i think you should add dmg has a good indicator of an healer a good healer doesnt just heals you need to do dps when you can in retail you need to do everything heal, interrupt, cc etc.. and do DPS
I’d love to hear more videos similar to how tanks / healers scale through Wrath of the Lich King, and where some healers are stronger. As an example, I played Resto Druid through all of Wrath and they scaled great into ICC, but on the Lich King, Disc priests were king because of how their shielding interacted with Infest, trivializing the mechanic. Great content, cheers!
Yeah, THis video clearly misses how important Disc are. You can bump Shammy down and put Disc up to S tier. Disc is almost required for the 2nd half of of all of Wraith thru Ruby Sanctum. You HAVE to have disc for lich king. That alone should make it S tier.
Disc Priest always dominated even in fights not normally disc-priest centric. They would help teams when they would stop wipes before they even happened. If your A-team had a disc priest it had room to take an extra hit teams that didn't have a disc priest couldn't. Disc priests would make sure there was PWS on everyone. That means any deathblow automatically was a save in WROTLK. Between that, the burst healing abilities, and that super mana-efficient heal you can cast while you're moving, the disc priest was a jack-of-all-trades healer that can (briefly) do group heals at a massive mana disadvantage, secure a main tank temporarily between pain suppression etc, and generally adapt to the environment. They were used as the extra healer you really needed but didn't have hence their reputation as a requirement for the hardest bosses.
im happy disc priest getting the recognition (might be biased as i main it). I genuinely feel like people pass it off as sub par holy substitute. It's not, it has never been and never will be. Shielding is fundamentally different from healing. Ofc, it doesn't help that the class identity changes every xpac (sometimes more than once an xpac). They're also a class that can really capitalise on Crit healing (Divine Aegis was probably one of the best things to ever be brought to Disc priests, especially in MoP, imo). So I am glad people feel the same way i do! I've no issue with Holy Priests - mind you. They're as needed as disc priests, but they're not identical specs
Just a tip for the Holy Priests: go for the Glyph of Guardian Spirit. With that glyph you will be able to use the GS in longer fights 2-3 even 4 times, with that you can be the ultimate saviour of your teammates :)
I'm sure your experience was this that Shaman, Druid and Paladin were top healers and Priests came second. However, on both original WOTLK and Private servers I played Disc Priest Blood Elf, and doing things like 10man heroics. I never saw a paladin, druid, shaman or holy priest SOLO raid heal and keep tank alive on all fights in H TOC10 or H ICC10. On a Disc Priest however, you can solo heal 10 man raids and 10 man heroics and keep your mana full as well. If I were ranking it. S Tier: Disc Priest A Tier: Paladin, Shaman, Druid B Tier: Holy Priest
Not true.. there are plenty vids around of hpal or hpriest solo healing icc 10hc... and prob other heal specs too Anyway id rate hpal and disc as S, rdruid and shammy as A... hpriest b or c/situational
@@Wizardi1111 Its a combination of protective abilities like shields, insane heals off of prayer of mending, fast cast times and a whole raft of utilities. I found Disc Priests even pushed to max healing, rarely if ever ran out of mana. That essentially made them stand out. Mana efficiency with total throughput and utilities made them amazing. Compared to other classes where i felt that other classes mana was the sticking point, they would eventually run out of mana before a Disc Priest would. That makes all the difference. A holy paladin, shaman, druid or h priest can possibly solo heal a lot of fights, but in longer fights they would be tapped out of mana whilst the disc priest would still be going.
When I was playing Pservers as Holypal I was solo healing 10man heroic ICC with no problem, 12/12 bosses. (No, that Pserver wasnt massively bugged, Holypal is just highly overtuned in Wrath) Sure, I had all types of Trinkets and even Valanyr in my inventory for some fights but paladin is by far the most broken throughout the entire xpac. Discpriest only was needed on specific fights and was almost entirely useless when it came to heavy tankdamage fights (Except for their utility)
I respectfully disagree. I think in the majority of cases a d priest will contribute more to a raid than a shaman or druid. Most of my experience has come from private servers so maybe my info is skewed but I'd personally say h pally / d priest is the strongest healing combo in the game. We have to see what wotlk will bring us though. In short though one solid through healer and a healthy amount of shields for burst performs better than any other combination of healers paladins are by far the best healers. D priest is simply the most complimentary class to them.
Glyph of Holy Light is probably the most useful thing Holy Paladins get in this expansion. The glyph system in Wrath greatly effects all classes and specs in huge ways. Many glyphs are more important than new spells and talents, not mentioning them makes me question the research put into this list.
@@erikzetterlund6997 no he clearly lists how he’s ranking them in the video. You don’t have to like it but he never said he was doing a deep research dive lol
Tier list is super helpful, though one thing to consider is if you are going to be using a rating system for things like 'utility' in isolation of healers, it doesn't really make sense if almost all classes are maxed out on utility. Are you scoring these relative to nonhealers or ranking them against each other?
one very important thing you did not touch on is that prayer of healing is now centered on your target rather than yourself, so you can use it to heal other raid groups. a very big buff
Weird that the list is so different from Rugs' list. He puts HPal and Disc on S-tier, Tree on A-tier, and RSham+HPriest on B-Tier. His ideal healer setup for a 25 man is 2 Hpal, 1 Disc, 1 Tree, and either a HPriest or an RSham. Of course, his list is very much based on Pserver experience, but healers have been more accurate than DPS, in terms of how closely Pservers have mapped to classic, at least thus far.
@Svilen Denchev it’s not though. Watch any server first kills on private servers and will you will see ele top5 if not number 1. It’s legit a top tier spec. If you are looking back at retail and saying this based on your experience I get that, but classic wotlk will not be the same as what you did. It will be in patch 3.3.5. THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
@Svilen Denchev enhance is also a god tier dps. If you are thinking it’s bad you may not know how the spec has progressed on private servers. During Naxx and through mid ulduar the spec plays with mainly spell power gear. They call it (spellhance)
I think you need to break down the tiers of raiding. Or even fights. At 0% Hellscream, resto druid is terrible on LK or LK HC. The raid healing is mostly breaking Infest. Which, due to their raid healing being HoTs, resto druids are terrible at doing. Unless you get a lucky Val'anyr proc, they have no mitigation to prevent the Infest from sticking in the first place, and the ticks aren't strong enough to out pace Infest's ramping damage until you get super geared and/or a higher Hellscream buff. Even using T8 4 piece, you just don't have the group burst healing you need to help. A second resto shammy is way more useful, or even a second Disco to keep 20+ members shielded and prevent Infest from ticking at all. On most other fights, resto druids are at least good. On fights like Putricide or Valkyrs, where there's consistent slow burn raid damage, they are amazing. But resto druid generally won't be your go-to 10 man second healer. 10 man raids, holy pally + disco or resto shammy + disco is going to get you better mileage. With the exception of 10HC Putricide, where the extra energy from a resto druid on the abom will help immensely, and the raid damage again fits perfectly with the healing style of a resto. So if you want a general tier list, I'd say Disco/Hpally/resto shammy as S tier. You will always want one, and for resto shammy two or even three in a 25 man team isn't bad. In 25HC, you need one of each. Holy priest is just redundant, and can't do anything another class can't do better. Tank healing, Hpally is better. Raid burst healing, resto shammy is better. Raid HoT healing, resto druid is better. Tank saving cd's, disco is better. Mitigation, disco is also better. Just use a second resto shaman, and you'll be happier. But they are more viable as a healer than a sub rogue is for DPS, so I'd say low B or high C. Resto druid, I'd say solid A, depending on how much weight you put into the LK fight compared to other fights. Their utter uselessness on LK and Saurfang is a big hit overall, especially with how much those fights are major gates to fight through. 3/12 in ICC is easy, and if you don't know the fights you stall out at DBS. But once your guild gets DBS down, you get to 6 or 7/12 easily that same week. And obviously the final Big Bad is the end goal. So if you value those fights significantly higher than the other bosses, than Resto Druid is B. If not, A.
Holy priest has better burst aoe healing than Shaman. PoH + CoH can just pump a whole group from 0 - 100 whereas chain heal can't. Also Divine Hymn is king healing cd. I'm sorry but Hpriest stomps Rshams in AoE **Burst** healing by far.
You are clearly unaware what holy priest can do. Problem with hpriest is that he can only shine on huge aoe spike damage. Hpriest is also very difficult to utilize properly but in the right hands will perform better than any other heal. Being able to do everything that other heals can do is a curse, makes it hard to play. Shammy and rdruid are a joke
@@jordandhaliwal2857 Dont bother with pugs. WoW has some of the worst levels of toxicity. Play with friends or not at all. That's mainly the reason I quit in 2019... That, plus the grind in order to unlock flying in Shadowlands. As soon as I read that (still in BFA) i understood there's just no hope for this game/community to evolve.
I love how people make a tier list and put every class but one on the A tier. You’ve probably never played wrath, because disc priest is nuts and easily an S tier healer, especially late game.
@@MrNickcrush Opinions don't matter, only cold hard numbers. And they back his statement. Its like DPS tier lists that don't even mention 2 handed blood dk's, these people have clearly not touched wrath.
@@zerkaoce7373 Holypal is the best healer throughout the entire xpac and every statistic shows it. Could solo 10man ICChc and 3man ICC25hc with 2Holypal/1Disc (Cuz its required for LKhc). Delusion and nostalgic. Play a Pserver for 10years and then tell me again that Disc is better than Hpal.
@@yan-zhilinn1402 lmao considering we got LK oceanic server first in the day, and im currently in a top 20 guild on retail i know what im talking about LOL
great information... But, would be nice to have a video running in the background to see the classes in action, this is similar to sitting in class on a power point presentation
Disc and paladin are the only S tier healers. The others can heal, but disc and paladin allow you to ignore mechanics altogether. I hvae no idea what this guys is thinking.
My 2 cents: Paladin is the best healer overall. Strong, fast, focused healing that is replicated onto the tank and tons of cooldowns. Disc priest is the only healer that can keep up with the Paladin, and is only worse because you can’t stack them due to weakened souls and overlapping shields. Resto druid brings the most utility and AoE healing, but lacks in focused fast heals (tank healing). However, revitalize is invaluable on the DPS and spread-able with Wild growth/Rejuv spam. RD also heals FOREVER with Clearcasting procs going into Lifebloom for a free cast that pops for 500 mana returned to the Druid. If played properly, this lends some Innervates to your other healer(s). Resto Shaman and Holy Priest are viable but don’t have a true strength like those above, though I’d rate resto sham over Holy priest mostly due to having Lust. Best combo (2 healer team) is gonna be HPal + Disc or Resto Druid, depending on whether u want more true healing power or more utility/buffs.
@@Crowsnestdesigns revitalize, battle res, and the invaluable innervate. A properly played resto druid is never oom, and innervating your HPal gives them a full mana bar of mana from scratch. BRes can come in very handy. Revitalize and the sheer AOE fashion of resto Druid healing complements a true main healer very well
Ummm Pali is top for wotlk. Then disc priest followed by Druid/shaman and holy is the worse healer in wotlk. Bro I love your vids most of the time but where are you getting this info from?
would have loved to see some spells in action and not those motionless information screens. still a good comparison though. is wotlk also your favorite expansion? it is mine for sure
I would argue that disc only looked good cuz its "healing" was calculated before anybody else. In most cases HoTs as well as HL/CH were just stronger. Rejuv could basically counteract 6 pulses of a boss aoe damage (like on PP and BQL) where as PW:S could only do 3. And then bombing huge HL and CH on the tanks which then healed other people due to glyph and just how the spells works, was incredibly strong. There werent any like, big raid damage mechanics that I can remember where having extra fake health meant people survived.
Why are you are right that other healers could perform more under the right circumstances. Those circumstances didn’t happen so it doesn’t matter. Along with having damage that never goes off is way better than having to heal it later. Less chance of people dying. So I disagree with you on a practical level while you’re still correct on the theoretical one
Best healer = dk tank. I’ve done H dungeons with 4 dps and no healer with barely 3.2 bis gear. I also frequently out healed the holy pally that babysat me in 10man raids.
Mate Blood DK selfhealing wasn't a thing in Wrath. If you didn't get heals for 3 seconds you were laying on the ground screaming at your raid. This is not Shadowlands, this is Wrath.
2 pally, 1 disc, 1 resto druid 1 resto sham. Which is what I like. You have armor types well balanced for loot distribution, all heal classes utility, all their strength and weaknesses, which are covered by the others strengths. If this healer layout does a good team effort they carry an entire raid. ( I'd actually take the druid only for heal intensive fights and leave him out/have him go dps when you need more DPS. )
@@ooxKINGKONGxoo DK wasn't in Wrath like it is now in SL my guy. If DK's didn't recieve any healing inside of a 3 second window they were dead. DK had absolutely no selfhealing in Wrath (If you talk about Dungeons, sure. But any tank could do it except warrior)
I don't fully agree on holy priests here. IMO they are the best raid healers in WOTLK when mastered. I outhealed any other healer with ease back in the day and it's the most fun healer class to play at the same time. POM, CoH, PoH in conjunction with stacking crit is OP as f. For tank healing i'd switch to Disc.
Agree, Holypriest is better than it's rep. But in terms of HPS no healer comes even close to holypaladins. No Restosham, no Holy. Holypriest was a good combination of both Restos, very versatile. But nothing compared to Holypal. Holypal on a scale (general, not specific bosses) is probably about 50%+ better than the second healer.
Shielding should be 1 to pala, shamy and druid, cause the only shielding they can provide is with valanyr, but they need to acquire that, whilst priests can shield more, and in cata the absorption is a bit more balanced, as holy barely does any absorbing shields, maybe on tanks or to save someone and disc just overloaded with shields, the talent for crits and the bubbles.
Thanks for video! Did much raid healing in original Wotlk as druid. Was curious how they were now in new classic wow. Have the good memories but no want to do again.
I raided a bunch in ICC then I stopped playing in cata. I just got back into wow and now it seems completely different. I'm thinking of going back to wow classic for this lol
Since I never played wotlk and purely by this video I can deduce that priest is a uselless class that wont be able to get into raiding endgame without other players having to babysit me.
Ideally you want 1 each of Disc, Druid, Shaman, and Pal. Then if you need an additional healer you bring a Holy Priest to supplement wherever you’re lacking.
What about dreamstate druid? :p jk Anyhow, so there's a problem i see with some of the comments. "Druids don't heal that much" No, they really do, the problem is the nature of HoT's is that while the HoT's are rolling, they are mostly just overhealing. This is where paladins shine because of the low cast reaction nature of it, they can effectively 'spot heal' the moment damage goes out where they know where the damage is and still tank heal. Even if paladin heals were weaker, the fact it's tank and spot healing on low cast times gives it SUCH a huge advantage, and further, it's mana efficiency. Every other class is either "AoE heal" or "single target spot heal" so they can't exactly capitalize on this huge bonus. Wotlk is infamous for being a raid expansion where it's not 'everyone takes the damage all at once' like it is in more recent raid expansions, so AoE healers don't get to abuse circle of healing or chain heal like other expansions. This is undoubtedly the holy paladin's expansion (after sucking so hard in tbc)
@@Vikzl Hpriest destroys Rsham in AoE burst healing when capped too. PoH + CoH can top a whole 5m group from 0-100 in 1 cast whereas Chain heal can't come close to that.
Which healer has the easiest time in Heroic Dungeons? I dont think I ll have the time to raid but I will definitely run lot of heroic dungeons (which Blizzard said will buff them to not be very easy). I am looking for a healer tier list but for dungeons instead. Thanks! I do like all healers. I would prefer to play Discipline but not sure how it performs as lone healer in a dungeon. Next one is probably Resto druid or resto shaman
@@diskuslars7527 , new class and new race in one expansion, new addition to lore and never told story, completely new designs of characters and environments, new talent system that worked(not like cataclysm stupidity) AND MOAR blizzard really delivered with MoP
I can only recommend not playing discipline priest in WOTLK. It is powerful, but the closer you get to LK, the closer you get to using powerword shield for 9/10 GCDs with only prayer of mending in between.
i always hated disc cuz if someone messed up a mechanic then the shield is now gone and it feels unoptimal to heal them. holy was always way more fun, and renew on people combated the aoe damage as well as healed up extra damage they take, or CoH did that. iLOVED dreamwalker and the GS glyph, id go crazy on that fight lol
For the sweatiest of hardcore pushers, comps are important, but wrath was overall an easy xpac and nearly every spec is great. The few examples of specs that are lower than B tier are just because they are pvp only specs (Ex: frost mage)
I mained a holy pally back in the day, want to do it again, but im hesistant to because the holy "Meta" thats coming. May stick to resto drood people sleep on them but my alt resto druid demolished back in origional wrath
U can only go holypriest if u got full t10 25nh if u dont have this gear cap any tree will easy overheal you and u get no raid :) So until 25 nh just shield anyone up and heal the Tanks :)
I main holy priest and agree with you, cause of lack of mana, when u gear it up it is playable if and gem it with the things u need :) i started as disc and converted to holy when i got good gear wanted to try it, made alot of macros since then and i love it atm alot more than disc
wrath phase 1 is coming to an end. end result was S tier holy pal and D priest. no one really want resto druid and only want 1 or 2 total shaman regardless of class.
Ranking is definitely wrong , holy paladin is Unquestionably overall the best healer in WRATH , the only indisputable S tier healer in the game . Every other spec is more or less equaly balanced , depending on specific fight they may be anywhere from D to A tier .
@@xe2014 Why are people so obsessed with Disc. Disc is a monster on very few fights (like 25% of a raid) while they are almost useless on any fight that plays around tankcentric damage. Holypal was decent to insane on every single one (not topping the meter on every fight, but never last either). If we take all fights and compare Disc to Resto and Resto, Disc is maybe even below Holy. Disc is insanely inconsistent and only really required on bosses like XT, Kolo, Anub or LK. Maybe Lana, but not really.
Too many people look at healing like DPS. Healed raid? Healed raid with more +healing? Easier? Who cares. Shaman will always be the healer you want in multiples. 1 Priest, 1 Druid, 1 Paladin, 2 Shaman is the standard comp.
I have always been a DPS since I started playing in MoP and I have been so scared to pick up a new playstyle, is healing going to be very hard to pick up and learn since you can only really practice it in group content? I have been very interested in playing a holy paladin.
I wouldn't recommend starting out with a hpally. Level and do dungeons in TBC classic...if you wanna try hpally. Better to learn it that way. Do not do a boost. You do not learn how to use your more rare spells properly that way. All the healers are good. Since my guild would force me to spend epgp on offspec gear. My heal set was always under geared. So I would play holy priest in heroic 10 man icc content. It had much more output for less gear. So if you wanna try hpally. Do not do it to top meters. You also will be 100%responsible for a tank death. If you are alliance I would recommend trying a shaman. But play whatever you like. Just practice it while leveling.
Wotlk healing is VERY whackamole You always have to be casting a heal..and if the tank doesnt need it. Cancel and start casting again. Tanks can literally get globaled it feels like. All heals usually keep a HoT or two on the tank
@@claudeyaz Holypal in Wrath is probably the easiest to play while also being the strongest, especially in ICC+. Tanks literally can't die, no matter how bad you are. The difference between a good and bad Holypal is just that you don't need innervates, cuz as a good Hpal you'll never lose mana.
im wanting to try out a healer and i can't really decide, i want to play one that can deal some decent damage if needed, able to hold their own in a fight
Healers aren't really damage dealers. That's what dual spec is for. I mean they aren't terrible. But leveling as a healer is kinds slow if your questing. One thing that kinda helps with certain classes is using dpe cast gear for the damage spells the do have. Since most Healers have a caster dps spec. Holly pallies have really good survivability tho if that's what you're looking for with plate armor and damage mit skills
Holy Paladins are not THAT good. I played one all through wrath. They are amazing Tank healer yes, but they suffer BAD raid AOE healing. There were many many times where groups would not have a holy pally because they were a one trick pony class. I think people are miss remembering them being ultra good. I would put them in the A class and both healing specs of priest in the S class. Raid healing is a huge part of wrath and groups that had good raid healing it did well in my experience.
ATTENTION: Please don't listen to this guy's advice for healers based on this tier ranking. Unless Wrath Classic greatly differs from both retail and private servers, this ranking is highly inaccurate.
Paladin should be the only S tier because it's the only healer you would actually want more than one of. Druids shaman and disc more than one would be a waste.
25 man raids S- paladin , disc , shamy , A-holy priest, B-resto druid, the utility you get from S classes is to good to pass like: paladins(Aura mastery, Divine sacrifice, Lay, Hand of Sacrifice, hand of salvation, JoL acting like one more healer) Shamans(totems as tremor, 5%spell haste, Mana tide and here, rest of the totem buffs can be done by other classes ) priest(the 3% is done by prot pala GBoS so not that good, PI, PS, Hymm's , not the best utility, BUT the shields are to good to pass, from 7k to 15k shields depending on gear, you can ignore some mecanics because of how good they are + it makes life so ez for other healer) in 10 man, depends on the raid composition but S is pala+shamy
I played a lot of Rdruid and it was boring as fk in raid. U get healsnipe every time. The only moment u can shine is when their is a looot of raid dommages. Playing Hpal was way more fun. There u can actually see the heals u make. And i can tell u that u will heal A LOT. For me it's S-Hpal, A-Rsham, B-Priest, C-Druid. U bring 2 Hpal, 2(3) Rsham, 1 Holypriest, 1 Dp, 1 Rdruid and that's it :)
i remember in the icecrown raid i healed the first 5-6 bosses solo on 10man HC on a druid because your mana pool was pretty much endless, but used a pala as main because i liked the fantasy more back then
Presentation: docs.google.com/presentation/d/198cnTj3U4R-unpqmlD5OofZVAotTKH5OuIF5McuFOUM/edit?usp=sharing
Spreading that misinformation like the Plague, you're doing the devils work son
i think you should add dmg has a good indicator of an healer a good healer doesnt just heals you need to do dps when you can in retail you need to do everything heal, interrupt, cc etc.. and do DPS
I’d love to hear more videos similar to how tanks / healers scale through Wrath of the Lich King, and where some healers are stronger. As an example, I played Resto Druid through all of Wrath and they scaled great into ICC, but on the Lich King, Disc priests were king because of how their shielding interacted with Infest, trivializing the mechanic. Great content, cheers!
Yeah, THis video clearly misses how important Disc are. You can bump Shammy down and put Disc up to S tier. Disc is almost required for the 2nd half of of all of Wraith thru Ruby Sanctum. You HAVE to have disc for lich king. That alone should make it S tier.
Holy pala and disc priest are OP. There's a few fights where disc priest just dominates (twin val'kyrs for example).
Heroic lich King too
@@Redemptionproject09 In Halion's Shadow realm a disco priest is mandatory
@Svilen Denchev if you are bad ya….
Disc Priest always dominated even in fights not normally disc-priest centric. They would help teams when they would stop wipes before they even happened. If your A-team had a disc priest it had room to take an extra hit teams that didn't have a disc priest couldn't. Disc priests would make sure there was PWS on everyone. That means any deathblow automatically was a save in WROTLK.
Between that, the burst healing abilities, and that super mana-efficient heal you can cast while you're moving, the disc priest was a jack-of-all-trades healer that can (briefly) do group heals at a massive mana disadvantage, secure a main tank temporarily between pain suppression etc, and generally adapt to the environment. They were used as the extra healer you really needed but didn't have hence their reputation as a requirement for the hardest bosses.
im happy disc priest getting the recognition (might be biased as i main it). I genuinely feel like people pass it off as sub par holy substitute. It's not, it has never been and never will be. Shielding is fundamentally different from healing. Ofc, it doesn't help that the class identity changes every xpac (sometimes more than once an xpac). They're also a class that can really capitalise on Crit healing (Divine Aegis was probably one of the best things to ever be brought to Disc priests, especially in MoP, imo). So I am glad people feel the same way i do! I've no issue with Holy Priests - mind you. They're as needed as disc priests, but they're not identical specs
The Paladin is just the king of WotLK, Top tier Heals, Tank, and DPS(with 2 piece Tier 10)
4 piece tier 10 for dps bro. The judgment damage increase can't be ignored, since it's your hardest hitting spell
@@svilendenchev9984 ye was gonna say, 2 set for Holy sure.
Just a tip for the Holy Priests: go for the Glyph of Guardian Spirit. With that glyph you will be able to use the GS in longer fights 2-3 even 4 times, with that you can be the ultimate saviour of your teammates :)
Great suggestion!
I'm sure your experience was this that Shaman, Druid and Paladin were top healers and Priests came second.
However, on both original WOTLK and Private servers I played Disc Priest Blood Elf, and doing things like 10man heroics. I never saw a paladin, druid, shaman or holy priest SOLO raid heal and keep tank alive on all fights in H TOC10 or H ICC10.
On a Disc Priest however, you can solo heal 10 man raids and 10 man heroics and keep your mana full as well.
If I were ranking it.
S Tier: Disc Priest
A Tier: Paladin, Shaman, Druid
B Tier: Holy Priest
What makes Disc priests be able to solo heal and why can't other healers do that?
Not true.. there are plenty vids around of hpal or hpriest solo healing icc 10hc... and prob other heal specs too
Anyway id rate hpal and disc as S, rdruid and shammy as A... hpriest b or c/situational
@@Wizardi1111 Its a combination of protective abilities like shields, insane heals off of prayer of mending, fast cast times and a whole raft of utilities. I found Disc Priests even pushed to max healing, rarely if ever ran out of mana. That essentially made them stand out. Mana efficiency with total throughput and utilities made them amazing. Compared to other classes where i felt that other classes mana was the sticking point, they would eventually run out of mana before a Disc Priest would. That makes all the difference. A holy paladin, shaman, druid or h priest can possibly solo heal a lot of fights, but in longer fights they would be tapped out of mana whilst the disc priest would still be going.
When I was playing Pservers as Holypal I was solo healing 10man heroic ICC with no problem, 12/12 bosses. (No, that Pserver wasnt massively bugged, Holypal is just highly overtuned in Wrath) Sure, I had all types of Trinkets and even Valanyr in my inventory for some fights but paladin is by far the most broken throughout the entire xpac. Discpriest only was needed on specific fights and was almost entirely useless when it came to heavy tankdamage fights (Except for their utility)
I respectfully disagree. I think in the majority of cases a d priest will contribute more to a raid than a shaman or druid. Most of my experience has come from private servers so maybe my info is skewed but I'd personally say h pally / d priest is the strongest healing combo in the game. We have to see what wotlk will bring us though. In short though one solid through healer and a healthy amount of shields for burst performs better than any other combination of healers paladins are by far the best healers. D priest is simply the most complimentary class to them.
Glyph of Holy Light is probably the most useful thing Holy Paladins get in this expansion. The glyph system in Wrath greatly effects all classes and specs in huge ways. Many glyphs are more important than new spells and talents, not mentioning them makes me question the research put into this list.
This isn’t a glyph or talent video. Makes me question your comprehension skills. Plenty of other videos out there that fully talk about both.
@@cruxe2372 surely they should be mentioned if he is ranking healers no?
@@erikzetterlund6997 no he clearly lists how he’s ranking them in the video. You don’t have to like it but he never said he was doing a deep research dive lol
I agree, this guy didn’t do a lot of research.
This glyph slapped so hard.
Not having Disc Priest at S tier is just sad! It's absolutely insane in Wrath.... You want 1 in EVERY raid.
i agree i think they slp on disc priest alot in wrath.
@@simix160 exactly you want one because more is a waste
Tier list is super helpful, though one thing to consider is if you are going to be using a rating system for things like 'utility' in isolation of healers, it doesn't really make sense if almost all classes are maxed out on utility. Are you scoring these relative to nonhealers or ranking them against each other?
one very important thing you did not touch on is that prayer of healing is now centered on your target rather than yourself, so you can use it to heal other raid groups. a very big buff
Weird that the list is so different from Rugs' list. He puts HPal and Disc on S-tier, Tree on A-tier, and RSham+HPriest on B-Tier.
His ideal healer setup for a 25 man is 2 Hpal, 1 Disc, 1 Tree, and either a HPriest or an RSham.
Of course, his list is very much based on Pserver experience, but healers have been more accurate than DPS, in terms of how closely Pservers have mapped to classic, at least thus far.
@@Redemptionproject09 Plus bloodlust. You need just one shaman for it. And resto as a healer is more valuable than enh or ele as dps
@Svilen Denchev just not true. Ele is god tier during t7 and t8.
@@xe2014 You still need just one shaman and getting another lock or a mage is just plain better
@Svilen Denchev it’s not though. Watch any server first kills on private servers and will you will see ele top5 if not number 1. It’s legit a top tier spec. If you are looking back at retail and saying this based on your experience I get that, but classic wotlk will not be the same as what you did. It will be in patch 3.3.5. THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
@Svilen Denchev enhance is also a god tier dps. If you are thinking it’s bad you may not know how the spec has progressed on private servers. During Naxx and through mid ulduar the spec plays with mainly spell power gear. They call it (spellhance)
I think you need to break down the tiers of raiding. Or even fights. At 0% Hellscream, resto druid is terrible on LK or LK HC. The raid healing is mostly breaking Infest. Which, due to their raid healing being HoTs, resto druids are terrible at doing. Unless you get a lucky Val'anyr proc, they have no mitigation to prevent the Infest from sticking in the first place, and the ticks aren't strong enough to out pace Infest's ramping damage until you get super geared and/or a higher Hellscream buff. Even using T8 4 piece, you just don't have the group burst healing you need to help. A second resto shammy is way more useful, or even a second Disco to keep 20+ members shielded and prevent Infest from ticking at all.
On most other fights, resto druids are at least good. On fights like Putricide or Valkyrs, where there's consistent slow burn raid damage, they are amazing. But resto druid generally won't be your go-to 10 man second healer. 10 man raids, holy pally + disco or resto shammy + disco is going to get you better mileage. With the exception of 10HC Putricide, where the extra energy from a resto druid on the abom will help immensely, and the raid damage again fits perfectly with the healing style of a resto.
So if you want a general tier list, I'd say Disco/Hpally/resto shammy as S tier. You will always want one, and for resto shammy two or even three in a 25 man team isn't bad. In 25HC, you need one of each. Holy priest is just redundant, and can't do anything another class can't do better. Tank healing, Hpally is better. Raid burst healing, resto shammy is better. Raid HoT healing, resto druid is better. Tank saving cd's, disco is better. Mitigation, disco is also better. Just use a second resto shaman, and you'll be happier. But they are more viable as a healer than a sub rogue is for DPS, so I'd say low B or high C. Resto druid, I'd say solid A, depending on how much weight you put into the LK fight compared to other fights. Their utter uselessness on LK and Saurfang is a big hit overall, especially with how much those fights are major gates to fight through. 3/12 in ICC is easy, and if you don't know the fights you stall out at DBS. But once your guild gets DBS down, you get to 6 or 7/12 easily that same week. And obviously the final Big Bad is the end goal. So if you value those fights significantly higher than the other bosses, than Resto Druid is B. If not, A.
I agree. In my opinion it makes the most sense to stack two shammys, and that's what most raids are gonna do.
Holy priest has better burst aoe healing than Shaman.
PoH + CoH can just pump a whole group from 0 - 100 whereas chain heal can't.
Also Divine Hymn is king healing cd.
I'm sorry but Hpriest stomps Rshams in AoE **Burst** healing by far.
You are clearly unaware what holy priest can do. Problem with hpriest is that he can only shine on huge aoe spike damage. Hpriest is also very difficult to utilize properly but in the right hands will perform better than any other heal. Being able to do everything that other heals can do is a curse, makes it hard to play. Shammy and rdruid are a joke
Pally is also good at tanking and dpsing in WOTLK. Its like the expansion was made for the class, statistic wise and lore wise.
@@jordandhaliwal2857 which is good. Ppl care about wow log score and M+ key scores in the retail, where I just quited as a casual.
@@jordandhaliwal2857 no, gear score was not taken seriously at all back then.
@@jordandhaliwal2857 Dont bother with pugs. WoW has some of the worst levels of toxicity. Play with friends or not at all. That's mainly the reason I quit in 2019... That, plus the grind in order to unlock flying in Shadowlands. As soon as I read that (still in BFA) i understood there's just no hope for this game/community to evolve.
@@diegorieragarcia6225 kappa
I love how people make a tier list and put every class but one on the A tier. You’ve probably never played wrath, because disc priest is nuts and easily an S tier healer, especially late game.
I love how toxic people are when someone has a different opinion to them :)
@@MrNickcrush Opinions don't matter, only cold hard numbers. And they back his statement. Its like DPS tier lists that don't even mention 2 handed blood dk's, these people have clearly not touched wrath.
As a previous oce first for LK kill disc priests are by far the best healer in wotlk anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional
@@zerkaoce7373 Holypal is the best healer throughout the entire xpac and every statistic shows it. Could solo 10man ICChc and 3man ICC25hc with 2Holypal/1Disc (Cuz its required for LKhc). Delusion and nostalgic. Play a Pserver for 10years and then tell me again that Disc is better than Hpal.
@@yan-zhilinn1402 lmao considering we got LK oceanic server first in the day, and im currently in a top 20 guild on retail i know what im talking about LOL
Holy pally single healing all of naxx was so fun lol
Im getting so hyped for Wrath and it is still at least a year out.
great information... But, would be nice to have a video running in the background to see the classes in action, this is similar to sitting in class on a power point presentation
One thing you missed: Disc priest also bring 10% dmg reduction on a target. Most disc priests I know grab inspiration (57/14/0)
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It's only physical dmg reduction.. so only useful for tanks in 99% of cases + shamans have the same effect too
Holy priests do so too
Disc and paladin are the only S tier healers. The others can heal, but disc and paladin allow you to ignore mechanics altogether. I hvae no idea what this guys is thinking.
My 2 cents:
Paladin is the best healer overall. Strong, fast, focused healing that is replicated onto the tank and tons of cooldowns.
Disc priest is the only healer that can keep up with the Paladin, and is only worse because you can’t stack them due to weakened souls and overlapping shields.
Resto druid brings the most utility and AoE healing, but lacks in focused fast heals (tank healing). However, revitalize is invaluable on the DPS and spread-able with Wild growth/Rejuv spam. RD also heals FOREVER with Clearcasting procs going into Lifebloom for a free cast that pops for 500 mana returned to the Druid. If played properly, this lends some Innervates to your other healer(s).
Resto Shaman and Holy Priest are viable but don’t have a true strength like those above, though I’d rate resto sham over Holy priest mostly due to having Lust.
Best combo (2 healer team) is gonna be HPal + Disc or Resto Druid, depending on whether u want more true healing power or more utility/buffs.
What utility does druid have that's better then the other healers?
@@Crowsnestdesigns revitalize, battle res, and the invaluable innervate. A properly played resto druid is never oom, and innervating your HPal gives them a full mana bar of mana from scratch. BRes can come in very handy. Revitalize and the sheer AOE fashion of resto Druid healing complements a true main healer very well
Ummm Pali is top for wotlk. Then disc priest followed by Druid/shaman and holy is the worse healer in wotlk. Bro I love your vids most of the time but where are you getting this info from?
U are doing awesome work mate,thx u are bro!
would have loved to see some spells in action and not those motionless information screens. still a good comparison though. is wotlk also your favorite expansion? it is mine for sure
Lets just hope Blizzard does not bankrupt b4 the release.
I would argue that disc only looked good cuz its "healing" was calculated before anybody else. In most cases HoTs as well as HL/CH were just stronger. Rejuv could basically counteract 6 pulses of a boss aoe damage (like on PP and BQL) where as PW:S could only do 3. And then bombing huge HL and CH on the tanks which then healed other people due to glyph and just how the spells works, was incredibly strong. There werent any like, big raid damage mechanics that I can remember where having extra fake health meant people survived.
Why are you are right that other healers could perform more under the right circumstances. Those circumstances didn’t happen so it doesn’t matter. Along with having damage that never goes off is way better than having to heal it later. Less chance of people dying. So I disagree with you on a practical level while you’re still correct on the theoretical one
Atonement as a disc Priest is also insane
Best healer = dk tank. I’ve done H dungeons with 4 dps and no healer with barely 3.2 bis gear. I also frequently out healed the holy pally that babysat me in 10man raids.
Mate Blood DK selfhealing wasn't a thing in Wrath. If you didn't get heals for 3 seconds you were laying on the ground screaming at your raid. This is not Shadowlands, this is Wrath.
@@yan-zhilinn1402 you are just remembering 3.35 thinking that was the state bdkt was at the entire expansion. Nope.
2 paladins and a disc priest all the healers you need in Wotlk
And a resto shaman for bloodlust
2 pally, 1 disc, 1 resto druid 1 resto sham. Which is what I like. You have armor types well balanced for loot distribution, all heal classes utility, all their strength and weaknesses, which are covered by the others strengths. If this healer layout does a good team effort they carry an entire raid. ( I'd actually take the druid only for heal intensive fights and leave him out/have him go dps when you need more DPS. )
@@RoxxSerm i see you all forgot about all the DKs soloing bosses lol. They out heal us all.
@@ooxKINGKONGxoo DK wasn't in Wrath like it is now in SL my guy. If DK's didn't recieve any healing inside of a 3 second window they were dead. DK had absolutely no selfhealing in Wrath (If you talk about Dungeons, sure. But any tank could do it except warrior)
"some consider" the number dont lie it was their pinocle people can consider all they want its fact
This is excellent! I think AoE healing would have added a very useful dynamic to look at for each spec.
Thanks :)
I don't fully agree on holy priests here. IMO they are the best raid healers in WOTLK when mastered. I outhealed any other healer with ease back in the day and it's the most fun healer class to play at the same time. POM, CoH, PoH in conjunction with stacking crit is OP as f. For tank healing i'd switch to Disc.
Agree, Holypriest is better than it's rep. But in terms of HPS no healer comes even close to holypaladins. No Restosham, no Holy. Holypriest was a good combination of both Restos, very versatile. But nothing compared to Holypal. Holypal on a scale (general, not specific bosses) is probably about 50%+ better than the second healer.
Considering how off the TBC tier lists ended up being, I don’t trust any info based on private servers.
Shielding should be 1 to pala, shamy and druid, cause the only shielding they can provide is with valanyr, but they need to acquire that, whilst priests can shield more, and in cata the absorption is a bit more balanced, as holy barely does any absorbing shields, maybe on tanks or to save someone and disc just overloaded with shields, the talent for crits and the bubbles.
Thanks for video! Did much raid healing in original Wotlk as druid. Was curious how they were now in new classic wow. Have the good memories but no want to do again.
FYI, holy paladins STILL not having ancestral fort/inspiration hurts is so much more than you think.
I raided a bunch in ICC then I stopped playing in cata. I just got back into wow and now it seems completely different. I'm thinking of going back to wow classic for this lol
S - Shaman, Druid. A - Holy Priest. B - Paladin. C - Disc Priest
Since I never played wotlk and purely by this video I can deduce that priest is a uselless class that wont be able to get into raiding endgame without other players having to babysit me.
I feel like you can have 1 of each Healer in a 25 man and then, if you want another healer, HPal and RSham are the best choices to stack.
Ideally you want 1 each of Disc, Druid, Shaman, and Pal. Then if you need an additional healer you bring a Holy Priest to supplement wherever you’re lacking.
What about dreamstate druid? :p jk
Anyhow, so there's a problem i see with some of the comments. "Druids don't heal that much" No, they really do, the problem is the nature of HoT's is that while the HoT's are rolling, they are mostly just overhealing.
This is where paladins shine because of the low cast reaction nature of it, they can effectively 'spot heal' the moment damage goes out where they know where the damage is and still tank heal. Even if paladin heals were weaker, the fact it's tank and spot healing on low cast times gives it SUCH a huge advantage, and further, it's mana efficiency. Every other class is either "AoE heal" or "single target spot heal" so they can't exactly capitalize on this huge bonus.
Wotlk is infamous for being a raid expansion where it's not 'everyone takes the damage all at once' like it is in more recent raid expansions, so AoE healers don't get to abuse circle of healing or chain heal like other expansions. This is undoubtedly the holy paladin's expansion (after sucking so hard in tbc)
Currently playing dalarand wow wotlk server it's awesome to see this
Disc priest go exceptionally well with a prot pally.😊
you missed area healing (or multi players healing). In my opinion
Holy priest 10/10
Shaman 8/10
Druid 6/10
Disc priest 2/10
Holy paladin 2/10
Great analysis! Are you going to play a healer in Wrath?
I think I'll do. For sure resto shaman
Resto sham has definitely better AoE healing capacity than holy priest when haste capped
@@Vikzl Haste capped, agree. But Holy is more a spec for pre- TOGC content.
@@Vikzl Hpriest destroys Rsham in AoE burst healing when capped too.
PoH + CoH can top a whole 5m group from 0-100 in 1 cast whereas Chain heal can't come close to that.
Which healer has the easiest time in Heroic Dungeons? I dont think I ll have the time to raid but I will definitely run lot of heroic dungeons (which Blizzard said will buff them to not be very easy). I am looking for a healer tier list but for dungeons instead. Thanks! I do like all healers. I would prefer to play Discipline but not sure how it performs as lone healer in a dungeon. Next one is probably Resto druid or resto shaman
You can do fine in HC dungeons with any healer. The easiest ones probably shaman and pala.
i see you all forgot about all the DKs soloing bosses lol. They out heal us all.
To be honest Mists of Pandaria was the last Blizzard game but people don't like it because of its visual theme
Wont subscribe this. I loved MoP
@@diskuslars7527 , new class and new race in one expansion, new addition to lore and never told story, completely new designs of characters and environments, new talent system that worked(not like cataclysm stupidity) AND MOAR
blizzard really delivered with MoP
@@mihanshid2158 delivered pandas. U make me laugh
Love your WOTLK content. Hoping you continue to make more!
When you're disc priest and the tank loses his bubble less than 1 second into a trash pull: Haha I'm in danger
Pain Surpression :) And oh u have an almost immortal tank. Don't hate it before u play it
I can only recommend not playing discipline priest in WOTLK. It is powerful, but the closer you get to LK, the closer you get to using powerword shield for 9/10 GCDs with only prayer of mending in between.
i always hated disc cuz if someone messed up a mechanic then the shield is now gone and it feels unoptimal to heal them. holy was always way more fun, and renew on people combated the aoe damage as well as healed up extra damage they take, or CoH did that. iLOVED dreamwalker and the GS glyph, id go crazy on that fight lol
I love that resto shaman picture with the tauren wearing t6. who made that?
Holy Pallys in Wotlk was the best Main that the whole expansion was so fun and easy lmfao.
Funny all those CZcamsrs create 5+ categories, and in the end nearly all Classes are in the S-Tier... - Why?? Because they are "all quite good"??
For the sweatiest of hardcore pushers, comps are important, but wrath was overall an easy xpac and nearly every spec is great. The few examples of specs that are lower than B tier are just because they are pvp only specs (Ex: frost mage)
I mained a holy pally back in the day, want to do it again, but im hesistant to because the holy "Meta" thats coming. May stick to resto drood people sleep on them but my alt resto druid demolished back in origional wrath
The precipices? You mean the epitome or peak? Precipice means a steep cliff.
Holy priest is pretty good, my favorite healer in wotlk, better than disc if you know how to use it properly which most of ppls don't.
No, u need disc in every raid for its bubbles.. u can replace hpriest easily with extra hpal or rsham
Holy pala, Disc priest
Shaman, resto druid
Holy priest
U can only go holypriest if u got full t10 25nh if u dont have this gear cap any tree will easy overheal you and u get no raid :)
So until 25 nh just shield anyone up and heal the Tanks :)
If you are comparing holy priest to resto druid, you probably don’t know how to play holy priest very well and only understand one place style.
Holy priests are the best raid healers in WOTLK when mastered.
I main holy priest and agree with you, cause of lack of mana, when u gear it up it is playable if and gem it with the things u need :) i started as disc and converted to holy when i got good gear wanted to try it, made alot of macros since then and i love it atm alot more than disc
AWESOME thumbs up!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
wrath phase 1 is coming to an end. end result was S tier holy pal and D priest. no one really want resto druid and only want 1 or 2 total shaman regardless of class.
So a shaman with brooch from viscidus is busted in wrath?
Resto Druid so OP in Wrath
Resto druid is my favourite
Ranking is definitely wrong , holy paladin is Unquestionably overall the best healer in WRATH , the only indisputable S tier healer in the game . Every other spec is more or less equaly balanced , depending on specific fight they may be anywhere from D to A tier .
It’s probably best healer, but disc priest is a very close second. Would also put it in S tier easily
@@xe2014 Why are people so obsessed with Disc. Disc is a monster on very few fights (like 25% of a raid) while they are almost useless on any fight that plays around tankcentric damage. Holypal was decent to insane on every single one (not topping the meter on every fight, but never last either). If we take all fights and compare Disc to Resto and Resto, Disc is maybe even below Holy. Disc is insanely inconsistent and only really required on bosses like XT, Kolo, Anub or LK. Maybe Lana, but not really.
Really Resto shaman over a Disc priest? Interesting.
Too many people look at healing like DPS. Healed raid? Healed raid with more +healing? Easier? Who cares. Shaman will always be the healer you want in multiples. 1 Priest, 1 Druid, 1 Paladin, 2 Shaman is the standard comp.
That or 2 holy pallies and only one sham
I have always been a DPS since I started playing in MoP and I have been so scared to pick up a new playstyle, is healing going to be very hard to pick up and learn since you can only really practice it in group content? I have been very interested in playing a holy paladin.
I wouldn't recommend starting out with a hpally. Level and do dungeons in TBC classic...if you wanna try hpally. Better to learn it that way. Do not do a boost. You do not learn how to use your more rare spells properly that way.
All the healers are good.
Since my guild would force me to spend epgp on offspec gear.
My heal set was always under geared. So I would play holy priest in heroic 10 man icc content. It had much more output for less gear.
So if you wanna try hpally. Do not do it to top meters. You also will be 100%responsible for a tank death.
If you are alliance I would recommend trying a shaman. But play whatever you like. Just practice it while leveling.
Wotlk healing is VERY whackamole
You always have to be casting a heal..and if the tank doesnt need it. Cancel and start casting again. Tanks can literally get globaled it feels like.
All heals usually keep a HoT or two on the tank
@@claudeyaz Holypal in Wrath is probably the easiest to play while also being the strongest, especially in ICC+. Tanks literally can't die, no matter how bad you are. The difference between a good and bad Holypal is just that you don't need innervates, cuz as a good Hpal you'll never lose mana.
@@claudeyaz sounds exactly like tbc healing. Many times the tank im healing died the second i stopped healing to redrop a single totem.
im wanting to try out a healer and i can't really decide, i want to play one that can deal some decent damage if needed, able to hold their own in a fight
Healers aren't really damage dealers. That's what dual spec is for. I mean they aren't terrible. But leveling as a healer is kinds slow if your questing. One thing that kinda helps with certain classes is using dpe cast gear for the damage spells the do have. Since most Healers have a caster dps spec. Holly pallies have really good survivability tho if that's what you're looking for with plate armor and damage mit skills
lol since when cant disc priest spec into inspiration...
I always took inspiration in our raids so our shaman didnt have to take it and could put full points to increase their earthliving weapon spell.
Holy Paladins are not THAT good. I played one all through wrath. They are amazing Tank healer yes, but they suffer BAD raid AOE healing. There were many many times where groups would not have a holy pally because they were a one trick pony class. I think people are miss remembering them being ultra good. I would put them in the A class and both healing specs of priest in the S class. Raid healing is a huge part of wrath and groups that had good raid healing it did well in my experience.
Tanks next pls
Coming tomorrow! :)
Do we know when wotlk classic is coming out?
Not yet, hoping for an announcement soon!
@@Toyhouze Sept 26th
Let's just be honest for a sec. Paladin is BIS for every raid position 🤣
Holy Paladin is above S tier tbh
It’s a healing shield so I count it as a shield.
*Absorbing and yes it is a shield duuuh :DD
This seems like a tier list made from TBC strength characters, this list is completely wrong other than Hpala and disc.
Sorry man but I think you are objectively wrong with this tier list. Disc and holy paladin are indisputably the best healers in wotlk.
ATTENTION: Please don't listen to this guy's advice for healers based on this tier ranking. Unless Wrath Classic greatly differs from both retail and private servers, this ranking is highly inaccurate.
Most easy healer out of these?
Holy paladin
best this best that, play what you want not what is meta
sheeps.
Paladin should be the only S tier because it's the only healer you would actually want more than one of. Druids shaman and disc more than one would be a waste.
25 man raids S- paladin , disc , shamy , A-holy priest, B-resto druid, the utility you get from S classes is to good to pass like: paladins(Aura mastery, Divine sacrifice, Lay, Hand of Sacrifice, hand of salvation, JoL acting like one more healer) Shamans(totems as tremor, 5%spell haste, Mana tide and here, rest of the totem buffs can be done by other classes ) priest(the 3% is done by prot pala GBoS so not that good, PI, PS, Hymm's , not the best utility, BUT the shields are to good to pass, from 7k to 15k shields depending on gear, you can ignore some mecanics because of how good they are + it makes life so ez for other healer)
in 10 man, depends on the raid composition but S is pala+shamy
Druid best healing fight me
No need to fight, it's not. Stats say so.
@@yan-zhilinn1402 OK let's fight 😤 lol
So so sick of op priests lol
It's always PVE... FCKN SIGH
I played a lot of Rdruid and it was boring as fk in raid. U get healsnipe every time. The only moment u can shine is when their is a looot of raid dommages. Playing Hpal was way more fun. There u can actually see the heals u make. And i can tell u that u will heal A LOT. For me it's S-Hpal, A-Rsham, B-Priest, C-Druid. U bring 2 Hpal, 2(3) Rsham, 1 Holypriest, 1 Dp, 1 Rdruid and that's it :)
more boring playing holy pally when 50% of your heals if just judgement of light haha
i remember in the icecrown raid i healed the first 5-6 bosses solo on 10man HC on a druid because your mana pool was pretty much endless, but used a pala as main because i liked the fantasy more back then
@@facehugger8995 Yes, Yes it is.
@@facehugger8995 The only time judgement actually heals is on fights with constant aoe auras, like Sindra (most notable for sure).
@@Brat2513 You could heal 12/12 ICC10hc solo as Holypal. Sure, you needed 6.3+ with Valanyr, but having 7-8dps per fight made ICC a blast.