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  • @katiewhelan6431
    @katiewhelan6431 Před 6 lety +580

    I'm surprised Mat didn't mention that Yuri became pretty defensive in Act 2 and denied the main character's comment that she reminded him of the Portrait of Markov protagonist. That'd be a solid piece of evidence about her being Libitina.
    But anyway, I'm glad you guys reacted to this one!

    • @handtomouth4690
      @handtomouth4690 Před 6 lety +74

      Yep, for once MatPat didn't even use all the possible evidence to prove his theory. Monika even makes a comment about the book, but before she starts talking about it, she cuts herself off.

    • @raptor167
      @raptor167 Před 6 lety +37

      This is part one. In the second part, he does go into detail with it and does mention Yuri denying and being defensive with the Portrait of Markov protagonist.

    • @Qopa
      @Qopa Před 6 lety +14

      Katie Whelan, I was about to comment that but u beat me to it! But there was a little bit of misinformation on the part where they decoded a line code, and say Monika was the one that wrote it, the one where it ends with "2018". But remember, if this was Monika, she would have stated so like she did on the steam's page. And again, this seem like a message from the protagonist rather than Monika herself. Why? When Sayori replaces Monika right after we deleted her, Monika stated that "you cant hurt him", the "him" here assumed that we, the player, are male. When in reality she mentioned b4, when everyone is gone from the game, that she dont know whether u are a girl or a boy. Which proves a point that the protagonist is a seperate entity from us players, playing as him. And there were lines from that text that hinted that it is not Monika.
      So the mentioned hero here will be just us, the player, and the protagonist, the 5th character that actually has a concious of their own.

    • @handtomouth4690
      @handtomouth4690 Před 6 lety +9

      I think Monika writing the message has more going for it than the protaganist. The way it is written seems like how Monika would talk.

    • @jeffblacklight104
      @jeffblacklight104 Před 6 lety +6

      yeah also we dont know the name of the protagonist, we name him, but if he is other character them he should and most have a name... that we dont know or ever read in the game so... yeah i also think is monika

  • @kittykatja5143
    @kittykatja5143 Před 6 lety +675

    Lol, the “voice actress” for Monika is MatPat’s wife, Stephanie. XD

    • @thebronzescribe2793
      @thebronzescribe2793 Před 6 lety +58

      Props to steph, she sounds like monika to a t

    • @unclubbableplus
      @unclubbableplus Před 6 lety +11

      why not to an a?

    • @NopeJustPatrick
      @NopeJustPatrick Před 6 lety +41

      J.D. West - You'd be surprised how many people actually got really close to the end-Monika song voice, but I think Steph did it especially well...

    • @menethemene1555
      @menethemene1555 Před 6 lety +5

      Dat is true

    • @gachanebula2312
      @gachanebula2312 Před 5 lety +6

      Yeah and all of the characters is voiced by stephaine

  • @buenmozu3115
    @buenmozu3115 Před 6 lety +213

    Umm... reddit can be a resource. The redditors didn't put in time editing, animating, and doing more research; don't understand the discounting of the work that went into the video.

  • @JohnnyFamas139
    @JohnnyFamas139 Před 6 lety +364

    Did these guys really just rag on matpat for getting most of his material from reddit and other sources when their whole video is just them going over matpat's video? Lol

    • @denizakarca0405
      @denizakarca0405 Před 5 lety +17

      for real...

    • @puppetmaster9421
      @puppetmaster9421 Před 5 lety +62

      Jon Famas
      Lol
      That’s evidence! You have to use it to compose your theory. And besides, he said the names so they could get the credit

    • @tonybenedetti7179
      @tonybenedetti7179 Před 4 lety +3

      Jon Famas HAHAHAHAHA so true

    • @ChrissaTodd
      @ChrissaTodd Před 3 lety +5

      reddit isn't even that inaccurate with some facts they get i have found wrong theories before on there yes but most make sense and have the evidence

    • @sagearviso1979
      @sagearviso1979 Před 3 lety

      @Jimmy Kyrie imagine trying to scam someone’s money 😂 couldn’t be me

  • @All54321
    @All54321 Před 6 lety +126

    To add to this theory, to help it, there is a bit of dialogue that mentions this. When it’s down to Just Monika in the game/Act 3 she references Yuri’s book, the Portrait Of Markov. Barely. Let’s just simplify by quoting what she says:
    “Hey, you know that book you were reading with Yuri? Portrait of... whatever it was called... It’s funny, because I’m pretty sure that book- Ah... Actually, I don’t think I should be talking about this. Ahaha, sorry! Just forget I said anything.”
    Yeah.... like we would, Monika...

  • @autumnblizzard
    @autumnblizzard Před 6 lety +51

    "Thanks Reddit" What the f**k? Yeah, he got the decriptions from them, but he pieced everything together on his own. Stop throwing shade to someone who does more in the community and is friendlier than all of you.

  • @AquilHudson
    @AquilHudson Před 6 lety +424

    The one who voiced Monika in the beginning is matpat's wife

    • @seankock7649
      @seankock7649 Před 6 lety +2

      Aquil Hudson Noooo really? No shit man -_-

    • @AquilHudson
      @AquilHudson Před 6 lety +61

      Sean Kock i was saying that to them since they didn't know who it was not the comment section

    • @seankock7649
      @seankock7649 Před 6 lety +1

      Aquil Hudson maybe they didnt care

    • @seankock7649
      @seankock7649 Před 6 lety +5

      Aquil Hudson also sorry for beig a dick

    • @Hamsnardd
      @Hamsnardd Před 6 lety +9

      Oh, cool! I don't think any of us knew it was his wife.

  • @altarudragonspirit4016
    @altarudragonspirit4016 Před 6 lety +47

    The 'Nothing is real?' poem was a special poem that you get when the day ends, not from a specific character like your saying

    • @hmm_okok
      @hmm_okok Před 6 lety +17

      Altaru554 Temmie It's pretty frustrating when that girl confirmed herself as being right just after complaining about people not getting all the information before talking. "yeah, we got that from yuri"

  • @shelliblossom8953
    @shelliblossom8953 Před 6 lety +708

    Is everyone so upset when matpat makes a incorrect theory theorys will be proven wrong they wouldnt be theorys if they was always right

    • @CallumDowney
      @CallumDowney Před 6 lety +176

      Shelby Cox agreed I don't really understand why people get upset about that.

    • @Lemon-x-
      @Lemon-x- Před 6 lety +201

      Shelby Cox Exactly, I just watch them for the entertainment value, I don't take everything he says as proven facts, I just appreciate how much effort it must take to research all of this stuff and then fit it into a short entertaining package. It's also just cool to see how small things COULD link together, it's not like the channel is called GameFacts lol

    • @OnlyRusseLLHD
      @OnlyRusseLLHD Před 6 lety +92

      I think the reason people get upset isn't necessarily because of matpat, it's because of his fan base that takes every one of his theories as fact.

    • @LadyLuckyLu
      @LadyLuckyLu Před 6 lety +7

      Shelby Cox Ikr

    • @Chiemkim
      @Chiemkim Před 6 lety +45

      I agree but I think people are more mad if he gets the information wrong or if he made a mistake or something. Idk, some of his community are kinda dicks ngl.

  • @the_enderslayer
    @the_enderslayer Před 6 lety +191

    I'm *always* skeptical when it comes to Game Theory, but I watch all of them. I like to see the theories then decide myself, whether or not that is actually plausible with the information provided, I think he did really well on this one though.

    • @namingfae
      @namingfae Před 6 lety +11

      The EnderSlayer i agree

    • @generictimestamperstupendi9021
      @generictimestamperstupendi9021 Před 6 lety +31

      Even if the conclusion isn't right , this made me realize how much thought was put into the game.
      I mean, that fucking binary static picture.... HOW!

    • @lorik2005
      @lorik2005 Před 6 lety +26

      Considering the guy has to become an expert in all types of sciences and maths, I do stay skeptical of Mat but you got to admire the effort he puts in.

    • @EvilChibiIggyII
      @EvilChibiIggyII Před 5 lety +7

      Bruh it's a fucking theory, not a fact.

    • @alalalala57
      @alalalala57 Před 5 lety +6

      Shouldn't people always be skeptical of everything?
      I think you mean *extra critical* rather than *always skeptical*

  • @EnigmaMystere
    @EnigmaMystere Před 6 lety +180

    I like how Matt made him look at the computer and realize the issue with the video.

    • @generictimestamperstupendi9021
      @generictimestamperstupendi9021 Před 6 lety +17

      I didn't even realize that...
      Matpat helping tech issues from bbbeeyyyooonnndd ttthhheeee ggggrrrraaaaavvvvveeee

  • @EditDeath
    @EditDeath Před 6 lety +57

    Fun theory I picked up from this video:
    If you convert their names to hiragana, only Yuri's name is written with 2 characters, while everyone else uses 3. Assuming then that the name Yuri is important, I learned that it means lily, which seems to match the flower in her red thread pic. Specifically, it looks to be a day lily, the Chinese symbol for motherhood. Interesting, then, that the last thing Yuri told us about her book was the cult's breeding program.
    I feel like I'm reaching with that, but with the Japanese idea of a red thread of fate, and those threads emerging from Yuri's flower, I'm fairly sure there's something being missed there.

    • @EditDeath
      @EditDeath Před 6 lety +22

      Another thought I had is that when Yuri dies, we're forced to sit with her corpse for two days in game time before Monika deletes everything, thereby making a timeless realm. Afterwards, the game is restored and Yuri returns. In other words, she rises on the third day. If she is the villain in the new, cult-based game, what better detail could we expect for a potential antichrist figure?

    • @kakkoiihusbandohikkikomori6847
      @kakkoiihusbandohikkikomori6847 Před 6 lety +16

      There's also the fact that the flower is called a red spider lily and it's the symbol of death in Japan's language of flowers.

    • @suwinkhamchaiwong8382
      @suwinkhamchaiwong8382 Před 6 lety +1

      oh..

    • @EditDeath
      @EditDeath Před 5 lety +1

      Thanks, I couldn't really tell which breed the lily was.

    • @xotai
      @xotai Před 5 lety +6

      And the Japanese influence is obviously there, as ddlc is clearly a 'Japanese novel game' and japanese in setting ie the school and environment. And the names obviously hold importantance because all 3 girls have Japanese names except Monika, so to say there there is Japanese meaning behind Yuri's isn't a stretch at all!

  • @jasonic9405
    @jasonic9405 Před 6 lety +379

    You all are treating it like his channel is named game facts, they are theories, they are meant to be crazy

    • @Chameleonred5
      @Chameleonred5 Před 6 lety +15

      No, theories are meant to propose an idea that is potentially true but lacks enough confirmation to be confirmed facts. And if the theories cannot hold up under the slightest scrutiny (basically all of them except FNAF somehow) because the facts instantly disprove them, then they may as well be thrown out the window.

    • @nahte123456
      @nahte123456 Před 6 lety +64

      +Chameleonred5 And that's not what Game or Film theory is about at all. It's about promoting discussion, and taking in hard facts, in the real world, and what's in the game/movie. So do your research before sounding like an idiot.
      Also, nothing but his FNAF theory can hold up. I'm telling you factually, you are wrong. Several theories have been right, or possibly right. Also subjectively, lumping everything together when you are provably wrong, over all of this, in public, makes me think you are either stupid or should grow up before you talk.

    • @masked-feraligatr1094
      @masked-feraligatr1094 Před 6 lety +5

      Chameleonred5 He literally puts things we already know together. There is nothing wrong with the theory *except* the flower thing.

    • @Chameleonred5
      @Chameleonred5 Před 6 lety +3

      @nahte123456 I am well aware of what Game Theory is about. I'm just saying that the title is misleading. It should really be called "Game Speculation Mixed With Confirmation Bias," if we want to be accurate. But because it's a "theory," if it doesn't have a possibility of being true, people get upset. For good reason. Theories proven wrong aren't theories. They're fiction.
      His FNAF stuff was literally confirmed by Scott Cawthon. Everything else I've watched (quite a lot) seems to conveniently forget certain facts that are obvious and apparent in their games the moment Game Theory wants to make some nonsense up.

    • @nahte123456
      @nahte123456 Před 6 lety +26

      Sure, like his Loot Box video which was nothing but science and politics that missed nothing from games, or Mario punching Yoshi, which was confirmed by Nintendo, the Chaos Emerald video which was all about how they can't be real emeralds based on color, Bottle Flip Challenge, which he demonstrated he was right, Until Dawn's video was correct as well. And that's just off the top of my head
      Look if you don't like GT or have some sort of dislike for it fine, but saying Matt just forgets things or is rarely right is just blatantly wrong.

  • @HoneeBear
    @HoneeBear Před 6 lety +57

    Omg, a lot of people dislike MatPat. Anyway, I knew something deeper was going on with Yuri the first time she denied her resemblance to the main character in the Markov story.

  • @sunnyeardays3426
    @sunnyeardays3426 Před 6 lety +166

    Natisuk's dad is still a piece of shit before second act, the prof:
    In the weekend of the first act is when you find out about all characters problems:
    Sayori's depression (directly),
    Monika's manipulative behavior (Sayori mentions Monika's telling her about the main character's meeting and after that encounter she says Monika was right about something, fill the gaps after knowing Monika's intentions),
    if in Yuri's encounter, Yuri's self-harm (Yuri was left in alone with her work and a knife from her collection, main character comes back to his room and Yuri quickly hides her arm, fill the gaps with what you know about Yuri)
    and if in Natsuki's encounter, Natsuki daddy issues (when main character tells her that it's okay to eat a cupcake she says her dad is making dinner so she needs to save appetite)
    the reason for that is because she isn't feed regularly therefore she doesn't want to lose appetite for the only dinner she will have in days. Word choice indicates that it isn't about finishing a plate of food or get scolded, it's more to the lines of eat as much as you can because you don't know how long it will be until the next meal.

    • @starwarscompleted5879
      @starwarscompleted5879 Před 6 lety +1

      natisuk is being tortured Solano Dias Pereira good detective work

    • @ZyroShadowPony
      @ZyroShadowPony Před 6 lety +2

      Solano Dias Pereira jesus christ youre right. I never realized this

    • @vinicyhuz
      @vinicyhuz Před 6 lety +10

      I think she needs to eat as much as possible because if she ever says "im full" he will not make that much food again or probably say something about "wasting precious food" and not actually give her any as punishment for a long time

    • @danurusursus5154
      @danurusursus5154 Před 6 lety +4

      Maybe not. In the first part of the game she gives Sayori a cookie. If her dad was already abusive she wouldn't give Sayori a cookie or really even be able to buy one in the first place. Also one of the secret poems show that her dad was nice but progressively got more abusive. Maybe the day Yuri or Natsuki comes over is when Monika screws them over

    • @vinicyhuz
      @vinicyhuz Před 6 lety +2

      Actually...Monika is not "all powerful" since there was a time when she could not control the world as it went into poem time. Maybe to change someone personality she would need to do it in a more indirect way, that would explain why instead of simpling pulling a lever and making Sayori from depressed to suicidal she simply told her things that made her that way. So instead i guess Monika edited Natsuki's backstory so she would grow up to be like that.

  • @Sketchpunk
    @Sketchpunk Před 6 lety +98

    6:41 cat.exe has stopped working

  • @waddlespire
    @waddlespire Před 6 lety +92

    This was a really well put together theory video. When I first watched it, I didn't expect there to be that much hidden away. It's important to note, though, that Game Theory is all about speculation. He talks about the hate he gets once in a while during the livestreams, and I think there's a disconnect between what he thinks of his videos and what a lot of his viewers think of his videos. I always think of it from a literature perspective. You can focus on whatever you need to in order to make your point. It's about promoting discussion and trying to think of things on a deeper level. It isn't necessarily about being right, it's just about finding evidence to support a concept. It's about interpretation. I wrote an English paper for college that said the game Dante's Inferno was a modern version of the Greek Orpheus and Eurydice myth, and that it had a happy ending because gamers expect a sense of accomplishment that wouldn't be fulfilled if Beatrice hadn't been saved by Dante. Doesn't mean it has any basis in reality. Just means I can make connections if I try hard enough. I would say it's the same thing with the FNAF argument. He thought of something interesting and jumped into it because it was an interesting concept to him. What if this media can be interpreted in a way the creator didn't intend? Happens all the time in literature circles. It's about the critical thinking exercises and seeing what you can pull from the text, film, or game to make a convincing argument, not about being right all the time. Mario's probably not a sociopath, Sans probably isn't Ness, and I doubt any of the Nintendo girls had breast implants (all videos he's done at one point or another) but it's fun to jump in and find the connections anyway. At least for me. ^_^

    • @aaaaaa8406
      @aaaaaa8406 Před 6 lety +18

      I actually heard that he said he didn't really believe Sans was Ness, he just wanted to give the viewers a different point to look from and show them some secrets wihtin the game. But of course, I haven't seen it myself.

    • @Chameleonred5
      @Chameleonred5 Před 6 lety

      Problem is that it's Game Theory, not Game Speculative Associations Mixed With Confirmation Bias.
      Theories are immediately invalid as soon as they are disproved. Speculation is sort of fun, but getting to a possibly correct conclusion that can't immediately be disproven? That's the capstone of a theory. When you're thinking, "He could be right," you're having fun. When you're thinking, "Um, this very basic fact that was very obvious unravels the whole thing," you're not having fun. Problem is that MatPat either doesn't realize this or doesn't care.

    • @MajorLawliet
      @MajorLawliet Před 6 lety +21

      Chameleonred5 I think at the very heart of it, you are overcomplicating what a guy does in CZcams largely for the sake of fun and just giving something to communities as his own share of the pie into something like a renewed physicist screwing up hard on something that matters. These are games, and we do these theories for fun, and we speculate for fun, and nobody is gonna be aggravated or hurt because they may have gotten something wrong unless there was someone wrongfully insulting someone else, in the case of for example Mat insulting Toby over his own game, which wasn't ever the case, or selling your opinion as any hard and undeniable fact that you make and show others your opinion is the correct one, or a lot of other stuff matpat really doesn't do. Literally, you remind me of a more polite version of this idiotic youtuber that's very well known in the DB anime circle and does some debunking videos, one of which felt like a personal attack on another smaller member that did something for the sake of speculation and his own fun, using official statements and good old math. And then the imbecile of a youtuber tells his subscribers not to wail on him, after doing it himself, but that he had to make the video to "stop the spread of misinformation". Misinformation about freaking Dragon Ball like it's a big deal, like the dude himself hadn't said from minute 1 "this is speculative, I'm likely to be wrong, and I am just doing this for the fun of it and the entertainment of others".

    • @Chameleonred5
      @Chameleonred5 Před 6 lety

      @Major Lawliet It's not a big deal. I don't take this seriously. I know he's doing it for fun, and I don't especially care. I'm making a minor critique of a CZcams channel on a completely different channel's video in a comments section that people are unlikely to read. I will be dead for certain in approximately 60-80 years. This video will be forgotten long before that.
      I think you're taking me too seriously. Arguing is part of how I have fun. Overcomplicating (whether I am here or not) is part of that. Otherwise I wouldn't be doing it.

    • @aaaaaa8406
      @aaaaaa8406 Před 5 lety

      @@awkwardbaggage3987 You didn't have to sound rude about it..;v;

  • @meow-kay2998
    @meow-kay2998 Před 6 lety +28

    didn't the main character of Doki Doki say to Yuri the main character, of the book they read, reminds him alot of her???
    DANG

  • @fruitladyangie8062
    @fruitladyangie8062 Před 6 lety +249

    I was actually enjoying this until you guys started to shade (even if it’s minor) Matpat. It’s a theory as in...not facts. You have to appreciate all the work that had went into finding out all the information in this theory even from the reddit people. It’s also for entertainment purposes so you don’t have to take everything literally. I still enjoyed the video but I just had to speak my mind on how irritated that made me.

    • @Chameleonred5
      @Chameleonred5 Před 6 lety +8

      A theory is potentially true. If it's not, then it's just false information. If they are very obvious, contradicting facts, then it's not a theory.

    • @sirenskin5304
      @sirenskin5304 Před 6 lety +16

      Idk who you are but why you gotta be like that?

    • @GreenBlue8840
      @GreenBlue8840 Před 6 lety +19

      Fruitladyangie I'm so glad someone said this. 😤😡

    • @dvdert6
      @dvdert6 Před 6 lety +20

      I agree. If u don't like him, then don't watch.

    • @moproodu
      @moproodu Před 6 lety +2

      That's also true for this video

  • @JT33813
    @JT33813 Před 6 lety +83

    To be honest, I liked his Fnaf 4 theory. It wasn't because of his negligence to Scott Cawthon, but because of what he was teaching. I wasn't aware of how important the frontal lobe was until that video aired. I saw his remark to Scott as a sort of nudge to his ego, a sort of fun jab. The reason for disrespecting MatPat for that reason is just pitiful.

  • @pocketlintpey
    @pocketlintpey Před 5 lety +19

    These people are acting like these are facts. It's called a theory for a reason. Mat has never said that he was completely right and everyone should believe him. His literal outro is "But that's just a theory, a game theory" he knows he has a possibility of being right but also wrong. Before you criticize someone for a reason that doesn't make sense, re-search what/who you're criticizing. Thanks.

  • @handtomouth4690
    @handtomouth4690 Před 6 lety +153

    Seriously, you're going to let Sans is Ness, a non-serious theory, effect your views on every theory that comes out?
    Have you seen his "Who is Gaster" theory? He pretty much addresses all the complaints about his Undertale stuff in that. And the theory itself is pretty good as well.

    • @skullcrusher8u251
      @skullcrusher8u251 Před 6 lety +4

      "a non serious theory" most of his theorys are not serious if you look at it like that and its not just that, everytime hes covered a game i've liked i've been able to see how it's bullshit up until this one (because i was not aware of the reddit posts) showing that even the slightest bit of info on a subject he covers can disprove his theorys pretty easily, i still find him entertaining to watch sometimes but dont be so quick to automatically jump to his defense when you dont have an actual arguement.

    • @axelmok4_channel391
      @axelmok4_channel391 Před 6 lety +41

      Sans is Ness is actually a good video, he had the evidence and honestly looking at the author it would make sense. Fans just didnt want a connection so they over attacked him for it.
      His theories follow two categories one him trying to figure it out the other is him having fun an starting a conversation. Like Mario is Mental type of deal.
      Your not suppose to take his videos as fact, just enjoy the effort, facts he found, an the way he presents it. Hes more entertainment then anything else.

    • @handtomouth4690
      @handtomouth4690 Před 6 lety +39

      Interesting, so now ALL of MatPat's videos are "bullshit".
      I just find it so interesting how MatPat gets bashed over a couple of videos, to the point where any video he makes is instantly discredited no matter the content.

    • @Chameleonred5
      @Chameleonred5 Před 6 lety +2

      @AxelMok4youReviews No, fans were disappointed because even the slightest reasoning and obvious facts provided by the game proved him wrong. A theory has to have the possibility to be right. That's what makes it a theory. The show's not called Game Speculative Associations Mixed With Confirmation Bias, so it shouldn't have that.

    • @Chameleonred5
      @Chameleonred5 Před 6 lety

      @Major Lawliet. See my other comment to you. In the meantime, I'll keep having fun the way I know how: by responding as if I'm taking you seriously.
      I repeat the same thing because multiple people repeat the same misconception. How I sound is irrelevant to the argument.

  • @Itsaluigi123
    @Itsaluigi123 Před 6 lety +59

    Oh my god! What if this other game messes with the files in Doki Doki? Like, if you beat the new game and go back to Doki Doki, it'll give you a new path or something

    • @AshtonSnapp
      @AshtonSnapp Před 6 lety +13

      Itsaluigi That would be *_G L O R I O U S_*

    • @RedeemerofDark
      @RedeemerofDark Před 6 lety +3

      Itsaluigi that would be awesome!

    • @DeathKitta
      @DeathKitta Před 6 lety +3

      The new game sounds terrible(as a plot), so it would be great that getting a good ending in the new game will allow all four girls to get their happy life in Doki Doki.

  • @captaincraftit696
    @captaincraftit696 Před 6 lety +81

    Since you guys watched through the entirety of Gravity Falls, you guys should watch Over The Garden Wall eventually! (Probably once autumn/fall/halloween rolls in.) It's a 10-part miniseries with each episode being about 10 minutes long, but it has a similar artstyle, a mesmerizing soundtrack, and a whole collection of odd, quirky, and sometimes maybe-just-a-bit-scary characters to watch out for over the course of the series.

  • @undyne6280
    @undyne6280 Před 6 lety +42

    He's never acted like he was holier than thow. Have you ever watched his live streams? Maybe you should to know his personality. I loved the Sans is Ness and all his Scott Cawthon videos. He loves Scott, he never meant it in a rude or disrespectful way.

  • @galonski64
    @galonski64 Před 6 lety +77

    Cause I watch gt live play this, Steph's voice for Monika made this theory for me extra creepy.also if even half of this theory proven true, the people behind this and next game, amazing job on their part.

  • @christianasiandude9682
    @christianasiandude9682 Před 6 lety +57

    It’s just a game theory! It’s a “theory” and I feel people should kinda get over it, and I hate that people criticize for someone’s mistakes. Also, the storyline of FNAF was kinda all over the place and he did mess up, but I don’t think people should attack someone’s content because you don’t agree with him. Also, I don’t appreciate how people attack someone’s opinions, when you’re making money off their video by reacting, but Renegade I do appreciate your opinion and content so I’m not attacking you. I’m just saying my opinion, and I’m still subscribed to you.

  • @EnderKL
    @EnderKL Před 5 lety +13

    You do realise these are theories right
    The channels name is game *THEORY*
    And at the end of a threnody he literally says
    “ And that’s a *THEORY* a game *THEORY* “
    These aren’t facts, he just researches, theorises, write scripts and play games
    And don’t forget he’s a father now.

    • @macmadness5932
      @macmadness5932 Před 5 lety +1

      I mean, he doesn't ALWAYS say that's just a theory. Exhibit a) that's just a monika!

    • @paxtonw.7254
      @paxtonw.7254 Před 3 lety +1

      @@macmadness5932 Christ dude

  • @datguyisandog6794
    @datguyisandog6794 Před 6 lety +16

    6:52 the cat's seeing some creepy shit

  • @tripunisher
    @tripunisher Před 6 lety +38

    They're theories, not facts.

    • @oddlygamers
      @oddlygamers Před 4 lety

      Shark Bomb what it is a opinion bases on facts, but its up to interpretation

    • @tripunisher
      @tripunisher Před 4 lety

      @@oddlygamers HOLY FUCK THIS COMMENT IS 2 YEARS OLD. HOW

    • @Frost-bv2ue
      @Frost-bv2ue Před 4 lety

      @@tripunisher bruh

    • @tripunisher
      @tripunisher Před 4 lety

      @@Frost-bv2ue why u got child porn as ur icon im cryin

  • @KazLordOfLightWarriors
    @KazLordOfLightWarriors Před 6 lety +21

    Seeing the end card made me think you guys should watch the Petscop Series.
    On a completely unrelated note, everyone seems to hate MatPat mostly because he said Scott was wrong about his own game, but this isn't necessarily what he did. He was saying Scott was wrong about the effects about the frontal lobe being torn off, a conclusion he came to because of the sole fact that the only way to differentiate the bites of 83' and 87', was interacting with the specific background object in the specific flashback.

  • @nebulagray88
    @nebulagray88 Před 6 lety +78

    Dude you gotta stop letting that cat get any fatter.

    • @kattishh
      @kattishh Před 6 lety +9

      NebulaGray this literally needs more likes

    • @melonlord5476
      @melonlord5476 Před 5 lety +1

      yikes, at first I thought it was pregnant

    • @kanarieV3
      @kanarieV3 Před 3 lety

      i was looking for this comment

  • @maxrusty3596
    @maxrusty3596 Před 6 lety +16

    Poor cat stop overfeeding that animal.

  • @YinYangAngel55
    @YinYangAngel55 Před 6 lety +5

    Natsuki did mention her father during the normal run. But it was mostly "I can't keep this in my room, I don't know what he would do if he found out" not exact wording but you get the idea

  • @audrafrazier9354
    @audrafrazier9354 Před 5 lety +9

    This is the first video I watched of yours and I unfortunately can't finish even finish it. The shade to MatPat was unneeded, if you don't like Game Theory then don't watch it. Plus the sound is all echo-y so Idk why that is but its kind of annoying.

  • @DerNiko
    @DerNiko Před 5 lety +5

    A point on the Merch images:
    If they weren't alluding to this bigger story, why would the threads spring from Yuri's chest?
    Since Monika is the one actually pulling the strings, wouldn't they be springing from her instead?
    That, to me, tells a huge story and confirms that there's something more there.

  • @GreatValueGamer
    @GreatValueGamer Před 6 lety +31

    Video starts at 3:05

  • @danurusursus5154
    @danurusursus5154 Před 6 lety +9

    The subject about Natsuki not getting much of an ending is kinda true. Like Yuri if you flirt with her the whole first part of the game she gives you a love poem. If your talking about her not really being in the spot light by killing herself then I see what you mean

  • @lorik2005
    @lorik2005 Před 6 lety +44

    Minor MatPat shade is minor

    • @GreenBlue8840
      @GreenBlue8840 Před 6 lety +8

      Sir JeraldFancystache it gets annoying 😥😒

  • @yamikorachel5069
    @yamikorachel5069 Před 6 lety +5

    When they asked if the nothing is real poem was yuris or natsuki poem made me want to bang my head repeatively on the keyboard

    • @CursedHatter
      @CursedHatter Před 6 lety

      Jason Marcoccio why who’s is it ?

    • @yamikorachel5069
      @yamikorachel5069 Před 6 lety +7

      CursedHatter it was no ones it was a special poem that had no writer like it said in the video

  • @razorswordninja2611
    @razorswordninja2611 Před 6 lety +25

    Theory
    a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained
    Just food for thought

    • @Chameleonred5
      @Chameleonred5 Před 6 lety +1

      If false, then it stops being a theory and is considered fiction.

    • @razorswordninja2611
      @razorswordninja2611 Před 6 lety +4

      True. Plus a theory is made based on how someone sees the picture the evidence makes for them

  • @onebulbyboi7499
    @onebulbyboi7499 Před 6 lety +13

    Commentary 101
    Not this

  • @cardinalhamneggs5253
    @cardinalhamneggs5253 Před rokem +1

    "Unless you burn it to the ground, nothing's gonna change."
    That's exactly what Henry Miller was thinking when he and Michael Afton set fire to Fazbear's Fright.

  • @ryokiuzumasa8068
    @ryokiuzumasa8068 Před 6 lety +13

    Yes! I've been waiting for this!

  • @lunarshadow5584
    @lunarshadow5584 Před 6 lety +7

    now that i listen to everything after your guys' questions and explanations after the story, maybe monika is the longest to survive before you and sayori get there, making monika the main heroine however, if she died then sayori would take that roll. Natsuki could be the cult leaders daughter or part of the cult because of her father but not converted yet which could be her hatred towards her father. then there is Yuri is the monster that would try to kill everyone, but there is an ending where you can help her suppress the third eye as she was incapable of doing so before, just needing a reason to, that reason being that she no longer wants to kill, she has something she wants to protect from even herself.

  • @tonyflorez1146
    @tonyflorez1146 Před 6 lety +27

    so the One descripincy is that more of the fans believe that the person who talks to you in Monika's file is The MC of Doki Doki not Monika. mainly because the "you already know my name" because your the one who named them. Also its pretty safe to assume that Elyssa is Natsuki. its hard to tell if Libatina's game is just another game or the real world in the context of the canon story and that doki doki is the meta game within a game or not.

    • @LeynaSept
      @LeynaSept Před 6 lety +13

      Anthony Florez Well Monika says "Can you hear me?" Quite a bit in the game.

    • @tonyflorez1146
      @tonyflorez1146 Před 6 lety

      yeah but its still an indie game, my guess is that it will probably be in first person so saying that person is Monika in another form is kinda inconsequential. i mean we know their not gonna use the anime art style so.

    • @Acorn_Anomaly
      @Acorn_Anomaly Před 6 lety +7

      I would almost agree that the letter could be from the MC/PC of Doki Doki, except for one thing: the letter seems to apologize to the reader for what they put them through. The PC in Doki Doki was a victim. Monika put EVERYONE through a lot of shit in DDLC. She truly comes to regret it by the end, and tries to make up for it with one last attempt at a happy world, by removing herself. When that doesn't work, she ends the club, but she's truly regretful to do so.
      The letter mentions that they "don't think you're evil", and that you've "helped me/us so much". Both of which are things Monika expresses by the end of DDLC.

    • @tonyflorez1146
      @tonyflorez1146 Před 6 lety

      Its still just a theory though... if i had to guess the game is most likely going to be a survival horror game so knowing if its supposed to be monika really wouldn't matter if its in first person

  • @GasperV0
    @GasperV0 Před 6 lety +47

    The react below isn't moving for me

  • @keyshaunjones12
    @keyshaunjones12 Před 6 lety +8

    Im sad these guys dont like matpat i love him

  • @king-killer-joe1601
    @king-killer-joe1601 Před 6 lety +4

    I love on how people got angry at the sans is ness theory and what I find funny is that he said that it’s a theory ona game sheesh

    • @zavexcapricious2519
      @zavexcapricious2519 Před 5 lety +3

      Kingkillerjoe 200 I hate how people give him shit for it when he said himself it was a joke and that it wasn't a serious theory he thought was true at all

  • @TheRichmaster24
    @TheRichmaster24 Před 6 lety +2

    the discussion here was good and easy to follow; the new people are pretty good

  • @Cyandol
    @Cyandol Před 6 lety +9

    The portraits in store remind me what Riot did before they introduced Jhin.

  • @datzach1061
    @datzach1061 Před 6 lety +11

    Doki Doki Is Not Okie Dokie

  • @bilgewaterblues5370
    @bilgewaterblues5370 Před 6 lety +5

    Awesome reaction! Also, I think that Natsuki is actually Elyssa.

  • @onyxgrnr666
    @onyxgrnr666 Před 6 lety +13

    No explanation on the fact that they r all wearing the same shirt

    • @kerahbundy5705
      @kerahbundy5705 Před 6 lety +8

      They go to a school with a dress code. They're wearing uniforms.

    • @onyxgrnr666
      @onyxgrnr666 Před 6 lety

      Kerah Bundy oh ok ill take your word for it

    • @carlitodorito
      @carlitodorito Před 6 lety +8

      ...I think they’re talking about us lol. The explanation is that we’re huge nerds with a bunch of matching shirts. We have at least 3 or 4.

    • @onyxgrnr666
      @onyxgrnr666 Před 6 lety

      Carly Price lol thanks
      Also i forgot that youtubers even check comments lol thamls for that

    • @Kendorable
      @Kendorable Před 6 lety

      Carly Price 3 or 4 each??

  • @AcousticMiguel
    @AcousticMiguel Před 6 lety

    I had chills throughout the whole video. Can't wait till the new game comes out!

  • @bomber9012
    @bomber9012 Před 6 lety +8

    React to Game Theory Fnaf. There are still alot that you guys missed.

  • @joshblackwell8632
    @joshblackwell8632 Před 6 lety +8

    Was anyone else watching the cat the entire video??

  • @ohshoot7176
    @ohshoot7176 Před 6 lety +3

    JUST A MONIKA--
    Killed me-

  • @imprisic6319
    @imprisic6319 Před 6 lety

    i like how they decide to have a 3minute conversation when they start the video instead of before.

  • @vinniesiftheads3650
    @vinniesiftheads3650 Před 5 lety +2

    I guess once again Mat Pat was wrong since nothing happened in 2018...
    It was until 2019 when Team Salvato announced something for the game, an update as he described.

    • @xXMemelord
      @xXMemelord Před 3 lety

      VHA 93 the time was wrong. the game still probably exists. id imagine they delayed it after how popular doki doki became, and how much people liked it. they wanted to top it, iirc.

  • @neringak.6723
    @neringak.6723 Před 5 lety +2

    22:38 OMG cat is interested in this to XD

  • @tatasvids2953
    @tatasvids2953 Před 6 lety +3

    Yay you finally watched it!

  • @kazuichisouda2026
    @kazuichisouda2026 Před 6 lety +10

    It's not Matthew Patthew, or Matrick Patrick. It's Patthew Matrick, get it right.

  • @rei4907
    @rei4907 Před 4 lety +1

    Everything aside, that cat is scared during the whole video i laughed so much, i couldn't focus on anything else

  • @autumnblizzard
    @autumnblizzard Před 6 lety +9

    You guys should watch some of the GTLive streams. Matpat is an extremely nice guy who helps the community and tries his hardest on his videos. It really irritated me to see you guys being so rude when talking about him. It's clear you don't know him at all.

  • @Bhorius
    @Bhorius Před 6 lety +1

    Fun fact: the “nightmare” posters that feature the girls being tied with red string weren’t made by Satchely (the artist who drew the characters within the game), but by someone else, who I’m pretty sure didn’t participate in making the game itself, at all. This means they can’t be considered official art, but instead are fan art (further supported by the fact that their merch store has more strictly fan art now), and so the symbolism in them doesn’t exactly have to match what the developers had in mind. Also, I agree that the string coming out of Yuri is a pretty big stretch. If anything, it’s more likely that the string punctuates what happens to the girls thanks to Monika’s tampering (considering it’s wrapped around Sayori’s neck), so in Yuri’s case it symbolizes her fatal stabbing, while Monika, being completely unmolested and the string only manifesting as a neat bow tie for her, is made out to be the point of origin.

  • @rocketwiz
    @rocketwiz Před 3 lety +1

    The whole point of Game theory is to theorize about games even if it’s a stretch like his Mario videos. it’s still interesting and entertaining to watch.

  • @jennisangel4537
    @jennisangel4537 Před 5 lety +1

    I’m also surprised matpat didn’t mention that when you choose someone besides Monika in act 2 of the game and you get two eyes on a white screen, they aren’t monika’s. They’re blue. They’re either sayoris or yuris.

  • @sunnick6010
    @sunnick6010 Před 6 lety +7

    This is cool! Maybe for your next reaction, you should react to Doki Doki Forever! It’s an awesome fan made song by OR3O and I love it! You’ll see for yourselves.

  • @Eyrony_
    @Eyrony_ Před 4 lety +5

    I've watched a decent amount of your guys' reactions but this one just really bothered me. MatPat makes THEORIES, which are ideas that are made to possibly explain vague questions about a subject or topic. Unless it was proven to be fact, it isn't. I thought that was obvious.

  • @generictimestamperstupendi9021

    Intro pt is a horror game, tried to be erased, angry/flappy bird
    2:24 name is... Brain disconnected
    4:20 Nate: oh... Its been like that ...
    6:50 cat staring
    15:40 could've just blocked out the page
    16:30 scott doesn't know his own game... In that video I simply took it more as a discussion on pschyology and matpat brought up trivia i haven't thought of in a long time (primarily his whole segment on Phineas Gage) . Yea ultimately it wasnt even the infamous bite of '87 and therefore was (more or less) pointless to bring up in regards to the game, but as a history/psychology segment it was interesting... People did some REEEEEAALLLYYY fucked up things in the past if it meant they MIGHT be "cured" (cuz hey you only use 10% of your brain after all , why keep the whole thing lol)
    23:35 Nate: see that ring like... seevveehn ddaaays.......

  • @smithbros9549
    @smithbros9549 Před 6 lety +3

    Who else is just watching the cat

  • @dragonsreingsupreme1
    @dragonsreingsupreme1 Před 6 lety +1

    i love how we couldnt actually see what was going on.... but the production quality wasn't..great

  • @therandomfreak
    @therandomfreak Před 6 lety +1

    Maybe project libitina(don’t know how to spell it) is a kind of ghost character that has her OWN character file that she uses to control monika and the others

  • @BoneJaver3000studios
    @BoneJaver3000studios Před 6 lety +1

    Have requests for the Renegades? Join their Discord! discord.gg/A47zkAw

  • @Awesome_Pichu
    @Awesome_Pichu Před 6 lety

    Damn, these creators were really hoping this game got enough fans for this amount of effort to find these eggs

  • @Ayame_bun
    @Ayame_bun Před 4 lety

    I like how the cat is just watching this with them lol

  • @duckonquack4232
    @duckonquack4232 Před 6 lety +1

    I was In bed watching this while a stink bug attacked me

  • @cassidyallen675
    @cassidyallen675 Před 5 lety +1

    Um do they not realize the screen is messed up?

  • @All54321
    @All54321 Před 6 lety +2

    The video isn’t working? On the bottom of the screen that is...

  • @hairlokk8672
    @hairlokk8672 Před 6 lety +1

    I believe he is right tho about the bloodlines "My Heart Pounds" Yuris picture says, its close enough for me

  • @awobbie.3140
    @awobbie.3140 Před 6 lety +2

    It's a great theory, but I ultimately think there is more evidence to support Natsuki being Libitina. She matches almost all of the symptoms just as well as Yuri does - albeit much more subtly. Furthermore, the BMI given on Project Libitina would place Libitina as underweight. Granted, for Yuri, it would have been 15 years earlier that the BMI was taken (she is 18 as of DDLC). But let's actually take another look at this whole age thing. According to Project Libitina, Libitina was born on January 5th, 2001 (this immediately eliminates Monika, born on September 22nd). This game seems to take place in 2016, which would make Libitina about 16 years old when the game takes place. This would not befit Sayori (who didn't show most symptoms anyways) or Yuri (who seems to be a senior). However, it would befit Natsuki, who, according to the Main Character, was a first year student (the average age for a first year student in Japan would be 15-16).

  • @fortis3686
    @fortis3686 Před 6 lety +4

    Can you guys react to more Alternate History hub?

  • @PutThemGrippersAway
    @PutThemGrippersAway Před 5 lety +2

    *still waiting for the supposed new game*

  • @nunyabiz8305
    @nunyabiz8305 Před 6 lety +3

    Ben, Micah, Caleb look different, hmm..............

    • @graciegj63
      @graciegj63 Před 6 lety +1

      nunya biz I think we're viewing alternate universe renegades. Like that Red Dwarf episode. Maybe Micha's a natural blond lol. 😆

  • @connorniece5323
    @connorniece5323 Před 6 lety

    You guys might consider star wars rap battles as some reaction material, their awesome

  • @dylandreisbach1986
    @dylandreisbach1986 Před 4 lety +1

    There’s nothing scarier than repetition.

  • @bryanegelhoffsanimationtec257

    Yay! More GT reactions!

  • @generictimestamperstupendi9021

    so apparently youtube decided to screw me over and make my old comments not appear at the top anymore on random videos, so after scrolling far enough im just gonna repost the ones from before and HOPEFULLY it sticks
    16:30 scott doesn't know his own game... In that video I simply took it more as a discussion on pschyology and matpat brought up trivia i haven't thought of in a long time (primarily his whole segment on Phineas Gage) . Yea ultimately it wasnt even the infamous bite of '87 and therefore was (more or less) pointless to bring up in regards to the game, but as a history/psycholog/medical segment it was interesting... People did some REEEEEAALLLYYY fucked up things in the past if it meant they MIGHT be "cured" (cuz hey you only use 10% of your brain after all , why keep the whole thing lol)
    Intro pt is a horror game, tried to be erased, angry/flappy bird
    2:24 name is... Brain disconnected
    4:20 Nate: oh... Its been like that ...
    6:50 cat staring
    15:40 could've just blocked out the page
    23:35 Nate: see that ring like... seevveehn ddaaays.......
    What did Jacob say at roughly 7:58 ? Cease and desist!
    34:40
    37:50

  • @generictimestamperstupendi9021

    What did Jacob say at roughly 7:58 ? Cease and desist!

  • @lunarshadow5584
    @lunarshadow5584 Před 6 lety

    i wonder if it is going to be visual novel in art form but choice based gameplay where it uses those love meters as something close to sanity meters of all other girls based on your choices, for instance: if you get closer to Yuri, maybe she kills everyone else but not you in a yandere fashion, or help her successfully suppress as her third eye blood lust seeing as it failed before, saving the other girls, or at least who was still alive.

  • @qliphalpuzzle5453
    @qliphalpuzzle5453 Před 6 lety +43

    So the game is basically Higurashi

    • @pizzarayy
      @pizzarayy Před 6 lety +7

      Pretty much. Multiple worlds; having to have other characters remember past lives to reach a happy ending, the bloodlust is also kind of like hinamizawa syndrome. Both have an after-school club where shit goes wrong around a festival.
      Sayori reminds me of Rena (both greet the protag in the beginning and have a side they don't show to him), Natsuki reminds me of Satoko (one of the younger members of the club, abusive caretakers, can cook etc). Monika only slightly reminds me of Rika (just for her self awareness).

    • @lop90ful1
      @lop90ful1 Před 6 lety +1

      no

  • @spicyahiroll_
    @spicyahiroll_ Před 4 lety +1

    This video is 2 years old but this whole thing is extremely rude?? Matpat is a very nice guy and puts a lot of effort into his videos. It’s a fucking THEORY!! Come on- and the thing about reddit.. that’s called evidence. He’s the one that pieced everything together. The shade was not needed

  • @pj_2755
    @pj_2755 Před 6 lety

    YESSSSS

  • @enderboy1824
    @enderboy1824 Před 6 lety +1

    Real quick...I don't like to request stuff because I know you guys are busy but...where is RWBY 11? Please consider watching it, it is really good!

  • @jannis11
    @jannis11 Před rokem

    Nice

  • @Zats-pc9pf
    @Zats-pc9pf Před 6 lety +2

    It is called a theory for a reason it is speculation not fact

  • @comfy.cherries
    @comfy.cherries Před 6 lety +1

    So me and Yuri have the same birthday but born in different years

  • @beewyka819
    @beewyka819 Před 6 lety +1

    I don't actually think they converted the binary line by line. You can crop the image then toss it into a image to binary converter.

  • @SebasTian58323
    @SebasTian58323 Před 6 lety

    Nice wallpaper