Old Captain America Watched the Avengers This ENTIRE Time
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Fans of the Marvel Cinematic Universe know that Steve Rogers is one of a kind. . .or is he? This hero experienced time travel at numerous points during “Avengers: Endgame,” and we saw him co-existing less than peacefully with his past self at the Battle of New York. So were there multiple versions of Captain America existing simultaneously on the MCU timeline? Some fans seem to think so, and even the writers confirmed that’s what they were going for. Even if he stayed in the background while his crime fighting friends saved the day again and again, we’ve still seen evidence of his existence thanks to Peggy Carter. Was Steve Rogers the mysterious husband we learned about in “The Winter Soldier?” We’ll go over the evidence supporting this theory and how this hero could have lived knowing what was going to happen with the Mad Titan Thanos in the future. Old Cap may have gone on quite the journey without ever leaving his primary timeline or informing any of his friends.
What do you think about the legitimacy of this particular fan theory? Do you think there were really two versions of this legendary hero this whole time or is that just way too far-fetched for you to believe? Let us know what you think in the comment section and don’t forget to click on the subscribe button and turn on your notifications for more new videos from us here at CBR.
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Captain America after getting married: “I can do this all night”
Lmao
@@SemihSoysal09 lol
No
their first fight: who really has America's ass?
LoL
He learned how to be invisible from drax. He was there the whole time. He just didn't move so you couldn't see him.
LMAO THIS MADE MY DAY
HAHAHAH THIS IS THE BEST COMMENT IVE EVER SEEN
You could in captain marvel
I just made a theory about when in the end of the movie end game when captain America went in the time machine some parts of the movie the first avenger would have not existed if he didnt go back in time and I think he explained to her that he went back in time that's why he returned old and that's why theres no pictures with him with his kids so he can keep his identity hidden that's why she said even when he died he was still changing my life she already knew about the 70 year ice thing she just stayed quiet so events in time when he returns to her never changes 😶😶🤯🤯BTW WHERE AND WHO IS HIS KIDS NOW?
There was a character named drax. Wtf how did i miss this!? 🤯🤯
Just as Hulk said...his past became his future. When Steve met Peggy at hospital, she already knew everything but did not tell younger Steve.
yea which also explains her dementia as well as she experienced interacting with two steves in her life.
I just made a theory about when in the end of the movie end game when captain America went in the time machine some parts of the movie the first avenger would have not existed if he didnt go back in time and I think he explained to her that he went back in time that's why he returned old and that's why theres no pictures with him with his kids so he can keep his identity hidden that's why she said even when he died he was still changing my life she already knew about the 70 year ice thing she just stayed quiet so events in time when he returns to her never changes 😶😶🤯🤯BTW WHERE AND WHO IS HIS KIDS NOW?
@@imK4no same theory bro!
This is what the time line is about…
What this marvel shows that as long u dont mess with the time line u re all right.
If u mess it up look at back to the future,terminator,the time machine n other time line movie.
They change it the past.they give spoiler.
Meanwhile,steve doesn’t change anything he carefully does thing without anyone noticing him…
Including his photo family wit peggy.
Why?cuz shield will notice especially nick.
But she kept the rogers photo it at the office all the time.
Massage here:dont mess with timeline.
This cuz he knows everything is okay at the future n another him will do the journey he gone through.
This is bull shit that fanboys make to tell themselves that it made sense
It was fan service.
He ended up in another timeline and should have never have come back to this timeline. Even the directors said so
But it was good fan service so it's all good
It makes sense, Peggy, being agent, was good a keeping secrets and she could have easily created a new identity for Steve. I agree that it must have been hard to let history happen without interference but Cap understands strategy and sacrifice to achieve the final outcome.
That means Cap pumped his own grand daughter? The shield agent? Nice
@@bigshirley8658 lol
@@bigshirley8658 yes u can put "incest" as a tagline on Civil War movie
sharon carter: “aunt peggy kept many secrets”
So , when he returned, He just left her alone again??
He knew what happened in endgame and didn’t spoil it,what a great guy
all he had to do was not tell Ruffalo and the secret was safe.
Tom Holland has left the chat.
@@Ultra-Instinct lmao
@@Ultra-Instinct
*Tom Holland has posted spoilers in the chat*
@Luis Not really it’s one timeline in 14 million timeline but there’s infinite timeline meaning there’s also infinite timeline where Thanos loses.
How is this even a question, who do you think was throwing his shield back constantly?
lol 😂
LMAO
😂 I always wondered how he got it back thanks!! 😂
🙏🏾 😂
Bruh😂
His return to the past to live out his life with Peggy was his idea of retirement, imo. He knew their was another him out there and knew how things would go, so he had no reason to get involved a second time.
I understand that but he could've just move on and build a life with sharon or someone else just not with peggy
@@JuanGonzalez-wu3he Don't be that guy,Let it go
I feel this has a connection with Black Widows adoptive dad. He did mention that he fought Captain America at one point and then someone else said he was in the ice (which he was).
yeah you got a point
I wondered who else would notice that
That's what I'm saying. The Red Guardian actually fought the Old Captain America while the other was still frozen. He didn't have any reason to lie about that.
What a detail! You are totally right dude💯
It could have been the Black captain america that appears on the Falcon and the winter soldier
It will be hilarious if all those stan Lee cameos was actually post endgame Steve in disguise
@@KomodoDragonOffical I mean they can still pull it off, I mean his appearances are in every movie but not in Spider-Man FFH, That might be because cap already revealed him self at the end of endgame
SHORT STICK FIGHTS i dont think so
@@chinmengyee457 maybe not but who knows
😂
Lol 😂
Yeet
Am I the only one that wants to see the interaction that Cap & Red Skull have when he returns the Soul Stone?
Red Skull: welcome, steve, son of sarah
Cap: red skull, son.......... of a bitch you're still alive
@@will1223 true
@@will1223 cap, language
@@will1223 was that from Thor?
Mayb that's how he lost his everlasting life? Gave up the soul of Captain America so he can stay as Steve Rodgers? 🤔
Watched Black Widow last night and a line from the Red Guardian struck me. When he was arm wrestling he said in 1986 or something along those lines he fought a great battle with Captain America, the guy he was sitting with noted that Captain America was still on ice at that time. Leading me to believe he had fought with the Captain after he had returned to the past and was living his life with Peggy.
it was likely Isaiah Bradley
now thanks to Loki, I think I believe this theory cause the TVA said what they did was supposed to happen so that would include steve going back to Peggy. So I do believe Steve was Peggy's husband the whole time and that him going back to her was always supposed to happen to not make a branched timeline.
Fans: He was in the mcu this whole time!
Marvel: He was? I mean.... he was, yes, he was there the whole time, yes!
lmao they're probably like *hmm never thought of that*
@@Troll-el8ix I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that Marvel had this plot twist planned way in advance. They have used easter eggs to set up future plot lines before, and the details pointed out here such as the photos of Peggys' kids sans her husband in her hospital room, as well as Steve's photo on her desk look like prime examples to me.
Old cap was meant to be Stan lee
Apparently old Steve was supposed to be played by Stan lee which would explain all his appearances throughout the movies
@@louisetaylor7780 that wouldn't have made sense cuz what about all of the Stan Lee appearences in films like guardians and Thor?
So when the two Captain America’s were fighting, a third may have been watching.
That thrid cap probably pretty old by that time but I know for sure he can watch them fight all day.
@@terrythao7186lmao
He surely was in the background eating some popcorn very still
He was looking at America's Ass while the other Steve was looking at America's ass and made the same comment
“I can watch it all day” LOL
I still dont understand the time travel thing, even after hours of reading
You know if read the comics you'll realize there was a big flaw in that old man cap scene. That fact that the supersoldier serum cap took prevents aging. It forever keeps him in prime physicality.
Honestly, I don't really care about how many caps there were. I'm just happy that Steve and Peggy got to have their dance, and grow old together.
Matthew Gennell I know, right! I’m so tired of hearing people talk about how dumb that was. He more than deserved.
@@seanathaalexand ye... bro I am really so happy to see him getting his life Tony was talking about.😌
Sean McEuen EXACTLY
Unless he somehow uses the infinity stone to travel to the omniverse and then rewind the movie then jump into the movie like deadpool 😊
Good thing this isn’t the comics than
Young Steve: *kisses Sharon*
Old Steve behind a pillar: *faceplam*
She is Peggy's niece, not her daughter.
Good move Steve, I say.
@@billhenry7213 But through marriage, she's Steve's niece, too. This ain't Alabama.
@@gerbillover3186 fuck aladeadmeme
@@BiggyWiggy2119 alawhatnow?
So? It's not like he knew. And it isn't like no one ever got romantically involved with two different people who are related to each other, it's really fairly common. (Used to be pretty normal if a man was widowed he'd remarry his wife's sister, after all.)
i now it might be wrong but hear me out,
so in captain america : the winter soldier
1) we see that when steve rogers enters peggy's hospital room, she is suffering with Alzheimer's disease which is basically a disease which causes u to forget recent and past memories
2) so this is just an assumption that when peggy might have seen rogers for the first time after endgame, her first reaction would've been, (steve ur alive, you've come back) as we see this reaction in the movie after rogers fetches a glass of water for her
3) so what i am proposing is that, steve who travelled back in time, lived his life with peggy, turned old, and then suddenly disappeared for some unknown reason (for ex: current steve rogers being found in the ice, so two steve's together is a nono); which made peggy believe that he might've died and left her for good
4) then again in current timeline, peggy might have seen rogers all young and fit just as she might have in endgame, thinking that rogers have time travelled again for his love
ikik it is a little crooked theory but i might also say that the alzheimer's disease kills this disease
then again i would say alzheimer's disease was just a cover-up to any threats peggy could face or some unknown reason
Brilliant! I think you're right and there were 2 Caps the whole time!
Just pitching ideas here. I wouldn't mind a series showing Steve's journey to return the stones. Like WandaVision!!!
But Evan's contract is expired, so no more mcu movies for him to be expected
It’s confirmed he’s returning as Steve Rogers on a new marvel project.
@@JhanOjanhe maybe getting new contracts in the future.
We should always
"Expect the Unexpected"
@@JhanOjan he can sign another contract.
@@Sanjay24official If we expect the unexpected, but define the unexpected it will become the expected. So we should just stop expecting
He actually lived 200 years😂😂
@@claudio6899 rwooooooooooooooooosh
@@claudio6899 frozen in ice counts also.
Nah he was sealed in ice like the avatar.
Then after Endgame he went back to the past.
@@marian20012 but he wasnt really living life tho, he was unconscious for a long time lol
@@greedpower565 you are unconscious during sleep, so doesn't it count to your years?
It would’ve been crazy if Stan Lee played old Steve…would’ve made sense since he popped up in just about every marvel movie
That was the plan but sadly since he passed they didn’t do it :(
Peggy saying "You came back" and "Youre so young" can now be seen as her referencing that he DID come back and they got married.
But for me it goes down to the fact that cap did not arrive in the teleporter they were expecting him, he was already in their universe, waiting by the lake means that he did not alter the timeline but chose not to return by Pym particle. With Cap in the MCU doing rogue superhero stuff that he knew the avengers never handled, would also explain why the Red Guardian swears he fought Cap at some point in the 90s, which they made a big deal out of Cap being in the ice at the time.
They where married the whole time... while he passionately kissed her niece? ✌️
I'm still mad lol
He married an alt Peggy so the Sharon he kissed wasn't related to him in any way.
@@ironcap8913 so even if she is not blood your niece is your niece period.
@@hao9508 I meant that he married Peggy in an alternate timeline whereas he kissed Sharon of the main timeline - So the 'Sharon' he kissed was not his niece.
@@ironcap8913 he kissed her in the same time-line. Since he was on the bench he lived in this one.
Peggy: "I cheated on you...with you."
Captain America: "Nani?"
How would that work tho
No worries nigga i kissed the niece too
I used the stones to destroy the stones! 😂
@@SemihSoysal09 haha
@@SemihSoysal09 Captain America: Yes I lived a Good Life
Thanos: No resurections this Time!
Future Loki: I faked my Death again.
Thanks Tony for giving me the tesseract through Hulk. Natasha was Right.
I love your vids I learn so much
No human is perfect and his love for Peggy. Was that kind of forever love, even when he was small weak. You could see they were soulmates, it just took time for them realize the truth. This was one time Cap choose his happiness and hers over the fate of the world. Because they were two that became one. Most people don't understand that kind of forever love.
Have you ever thought that in 50 years we are gonna be able to see how accurate was this CGI aging on Chris Evans?
mule vpn what’re you talking about?? DeNiro, Pachino, Freeman, Betty White, etc etc etc
@mule vpn HAHA, nice comeback.... very logical
Very little of it was CGI, the bulk of it was actual makeup effects and considering it made Chris' own mother cry when she saw him in the full make up, because it made him look like a spitting image of his late grandfather, I'd say the makeup wizards at Marvel Studios did a damn good job of giving us a pretty accurate idea of what Chris is going to look like when he gets old.
Actually, the old Steve Rogers was portrayed by Patrick Gorman. It's on IMDB if you want proof.
@@marbenmin5878
Yes...but no.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Gorman_(American_actor)
Gorman played the body of old Steve Rogers. The head was Chris Evans. Much like in Forrest Gump when Tom Hanks head was put on a real soldier receiving the Medal of Honor.
The real reason way Steve Rogers didn't alter the timeline by changing the events may be because what he quoted in "Avengers Age of Ultron" while quarreling with Tony Stark about consequences he quoted: "Every time someone tries to win a war before it starts, innocent people die. Every time."
Loki ✊
yeah, there's no point in changing the future if he knows they are gonna win anyways. He actually risks making them lose one of their battles if he tried anything stupid
Lol
Exactly!
I think cap would at least try to stop disasters. Yeah they won, but at what cost?
Due to the first clip, you should already know that Peggy’s “mysterious husband” was Steve. He is depicted in said movie dancing with her. He went back to her time. He didn’t make a new time period, the TVA would have brought him in for that.
Unless he was supposed to.
@@JustWriter the literal nature of the TVA is to preserve one main timeline, and get rid of anyone or anything that creates a new one. He was not supposed to.
Brilliant insight
Marvel: “That’s not how time travel works!”
Also Marvel: “That’s how it works”
That's actually how it works because the Infinity stones create the flow of time.
Because Marvel!
I just made a theory about when in the end of the movie end game when captain America went in the time machine some parts of the movie the first avenger would have not existed if he didnt go back in time and I think he explained to her that he went back in time that's why he returned old and that's why theres no pictures with him with his kids so he can keep his identity hidden that's why she said even when he died he was still changing my life she already knew about the 70 year ice thing she just stayed quiet so events in time when he returns to her never changes 😶😶🤯🤯BTW WHERE AND WHO IS HIS KIDS NOW?
That’s why I thought Endgame was terrible
cause it's the time stone instead of quantum time travel
Old Cap be like:
I can do this all decade.
You deserve more like 😂😂😂
bruh
lol
@@CC_Cody2224 lol
Peggy: "do what? kiss my niece you motherf..."
taking from the series "LOST" when time travel came into the story "what happened- happened and will always happen!" combined with what the Hulk has said "go back into the past, the past becomes your future" its just a big ball of wibbly wobbly timey wimey
I Love Peggy Carter absolutely Love her ❤ we need her in the MCU as Agent Carter like they did in What If. I also loved her in Agent Carter shame that show ended early.
Dude, I want at least a miniseries showing cap's life with Peggy
Given that, for it to work, he would have to keep a really low profile and not let anyone know he was alive, that would be a pretty boring series.
Nah, that would ruin it.
@@fromchomleystreet yes... Cuz u know that cap cant go outside cuz everyone will recongnise him ...so yeah it will flop hard .thier marriage will be boring
I just made a theory about when in the end of the movie end game when captain America went in the time machine some parts of the movie the first avenger would have not existed if he didnt go back in time and I think he explained to her that he went back in time that's why he returned old and that's why theres no pictures with him with his kids so he can keep his identity hidden that's why she said even when he died he was still changing my life she already knew about the 70 year ice thing she just stayed quiet so events in time when he returns to her never changes 😶😶🤯🤯BTW WHERE AND WHO IS HIS KIDS NOW?
FACTS!!!
Imagine that the old man in Avangers 1 (who stand up against Loki in Germany) was actually Cap.. 😶
This is interesting
But that would mean that Steve would most likely have died by End Game.....hmmm
Ah yes, my favorite team, the Avangers
@@ashhh2023 lol
Neeraj N LOL
This is all so mindblowing
Would love a small show about him going and returning all the stones, any problems he gets into, a few bad guys, and then it ends with him either coming back or w/e happened or even happy ending with Peggy.
In WINTER SOLDIER, Peggy says "Steve, you came back." before she died.
to hide the truth of older captain america
Adam Pawski
No.
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The directors themselves say that he wasn’t there. Do your fucking research.
(1:46 to be precise).
BlackBoy 27 hahaha acting like this shit is real, ‘do you’re research’. Grow up, its a fucking movis
@@coldermusic2729 do research moron
@@coldermusic2729 he always married peggy quit being a butt hurt punk
does anyone else remember Peggy saying "You're so young" to cap during her alzheimer's/dementia scene or am I having a Mandela effect?
That...is an incredible catch
she did yea
Man, this theory just makes more and more sense
....I think she was just surprised he was still young because she wasn’t aware of him being frozen....
Mandela? Old President of South Africa which im from lol
I believe its entirely possible now that there are 2 Caps. I also think its possible that Steve knew going back in time to return the stones he would know where his friends were on the day he went back so he could be there as his old self after living his life with Peggy to go and see them again. I make this comment now after all the other shows have aired and we know more about time loops and variants and different things.
Another thing is when he decided to stay back in his original time with Peggy he knew that the others, including himself, the one we watched fight Thanos and save the world from every thing else, would win and save the world. Because he was there when it happened. He had no need to interfere. Yes there was a lot of death but the good guys still prevailed.
But kinda doesn't make sense at the same time because he visited Peggy when she was on her death bed. They didn't act like they spent a life together. You'd think that if he did drop the stones in their original place and stayed his older self would've been there or at least mentioned to young Cap by Peggy.
This discussion is so weird that you will soon realise that it means during captain fighting another captain in new york, there were total 3 Captain America
I think that was in a diffrent timeline
Unless the captain America from that time line did the same thing our did
Cap had to return the infinity stones though, so that’s why there would be 3 caps in that New York timeline. Maybe even more, depending on how many time loops there are
@@secretchicken14 If he went back to return the stones and THEN went back to agent Carter, there would be 4. If het went back to agent Carter and kept the stones only to return them when that time has come, there would only be 3
Well, it also depends on what timelines the Agent Carter happened in. But true
the question now is: when did cap married agent carter? before or after he returned the stones? i wonder... 🤔
Plot twist: captain America is the 46th president of the United States
Yer sayin he’s Biden?
@@foxboygaming6314 I mean old Steve looks a lot like Biden lol
@@sashatrajkovski8327 Except Joe is sleepy all the time
@@sashatrajkovski8327 lol, he and biden look nothing alike.
@kaltes herz now he is
Ya that theory has also came to my mind multiple times ☺️
He was definitely there. He knew everything would be fine so he didn’t do anything big. I mean we all know he probably saved a couple babies from burning buildings but that’s all. It really shouldn’t be a question
He couldn't do anything because Thanos wins in 14,000,604 other timelines.
He didn't meddle with events because just like he said in endgame, he tried the life that Tony talked about. He already knows everything would eventually be fine and he knows his younger self is there. Basically, he's retired.
He did his duty and saved the universe. A few times. He's earned it.
He did interfere at some point. Someone actually fought the Old Captain America while the other was still frozen...The Red Guardian. Watch the Black Widow movie again. He didn't have any reason to lie about that.
Old Steve Rogers looks kinda like Joe Biden. Dunno why
Haha I've noticed that too
They knew... xD
Peggy has delicious hair maybe.
But Old Steve doesn't look sleepy and creepy.
Politic in avemgers comment section, you will burn in hell
A Steve & Peggy spin off wouldn’t be half bad if done right.
Has anyone ever thought that cap is still frozen but future Steve is living his past so cap is still frozen.
*Just imagine a reality in which Stan Lee was still alive and that he played the older version of Steve Rogers in Endgame.
*
That would be mindblowing.
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Is the old steve stan lee or joe biden make up your mind😂
That doesn't really work because Stan Lee was revealed to be a watcher
more like a mindfuck. the implications considering his other appearances would be fucked
That would have been the dumbest shit ever
Peggy: Steve?
Steve: yes?
Peggy: grab your shield!
Steve: why?
Peggy: I just found out what happened between you and my niece!
Steve: Peggy! Wait!
*Peggy grabs her gun
*bang bang bang bang!
IM LAUGHING SO HARD RN!
Somehow I don’t think she told him to grab his shield
Ahh sweet home alabama :)
OH SHIT 😂😂😂😂😂😂
This is hilarious 😂😂😂
70 years in the ice : totally fine and young
60 years with wife : old
It’s weird that so few people talk about he like 200 years old at the end of endgame. And even if you don’t count the years in the ice, he’s still over 100
So that would mean her kids are most likely his kids with super soldier genes... Just saying.
Spinoff show confirmed
He wasn’t born with the serum so it wouldn’t be in his genes.
Prod. 05 the Serum is in his genes. That’s confirmed by Agent Carter in The First Avenger when she says the serum is in his genes.
You know NOTHING about genetics 🤣
@LuppiesHyper HAHAHAHA i love ppl thinking this shit is real life guy thinks hydra about to make more soldiers rn
Since he's already lived thru the events that you're talking about, he knows how they end and that he doesn't have to be involved because a version of himself already is involved.
Exactly. And he knows he CAN'T interfere or he'll mess everything up. His job is literally to do nothing other than love Peggy and be there for her. He lead one life as Captain America. Now he's Steve, a.k.a Mr. Peggy Carter.
@@JakobNoone he can do that all night. 😁
@@mikekean8344 Definitely. And he's earned it!
Well would’nt cap going back in time result in the timeline having 2 Caps at the same time. One did the saving the earth shit and the other banged Peggy, simple as that
At 1:01, when The Hulk defined the concept of traveling through time regarding your future will be the past that was referenced in the film Kate and Leopold in which Stuart discusses that same concept to Kate before arriving in the year 1876.
I bet he was watching himself after Peggy dies and thinking. “That is America’s ass.”
this dude was alive for over 100 years, and only aged to look like 50-67. That ice helped Steve so much.
They should make a movie with Steve becoming friends with the ice.
lol i remembered elsa
Captain America and the winter sofa.
50-67 xDD
wouldnt a side effect of the serum be slowed aging? More muscles, etc. which would lead to better health and slower aging?
Ice Age - Captain America
Steve Roger’s time travel is the “Butterfly Effect” version, it did not follow Banner’s explanation, or the original End Game time travel narratives.
Why i'm feeling the urge to cry when i find my steve gets old 😭😭😭i dont want my cap to go away..he really nailed it
for anyone that didnt already know, it was originally and always planned that stan lee would cameo as old cap to ring everything together to really surprise everyone. but since he passed they had to retcon that and just do this. but all of his cameos were just gonna be cap watching over them trough the years
This doesn’t really make much sense for a lot of those cameos. Steve was a Watcher? Steve worked as a Fed Ex driver? Steve is Hugh Hefner?
@@fromchomleystreet it's marvel, they don't need to make it make sense, people will eat it up anyway
No, If it really happened, Climax of endgame would become a joke
It seems more like a joke than a surprise
Source for this?
@@fromchomleystreet he had to blend in or should I say, stay out of sight in order to maintain the timeline remember?
Is that joe biden?
He actually looks like him🤣
Can’t unsee this now
Lmao that’s what I thought
I didn’t want to say anything
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It must of been quite difficult for background Steve, knowing a lot that would happen and couldn't do anything. Also knowing that at a certain point in time there was a possibility that he himself could of been dusted by Thanos.
Having a new movie called "Steve Rogers" would be great. It will be featuring his travels returning the stones. Just pitching an idea.
50% of the comments: Cap looks like Joe Biden.
50% of the comments: Cap kissed his niece ewwwwwww.
The counter on the whole niece thing : first they had no blood relation they were a thing in the comics so debunked at best
Second Luke and liea kissed in star wars didn’t see anyone complaining I rest my case
@@asmaaebrahim7979 yea they didn’t complain because they didn’t know they were siblings, right? Exactly how Cap didn’t know he was gonna go back in time to marry Peggy
@@marklethesparkle3493 honestly I really don’t think the whole Peggy being intended to marry Steve was intentional for the get go I think the writers changed to satisfy the fans which’s why I am no fan of the ending it contradicts his story arc I would’ve rather see him die while ironman live
0.000000001% therealjjj
Joe Biden probably kissed the niece too.
So we’re just going to overlook the part where he was making out with his niece???????
Step-niece on Peggy’s side. So, DEFINITELY, not as bad as making out with his own blood-related daughter or niece.
That might be also why Disney won’t 100% confirm Cap is Peggy’s husband. They don’t want to admit they created an incest scene like Ole George did in Star Wars, by not planning ahead more.
she wasn't his niece at the time. means nothing.
0730patrick if there was another Steve that was already married to Peggy she should’ve had known wouldn’t she?
That’s perfectly allowed in the part of West Virginia I’m from. Don’t be so suburban! 😜
Oh boi well i just going to think bcus steve went bck in time and married peggy he messed up the time line where he has kissed his own niece .
Steve already knew everyone would win and everything would be ok in the end. There was no reason for him to interfere, other than pride and the pain of having to see it again. Not to mention he'd have lots of influence through Peggy if he REALLY wanted to try to change things.
In the Black Widow movie Red Guardian kept asking Natasha if Captain America ever mentioned him? This would have been the Captain America that had gone back in time. Remember the 3 founding members of S.H.I.E.L.D. were people he knew. So it would have been relatively easy to have kept Captain America off the books.
"If you travel to the past, that past becomes your future"
-Smart Hulk
I believe Steve was Peggy's husband and father of her children. Possible: They "married" outside the country with him under a false name and he still carried on heroics as a vigilante. Their children knew who Daddy was/is and kept the secret. The end
he was probably there through out the whole series, he already went through all the wars and battles with avengers, he didn't do anything because it would disrupt the timeline, and also he knew what was going to happen since he already experienced it. so in other words he's retired, and living life with her.
Would love to see what really happened hopefully they do a movie or serie
In winter soldier, he was carrying peggy’s coffin
civil war*
It's not him. You see a blond old guy - with this hair parted -> *but his hair is parted on the opposite side as Steve Roger's.* So it's not him -> Period.
The directors of the film have also debunked this. You have to have common sense though and if you don't, you don't.
Common Sense: The directors have directly refuted it. The directors cast the roles. Why would the directors try to suggest that Old Man Rogers was carrying her casket by showing the back of his head - > *and then have the only clue - the way his hair is parted directly contradict the supposed conspiracy?*
You can't use screen writers remarks - because they only write the screenplay and there is *nothing* in the screenplay about the pall bearers. *Nothing.*
So this is nonsense. *And you know it.* 😂
Summer Tyme thx for letting him know, but you didn't need to be so condescending about it.
Summer Tyme oh boo fucking hoo his hair is a different way
@@summertyme5748 jesus crist dude, just fucking say the sentence, there was no need at all for u to go off on him. jeez
This makes Sharon and Steve's kiss even worse😂. Unless Sharon didn't know her uncle.
Oh yeah.. wait that is illegal😯
The scene from airport in Germany
They still wouldn't technically be related. But by marriage, yes.
Wincest!
Oh yup
Actually this teory makes more sense now, cause on Black widow Alexei/Red Guardian said that he fought the cap in the 80's or something like that (when he really was on ice at the moment). So he isnt lying after all.
Ah well that can explain alot😍
There's an old man carrying Peggy's coffin at her funeral that resembles old Steve
OMG I NEED TO SEE THIS
You onto something
So no one gonna talk about when they travelled back New York Battle Event, there are actually 3 Steve Rogers in that current time.
Future Steve, Past Steve, and Future-Past Steve.
Dont forget when they jumped back to 1970 where Cap saw his Picture on Peggy's Desk. So Frozen Cap, Retired Cap, Future Cap and Returning Stones Cap.
@@brucedoyle4055 Okay.Now my brain is trembling!
@@brucedoyle4055 Wait no...still 3 capsicle, old cap, 2023 cap...EXCEPT...cap goes back to return the stones so yeah 4
@@brucedoyle4055 great man ! Now i have to reprocess my MCU timeline .
@@marcolara5433 retired old cap is the same as stones returning cap
Can you imagine just fighting in that war then watching the whole time
I'd like to see Steve with Agatha ... I mean that would be interesting
When you wake up at 6am and then you close your eyes about 5 second and u wake up again and its 3pm
You: TIME TRAVEL!
Literally me every morning... alarms goes on 7:00 but I always get tired and close my eyes for 5 secs then wake up it’s 12:00 PM
🤣🤣
Ahahaha it's a win win.
“Now that’s America’s Ass” 😂 best line in endgame
Correction: "In the world"
Theglubgogubgoga ah yes so true
For a second I thought you were a build a bear
Manny Acosta damn you don’t have to do
me like that😂🤣💀
Tayshaun TPD for one it’s “I am Iron Man”. There is no and. Also I think Avengers assemble from Endgame is the best line.
Wow that video was literally just you pondering a question for 30 minutes
With the first What If episode... I think when he came back to the present, he came to the present of the timeline that Peggy Carter became the "super soldier." They grew old together and then he came back.
maybe the reason why peggy doesnt have steve picture on her family pic
to prevent anyone to know or who he is
rememeber, hydra is everywhere and they watch every move
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It doesn’t make sense that Steve was there all along
We all know that in the MCU when you travel to the past it doesn’t affect the present because the past already happened
Instead , you create an alternate timeline
So , Steve continued living in an alternate timeline with Peggy until he came back to the main timeline to give Sam his shield
I know some people are going to say that “ you only create an alternate timeline during time travel if an Infinity Stone disappears or goes missing ”
Not necessarily , when Tony , Steve , and Scott Lang went back to 2012 , they screwed up and Loki took the tesseract ( space stone ) and escaped .
So , no Infinity Stones disappeared from that timeline , it’s just that Loki has one of them .
All stones remained intact
But an alternate timeline was created
And of course we know that in the main timeline Loki gets caught so him taking the tesseract in 2012 never happened. We are yet to see what happens in Loki’s Disney+ show
I feel like a nerd now
Your right I commented same thing this makes the whole plot of the movie fake
It does make sense,if we take Peggy's husband from winter soldier in consideration,keep in mind that her husband has never been mentioned by name and its clearly not Sousa
U traitor
Or maybe he was always supposed to go back in time so this is all one timeline
Loki show is based after he took the space stone and left in endgame, and that he’s gonna remove the other alternative timelines. It’s weird but that’s what I heard gonna happen in his show.
I like this theory, makes so much sense.
At the end of endgame before going back in time before he went back to return the stones, Steve looked behind over his shoulder followed with an expression of reassurance. This is because he spotted his older self knowing at that point in time everything was going to work out and him returning the long way after living his life with Peggy was all part of that timeline and reassured his plan.
Cap kissing Sharon didn't seem awkward to Sam but Natasha saying hi to Bruce who returned two years later on earth(not in any romantic mood in a world catastrophe)seemed awkward to Sam😂🙄
In civil war at Peggy’s funeral, there’s a old man holding her coffin and he looks pretty similar too the old Steve
There wasn’t an old captain America. Till captain when back and stayed.
I was half expecting old cap to be/look like Stan Lee given all the cameos. It'd make sense that he'd just be having a good time watching the avengers throughout their journeys since, you know, he was aware of the when and where.
This is why Thor’s Axe and Hammer always comes back to him. Steve was always there, throwing it to him.
Yeah nice copied comment shut up mate
@@c4datimebomb392 ???
if he was in a different dimension he would come back through the time machine, but he just appeared on that bench like he lived his whole life on the sidelines just waiting for the exact day to show up and reveal himself...
Precisely. You have made the ultimate valid point.
It’s because he closed the alternate dimensions created by returning the stones and closing them which brought him to his original reality
@@evangrentz4691 but he dated peggy which would create a time paradox would it not
Yes. I don’t know why people feel the need to make it more complicated than it is. He didn’t have to “come from” another timeline. There is only the one timeline. And for more than 70 years, it had two Steve Rogerses in it - one who was frozen in ice for most of that time, then to be thawed out, before spending a few years being Captain America again in the 21st century, and finally to disappear completely, and another who spent those 70 years keeping a very low profile in order to fuck up the time continuum as little as possible, avoiding people who might recognise him, and presumably living under an assumed name as Peggy’s husband.
@Akshay 18 It has nothing to do with Back to the Future. That was a conversation about changing history. You alter history and you create a branch reality. But there is no history being changed here. You’re just over-complicating something that is simple, elegant and which works logically and narratively.
Anyway, the screenwriters have confirmed that that was their intention - though why we needed them to do so when it was completely obvious is beyond me.
I aggressively choose not to try to figure things like this out. Hurts my brain, but happy Steve got his happy not ending
1:38 I could totally imagine 4 Captain America's at once... 2 of them fighting, 1 returning stones and one old man just watching....