How I Met Your Father - Why We Still Crave Earnest Comfort TV
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- How I Met Your Father, the gender-swapped update of How I Met Your Mother, is meticulously faithful to the original’s format and its starry-eyed search for love - so why are critics slamming it as missing key ingredients that made the first series great?
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Marshall didn’t give up being an environmental lawyer, he joined an environmental firm and then later became a judge to make decisions that could actually save the environment.
Shit thats right, he still fights the good fight, huh? God i miss this show
Lily also changed her career goal from becoming a artist to becoming a artist consultant. Basically our exceptions have to be curve but we will still achieve our goals in a certain way.
ya but before he became a judge he joined corp law again
@@namishkesavan4053 that’s right but it doesn’t mean your pregnant wife’s boot fetish will cause the family being destitute on the street. As the main income for the family you do what is needed for the good of it. Then have an exit strategy to become what you always wanted to be. In his case was to “Make a difference” not just a environmental lawyer that was his initial aspirations. But like in life things grow and spending time In ones craft can tech you that there is more to that answer. Like a unanimous decision were five votes matter and you’re the fifth.
Charlie Kelly is a better tv lawyer than Marshall.
I related so much to Wanda in Wandavision for how much she found comfort in cheesy sitcoms.
Ditto, many people can relate to this form of escapism, and the complexity of loss.
Same with me
I do too.
While I don’t consider HIMYM to be cheesy, I do understand your point and completely relate. HIMYM for me is my number 1 go to show for escapism or to have on in the background while having dinner. I’ve watched this show dozens of times and it never gets old. It’s definitely my comfort show!
Me, too.
Barney was extremely problematic in the beginning, but that just made his growth even more rewarding and the finale even more disappointing. Plus, Niel’s charm made him bearable.
IT is weird indeed. Everywhere I comment, people tell me how much they love me and my content. Sometimes IT is annoying. But right now, IT would be okay. So say something nice about my content, dear jim
Barney only worked for me because NPH played him. I don't have confidence I would've liked him despite his problematic behavior if he was played by anyone else.
I think character development is lost on people today. Any character needs to be entirely likeable or their flaws will be seen as bad writing.It's lame. We used to have arcs with characters that were evil to their core, bad, but still main characters and people grew to see their side and they changed. We dont need every problematic character to see the light entirely in episode 1. If barney was a good boy episode 1 we wouldnt get the part explaining why he's like he is, why he has trouble with love, etc things many people deal with. (trouble with love not being misogynist XD)
Nah, sorry! It's all NPH, the only reason I can stand Barney is NPH. If you're suggesting HIMYF is missing NPH, then I would say that's possible. For me, he's made up for by Duff, who in no way plays a Barney, nor is she trying to make up for his absence.
The cast is talented, there's more diversity, and they're still getting started so I don't see the point of comparing a show that finished its run with one that's just getting started, and it looks as though it's trying to correct mistakes of the previous show. And guess what? A lot of gentlemen can relate to Ted and Marshal, they're guys that are LOVED (And let's face it, Ted got around a lot too! -Despite his best efforts because he truly was looking for love- Not as much as Barney, but he did, so it's not like a guy has to be an A-hole to get girls to like him)
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Also, the hate-watch culture of today is unbearable. If you're not interested, don't watch it bro! It's okay to like the original and stick to it. Find a show that you're into! Watch Sebastian Stan talk to his schwang in Pam and Tommy, or John freaking Cena dance in his underwear after having sex with the girl who has the most "out there" hair in 2022 (And laugh! That's the point, to entertain and not bore you 😁).
HIMYF is very comforting overall, but if it didn't do it for you, that's okay (Hugs).
Also great job showing KC instead of her kids, we genuinely can't tell who the dad is, for all we know it could be Ian.
To be honest,it was Only Neil that made me stomach Barney after a while. I love a good laugh but it became really gross and I couldn't look at his growth w/out seeing the issues the character was covered in. It became kind of relieving that he and Robin divorced . It made it really hard for them to stay together,for me.The amount of resistance to growing made a relationship for them too unrealistic,even for a sitcom.
They could have easily made a "Barney" genderswapped type to be like Samantha in SATC if they wanted to? Samantha was a funny and sex=positive person who was funny as well as 3 dimensional. It could have worked and also avoid the sexist issues. (Not because she's a girl but because Samantha didn't have harassing traits)
That's true. She didn't fuck her employee until he was so obviously incompetent she had to fire him.
Yeah you are right. But a barney gets celebrated because he is a bro and the man. And a woman who does the same is considered a slut (by some people).
Sure why not
@@niahoad Oh my god shut up already. Funny how people like you say that's how it is yet can't point to even one example that shows people are okay with a male character and not a female character who acts exactly the same.
@@niahoad Maybe in 2010s that would have been the case, but now woman get celebrated if they sleep around. Just take a look at the amount of songs about that. They are just known as the cool, party girl now.
The original framing device worked better because we couldn't see Bob Saget, and his narration was more entertaining. Seeing Kim Cattrall on screen kind of takes away from the same impact, though it's likely done to conceal the son's ethnicity, since the possible father could be a man of colour. Plus, it saves them from having to rely on old footage to stop him from aging out of the role.
Her video chatting her son to tell him a story makes it feel less personal too.
It’s not intended to have the same impact it’s trying to do something different
A different impact
The son sounds like he’s an adult not a kid cuz she seems to live alone or he’s at least in college
@@heathersherwood3361 he’s probably at college or something
It’s not less personal it’s just different it’s just how it’s handled these days and probably cuz of the pandemic they did it like this
@@madnessarcade7447 Maybe, I understand it not ending the same way or the main girl going through different situations.
@@madnessarcade7447 It’s just if you are telling a story to your kid doing it through video chat takes away the personal impact of it. I understand the pandemic affected things, but it feels less personal to me. That’s just my opinion though.
I like how lighthearted the reboot is. It’s refreshing compared to the dark dramas and dramedies I typically watch. You need that lightheartedness in your life.
I agree
People should give it a chance
It’s very wholesome
Ya I like it so far because its' comforting, we should't compare it to the original because the original is a fully formed product. It's just figuring out what the tone is and everything. At least people are watching the show. They have a lot of avenues they can go down. Not every first season of a show is good, gotta give those shows time to breathe and develop.
@@manavdhawan3313 I'm waiting before watching it because I am afraid I'm gonna be disappointed, especially since the reviews haven't been that good. I'm kind hoping by the end of the first season they'll have found their footing and that season 2 will be great. Then I'll be able to withstand a couple weird episode. But if I watch it now and it disappoint I'll probably never watch it again. I'm kind of stubborn that way
@@johannasegard737 the reviews and ppl on the internet are exaggerating. It's the typical reaction to when something doesn't live up to something ppl considered perfect. So whatever came after was always going to get bashed. I dont think the show is AMAZING, but it's fine, ligh-hearted television and doesn't really deserve the hate it's been getting in my opinion.
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I'm treating it as the Lizzie Mcguire spin off and I'm having a blast
The show we deserved.
YES EXACTLY!!!
Ok this just rebranded everything about the show for me thank you.
Lmao
ME TOO! This is the spiritual Lizzie McGuire reboot.
I think it’s premature to compare a show that started to a show that has run 9 years. Give them a chance build a foundation. Even season 1 of HIMYM had buildup that catapulted it. It was season 2/3 where it got really good!!
I agree but Season 1 had the Pineapple Incident
tbh himym catched me at the very first episode and the pineapple incident sealed the deal.
I think it's the characters that are lacking even if you don't compare them they aren't compelling and 1:1 as every other TV show characters we see on screen. They could've done more with then and I wish it were more controversial it comes off like a Twitter TV show that a realistic one or maybe it's bc I am German
Season 2 improved but still it got cancelled. It was getting interesting and many were eager to know who the father might be but these people comparing it with HIMYM ruined it's chances.
4:37 You called her Valencia a couple times but her name is Valentina.
Glad a comment made note of this. They did it numerous times smh.
Hilarious to me that they combined the actress’s name “Francia” and the character’s name “Valentina,” and did it multiple times.
That shows how bad Valentina is
Most shows need a season 2 to grow into their potential- interested in starting this and glad to know it’s already lined up for season 2. Love Hilary duff
I think himyf’s interesting twist is about sophie’s sad childhood and her issues with her mom. She wants the stability that a relationship gives. I also think that sophie is way more toned down compared to ted, ted fell hard for everyone and goes into serious relationships left and right but sophie takes her time and is revealed to have never had an actual relationship. She’s anxious about love and while ted’s arc is about taking things slow while sophie’s is probably going to be about letting herself take risks. The first few episodes weren’t great but i feel like all the characters are starting to get into their place.
I am actually very optimistic about How I Met Your Father! Especially as a lot of the critisism simply states that the show lacks in comparison to the original. Which is extremely natural, as we are only 6 episodes into the first season of the show. Some of the running gags and catchphrases that made HIMYM iconic weren't even introduced until much later. Like, the ducky tie first arrived in season 7. As of right now, I'm simply enjoying the characters getting to know each other, the writers figuring out their style, and the mystery of the father
Hey as long as they can call out the BS of ALL the characters this time around then I’ll be able to enjoy this show without looking back and finding things disturbing in hindsight.
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I specially like that since we don't know the kid, ANYONE can be the father, which was a very smart decision. Also, I feel like Valentina is a Barney-type of character, so I don't feel like we are missing barney as most people say. And Charlie totally is a gender swapped Rachel Green
@ Imagine if the father turns out to be a trans man who at the point of the first episode didn't realise he's trans yet. The possibilities would be endless lmao
@@kareemmasri3934 Can you explain? I haven't wathc HIMYM and don't remember anyone not getting called out on their bs except for Ted sometimes
2:40 I think the real reason we do not see the son is not the aging problem. It’s so that the ethnicity of the son is unknown.
Sophie’s love interests differ in ethnicity.
They could not do that with Ted, because it was obvious his children were white.
That makes so much sense
@@iasmin8490 yeah, definitely now that I am also remembering that it seems Sophie’s son is also an adult when she is telling the story, so it is definitely not so much the aging problem.
Glad he’s an adult so that it does not have the same HIMYM dynamic of a parent regaling their adolescent children with stories of their friend group’s one-night-stands.
Still weird to regale your adult offspring with those stories though (and they have the son comment on that)
It's been renewed for season 2, I have hope for the storytelling, and also the love stories. In sitcoms, romance is mostly about jealousy, infidelity and fear of commitment, I want to see something else.
The real problem it's the comedy. It just feels forced.
If Gloria Calderón Kellet worked on HIMYF it could have been nicer because she wrote for HIMYM and then she created the One Day at a Time Netflix reboot, which was surprisingly great
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You know what would be a waaaaay better spin off? "How I met your in law", where barney's daughter gets to tell barney how she met his son-in-law
omg yes!
That would be hilarious imagine she using Barney's techniques or how uncle ted inspires her to get her true love
No no "how I met your step-mom" would be better
I never really thought of the nostalgia as a theme of the original show, but that does explain why the gang were so hung up on pop-culture from 80s and 90s.
I was afraid of watching How I Met Your Father...but now it's probably the first reboot I actually want to watch. It's not trying too hard to be "dark and edgy", it brings up the best of the old, but it has its own flavor. I mean I don't think it will be as timeless as HIMYM, no reboot could ever be. But it seems like good light-hearted fun.
Himym is not timeless it has ages horribly
What people often forget is what made Barney truly great: This great womanizing misogynistic jerk was a great friend to everyone in the group and oh yeah he's played brilliantly by one of the world's most famous gay men who is married with two kids.
I like that it’s set up on a different path than the original
So it doesn’t repeat the same mistakes
It’s only been five episodes we don’t know where the show will go so things can escalate but let’s see where the show goes before jumping to conclusions
Exactly. I think the 60% from audience members are saying that most people who watched Himym who aren't turned off by the new cast are unsure of the final quality of the show. Giving it time is essential because it's a sequel of a show that people still watch to this day.
Who knows this show can become the next fraiser if done right.
@@Killgore-ip2yq true
I keep hoping they let Ellen grow into a little bit of Barney's smooth operator traits. It seems like she doesn't stand on her own two feet yet -- which isn't altogether bad since she literally just moved to NYC, but it shouldn't continue forever. I'd love to see her arc leading to her casually and easily picking up multiple women in the background of the main story as a running gag.
In general I really hope the writers find their footing. I want so badly to love it. There's just so many jokes that I feel like don't land quite as well as they could have, even if the overarching plot point is solid. The setup of accidentally inviting a classy guy to a trashy party? Fantastic! The actual delivery? Pretty lackluster. Or maybe I'm just too cynical for this story? Who knows.
I actually love HIMYFather. Everything about the show seems so familiar & easy. So far no standout characters & I like that about it. I do miss the storytelling from the original but Imma give this a shot.
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I think the new show is great, Hilary Duff is so sweet and likeable, she pulls off earnest really well. The cast has good chemistry, the diversity feels organic and not forced, and it's total comfort food. I hope it makes it for a few seasons. Plus we get Kim Catrall playing a character discussing her love life, something everyone loves. ☺️
I feel one of the main things HIMYF lacks is MacLaren's Pub or a Central Perk as in Friends. Having seen the first 5 episodes, it constantly shifts between locations without providing a common constant for a considerable amount of time. Maybe they will include the bar more later on but I felt that the characters are always doing something or going somewhere instead of the more hangout amongst friends style used by the other two shows.
I get what you’re saying, but this feels more real. Who really goes to the same spot everyday for 5+ years?
@@jaik923 billions of average people all around the world.
@@scaccu yea that called "home", or "work". Billions of ppl dont have the time to get drunk at the same exact bar every day of the week besides on TV...
@@jaik923 I do lol
@@jaik923 it's sitcom 101a show has a place where they all hang out. The max, cheers, the peach pit, shooters... Eric's basement
I was today years old when I discovered there was a How I met Your Father....
The first few episodes were not that great but the show is growing on me… hoping for the best ‘coz I love Hillary Duff and Kim Cattrall
Can I state the obvious for a second here? The biggest difference between HIMYM and HIMYF is that How I Met Your Father is not actually funny.
I've only laughed out loud once, 5 episodes in :( maybe we're the cynics they're referring to lol
@@HeyyJillian it's just not good writing. Five episodes in and I still know very little (and care very little) about these characters. And to top it off - it's unfunny. Diversity doesn't excuse bad writing. There's plenty of examples of both things at play - New Girl, Brooklyn 99, The Good Place, etc.
Its not funny and yet due to people like us who think its not funny we’re the ones at fault because we prefer the older, funnier, not as diverse cast( not that thats a problem) over the more diverse less funny show. Like previously mentioned its possible to have funny diverse shows, however theres nothing wrong with the less diverse, not privileged cast of the better show
It tries way to hard, sounds like Twitter and the characters are bland. Is this how these writers talk with their friends? I know Barney is probelamtic but that's what made him and his growth great. Not everyone is perfect and humans are morally grey. Even as a girl I laughed at Barney's jokes idk
Exactly! They don’t have a solid cast. The og cast were great at comedy
Maybe I should give it one more shot. When I watched HIMYM I thought "wow I can meet this people in real life, this people could be my friends". While watching two first episodes HIMYF I thought "it's Instagram peolple with perfect makeup and perfect haircut. Situations unrealistic. Where is real people whom I can relate to?" And show was boring and... i don't know... extremly clean as if writers was scared to say something "not approvable" by most part of society.
By introducing the father in the first episode I like that it set up the show on a different path immediately we just have to play detective and guess who and means that we won’t have another Tracey situation
It has faithful elements but it’s a completely different set up and that makes it refreshing
Yea but a lot of reviews in trailers are praised
I think you help me understand it more now. Just wish they'd level up its comedy deliver. I have a few real laughs but overall it's charming characters that keeps bringing me in despite lacking some more development
I think how i met your father is... OK. Storytelling wise is a little bit confusing at times. HIMYM was great at telling many stories in 20 minutes with a good resolution.
With HIMYF I feel like not a lot happens, and there are things that could be explained or told in a better way. The characters don't feel fully realized.. but that can take more time.
Most jokes don't land really well, or there are many missed opportunities for them. Plus HIMYM has so many iconic lines and gags from the first episode.
I mean, I really want this show to do well, it has potential, and I agree that it's comforting... but it's going slow for now. I hope they listen to the critiques and take it up a notch.
I was trying to put my finger on what this show was missing, and this video really helped me. It's how the story is told. Sure, there are other issues I have with the show, but that's what I kept feeling was missing. It doesn't feel like HIMYM, but a regular sitcom that wouldn't be affected if the narrator was removed entirely. Hopefully if it gets a season 2 this will be fixed or at least more leaned into. Part of the issue is Sophie isn't really able to talk about her friends the way Ted was, by leaving the possibility the dad could be any of the guys (which I found hilarious at first) she can't really go into their storylines with the son making the narration even less impactful on the other characters' storylines.
It's honestly too safe as a sitcom. It's not that I don't like the characters and even think they made significant improvements with the narrator being more present in the show, but I feel that Himym could be rewatchable even by today is because the situations are more relatable than HIMYF because the new show is unrealistic in making us relate to these people outside the superficial.
True. I have been wondering about that and I came to the conclusion that Older Ted could say absolutely everything he wanted because he could talk freely about "Aunt Lily" and "Aunt Robin" and "Uncle Marshall" and "Uncle Barney." But Older Sophie doesn't have that freedom. The best she could do is call them all by their names (like "See, darling, when I first met him Jesse/Sid/Charlie/Iain was [insert whatever] because when he was a little kid he [insert joke]") but she'd more naturally call the dad "your dad." She could do it with "Aunt Valentina" and "Aunt Ellen" I guess, but so far I have the impression that they're not willing to.
Another issue I see is that Older Ted's narration was hilarious because they really leaned into his being an unreliable narrator and his making comments about the characters and events and his telling his kids little stories from the other characters' cast, but Older Sophie just doesn't do that at all.
Final issue I see with Older Sophie: she's just not funny at all. Her one-liners are very silly and they also depict her as someone who is both very snobbish/pretentious/condescending and extremely different from the Sophie we see in the series. I personally find her very unlikable. With Older Ted you could feel Ted's personality, with a few changes that go with aging -- wiser, calmer, his sense of humour drier, but he was the same character we knew.
I think the reason why Sophie doesn't speak about her friends the way Ted was, is because she met most of them the day the story starts, she didn't know much about them at that time, they don't have history together before the story started so bassically everything that Ted has talked about in a flashback for example will just happen on screen
The characters aren't relatable and unfunny. I didn't laugh once whilst with HIMYM I even laughed at controversial Barney jokes. Honestly idk what US TV shows are doing nowadays but it's not surprising they aren't doing as well as they used to
I disagree that Barney wouldn't be "politically correct" enough for today's audiences. From the get go Barney was a character, even if we immersed in the story, he still seemed like he was not a realistic portrayal. From the suits he wore like a costume, to the catchphrases that masked his true thoughts, Barney was always just obviously a character and one who held a huge agency in his self-creation. That's made his misogyny digestible enough. Although some of the things he says and does are super-offensive and border on abusive/predatory, the story itself treats Barney with enough ridicule that an intelligent audience doesn't think for a moment that the show truly condones his lifestyle and portrays it as more inspirational than what, for instance, Marshall and Lily had.
But the show condoned Ted's abusive and manipulative behavior towards women, if anything barny's whole existence was just to say Ted's behavior was okay, that he is the "good guy" cuz at least he is not as bad as Barney
Your talking in an age where villians aren't allowed to misgender people.
@@BioshadowX buddy, if you begin your sentence with a grammar mistake, your argument really doesn't shine too bright
and it's simply stupid and not true 🤷
@@silverandcoldone blame auto correct on phone. And off the top of my head-
Last of Us 2
Pretty Little Liars
She Ra
My Hero Academia
Im sure I could find more if I turned to trusty friends like google, and reporting like Vice and Kotaku too
@@BioshadowX Child, are you really gonna complain that villains didn't happen to misgender people? Do you hold superhero movies to the same "Thanos shitty villain, didn't misgender Iron Man" standard? LOL.
Honestly just saw it as the Lizzie McGuire spin-off I wanted 😭😂
here is my problem with this show, i am what 6 episodes in and i still dont remember the characters names, except drew...even sophie i have to think real hard to recall her name, HIMYM i knew everyone by episode 2, what they stood for , what thier arc was etc. im still going to watch as it isgetting better, but still
i don't think that the show doesn't show us the son to avoid the ageing of the son but to not limit the father race like himym did with the white kids from the start ..
It feels like someone told a robot what an "average millenial" was like and asked them to write a sitcom about it.
Every group needs that one guy who is eccentric. That guy is eccentric relative to the group. Barney was that eccentric guy. His eccentricity came in the problematic pursuit of sex. But that was what got the comedy. He is the one with wild adventures. Without that the story becomes stale. Thats what made Barney legen-waitforit-dairy
The show IS stale. The characters have no character. You could mix up their names and background and end up with the same thing. It's Not fun in any way.
Unfortunately I'd have to agree. The jokes, the dialogue, relationship dynamics seem forced and often fall flat. I don't think it's the actor's faults, but Sophie and the guy who's supposed to be the main love interest have no on screen chemistry. Overall, extremely forgettable characters and plot lines. I really wanted to love this show!
The biggest problem of How I met your father is the fact that it doesn't look natural and real. Everything seems to be scripted from the dialogue to the situation. Even if How I met your mother also felt like that for some moments overhaul it felt like watching real people going through thing we all went through so it felt relatable. This kind of show need to be relatable from the characters to all the situation they go through.
I find it to be the opposite lol
Do really feel like how I met your mother showed realistic people? I love the show but everything was so overdrawn.
I feel the exact same. The dialogue and jokes seem very forced while in HIMYM even tho the characters were a bit over the top it still felt like watching real friends interacting and making jokes
huh? HIMYM the situations were sooo manufactured. Might need to take those rose-tinted glasses off. Every other storyline was some version of "OMG what a crazy, crazy coincidence this event happened at this exact moment and I keep running into this exact person at this exact moment in a city of 8mill+ ppl!"
@@Ray03595 Yeah because HIMYM was a cartoonish show, which is another thing this show lacks. I think the whimsical aspects are one of the main things that made HIMYM stand out and it's surprising that a sister show would throw away the core structure of the original, instead of changing something else from the millions of other elements of the original.
And I think what the original comment was referring to, is that despite outlandish situations and scenarios HIMYM still had dialogues and performances that felt very natural and most conversations felt like real conversations between real people. How I met your father has the main cast become besties after one 30ish minute cab ride and then a 10 minute long mission for the lead to get her phone back from the cab driver. What the f? Literally the most ridiculous scenario I've ever seen in the pilot of an episode, and maybe if the dialogue wasn't so forced and stiff and unnatural, it could be forgiven but-.
I've never met someone who talks like any of the characters in How I met your father, they don't talk like real people, it's like they're giving a scripted and rehearsed TED talk every 5 minutes, and again, maybe if they were funny it could be overlooked; the way HIMYM had some episodes with not so great dialogues but God at least the jokes were witty, clever and funny.
I really hope they find better writers because I was really excited for the reboot but my God this show is just bad, so far there aren't any redeeming qualities besides a decent production design and mediocre actors who could potentially shine quite bright under a good director. I know they're not trying to replicate the original show but instead take some inspiration from it, but by changing the core and main things that make the original what it is AND also writing awfully boring and predictable bits and jokes, I just don't see a bright future for this show although I hope they prove me wrong and try to improve it.
I think every episode of this show has been better than the last. In particular, the most recent one "Rivka Rebel" was very HIMYM! Jesse and Sid had a very "Ted and Marshall" storyline, and Ellen had some very "Scherbatsky" behavior that made me laugh. I am sticking around for this. As the video said, it's just comforting and fun.
Don't forget that while Barney was the obvious, overt narcissist, ted was the covert narcissist who was. in many ways, more problematic than Barney. If Hillary Duff's character isn't like that, good (I haven't watched yet) and if the main male characters on the show are actively avoiding those characteristics, then you're only going to have the 1-dimensional sleaze bags everyone can see from a mile away and there won't be any room for them to grow. At least with Barney, we got to understand why he became the way he did, and we got to see him learn from it.
The showrunners didn't see the problem with ted, and thus we never got to see him grow as a person, the most we got from his parents were emotionally distant, hide your real feelings bullshit, so ted (it seems) just ran with, a disney ending mentality that everything will work out, instead of learning it takes work to build a relationship with someone, and you can't make two people work no matter how much they like each other if they have to change who they are to be together.
I think what you are saying describes modern TV characters- especially male characters. They lack substance, growth, personalities everything that made them compelling. At times I think US TV shows are following twitter instead of producing good, realistic characters. Everyone's 1 dimensional, morally right, honestly there hasn't been 1 widely popular character like Barney in years. I think they should go back to making "problematic" characters again they were the most interesting
If that's the only way to make TV Shows "Interesting" then tv shows can die out, for the sake of humanity
@@Punmaster9001 wdym?
@@sara1coco What do I mean? If shitty characters like Barney are the only "interesting" part of the show, then turn off the tv and read a book. Shitty show's like this only teach people that the bad behaviors are acceptable, so guys will continue acting like trash, and women will learn it's their job to put up with it.
I just watched the first 7 episodes and weirdly loved it, not because it’s amazing, but it was weirdly refreshing. The premise is similar to HIMYM but there’s just enough differences to make it feel unique to it
To be honest its kind of forgetable and feels like a money grab...none of its characters stand out on their own like Ted, Marshal, Lily, Robin and Barney did...Even How I met your Mother became a parody of itself by the final season....Having the same premise twice? Nah...nobody really cares how the starry-eyed girl from NY met the guy...It also falls into a lot of cliches instead of subverting tropes...
So far, it feels more like a romcom than a sitcom, at least in my opinion.
I know these shows both like to think they are challenging traditional gender roles and gendered relationship norms, but honestly they are doing far more to reinforce them. The farthest deviation we get are these tired "woman who likes to act like a man" or "man who likes who acts like a woman" trope. But these tropes themselves further reinforce the gender binary and rigid gender roles, and the idea that relationships can only function within these immutable predefined parameters.
The only comment I've fully agreed with here so far.
how does Hilary Duff's character act like a man, explain? You've said a whole bunch of stuff, but her character is very much a basic NYC white girl... Did anything actually spark this criticism beyond the main character being female?
@@tanyamoretz who else could they be talking about. If you're going to speak for the OP, then name one main female character on the show that "acts like a man". I'll wait.
I’ve never seen an episode of HIMYF but my guess is that the end they reveal that the speaker is like their dads close friend like an “aunt robin” type relationship or(less likely but my preference) they’re lesbian and the “father”’ is just a sperm donor
How i met your father needs a barney a character who kept things fun while we were watching ted search love. I think how i met your father is missing that level of fun Barney brought into the gang
I think the whole thing about HIMYM's cast giving up their dreams to follow a conservative well paying job is wrong
Marshall later quit the GNB to go work for an environment firm, realizing it's impossible to fight for what he believes in, he later became a judge to truly make a difference
Lily quit her kindergarten job to become an art consultant, putting her art degree to good use and achieving her dream
Ted became a college professor and found his true calling, to inspire and teach what he loves
Barney, well he finally got his revenge, then had Ellie, and devote his life to be the father that he never had
It’s Hilary Duff. People are watching because they love the Duff.
Trust me, Wonderful Supplemt to this video (and arguably even entire channel) would be
Critical Drinker's 'Why Modern Movies S-ck'-Video-Series.
The most exciting things so far was that they use the same apartment as HIMYM. Still looking for that hook.
I always hear “Barney was so problematic”. Okay, sure, if that’s your view of him, okay. But the other characters constantly told him everyday how problematic he was. They were constantly telling him how gross, wrong, and sexist he was. So, while Barney for me is the best, the show definitely pointed out that the things he did and said were sexist and wrong. For me personally, I understand I’m watching a fictional tv show and I don’t get my thong even more in a wad over it. Characters exist for a reason and you can love them, or hate them, but why should every and all characters be the same? Why should they all be woke or moral? That’s boring! I also loved Prince Joffrey because he was excellently portrayed a the most annoying little brat! If he was changed to be written as all of a sudden having a heart of gold, I would be so disappointed. The world is full of selfish people. We’re not all holding hands, and that is real life.
Short story- almost 90% people would not watch if there was no Barney.
Yess and that's what made his character good. We knew he was a terrible person, a godo friend and had incredibly growth (well until that ending which we erased). TV shows nowadays are so afraid of stepping over the line and having compelling characters the products are suffering.
The only hang up that I have about this video is how one of the character's names is mistaken as "Valencia" (from Crazy Ex Girlfriend) and not "Valentina."
How i met your mother was often very real ( i don't mean Barney's insane adventures) like they tackled serious issues like abandonment, debt, death, infertility... it wasn't just a sitcom that only was there for laughs.
Barney shouting at his father : if you were gonna be some lame suburban dad why couldn't you have been that for me!?" Will always hit me in the feels.
Or Marshal's devastated reaction when he found out his dad died ( i crie every single time ).
Also the diversity in himyf seems forced at least at the beginning. Himym had James, Ranjit, lily's friend Michelle and it didn't seem forced , it was organic. Ranjit is still my favorite side character. He was like the 6th member of the group .
And shows that play it to safe at least for me are boring .
Himym took risks with a character like Barney but Two and a half men also had that character in Charlie and he was everyone's favorite.
People need to stop being offended so easily.
All of which are side characters that appear less than 30 times combined. POCs in leading roles isn't forced diversity, you just aren't use to seeing non white people.
I don't like How I Met Your Father but I feel your criticisms are somewhat unrealistic. Barney didn't confront his father in season one, nor did Marshall's dad die in the first six episodes. You need to earn the sad plotlines, if HIMYF threw in a heavy plotline like that in the first season, it'd be a major turn off because you're not nearly attached enough to these characters to care. If Barney had confronted his dad (an event that also makes me quite teary) in season 1 or even season 2 I wouldn't have cared because it hadn't been earned yet. How I Met Your Father is very unenjoyable for me but I feel comparing a show with one season too heavily to a show with nine is a bit harsh.
Also lily's friend Michelle is absolutely not a good example because she shows up once as a device for a joke lol. This show has so many faults but the casting isn't one of them.
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I think some people are forgetting that all the inside jokes and running gags happened over many seasons. How I Met Your Father is only in its first season; most shows (even the best ones) take time to find those perfect elements that make it iconic
Why does Hillary Duff look like an actress playing Hillary Duff
Also no one is unproblematic, we learn and grow over time which we see in barney. Give us human characters
Is there a reason why they pronounce Valentina as Valencia?
My wife and I are enjoying "how I met your father", "how I met your mother" wasn't its best in the first season either if you remember, but it was good and got better. We like the more diverse caste, and that it doesn't have exact replicas of each character but still has a similar feel.
Honestly, the only reason Barney worked for me as a character was because of Neil Patrick Harris. Neil has natural charisma, and he is gay in real life which brought a certain fun irony to his womanizer character.
Trust me, Wonderful Supplemt to this video (and arguably even entire channel) would be
Critical Drinker's 'Why Modern Movies S-ck'-Video-Series.
I loved HIMYM. But I hate HIMYF…here’s why:
1. It’s not funny. The jokes are not really good or particularly clever. It’s more of long expositions where the characters tell us “jokes” 🙄
2. None of our characters are unique or particularly memorable. I can’t even remember their names. They tell us their personalities instead of showing us.
3. The storytelling: HIMYF reads more like a romance than comedy. In HIMYM, we loved the switches/catchphrases etc, between the characters.
I could go on and on, but the summary is HIMYF is bland.
i get that Barney is Problematic (as they kids say) but the "show" doesn't make him a hero because of this behaviour, he is drawn as being gross and we are supposed to laugh at him
Ty, I don’t see how people don’t get that
Excatly, like the whole joke was he was awful in the beginning, and that was why his development as a character was so satisfying
@@doctorwhy6366 Trust me, Wonderful Supplemt to this video (and arguably even entire channel) would be
Critical Drinker's 'Why Modern Movies S-ck'-Video-Series.
This!! AND that's what made him great (rip the ending tho), I wish we'd get TV shows like that again instead over these wet towels.
I tried to watch the show, but only 30 seconds into the first episode and a already 5 laugh tracks used was too cringey for me.
It relies too much on technology compared to original show. An unfortunate byproduct 2000s I suppose
@@heathersherwood3361 Yea, the over reliance on tech will date the show quickly.
@@Angi3_6 definitely. Shows need to stop emphasizing it too much. Yeah dating apps are a thing but you are telling me she never had bad dates from people she met in the city!?! She’s a girl that goes out quite in a bit in New York. Meeting people organically can still happen.
@@Angi3_6 also, it all felt random. People became friends in first 2 episodes aside from people who already knew each other. I feel like that would work if it wasn’t based on the show it was.
A reboot with a dated sitcom format: okay for this bland nothing of a show, meanwhile people ignored the truly exceptional ‘ONE DAY AT A TIME’
The popular opinion isn’t always the correct one, it would be better for everyone if more people would step out of their pop culture comfort zones
that hot to crazy graph is still pretty accurate
they couldve gender swapped barney and make a samantha-esqe character with a positive relationship with sex and one-night stands. wouldve loved that
I feel like this channel has gotten better. Respect!
I like the analysis but I wouldn't call a 65% approval a fact that the public loved it
It's not a sitcom, but if ppl want that romantic earnestness they should watch Jane the Virgin, which is also a really good show with twists and turns, that plays with multiple genres.
I like that they didn't just copy How I met your Mother with swiped genders. I was skeptical about the show at first but I like that they have invented new characters and if you watch the show with an opened mind, it's not that bad. Not legen-wait-for-it-dary but not bad at all
I liked how Marshall was such a contrast to Barney and Ted met them in the middle now we have 3 watered down Marshalls
I actually really enjoy How I met your father. It is adorable.
Hope u do more of these as the show progresses
I'm pretty sure she's called Valentina, not Valencia 😂
Painting the more politics-agnostic vibe of HIMYM as a negative is strange. One of my least favorite things about modern sitcoms is that they feel they have to address politics and cultural issues regularly - and MANY people echo that sentiment. We’re tired of wokeness ruining otherwise-great shows.
actually this video confirmed what i could not put my finger on as to why i have trouble remembering the characters, they have too much of everything, and nothing REALLY defines them, so it is hard to remember them
Sophie's BFF is Valentina, not Valencia.
I dont get this analysis, were we expecting an exact replica of HIMYM? Im glad there isnt another barney or robin. Its a new show. It can be corny but I like what they’ve done so far with the show
I just read it's been renewed for season two, so the show is doing something right.
It's on hulu. Not network t.v.
just finished my first rewatch of himym i might actually watch this just for comfort after the finale because it CRUSHED me
I'll probably check it out if I ever get Hulu. Nice video.
. Sophie's bestie is called Valentina,someone should have payed closer attention
Thats how compeling her character was😥🧠🍾💥🌾
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It does seem like a show that is trying really hard not to offend anyone which is just a death nail for any comedy show.
I think what makes people miss the original is just how much different the state of the world was at that point. It’s not because it’s more offensive per se, it just feels nice knowing that there was a time where sitcoms could get away with Barney’s antics and simply play it for laughs without people looking into it too much.
@@jadedjimmy Barney Stinson in today's PC climate will be "cancelled". Comedy has suffered as a result of PC Culture.
@@jadedjimmy I think ppl would still love Barney if we actually gotten a character like that on TV nowadays. Maybe a few would be offended but there's a reason people love controversial characters and why Barney = HIMYM even to this day. People are acting as MEN like him don't exist in real life and it repeatedly said he's gross. It made us love him.
How is it trying?
How about a video deconstructing the Friend Zone and that it doesn't really exist? Insecure guys just overreact to girls not wanting to date them.
I just finished the 1st season of How I met your father is okay but it is incomparable with "How I met your mother". It was just that we need to accept that everything changes over time especially in TV shows and movies. Anyways, my favorite characters in "How I met your father" are Ellen and Charlie, they are so funny
Ellen and Charlie's friendship is the best
There’s no magical realism. It was cool seeing weird stuff happen or time periods blend together as a reminder that this was all from Ted’s memory and it wasn’t reliable.
I don’t remember being wooed into How I Met Your Mother immediately. It took me awhile to get invested in it and I have found the same in How I Met Your Father. While I’m not crazy for it, I do find myself having fun with it and I feel it has real potential.
I kinda figured a femme fatale would be the Barney the show gonna need to do more to make me invested in their arcs
Valentina is sort of like a Barney
I still cannot imagine romantic Hillary Duff turning into Kim Cattrall
Am I the only one who finds myself rooting for Sophie ALOT more than Ted ? 😂
Before I say anything, I just want to say i agree with enough of the topics on here. Generally, you guys do give insightful looks at things that I wouldn't normally see or miss.
With that said, I think you guys are going a bit hard on this sequel. Trying to see characters as replacements for characters in the prequel kind of makes the show seem lesser, when I think the show is doing just fine. It only has what? 6 episodes out as of this video airing. of course it wouldn't have long running gags, of course the flash backs wouldn't work very well. All of these things take time to set up. I have always told people who start new shows to give it a season. most tv shows need that time to simmer, to cook enough so the writers can get a feel for the character. I am really enjoying the show but I feel like sophie and jesse are the weakest characters, but I am excited to see where they go. as it stands I feel like the biggest problem with the show is that these two characters are being out done and given almost nothing to do, when compared to the rest of the cast. Sure, the plot focuses on them but it just seems forced or makes me not care. And even then, as I was saying, the writers will probably fix that by making them more interesting. For me at least, as it stands, sophie is just a generic quirky girl. there really isn't all that much that makes me interested in her, but i feel like there is much potential. jesse on the other hand, feels like he's just the resident sad sack. these two characters just feel boring so far but I can seem them growing into much more interesting characters.
as I've said, I think you guys are expecting a bit too much from the first couple of episodes. I get we all want to have an amazing new show of the decade again, but amazing things take time to build and are not always amazing of the bat.
The part of Sophie and Jesse being the weakest characters so true
What I really liked about HIMYF is that it gives you a group of guys in the beginning and tells you that one of them is definitely the father, like the kdrama Reply 1988. For me, personally, it’s way more intriguing and exactly what I didn’t like about HMYM, I mean you know straight away that Robin isn’t the mother so the whole will they or won’t thing is kinda ruined and then at the end you feel deeply cheated. However it’s different for HMYF because you can actually root for Sophie and Jesse and not know what the result is, it gives you the butterflies and the excitement that I was missing in HMYM.
When I saw the a three-camera sitcom was coming to Hulu I was extremely off-put by it too,
maybe it's not fair, but it feels like something you shouldn't have to pay premium prices for and should be getting free on an actual Network.
streaming has the benefit of asking for premium prices for premium content. I'm not sure why this couldn't have actually aired on television, and had to go directly to Hulu.
HBO is not known for having three camera sitcoms and I think there's a reason for that
If I was the one paying for the Hulu I use, I'd be like "my money is getting funneled into the same crap I get for free, where's genre-bending risky stuff?"
If this kind of show had to be made for a streaming service I think it would be more at home on Tubi. Tubi is 100% free and supported by ads, so they don't have any type of obligation to make a certain type of content, because they're not taking people's money with the promise of giving them something cool, they're getting money from advertisers
I hear what you’re saying, but I think the entire point of this video was to highlight the fact that it’s NOT a genre-bending risky show in a world where literally all of the main streaming services offer genre-bending risky stuff on the regular. Three-camera sitcoms they do not. This video is saying that’s sort of what makes the show special
Ted: that kids is how I met your mother
Barney: that kids is how I _ _ _ _ your mother and never call them back
Marshall: that kids is how I married your mother
I just realised: Watching the himym crew, they were all adults. Sure there was a lot of life left to be lived and we saw all of that happening, yes they were still youthful in spirit and didn't become stuffy, but they were established adults. The people from the new show are kids. They may be similar ages, although I think a bit younger, but they act much younger, less confident, less established in their adult lives, which makes the whole show both, a little more premature and "hey fellow kids".
That, and the crew were already friends with only Robin being new, while these are two separate pairs of friends and their buddies somehow merging
I know you're not supposed to, but I do like shows that have a laugh track. 90s sitcoms are my fav.
The reason I’m not optimistic about HIMYF is specifically because it’s lacking the non-linear storytelling elements within episodes that HIMYM had. I really think that non-linear storytelling was HIMYM’s special sauce - it’s what makes each episode unique and engaging, and the singular time jump to the year 2050 isn’t enough. The HIMYM episodes that I come back to over and over are the ones that have the most surprising story structures - like Burning Beekeeper, Trilogy Time, or the one that centers around Robin in court-mandated therapy.
I support most of the decisions HIMYF made in updating the show to the 2020s. But I’m confused why they chose to leave out the non-linear (within episodes) storytelling element, when leaving it in would have had no negative consequences (that I can think of). As such, it feels more like I’m watching an updated version of Friends than an updated version of HIMYM, and not in a good way.
what's idealistic about wanting to build a skyscraper?
I’m really hopefully for this show I need my comfort sitcom! 😍💖🤟