Is 'Laser' MDF worth the extra money?
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I know this is 2 years later, but that pin bed is awesome!
Thank you. It served me well but I have now got an omtech removable bed. I have been cutting things that just fall through the pins and sometimes get stuck
The most important consideration here is that laserable MDF is manufactured using E1 low fume glue which gives off considerably lower levels of formaldehyde gas when lasering.
As soon as he said that he used different speeds, this comment became the only usable information on the whole post.
They only tell you that😂
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Some manufacturers/suppliers state E1 glue but are unable to back up their claim or provide evidence.
More reputable manufacturers/suppliers will provide a material data sheet upon request while others provide a downloadable .pdf file on their website.
The Builders Merchant MDF or hardboard sheets are formaldehyde free. At least they are here in the USA.
Good video. The Builders Merchant MDF or hardboard sheets are formaldehyde free. At least they are here in the USA.
Hi Phil,thanks for taking the time and effort for the video.
Interesting. I like wood experiments👍 Regards JP
I knew there was a difference!
I have to say that I am currently using the standard 3mm MDF due to cost and supply issues. It's been great to work with and really consistent results
@@philscraftcorner It is good, and I find it sturdier than the other MDF, but it's also a little bit harder to cut. I do prefer the effect of the cutting and engraving in it, it scorches a lot less
Learning which materials work for you and the specific job you have on is half of the fun
isn't one of the properties of laser mdf that it has less chemicals in it that might be harmful when burnt. Must say most people vent so not a problem. Perhaps a bit more time with the strength would have provided some real number even if just a hanging weighing scale used to pull it so we could see at what pull force it broke.
There has been a long debate about the safety of using MDF for all kinds of uses. Most companies these days, especially in Europe and the US have to conform to pretty strict safety guidelines meaning they have to restrict the levels of harmful chemicals used in production of MDF.
From what documentation I could find, the levels of chemicals in both lots conform with E1 and CARB phase 2 safety levels.
As for the strength test. Yes I definitely could have set up a method of being more accurate with how well they perform. I will look into doing another video based on this soon. It was a spur of the moment while recording that I decided to test the strength
Hey ! I've just discovered the risk of mdf with engraving/cutting due to formaldéhyde. Im using Xtool M1 machine with machine ventilation outside. Is it risky in my set up to grave/cut MDF ? For the environnement ?
There's a risk of fumes with every material you cut and engrave. Suppliers in US and Europe have strict rules about how much formaldehyde is allowed to go into their bonding agents. Although it's not perfectly safe, it's also not as dangerous as people claim. Just keep the fume extraction on and you will be fine.
Thank you for your answer, I appreciate your dedication 🫶
Some MDF isn't safe to engrave. How do you pick the safe one from builder merchant.
All modern MDF has to comply with strict safety rules with what levels of glue formaldehyde etc.
'laser' MDF does have lower levels of chemicals though.
Nothing is completely safe to cut and engrave. Always have good extraction on your machine
I tried MDF fiberboard and all the cut edges got soot all over them and it transfers to my hands and the pieces. Is mine different from Laser MDF?
Standard MDF boards give off a little more residue, if there is that much soot coming off I suggest you check your speed and power settings. You are either using too much power or too little speed
hey Phil..interesting. I get my mdd =from Hobarts, always pleased with it - but I do think its a little pricey for what it is. Do you know builders merchants who cut it down for you? As I dont have the machinery to do this, so always buy mine cut to 300x500mm. I only get 5o sheets at a time though lol
Hi, I'm lot sure of any online that will cut to size for a reasonable price.
Kitronik seem to be the best place for them cut to size, or laser supplies UK.
Most local builders merchants will cut to size for you too.
Buying in bulk and cutting to size to re sell has been something I have been thinking of doing in the future though
what is mdf ?
It's medium density fibre board. It's a man made board that has a more smooth surface than plywood. It's not as strong though
is it safe to use standard mdf using a diode laser?
I wouldn't consider any material safe on a diode laser without a fume box. Any lasering that you do will just put the fumes into your room
I have a very efficient fume extraction system so no worries there
Should be all set then 👍
Where did you get the bed with all the pins in it?
I made it myself with rivets
@phil's craft corner glued down or loose?
They are loose for now but I'm planning on making another pretty soon
@phil's craft corner I would be tempted to glue them down in a bed of epoxy
The board at the bottom has holes cut out to hold them in pretty snug. But it's only 4mm MDF and it flexes quite a bit..I'm thinking of going with a thicker board and gluing them in on the next one
Turn your sound up a bit please. I found your hard to hear, or, am I hard of hearing. LOL