start, goes to say something, then leaves it😂
the bladed stance is also helpful in dealing with grapplers.
As a Sanda practitioner I can confirm we love Side-kicks!
Icy Mike in the background at the beginning cracked me up
The big factor is whether you're working with a boundary. It's really hard to keep moving laterally, so you're prone to getting cornered. Case in point, Wonderboy is probably the most prolific user in MMA(where the boundary has the biggest impact on fights) while having some of the most diligent cage craft and lateral movement. For most, it will be too narrow of a situation to create/exploit regularly.
The best examples of the karate stance is stephen thompson, conor mcgregor, and henry cejudo. Stephen is very kick heavy and evasive. Conor shows how it works with boxing. Being an evasive counter presure fighter. And henry uses karate to help set up his wrestling.
To add on to what mike said you could also use a Yoko geri keage (side snap kick that's uses the ridge of the foot as the point of contact) it's used really high in sports karate now days but it original is meant so to be a lower kick at close range
If you are in the pocket and like sidekicks hooks are your best friend. In the pocket you will want your guard up and be more square. But throwing the hook punch will help you get sideways again. This is an old Bill Superfoot Wallace trick, you can find videos of him teaching it at seminars.
Gabriel ur a legend.
Icy mike in the background on 0.50 secs is just funny😂😂
As for someone who did allot of taekwondo growing up and ended up doing muay thai and boxing the side kick was my go to kick whenever I feel like I need to use my foot as a jab and having a gym full of clinchers and "pure" thai specialist it was great because growing up people always told me taekwondo kicks won't work but it does as long as your thai style is good and for someone who is focusing in western boxing and still fighting muay thai it does help me allot but when I train muay thai I try to do more knees and clinching
feint the sidekicks into hook kicks/ roundhouse kicks. It keeps the guard moving.
I sometimes like to throw my side kick as more of a turning teep/pushkick. Allows for a little more range and power and throws off peoples timing a bit as well.
Huge tip I picked up. They only work in an open stance. you have to use rear leg or spin in a close stance. Otherwise it's just better to front kick
Gabriel, I would love to see you fight Superbon👍
You guys are having way too much fun without me. ;-)
Those delts are lookin money, Gabe
I fight using a more squared stance most of the time, and I love the side kick. I transition to it from faking a front kick. Bring the knee up for a front kick, roll the heel, turn the hip, the knee comes across, and fire. Really smooth motion if you practice it. Hits HARD.
You can use side kick from a squared stance, just set up with round house kick and if it miss throw side kick from the same leg
Ahhh was waiting for you to talk about sickicks to the legs
Icy mike always gets his Cameo in
Every collab at Icy Mike's Gym he pops up out of nowhere. I can't stand it! 🤣