9G Tronic Transmission Service Fluid Level Check known as 9Speed 725.0 NAG3 W9A700 JR913E
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- 9 Speed Mercedes GLE350D 9G Tronic 725.0 NAG3 W9A700 JR913E Automatic Transmission Service & Fluid Change Oil Change Special Tool required which has a key to select 1. Filling, 2. Slow Level Check, 3. Fluid level Check at 39C, 4. Drain Fluid ( approx 1cm fluid will remain in Transmission Pan )
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Nice video, i´ve been looking for a full and detailed description for a long time.
Thank you for that!
glad if helped, hopefully deserves a beer ! link is in description cheers
Great video!
I have seen several videos on the 725 kit that range from ok/good to almost unwatchable!
So glad to say that yours is steady, really informative and you show the annoyances & workarounds needed in the real world…
Top job - thanks for your efforts!
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no worries, thanks & cheers
fantastic video, you guys actually took your time and explained it in detail .. i’m a mechanic in toronto and it’s getting harder servicing transmissions and making a honest living like we use to . Cheers
thanks & cheers
This really helped me with my 2022 Nissan Titan. Thank you very much!
great to hear. cheers
I have a 22 Frontier. Can you share which tools you bought for this?
This is a great video and I watched it a few times before doing this on my S560 with the 725. Thank you for making this. I used Xentry to get the oil level at once the fluid warmed up. I wanted to get an ultrasound shop tool for future use.
no worries, cheers
@@YepThatsIt do these trans have overfill release valves? I have some oil on the ground, but everything is shifting and working smooth.
I forgot that was a deisel and when you were getting up to temp it freaked me out for a second haha
no worries. cheers
Thanks tomorrow am doing gear 205 9G tonic transmission 9 speed automatic transmission service
no worries, cheers
thank you for sharing
thanks & cheers
Top video.. beer money is on its Way. 👌👍
cheers for that !
Thanx Buddy
Just a tip on the transmission oils as I work on Mercs but only done one of these 9 speed transmissions so wanted a refresher. The oil you had there gives earlier spec stuff on the tin.
236.14 red oil. Older transmissions without start stop.
236.15 blue oil. 7 speed with start stop. FE (fuel efficiency)
236.17 gold. New 9 speed transmission. 9G tronic.
Mercedes are a nightmare for changing part numbers.
The black tube inside the pan which doesn't do anything is for external ultrasound level reading. Special tool.
thanks for that. cheers
Mercedes technican here.
the 722.9 trans (7g) uses red oil 236.14 if its model year 10 or under. and it uses blue oil 236.15 if its model year 11 or up.
remember mercedes changes model year in the middle of the year.
the 725 trans (9g) uses 236.17 oil in the trans and 236.15 oil in the transfer case.
i have done more oil changes on these than i have wanted to do lol.
@@chrisa840 Does the GLE w166 with 9g tronic use 236.17 for the transmission and 236.15 for the transfer case as well? Thx
@@agondokusumo-111 if i remember correctly, yes
@@chrisa840 my gle 2018 showroom mechanic said done atf change at 60000 km now it's 66000 but I checked yesterday after running 100 km and it showed black colour will the transmission fluid shows black colour if we check ATF after running or is the ATF needs to be changed
Nice video,
Theres a drain plug in the torque converter you can undo to drain 4 more litres.
Remove rubber plug under bell housing, Then rotate crank pulley until you see plug,
Its a 4mm hex and takes a while to fully drain
awesome info, always good to share..cheers for that
And it's a very soft screw....easily strippable.
Sorry about the question but can you show me where exactly is that plug in the torque converter. And which is torque converter. I’ll do it by myself
@@BoqnSlavkov
Just in front of the pan, there is a rubber or plastic plug, you pry it out(its just a dust cover).
Then you have to turn/rotate the crankshaft pulley with a socket+ratchet while looking through the hole where the plug/dust cover was with inspection light until you see 4mm hex head bolt. Remove bolt to drain torque converter, it drains slowly so will take 15mins or so.
I would like to do this but how the hell to turn the engine? the crank pulley is completely blocked by the intercooler, the alt pulley has no hex, there's nothing to put a socket wrench on..
excellent video thanks!! i guess whats important is pos. 1 is FILL - pos. 4 is full DRAIN - pos. 3 drainoff EXCESS when @ correct 39 deg.C temp. - do i have that right? well done.
Thanks for the great video, when you jack up the transfer case to get to the most hidden bolt, assuming you move the transmission and engine up as well ?
hi, yes it should lift a bit for better access. cheers
You poured oil into 9g tronic without MB 236.17 approval, not bad))
And they placed a pan of dubious origin))
thanks & cheers
Hello, thanks for the video. I have my transmission oil changed 8 months ago, and I noticed now that this first cap is leaking oil. Can I just replace it with the new cap. It shouldn't drain much oil if I open it for replacement cap? Thanks
hi, depends how quick you are? cheers
Merchandise is a nickname for Mercedes 😆 🤣 😂
cheers
Did you fill only approx 5 litres?
Can you give me the part number of the special tool?
Many thanks for the video
Thanks for the video. I didn’t see you cycle through the gears after initial fill and car start and before reaching temp of 39. Is this not part of procedure?
hi, thanks for pointing that out, i`d say i probably didn`t film alot of stuff i should`ve and/or edited it out ? cheers
So number 1 to add. Number 4 to drain and if I want to check fluid level after refilling then I'm selecting number 3?
hi, watch the vid again. will make more sense once you start doing it. cheers
Why flip it to position 1 when it is coming out at full stream on the final step? Wouldn’t you want to wait until oil stops coming out to flip it to position 1 to know that it isn’t over full?
hi, rewatch vid where i show the tap inside pan. cheers
@@YepThatsIt I did. If it’s an overflow, why would you close it when fluid is still coming out?
So I did the fluid change but not sure about the level how do I correct the level do I add fluid when the car is off on position 1 then let it spit out the overflow then start the car and let it reach 39 then flick it to position 3 and let it trickle
hi, watch vid again especially toward end from about 14:00 . you can top up a bit at position 3 while motor running if needs a bit more fluid cheers
@@YepThatsItthank you for the reply . Just a question so I went ahead and removed the drain plug with the car OFF fluid was coming out !!. Does that mean it’s overfilled because in the video when you first removed the drain plug to start changing the fluid nothing was coming out . I closed it back up and started the car and went down after going through all the gears of course I removed the plug nothing was coming out so I added 500 ml then waited for the temp to hit 39 then flicked to position 3 until a trickle flow coming out like in the video and closed it . What do you think ? Cheers 🥂
Could u possibly post the part number for that silver fill adapter u used for filling?
no sorry
It’s a 5 x 12 Mercedes transmission adapter, you will find it on the web
How often or after how many km does it need transmission service?
hi, we recommend transmission filter service every 50,000km when trans has done under 200,000km, then when over 200,000km service every 25,000km. dont forget to add magnets and bypass heat exchanger. cheers
I'm confused bc then u say number 1 will trickle out but thought 1 was for adding?
hi, is a bit confusing, but will all make sense once you start doing it. cheers
Why didn't you drain toque converter?
hi, i seem to get this same question regularly ! typically hydraulics is not same as engine or gearbox/differential/transfer case service. we only ever do a complete flush if coolant/water has entered transmission, owner specifically requests complete flush or incorrect fluid has somehow been added. generally by replacing with fresh fluid with what comes out of transmission, is adequate to re-boost oil qualities/properties. but however having said that, we also like to use lubegard products to help enhance the fluid properties. it is more beneficial to do a regular transmission filter service ( not just a fluid drop ) add extra magnets and to also bypass the heat exchanger or radiator to eliminate chance of coolant entering trans and to help keep fluid cooler, this helps to retain the fluid properties longer as it breaks down with heat. choice is yours cheers
Hmm.. was gonna do the trans drop myself since I’m at 120k (and out of warranty) I like my transmission too much to subject it to my devil may care mechanic style
no worries, thanks & cheers
I have a 22 frontier and want to do the transmission change myself .to save money but also I don't trust dealers to actually do the job right .they use non OEM fluids ,I've had bolts loose after having repairs,they've scratched and chipped my rims like they didn't care about my vehicle so I really need to learn how to do this cheaply and by myself .I am assuming the tools are the same for the Nissan and Mercedes when it comes to transmissions change tools
hi, if tools fit then use them. often the tool behind the tool is the most useful. cheers
Have you done this on your Frontier yet? I'm acquiring tools, parts, and oil now to do mine. I have 103k mi already.
@@stevelash5821 no. I had to get the parking pawl recall done and hoped they would change it then but they didn't .they actually did something weird bc my tranny started chirping after every gear selection after they did the recall .so with that ,the fact that the dealership always did half assed work everytime I went there,damaged my brand new rims,left sensors unplugged,and bc I have the rough idle issue I traded it in on a newer ram 1500 and couldn't be happier ...great little truck but my dealership was horrible and I wasn't gonna drive hrs away to a diff dealership I already did that with my Toyota and wasted all my vacation time doing so and they still didn't fix the issue so I don't do that anymore
Did you replace the bolts when changing the filter/pan?
hi, no we dont unless bolts are damaged or insisted by owner. cheers
@@YepThatsIt Thanks. Where did you get the transmission filter from? Was that the Vaico 725.0 transmission filter?
@@YepThatsIt, but those are torque-to-yield bolts (4nm + 90 degrees), and they have been stretched already on the first time this pan was installed. And if you apply the same procedure, then the risk of breaking them is high. I had cases where I simply didn't have the bolts, but I would then tighten them by feel and not carry the 90-degree procedure.
Have you changed the oil in the wandler
hi, i am assuming a wandler is a torque converter ? no, the fluid in torque converter wasnt changed. we only flush as much fluid out of trans when fluid has coolant in it. doing a normal pan drop is sufficient to boost the fluid properties. if the fluid is very burnt and contaminated then a full flush usually makes trans worse because contaminated fluid is usually thicker than new clean fluid, so if you have internal wear and pressure leaks, thinner new fluid will leak through those locations much easier. on these transmissions a hot flush is usually done to clean out the thermal valve that is in cooling line. the only way to flush a torque converter is to cut it open. if you know the operation of a torque converter you will know alot of heat and high flow pass through it anyway. cheers
thank you for the answer, I have not had contact with such a transmission. this is my private car and I wonder if the replacement is exactly the same as the 7g tronic. some say you must have a service program with an oil level check function.
how much are you guys getting out? on pos4 i only got 2.5L
hi, rewatch the vid. cheers
Hey buddy, how about 3-4 liters in torque converter? Not changing 50% of the oil is really bad job.
hi, in an auto transmission the fluid is there mainly for lubrication and hydraulic purposes. this is why you buy transmission oil, but once its in the transmission it becomes fluid. trans fluid is not like engine oil, whereas it also acts like a filter and needs more frequent changing. we only do a full flush/fluid change when coolant or water has entered the transmission. however we have done job/tests and found, that to effectively change all the fluid properly and completely, you will need to do it 4 or 5 or more times. thats alot of oil ! you can check our other vids related to your statement czcams.com/video/1paq5RbiTNQ/video.html & czcams.com/video/Veu5h5evTiY/video.html if there are no issues and you are doing just a trans service, it is more important to clean the pan and magnets ( add magnets as well ) and replace filter/s, just replacing the fluid that comes out is generally enough to boost the fluids required properties ( we also recommend to add lubegard products )....many people compare transmission service to an engine service, and many will just do an oil drain without removing and cleaning the magnets and filter service, if the trans pan has a drain plug. choice is yours ! we will do whatever the customer decides when they are explained the options. cheers
nowadays torque converters don't hold 3-4 liters anymore. This specific model will be able to drain about 500ml-600ml.
@@kosta16auto pretty sure the TC on these Mercedes hold 4-5L as the quoted capacity of the transmission is 10L!
I took off the plug and realized I don't have the tool should I be fine to drive home?
hi, low fluid level is not good. cheers
@@YepThatsIt well i made it home jus fine it was like 1/2 qt low, so not bad at all
Auto manufacturers complicate everything
i don`t think they ever think about future repairs. cheers
What’s wrong with a dipstick ?
haha its called technology. cheers
Great video, however, you can tell MB that they can simplify the process, this would really help their dealership mechanics. They can service more cars in a day, month and year globally. Make all of the fluid changes simple and easy like the Japanese.
they don`t listen to me...thanks & cheers
People don't follow this video, you risk damaging your transmission. This mecanic fails to show key steps of the procedure!
hi which key steps are you referring to?
@@alinemotorcare8903 in the Sentry software to check the level without an ultrasonic gauge, you have to bleed the 5 valves in the trans with the software, then get the car between 2800-3500 rpm for 2 second in neutral, then idle rpm, then around 1200 rpm is when you do the measurement with the key, the software will automatically set the RPMs for the last part.
hi, no worries, cheers
wow !
You’re supposed to cycle though the different gears (PRNDL) at operating temp and then check the oil level, why did you not perform that part of the process? Skipping it means you didn’t cycle the trans fluid through the valve bodies and thus the trans fluid level could be off.
hi, just because may have not recorded doesnt mean wasnt done. cheers
@@YepThatsIt it would’ve have been helpful to see it done. Thats an integral step and people who are doing the service on their own would’ve benefited by having some instruction on how it do it, at the very least it should’ve been mentioned that it’s a necessary step.