Truck vs SUV! Which Is Better Off-Road - Hyundai Santa Cruz or Tucson?

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  • čas přidán 2. 06. 2022
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    In this video, Andre and Nathan take the Hyundai Santa Cruz and Tucson on Tombstone Hill to answer the age old question: which is better off-road, a truck or car?
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Komentáře • 134

  • @curtbrown554
    @curtbrown554 Před 2 lety +5

    As for the statement that most people won't use the bed, we've had our Santa Cruz for 8 months and something has been in the bed everyday. It's so nice to have the comfort of an SUV, and a bed to put golf clubs, groceries, and plants into without worrying about dirt and spillage. We have the Limited and it's the best all around vehicle we've owned, and we've owned over 30 vehicles. Great road trip car.

    • @wolfshanze5980
      @wolfshanze5980 Před rokem

      I've never understood what you do for grocery shopping when it's RAINING outside!

    • @kenyaswallow5782
      @kenyaswallow5782 Před rokem

      @@wolfshanze5980 there's a cover you can slide to shut

  • @Ryan_Galka
    @Ryan_Galka Před 2 lety +7

    Andrey and Nathan best team ever

  • @WW-wf8tu
    @WW-wf8tu Před 2 lety +6

    Some say he was stolen from a carnival. Some say he was found in a stuffing factory leading a revolt. All we know is, he is called JEFF!

  • @masonschneider5470
    @masonschneider5470 Před 2 lety +44

    And this is why it was so very stupid for Hyundai/Kia to use DCTs in the Sorento, Santa Fe, and Santa Cruz. Not only do DCTs destroy any ability to off-road, they are far less reliable than Hyundai/Kia's 6 and 8 speed automatic.

    • @zachariewright1690
      @zachariewright1690 Před 2 lety +11

      I agree. DCTs should be left for track-ready sports cars.

    • @masonschneider5470
      @masonschneider5470 Před 2 lety +7

      @@zachariewright1690 Exactly! DCTs have no place in crossovers, its strange how Hyundai uses them in considering how they have very smooth and reliable 6 and 8 speed automatics while their DCTs have always been unreliable.

    • @MDKN22
      @MDKN22 Před 2 lety +7

      But do people really take these as far off road as TFL does?

    • @zachariewright1690
      @zachariewright1690 Před 2 lety +2

      @@MDKN22 Lol, I hope not. Then again, I've seen Priuses on trails before, so craziness abounds.

    • @masonschneider5470
      @masonschneider5470 Před 2 lety

      @@MDKN22 I get that most people don't often takes these off-road, but even disregarding that, it doesn't change the fact that the DCTs Hyundai/Kia use are very unreliable and jerky at anything less than highway speeds. Its all the more baffling considering how good Hyundai/Kia 6 and 8 speed automatics are.

  • @travisp11
    @travisp11 Před 2 lety +15

    TFL, have you tried reaching out to your viewers to see if anyone has the Santa Cruz with the non turbo powertrain for you to test?

  • @AZOverland2017
    @AZOverland2017 Před 2 lety +5

    Interesting comparison. Thank you!

  • @iainmckenzie9323
    @iainmckenzie9323 Před 2 lety +8

    Love the comparison. The only thing you forgot to mention, Premisy tyres are low grip high economy as used by Toyota for the Prius.

  • @mattman6458
    @mattman6458 Před 2 lety +4

    I love my santa cruz limited. It's not meant for offloading,but with the truxxx lift and larger at tires it performs exactly how I want. I have a video on my channel if you are wondering what it looks like lifted with tallers at tires

  • @joshc606
    @joshc606 Před 2 lety +2

    Glad you got away from the ranch some. Though I like the ranch is good to go back to the trails!

  • @Lebowski5000
    @Lebowski5000 Před 2 lety +2

    Nathan always brightens my day. Never change, Nathan. Never change ❤️

  • @frankhernandez5446
    @frankhernandez5446 Před 2 lety +1

    Great comparison. Best duo in TFL.

  • @1970351C2V
    @1970351C2V Před 2 lety +4

    Started smelling burnt clutch when I read the title.

  • @scottyellis3442
    @scottyellis3442 Před 2 lety +3

    Great video, gotta be honest I always thought they were the same vehicles just one with a bed & one without. Thanks for clearing that up. 👍🏻

  • @OS-hx4jk
    @OS-hx4jk Před 2 lety +5

    I have a 2006 Pajero and a 2009 Silverado. Both 4WD. And the SUV is better.

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP Před 2 lety +4

      Wheelbase and weight are likely in favor of the Pajero there. Would love to get back into one of those, loved the one I had for a bit.

  • @jayhiggins5239
    @jayhiggins5239 Před 2 lety

    Finally the engine transmission comparison so many have been asking for.

  • @vettle1
    @vettle1 Před 2 lety

    I love these 2 making videos together.

  • @javierlugo259
    @javierlugo259 Před 2 lety

    LMBO!!!! You Guys are Hilarious man......Many Thanks for this video and as always you Guys do such an Excellent Job

  • @denisleblanc4506
    @denisleblanc4506 Před 2 lety +7

    Its time you explained how a torque converter in an automatic transmission increases delivered torque at low speeds and no its not about high stall speed raising the revs so the engine reaches it torque band. In this comparison you forgot to note how the weight distribution and carrying capacity would affect their off road performance. Since the Sant Cruz can carry a lot more weight and has a worse weight distribution, it will take a lot less articulation to start spinning tires since they will unload much faster. Conversely, most people go off-road with a few passengers and additional weight. This will effectively lower the Tucson more quickly and ground clearance will become a problem faster than the Santa Cruz. Its not always tires or engine power that makes a difference.

  • @trailrunnah8886
    @trailrunnah8886 Před 2 lety +15

    If the Santa Cruz belongs to TFL, I would love to see this test repeated with some better tires on it. I think the new BFG Trail Terrain would be a great choice for it.

    • @Stuka87
      @Stuka87 Před 2 lety

      Its a long term loaner, so I dont think they will be doing any mods to it.

    • @WW-wf8tu
      @WW-wf8tu Před 2 lety +2

      @@Stuka87 They "own" it. Need to follow along. Roman was talking about doing a bunch of mods to it straight away but after careful consideration, changed his mind. (for now) IF you are ever confused, just search for the vehicle and find the 1st video of it where they say whether it is a loaner or purchased. They also did a 2 month review of what it is like living with it, where they once again state they own it.

    • @bertito43
      @bertito43 Před rokem

      Or the Mickey Thompson Baja

    • @leadnsteel1428
      @leadnsteel1428 Před rokem +1

      I have a 2016 GMC Canyon 4x4 with bfg all terrains and it goes anywhere. I've gone through mud, snow and sand. I fo overlanding and light offloading with the truck.
      I also have a Tucson that I use for Uber and lyft. It's a great small city suv.

    • @Aliyah_666
      @Aliyah_666 Před rokem +1

      It's that darn dct drivetrain that lets it down though.

  • @richardkusimenkah
    @richardkusimenkah Před 11 měsíci

    Finally a video where someone has a Santa Cruz offroad with the 18" vs the 20" 👏
    Up in Canada we have terrain modes like mud,snow, and sand. That might give the Santa Cruz an edge up.

  • @fastfed
    @fastfed Před 2 lety +6

    What's better off-road , 12 minutes of what engine it has, what buttons on the inside of the vehicles do and finally 2 minutes if actual off-road 😂 lol

  • @motorhead_jt21
    @motorhead_jt21 Před 2 lety

    The Santa Cruz really looks better in person too. I saw a white one at my hotel in Austin, TX and was surprised at how much I liked it.

  • @rondail5675
    @rondail5675 Před 2 lety +9

    I would pick a Mazda CX5 over the Tucson even though it would cost about $1k to $2k more.

    • @Malc664
      @Malc664 Před 2 lety +2

      Yes, a much better AWD system on CX5.

    • @matthewp5472
      @matthewp5472 Před rokem +1

      The Hyundai has a better curise control system and lane keeping system (also quieter ride), based on my test drives.

  • @JD-sb4ss
    @JD-sb4ss Před 2 lety +4

    “Truck” is a pretty generous word for that thing.

  • @glenncamp1139
    @glenncamp1139 Před 2 lety +1

    You guys should come down to Davis, OK. and check out CROSSBAR RANCH in the Arbuckle mountains if you haven't already been there. I'd love to see a video of your adventures there.

  • @briandaniel5091
    @briandaniel5091 Před 2 lety +2

    Using Jeff is actually genius !

  • @rondail5675
    @rondail5675 Před 2 lety +5

    I think Hyundai did great with the Santa Cruz. I would pick it over my Honda-Ridgeline if it was $2k cheaper. At near Ridgeline price, the Santa Cruz falls short in room, powertrain, and features.

    • @r.danielsejas215
      @r.danielsejas215 Před 2 lety

      4 cyl vs V6, However the Santa Cruz has better torque. Driver and front passenger room Santa Cruz takes it easily. Rear seats, Ridgeline takes it easily. same with the truck bed.

    • @r.danielsejas215
      @r.danielsejas215 Před 2 lety

      Honda needs to do something about te Ridgelines interior. The Ridgeline HPD looks amazing from the outside.

  • @michelmacias8969
    @michelmacias8969 Před 2 lety +2

    I liked Jeff 😆😆😆

  • @W_T.F
    @W_T.F Před 2 lety +1

    If you want to avoid roll back on the Santa Cruz, use the brake hold function.

  • @MrNicholg
    @MrNicholg Před 2 lety

    Nice shoulder block on the mirror, Nathan.

  • @stevenalexander5603
    @stevenalexander5603 Před 2 lety

    I have the 2022 Tucson perferred package with the trend package and I believe 17 inch tires I love this car it’s pretty awesome it has the 2.5 na engine and I love that engine it’s pretty good for what it is and I have the 8 speed transmission as well.

    • @wolfshanze5980
      @wolfshanze5980 Před rokem

      Ugh... the 2.5L NA engine at 187HP is just too weak for the Tucson. 0-60 in about 9 seconds... that's terrible. The Tucsons to get are the Hybrid (226HP) and the PHEV (261HP)... both of those actually have the horsepower needed to get in and out of traffic without looking like granny crossing the road using a walker.

  • @NickTarterOKC
    @NickTarterOKC Před 2 lety +1

    I think the Santa Cruz is interesting. I would never buy one thinking I was buying a legit off roader. That would be far from my expectations. It's an urban car based truck which definitely has merit and a lot of utility for what it is.

  • @Scottnej
    @Scottnej Před 8 měsíci

    I would love to see you guys mod the Tucson to make it look tougher… more… Off road like.

  • @baldisaerodynamic9692
    @baldisaerodynamic9692 Před 2 lety

    the tuscon can hold a full size steelie rim and tire and will cost 1/3 of what the dealer charges for that donut kit....then buy a smaller 1.5 ton harbor freight jack for 60 bucks...again still keeping at at 1/2 the price as the dealer spare kit.....and i have a a few emergency tools and supplies, extra set of clothes, laid out just right under that cover. its a lot more useful than it appears on film, and especially if you use the inner of the rim to store stuff.

  • @Mpompi315.
    @Mpompi315. Před 2 lety

    I think with the dual clutch if you kept it in manual mode in 1st gear it would help a bit

  • @DaciaProject
    @DaciaProject Před 2 lety +3

    These need diesel manuals like here in Europe.

    • @jaanfo3874
      @jaanfo3874 Před 2 lety

      I fully agree, however since VW Dieselgate Diesels will NEVER become mainstream here in the US. Hyundai announced a diesel Santa Fe in 2018, it was on their webpage and everything, I was prepared to run out the door and buy it as soon as it hit the dealership, then suddenly everything about it disappeared.
      And a manual transmission would be far better than a DCT. So would a torque converter.

    • @lutomson3496
      @lutomson3496 Před 2 lety

      The US shoves hybrid and electric garbage at us instead of reliable diesel

  • @baldisaerodynamic9692
    @baldisaerodynamic9692 Před 2 lety

    I own the hybrid tuscon, and my mother has a santa cruz and yes the tuscon is much better in the back seats. i use mine for uber and no one has ever complained

  • @tac79phoenix
    @tac79phoenix Před rokem

    You guys still can't get the N/A Santa Cruz??
    I get this is a somewhat similar comparison between the 2 Santa Cruz options (based on the powertrains), but the wheel base needs to be more comparable

  • @mark_alexander
    @mark_alexander Před 2 lety

    For future, Hyundai turns off wheel braking when you disable traction and stability. It’s not even trying to distribute power left to right if stability is off. Just some little known tips!

  • @r.danielsejas215
    @r.danielsejas215 Před 2 lety +1

    Nathan you chose the wrong Tucson to go off road.
    The Hybrid Tucson is much better, Better torque and better transmission. The Tucson N-line outside of the US gets a turbo but not here.

  • @briantoner5247
    @briantoner5247 Před 2 lety

    Sportage & Tucson and Sorento & Santa Fe.

  • @usamasaid2860
    @usamasaid2860 Před 2 lety

    PLEASE I WANT A VIDEO TOWING WHIT THE TICSON HYBRID NOBODY DID IT YET

  • @Ram14250
    @Ram14250 Před 2 lety +2

    I wish you would test a Honda Passport, which is a much better soft roarder than either of these and has a much better AWD system.

    • @NathanDAdlen
      @NathanDAdlen Před 2 lety

      We have several videos testing the Passport

  • @TheAmbex
    @TheAmbex Před 2 lety

    My 2017 Tucson goes all over with ease. Get some AT tires, turn off all traction assist, turn on the center locker, and don't just slam the gas down.

  • @coolyjavon591
    @coolyjavon591 Před rokem

    I want to see the 23 telluride x-pro and 23 palisade Xrt do this together!!!!

  • @regsparkes6507
    @regsparkes6507 Před 2 lety +5

    These are definitely NOT vehicles for offroad driving, especially hills like this one. This is a sure method to destroy tires ( at least ) if not, then transmissions too.
    But, they got to the top, didn't they? Nathan is correct, better tire for this are more or less, essential.

  • @MrMakto
    @MrMakto Před rokem

    How tall are yall again. 6'4" wondering if ill fit lol. I sat in a sportage and the windshield ended at my eye height.

  • @brandonmiller2450
    @brandonmiller2450 Před rokem

    I just bought both of these vehicles lol.

  • @ascendantrobin3230
    @ascendantrobin3230 Před 2 lety

    Tombstone humbles yet another vehicle 🤣

  • @ALMX5DP
    @ALMX5DP Před 2 lety +3

    8:44 lol at the towing capacity claim while showing an absent hitch receiver.

  • @wintermagebarthow8481
    @wintermagebarthow8481 Před 2 lety +1

    A better comparison should be against the Subaru Forrester and Crosstrek

  • @rfd339
    @rfd339 Před rokem

    My 2020 Santa fe 2.0 would make that easy..

  • @turboash78
    @turboash78 Před 2 lety +2

    More like crossover vs crossover.

  • @overlnder9793
    @overlnder9793 Před rokem

    Id suggest a bike wrack and a mountain bike to go down the trail ……. Or just a pair of legs instead of taking that anywhere off much more than a gravel or dirt road

  • @wolfshanze5980
    @wolfshanze5980 Před rokem

    The Santa Cruz is NOT a pickup... thats' a modern reincarnation of the El Camino.

  • @carlbaltimore6092
    @carlbaltimore6092 Před rokem

    You don't take a cap gun to a gunfight.

  • @joshuawoolley4836
    @joshuawoolley4836 Před 11 měsíci

    Why do all auto manufacturers give such low payload capacities. These cars are maxed out so easily

  • @rivercreep
    @rivercreep Před rokem

    Let us know what the Wife says after you carry some cow crap in the back of the Tucson. :) (or get it filthy with mulch) The Santa Cruz definitely has its place.

  • @JoshuaHults
    @JoshuaHults Před 10 měsíci

    99% on road 1% pulling out of driveway in winter

  • @MC4D.
    @MC4D. Před 2 lety

    Maybe with the refresh Hyundai will offer the 8spd transmissions in their "offroad" model's.

    • @wolfshanze5980
      @wolfshanze5980 Před rokem

      Lets stop kidding ourselves, both of these vehicles are daily commute and family hauler drivers. Neither of these are built for "off-road" unless your definition of "off-road" is your unpaved driveway when you're coming home from grocery shopping at Walmart. Nothing wrong with either vehicle, they are both perfect for their intended role (which is NOT off-roading).

  • @graemejohnson9025
    @graemejohnson9025 Před 2 lety

    In the Cruz, the passenger, Stay Puff Man in a seat belt 👻

  • @ryzen397
    @ryzen397 Před 2 lety +5

    yea why are they using a DCT in that thing anyway... its not a fast vehicle that needs quick shifting... its very odd. I would imagine the regular transmission is far less expensive as well.

    • @Schuisadrummist
      @Schuisadrummist Před 2 lety +2

      The non-turbo is about $3k cheaper if I recall correctly. I drove both and ended up buying the turbo. The non-turbo literally has less pep than my wife's 2000 Toyota Sienna. For driving on pavement 95% of the time, the turbo does it for me. The turbo is also the only way to get the full 5000lb towing capacity. NA gets 3500 max.

  • @koman8036
    @koman8036 Před 2 lety +2

    Would the Santa Fe not be more compatible to the Santa Cruz?

  • @tarfeef101
    @tarfeef101 Před 2 lety +1

    Would love to see the PHEV of the Tucson tested. And maybe an experiment done with modifying the front bumper to improve approach? I'm strongly considering one but we've got a lot of cross ditches and water bars here I'd rather not smooch

    • @wolfshanze5980
      @wolfshanze5980 Před rokem

      The N-Line Tucson is a waste... it's an appearance package only from the base Tucson. I don't know why they talked about the N-Line like it's something special, it has the same weak engine (187HP) the cheapest Tucson has and zero extra power. The PHEV Tucson on the other hand has the most horsepower of all Tucsons (261HP), and it's night and day in the power category... I have the 2023 Hybrid Tucson (226HP) and it would do much better on that test than the N-Line.

  • @jrjr7404
    @jrjr7404 Před rokem

    Santa cruz is just Tucson opened up

  • @HSstudio.Ytchnnl
    @HSstudio.Ytchnnl Před rokem

    yet Nathan would eventually buy a Santa Cruz

  • @RysterARCEE
    @RysterARCEE Před 2 lety

    The "interior comfort" segment with Jeff seemed out of place for this video. The video is billed as an off-road evaluation. Rear seat room has nothing to do with it.

  • @razissweet
    @razissweet Před 2 lety

    More maverick

  • @freedomstar3814
    @freedomstar3814 Před 2 lety +1

    Maybe it's just me but the auto industry seems to produce junk. Then they change the next model with minor changes that don't make the vehicle any better. Most SUVS don't even come with trailer hitches from the factory. 95% of the cars on the road are over priced grocery getters !

  • @Shakshuka69
    @Shakshuka69 Před 2 lety +3

    They're literally both crossovers lol

  • @-Jethro-
    @-Jethro- Před 2 lety

    Isn’t this what you built your own test track for?

    • @jamesbeaman6337
      @jamesbeaman6337 Před 2 lety

      I like Tumbleweed Ranch but I also like to see them out on the trails they have used in the past.

  • @jamesb.2064
    @jamesb.2064 Před 2 lety

    Since neither are really "off road" vehicles…why are we doing this? Lol

    • @wolfshanze5980
      @wolfshanze5980 Před rokem

      Anyone who bought either of these vehicles to do serious off-roading deserves the results they will get.

  • @dirtsailoroff-road5580

    I'm betting a 1998 Ford ranger does better than these off road.

  • @mikewright2858
    @mikewright2858 Před 2 lety +3

    The Santa Cruz may be a perfectly fine vehicle that meets the needs of a certain segment of the population - but can we please stop calling these things "trucks"? We need to draw the line somewhere, and this thing with its AWD, DCT and unibody is not any more of a truck than a Subaru Brat was.

    • @AHungryHunky
      @AHungryHunky Před 2 lety

      I draw the line when you can legally choose to ignore specialized highway signs telling real trucks what to do. You know, the ones that say "Trucks Reduce Speed, Truck Speed Limit, Brake Retarders prohibited, Truck Weight Limit, Truck Detour"

    • @wolfshanze5980
      @wolfshanze5980 Před rokem

      Looks like a 2022 El Camino to me.

  • @zoefaith120
    @zoefaith120 Před 2 lety

    Tyranny swap at kobold shop!

  • @alehax27
    @alehax27 Před 2 lety +1

    I used to own a hyundai. Reliability was crap. Never touching one again.

    • @bradleyscarreviews
      @bradleyscarreviews Před 2 lety +4

      Lol love how you keep on mentioning “used to” like if they are the same anymore, always have to be a badge snob commenting

    • @RandomVideos-re9ux
      @RandomVideos-re9ux Před 2 lety +3

      emphasis on “used to”

    • @brandtphillips5825
      @brandtphillips5825 Před 2 lety

      As if he would hang onto a POS that is unreliable??? Now if he decided to keep an unreliable POS, that would be grounds to give him a hard time

    • @bradleyscarreviews
      @bradleyscarreviews Před 2 lety

      @@brandtphillips5825 they aren’t unreliable anymore.

    • @brandtphillips5825
      @brandtphillips5825 Před 2 lety +1

      @@bradleyscarreviews consumer reports would disagree with you, as would the piles of crates of engines that dealers have on hand

  • @Redneck_Wizard
    @Redneck_Wizard Před 2 lety

    SUV's are more capable off road but both of these vehicles are awful.

  • @DJR5280
    @DJR5280 Před 2 lety +5

    Who in their right mind would buy either of these

  • @rileyparrish184
    @rileyparrish184 Před 2 lety +1

    Why would anyone drive a Hyundai

    • @bradleyscarreviews
      @bradleyscarreviews Před 2 lety

      Why do you’ll badge snob have to be even commenting on these Hyundai vids?

    • @RandomVideos-re9ux
      @RandomVideos-re9ux Před 2 lety +1

      someone other than narrow minded people like you

    • @brandtphillips5825
      @brandtphillips5825 Před 2 lety +1

      Unfortunately some people can't afford something better, enjoy worse than average reliability, or they just enjoy ugly and exaggerated Korean styling

  • @mazdarene
    @mazdarene Před 2 lety

    💩 vs 💩. What change? Both are perfectly the same.

  • @calmdownref
    @calmdownref Před 2 lety +2

    That Santa Cruz is the UGLIEST truck I've ever seen with my eyes. Geez that bad. Why are the back ends getting so bad over time!

    • @RandomVideos-re9ux
      @RandomVideos-re9ux Před 2 lety

      ok

    • @brandtphillips5825
      @brandtphillips5825 Před 2 lety

      Because people who buy Hyundais like ugly styling that gets worse with every redesign

    • @Schuisadrummist
      @Schuisadrummist Před 2 lety

      It looks like a damn warthog from HALO. That's a big plus to some people, and to some people, it means absolutely nothing.

    • @stephenurso9267
      @stephenurso9267 Před 2 lety +1

      It's not a truck! At least have some idea what you are talking about!

    • @theeschnoffy6328
      @theeschnoffy6328 Před 2 lety

      its cool looking

  • @Roberto-nj5yr
    @Roberto-nj5yr Před rokem

    TFL reviews are so so so boring.