When Yamaha Almost Went Crazy

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Komentáře • 185

  • @gerrit2107
    @gerrit2107 Před 2 měsíci +349

    biblically accurate cylinder head

    • @Oddman1980
      @Oddman1980 Před 2 měsíci +38

      Approaching the bike with feeler gauges in hand and you hear a booming voice: "BE NOT AFRAID"

    • @actuallyn
      @actuallyn Před 2 měsíci +6

      be not afraid…

    • @normalkid488
      @normalkid488 Před 2 měsíci +3

      got dammit you beat me to it

    • @howardosborne8647
      @howardosborne8647 Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​@@Oddman1980🤣🤣

    • @howardosborne8647
      @howardosborne8647 Před 2 měsíci +4

      ​@@Oddman1980Just don't mix the valve shims up😂

  • @233kosta
    @233kosta Před 2 měsíci +96

    Journo: How many valves does it have?
    Yamaha engineer: Yes!

    • @Desmo500
      @Desmo500 Před 2 měsíci +1

      worked in Japan have you? I laugh-spit my beer out when I read that.... well done.

    • @donaldhudson2235
      @donaldhudson2235 Před 2 měsíci +2

      It's OK to be scared Scared.. Yamaha is going to be back in front. 😊

    • @will7its
      @will7its Před měsícem

      All of them......

    • @donaldhudson2235
      @donaldhudson2235 Před měsícem

      What's funny? Honda took the intercept v4 750 put the Cylinders from the 1100 v4 on it said it was 1003cc they said it made over 150hp how fast it was. They went to Daytona 1983 Kenny Roberts, on a Yamaha YZR 500 two-stroke and whipped that Honda 1000cc v4 🤣🤣🤣

  • @magellanicspaceclouds
    @magellanicspaceclouds Před 2 měsíci +32

    7 valves seems unnecessarily complicated, but I give big props to Yamaha for doing such experiments.

  • @yeahok115sure
    @yeahok115sure Před 2 měsíci +94

    Yamaha is and will always be the greatest head designer

    • @skylinefever
      @skylinefever Před 2 měsíci +8

      I always found it interesting how they built a DOHC head for a Ford OHV block.

    • @yeahok115sure
      @yeahok115sure Před 2 měsíci +9

      @@skylinefever there are a bunch of pretty impressive cars that Yamaha made heads for. The Toyota LFA is another..

    • @martinultimatevw3779
      @martinultimatevw3779 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Vw 1.8t 20v is also yamaha design. 🎉

    • @Dug6666666
      @Dug6666666 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Well they dropped 5 valve long ago even in today's Moto GP prototypes.
      Ducati is better known for getting the most power from a set capacity in recent racing.

    • @jonaslechat9472
      @jonaslechat9472 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Yamaha (and cosworth, we won't forget about them) have proven being the past and current greatest

  • @georgeg7840
    @georgeg7840 Před 2 měsíci +29

    I had a 1985 Canadian FZX 750 (fazer) until 2001, with it’s milder cam than the FX 750 it had lots of torque, at one point I used it to tow a late 70’s Volvo 240 wagon about half a kilometre, my friend had a problem hear his home, with him pushing the driver side door and a 2 or 3 degree downwards slope to get started the bike was able to pull that 1.5 ton car back to his place on the first try without damaging the clutch.
    At some other time I told some friends I was sure it could start in 6th gear with 2 on it with no problem, one of them started arguing that was impossible, ‘grab your helmet Jack’, 5 minutes later we were back at his place where he confirmed to his roommate and his brother that it went so well it was mind boggling.

    • @pauloconnor7951
      @pauloconnor7951 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Don't care what others think.

    • @donaldhudson2235
      @donaldhudson2235 Před měsícem

      Cool I Used to have an 1982 Yamaha XJ750 maximum. The guy who had it before me Use it to pull up Volkswagen about 20 miles. when I got it I pulled a 1981 Honda CB750 it had a Windjammer fairing on from Atlanta Georgia to Phenix city, Alabama 117 miles. I was hit 110 Yamaha was in front of a Honda as Usual.🤣🤣🤣

  • @johncunningham4820
    @johncunningham4820 Před 2 měsíci +53

    Going beyond 5 valves has been demonstrated to increase Valve Shrouding in the Cylinder .
    The 8 valve Honda NR series , was really an altered 32 vale V-8

    • @bluestripes1
      @bluestripes1 Před 2 měsíci +8

      honda was simply smarter than yamaha and realized more valves per cylinder only works if you change the shape of the cylinder, yamaha was stubborn and stuck with a round shape and wasted their time, now they use 4 valve again

    • @johncunningham4820
      @johncunningham4820 Před 2 měsíci +17

      @@bluestripes1. Yeah ? So how Reliable were the NR series Engines ?
      Answer is : They WEREN'T .
      So , you were saying ?
      Honda DID have a good idea , but the Engineering Problems and Hurdles were always going to be a " Huge Ask " and proved insurmountable in the end .
      Yamaha DO still use 5 valve configuration , and sell it to others as well .

    • @PaulG.x
      @PaulG.x Před 2 měsíci +8

      @@bluestripes1 As the OP stated , the Honda NR series was just a 4 valve per cylinder V8 with pairs of siamesed cylinders - designed to get around the 4 cylinder limit imposed at the time.
      It wasn't really an innovation. If it was , there would have been be more than just a token production model.

    • @exothermal.sprocket
      @exothermal.sprocket Před 2 měsíci +3

      Imagine the drag on the systems that forced all those valve springs open. Of course, each spring would have less resistance due to smaller valves, but still.

    • @johncunningham4820
      @johncunningham4820 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@exothermal.sprocket . Exactly . Any Volumetric Gains were Lost again with the added resistance and complexity .

  • @user-pq6gt5mr1p
    @user-pq6gt5mr1p Před 2 měsíci +4

    Yamaha has had their fingers in almost any form of performance engine built over the last 50 yrs. It’s crazy.

  • @ELECTRICMOTOCROSSMACHINE
    @ELECTRICMOTOCROSSMACHINE Před 2 měsíci +9

    Love the show, I raced a Yamaha 5 valve for years.

    • @Toast-ej2lr
      @Toast-ej2lr Před 2 měsíci +2

      Loved my FZR1000! My favorite engine in all of motorcycling. Yamaha really hit the mark with a great design as the valve adjustment intervals were at 26,000 miles. I put close to 100,000 miles on that bike and only made one valve adjustment. These were hard miles too as this bike was a Sunday morning jailhouse special. When I sold her she was still running strong, not smoking or leaking. Wish I had her back.

  • @jujujunya
    @jujujunya Před 2 měsíci +5

    Japan's technological capabilities
    Petrol engines are beautiful.

  • @heerajx582
    @heerajx582 Před 2 měsíci +17

    It has been year's and still I am connected to this channel, love from India 🇮🇳🫶

  • @upsidedowndog1256
    @upsidedowndog1256 Před 2 měsíci +8

    2 valves introduce swirl, 4 valves give the charge tumble. Any more than that and the fluid dynamics get wierd. Valentino Rossi prefered the 4 valve arrangement motogp engine which is why Yamaha stopped using 5 valves. Yamaha's brilliance in engineering is something I have always admired but as a mechanic it usually means more difficult repairs and Yamaha is notorious for not keeping stock of previous year models parts. I own all 3 other Japanese brand bikes due to parts availability. My 1st 4 bikes where Yamahas, I loved all of them!

    • @user-bm8ls6vt1v
      @user-bm8ls6vt1v Před měsícem +1

      4 valves allow a central spark plug, the main reason its so popular

    • @turbojoe9554
      @turbojoe9554 Před 4 dny +1

      we had some success messing with the 5v heads, but changing the valve timing on only the center intake valve. Found a lot of torque from idle to about 4500, then signed off. If there was a variable cam timing available for the 5v heads, I think it could be phenominal, but in those days VVT was not really thought about much. We did it by having a cam grinding company regrind the cam (DOHC, so it had individual lobes), and later did a SOHC 660cc 5v with the same type deal but we had to re-engineer the rocker arms to work. Had we had more time (and especially money & manpower) I think we could have improved on the design even further. Like the prior, all of it was scrapped, as it was just some of us gearheads in a garage trying to make stuff work "better"-and when one of "us" (them) decided to stay out too late & party, it kind of got old having to work around their bad habits which caused some arguements.

  • @_Y.J
    @_Y.J Před 2 měsíci +12

    Gotta love 5 valve engines, they just hit different, a cross flow design would be a headache to design but it id reckon it would rev nicer

    • @johncunningham4820
      @johncunningham4820 Před 2 měsíci +4

      WHAT ! ? Both 4 and 5 valve designs ARE crossflow . Basically by definition .
      In fact Crossflow has be USUAL since the demise of Side-valve Heads .

    • @_Y.J
      @_Y.J Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@johncunningham4820 jeez u sound fun at parties mate,😂😂😂 ok I lemme correct myself. it be cool to see a 5 valve engine, with triflux inspired valve layout on the cylinder head. Happy now Karen 👍🏼

    • @johncunningham4820
      @johncunningham4820 Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@_Y.J . So then , clearly YOU don't take well to being called out on speaking Total Fucking Rubbish .
      5 valve head designs only JUST justify themselves in volumetric efficiency vs mechanical loss over 4 valve designs by a small margin . Sufficient to be worthwhile .
      Diesel Engine (heavy-duty types ) also tried 5 & 6 valve designs and ran into the Same Issues as Petrol/Gasoline Engines .
      Too much valve shrouding .
      Making 90% of the Combustion Chamber into Valve area actually didn't help , and the Mechanical losses DRIVING all that extra complexity , and hence , reduced reliability and increased maintenance , was actually to ZERO net gains .

    • @_Y.J
      @_Y.J Před 2 měsíci

      @@johncunningham4820 mate read the top comment u mong, I never said anything to do with gains, quit whining with ya long paragraphs that no one cares for, take that stick out ya backside and go outside for the first time, u clearly been stuck in ya shed for 50+ years, I never said anything about gains so clearly u can't read 😂😂😂

  • @rm25088
    @rm25088 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Best educational engine channel on you tube.

  • @Spectrolite1
    @Spectrolite1 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Loving the frequent uploads Visio! ❤👍

  • @jasyamaha
    @jasyamaha Před 2 měsíci +5

    Great video, thank you. I didn't know about the 7 value Yamaha's.

  • @IlyushinSPA
    @IlyushinSPA Před 2 měsíci +2

    I had a TDM 900 and a FZS1000s, both of them with 5valves setups. Great bikes!

  • @UnreasonablyIrrelevant-gv8xx
    @UnreasonablyIrrelevant-gv8xx Před 2 měsíci +2

    Lets not forget, they designed the heads and most of all the exhaust and literally tuned the chassis of the Lexus LFA

  • @jamiedean5106
    @jamiedean5106 Před 2 měsíci +1

    my fazer 1000 was a 20v engine, and without its exup it felt super gutless, but the power band was nice after 7k rpm. Sounded super smooth and happy to be up in that rev range. The head never failed on that bike with 70k miles, but their transmissions didn't live long to tell the tale.

  • @horstpopescu1170
    @horstpopescu1170 Před 2 měsíci +2

    habe gerade eine 750 , Yamaha , Baujahr 1986 überholt und war ganz erstaunt dass der Motor fünf Ventile hat und in dieser Zeit war Yamaha der Konkurrenz voraus.

  • @justinmiles977
    @justinmiles977 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Ive been aware of the 6 and 7 valve heads for a while. But Ive never seen pics of the ports for those heads. Im very interested in the port design for those heads.

  • @willywinket
    @willywinket Před 2 měsíci +2

    I remember the genesis engine. Used to want a Radian pretty bad back in the day. 😂

  • @michaelcordes
    @michaelcordes Před 2 měsíci +4

    Didn't maserati try to make a 6 valve and relised that 5 valves was the most efficient design and since then its been accepted beyond 5 valves has no benefit

  • @floydblandston108
    @floydblandston108 Před 2 měsíci +10

    Even the 5 valve was a flop- while it made a great torque curve, it was down on horsepower. It's the old hemi curse; maximum breathing alone isn't enough without proper combustion. After that, everyone settled on the 'pentroof' 4 valve style as the best compromise.

    • @michaelbuckers
      @michaelbuckers Před 2 měsíci

      4 valves is just the magic number for a round combustion chamber, it provides the biggest gas flow without making the valve train overcomplicated. Specialty designed exhaust improves gas scavenging and intake compressor shoves more air into the engine, so that efficiently solves both issues that large number of valves were meant to solve.
      The whole reason anyone even went the route of making more valves over just using a turbo is the arbitrary racing rules and restrictions that they had to work around.

    • @zeke2566
      @zeke2566 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Recent new design have proven 5 valve gives greastest power and torgue combined with a state of the art combustion chamber designed by Patric Miller Engeneering

  • @oldschool8432
    @oldschool8432 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Damn i enjoy these videos
    Thanks Visio racer

  • @Ramsi-Berlin
    @Ramsi-Berlin Před 2 měsíci +3

    Yamaha is so cool ❣️👌🏼
    I Love Yamaha 😅
    Love from Berlin 🇩🇪
    Ramsi 🙋🏻‍♂️

  • @Tom-Lahaye
    @Tom-Lahaye Před 2 měsíci +1

    While the 7 valve head seems too complicated to me and everything above 4 or 5 valves on a smaller engine doesn't bring benefits, the use of 6 valve heads in production engines was real.
    The Maybach MD650-655 and 870 diesel engines for marine and railway traction usage had 6 valve heads, these were operated by only two overhead cam shafts, one of these shafts also operated the mechanical pump/injector units on each cylinder.
    It would be interesting do do a topic on these engines as they were very advanced for the early 1950s when they were developed, I worked on one of them and setting all those valves and injectors is a very intricate job.

  • @turbojoe9554
    @turbojoe9554 Před 4 dny

    did many a valve adjustment on the 5v Yamaha's. And a bunch of 4v Yamaha's. And a ton of 2v and 3v as well. Yes they had a 3v (50cc). I don't miss it but looks like I may get back into it again, 4 year break from working on Japanese stuff and the boss wants to buy a Yamaha dealership.
    doing the valves on a Genesis takes patience, concentration, and a steady but methodic approach. Also requires some good organizational skills to keep up with shims and such. Ain't all that hard if you keep up with everything. Time consuming though!

  • @LordSamuelJ
    @LordSamuelJ Před měsícem +2

    Might as well go with no valves and giant ports at this point

  • @Duken4evr29
    @Duken4evr29 Před 2 měsíci

    One nice thing about 5 valve heads on Yamahas, the smaller intakes hold lash adjustment for a long time. They do like to be fueled on on the richer side, and a bit more spark advance than a 4 valve head, as they aren't as efficient a combustion chamber shape and as a result don't burn as fast as a 4 valve head.
    I had a nicely Ivan's Performance tuned '06 FZ1, it was a liquid revs kind of beast on the cam from 7K to the 13K rev limiter I saw Jesus quite a few times on it 😆

  • @richardfitzwell0420
    @richardfitzwell0420 Před 2 měsíci +1

    While on the topic of Yamaha. I recommend falling down the rabbit hole of their snowmobiles. On the cutting edge of engine technology there too.
    I appreciate every single one of your videos.
    Keep up the great work!

    • @Guovssohas
      @Guovssohas Před měsícem

      Sadly they've recently said that they'll exit the snowmobile business.

    • @richardfitzwell0420
      @richardfitzwell0420 Před měsícem

      @@Guovssohas
      I know eh, very disappointing.

  • @TheSlowDude
    @TheSlowDude Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thanks again

  • @DaveBegotka
    @DaveBegotka Před 2 měsíci

    I needed all the power i could muster back in the 90's racing superbike in the AMA FUSA and WERA and Suzuki IMHO had the best potential for me.....i was 6'4" and 250 with my leathers...lol

  • @sebbumdp9030
    @sebbumdp9030 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Love your content

  • @craigg4246
    @craigg4246 Před 2 měsíci

    I loved him showing Wes Cooley on a Suzuki as an example of a Yamaha race bike

  • @tomj6941
    @tomj6941 Před měsícem

    I have a 1995 yzf 750r it sounds amazing

  • @RamonLinssen
    @RamonLinssen Před měsícem

    Why not have all valves for intake as well as exhaust, with an alternating flap in the attached canal sending the gasses the right way?

  • @custommodspresentation5338
    @custommodspresentation5338 Před 2 měsíci

    Good work keep it up

  • @martymiller4300
    @martymiller4300 Před 2 měsíci

    Was hoping to see the cam/rocker/lifter bucket arrangement on top of the 7 valve head. Still hoping.

  • @SavageBunny1
    @SavageBunny1 Před 2 měsíci

    Like the VW 5V?? I always wondered why they didn't take off, also the valves a more smaller and they WILL crack with heat.

  • @karthickrazer4680
    @karthickrazer4680 Před 2 měsíci

    Yamaha Always Ahead, Unique, Extraordinary and Unbeatable....

  • @mcjdubpower
    @mcjdubpower Před 2 měsíci +1

    Gud vid, been here since beginning 😮

  • @yeahitskimmel
    @yeahitskimmel Před 2 měsíci +2

    I'm just here for the "Howeather"
    Edit: What?!? Dude I've watched your channel since like 30k subs and you're finally nailing however

  • @wickiezulu
    @wickiezulu Před 2 měsíci

    Like to believe that had Yamaha been able to diversify as a low-volume sportscar and kei car producer (e.g. 1961 Yamaha YX30 prototype and a 1958 kei car project) vaguely similar to Lotus (and like Lotus its engineering department working with other carmakers), that 5-valves and maybe bi-turbos would be its USP. Would they have been crazy enough though to try and develop 6/7-valves for cars like Maserati did with a 6-valve engine in the 1980s?

  • @mastathrash5609
    @mastathrash5609 Před 2 měsíci +2

    How many valves do you want?
    As many as possible. If you have to rebuild one I feel like it would be a real pain. But I trust in Yamaha to make a lot of good things

    • @exothermal.sprocket
      @exothermal.sprocket Před 2 měsíci

      Rotary valve would eliminate the design problems with poppet valve systems, but there's a few challenges to overcome with those too.

  • @Kvele
    @Kvele Před 2 měsíci

    Yamaha was ahead of the game with this.

  • @minewolf3605
    @minewolf3605 Před 2 měsíci

    Doing valve clearances would probably take a whole day to do

  • @exothermal.sprocket
    @exothermal.sprocket Před 2 měsíci +3

    Nothing like a good Micron exhaust pipe back in the day (before the company went away). Nice deep tuned tones. Everything today is raspy loud obnoxious and expensive when it comes to exhausts.

    • @mikerieck306
      @mikerieck306 Před 2 měsíci

      I was a Micron dealer in the mid 90's. Nicely made pipes but heavy.

    • @exothermal.sprocket
      @exothermal.sprocket Před 2 měsíci

      @@mikerieck306 They were pretty common, not sure what caused that company to stop producing. I liked their rainbow colored heat treatments. Mainly, they were a simple oval or round shape at varying lengths and the tone they produced was very complimentary to inline-4 cylinders. Today exhausts cost a LOT more, offer less reduction of loudness, offer a much worse tone, and have far more expensive and complicated materials and shapes.

  • @skylinefever
    @skylinefever Před 2 měsíci

    I find this interesting. The most common 5V head I encouter is in the VW 1.8T in the B5 Passat and MKIV GTI.
    Once GDI was introduced, it seems like there wasn't a way to build a 5V engine. Perhaps 5V GDI engines can be build but it was not worth it.

    • @SlowSTEN
      @SlowSTEN Před 2 měsíci +2

      There are 5 Valve GDI engines, but their sparkplugs are offset and not great for road use.

    • @skylinefever
      @skylinefever Před 2 měsíci

      @@SlowSTEN Oh, okay.

  • @johnsmithfakename8422
    @johnsmithfakename8422 Před 2 měsíci

    Freevalve technology could make this almost viable.
    What I am really hoping for is that freevalve technology will revive the 5 valve per piston design.

  • @potatojake197
    @potatojake197 Před 2 měsíci

    1:34 was the saddest clip I have ever seen, had enough power for 2 more gears

  • @jamesgeorge4874
    @jamesgeorge4874 Před 2 měsíci

    Yamaha is a musical instrument manufacturer, first. That lends itself into the study of airflow, of resonance, engines breathe, and make music too.

  • @williamrae9954
    @williamrae9954 Před 2 měsíci

    Yamaha design goes round in circles, i see an XSR700 and XSR900GP there

  • @amjrpain919
    @amjrpain919 Před 2 měsíci

    Genius and insanity are close relatives...

  • @rat_king-
    @rat_king- Před měsícem

    5v per cylinder is best. The valves begin to shroud each other and block the flow of each other the greater number after this. 3 intake valves and 2 exhaust valves.
    Basicaly the act of pushing the valve into the cylinder causes you to lose more volume so the displaced volume of hte valve also the smaller and more numberous the value the smaller the port to flow gas through. Also the extreme at the other end, is bad, so many tiny valves causes the skin friction drag to increase at a much higher rate than a small series of larger ports.
    5V per cylinder is the best.

  • @chris_sirhc01
    @chris_sirhc01 Před 2 měsíci

    Now machinists and alike are given the option of rotary valves with less loading and higher rpm's.

  • @joejoejoejoejoejoe4391
    @joejoejoejoejoejoe4391 Před 2 měsíci

    The 6 valve head used on a Ducati seemed a much better design, with 2 spark plugs.

  • @yourlocalflacofiero
    @yourlocalflacofiero Před 2 měsíci

    I've seen the thumbnail change three times

  • @jameshatton4211
    @jameshatton4211 Před 2 měsíci +3

    So basically a motorcycle version of the Toyota 4AGE 20valve?

    • @johncunningham4820
      @johncunningham4820 Před 2 měsíci +5

      That is a Yamaha designed Head on that . They design Heads for a Shit-Ton of other people .

    • @jameshatton4211
      @jameshatton4211 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@johncunningham4820 yes I'm aware of the Yamaha Toyota joint ventures. Yamaha are about harmonics and sound....as per the LFA 👌

    • @ChroniclesofKToyoda
      @ChroniclesofKToyoda Před 2 měsíci

      I've got one of each luckily enough

    • @johncunningham4820
      @johncunningham4820 Před 2 měsíci

      @@jameshatton4211 I was just trying to Educate , in the event you Didn't know . Not belittle you .
      Actually , Harmonics yes , but FLOW DYNAMICS is the other thing .
      A Crisp sound is a byproduct of That .
      Also LFA is a V-10 . They ALL sound awesome anyway .

    • @johncunningham4820
      @johncunningham4820 Před 2 měsíci

      @@ChroniclesofKToyoda . One each What ?

  • @lorenzosguaitamatti
    @lorenzosguaitamatti Před 2 měsíci

    Search the supersingle with 6 valves

  • @timbrwolf1121
    @timbrwolf1121 Před 2 měsíci

    Why does the single cylinder test engine look like a rotax 🙃 5 valve head even looks like an aprilia 650 head

  • @Spectrolite1
    @Spectrolite1 Před 2 měsíci

    4:32 What engine is this?

  • @chesspiece81
    @chesspiece81 Před 2 měsíci +1

    You would think the 6 valve would be arranged like the 7 valve with the plug in the middle and indexed towards with intake valve. Or running a twin ground strap plug.

  • @1xARM
    @1xARM Před 2 měsíci

    I love my TRX.

  • @m1stertwo
    @m1stertwo Před 2 měsíci

    and the V-Max

  • @custommodspresentation5338
    @custommodspresentation5338 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Watching your channel from 2013

    • @fidelcatsro6948
      @fidelcatsro6948 Před 2 měsíci

      Welcome time traveller!

    • @custommodspresentation5338
      @custommodspresentation5338 Před 2 měsíci

      @@fidelcatsro6948 oh man when I say your comment it would be like panic attack🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴

    • @fidelcatsro6948
      @fidelcatsro6948 Před 2 měsíci

      @@custommodspresentation5338
      please go back to 1970 and buy a genuine German VW beetle for me for 3000 dollars and bring it back to 2024..

    • @fidelcatsro6948
      @fidelcatsro6948 Před 2 měsíci

      @@custommodspresentation5338
      im from 1896 myself😆

    • @custommodspresentation5338
      @custommodspresentation5338 Před 2 měsíci

      @@fidelcatsro6948 man what can i say I want to jump from forth floor twice😇😇😇😇😇😰

  • @ElsinoreRacer
    @ElsinoreRacer Před 2 měsíci +1

    Yamaha does not use the 5 valve anymore, much less a 7. An overcomplicated and heavy sales gimmick that ran its course.

    • @Dwainpipe21
      @Dwainpipe21 Před 2 měsíci

      Err no not quite , the 5 valve head was better at the time but eventually materials / development caught up and allowed a four valve design to match the 5 valve head .

    • @ElsinoreRacer
      @ElsinoreRacer Před 2 měsíci

      @@Dwainpipe21 Not sure what materials development altered physics, but gas flow through a poppet valve is tied closer to total periphery than area.... until the valves crowd each other and the periphery effects clash. The breathing advantage of a 5-valve was always marginal, if it existed, and the cost (in every meaning) was high. Maybe worth if from the marketing side, but when that petered out, goner.

    • @Dwainpipe21
      @Dwainpipe21 Před 2 měsíci

      @@ElsinoreRacer I read when they went back to 4 valve design it was because 5 valves allow more revs better control of the valves as the valves are lighter ( smaller ) but with modern materials a 4 valve head is just as good .

  • @Creeperboy099
    @Creeperboy099 Před 2 měsíci

    The only other account I can remember of an engine with more than 5 valves is the V12 in Speed Racer’s Mach 5 from what I remember looking its specs up out of curiosity

    • @martymiller4300
      @martymiller4300 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Marvin the Martian’s spaceship had rack and pinion molecules!

  • @ChroniclesofKToyoda
    @ChroniclesofKToyoda Před 2 měsíci

    People forget the much lauded Nissan RB26 "is also" a Yamaha developed motor
    & all this because Toyota engineers branched into Yamaha from what predated even TRD

    • @VisioRacer
      @VisioRacer  Před 2 měsíci +1

      There are many more engines developed by Yamaha

    • @ChroniclesofKToyoda
      @ChroniclesofKToyoda Před 2 měsíci

      @@VisioRacer yup Volvo & Ford are also among those that come to mind, but yeah, Donut Media did a video on how they started from a group of Toyota's Engineers who were responsible for racing & engine development. I'm glad I have a few of their engines including a couple 5 Valvers, wish they'd kept them going

    • @mrfd6182
      @mrfd6182 Před 2 měsíci

      Also some model of porsche i heard..

    • @skylinefever
      @skylinefever Před 2 měsíci

      I did not realize Yamaha was involved in the RB26DETT.

    • @ChroniclesofKToyoda
      @ChroniclesofKToyoda Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@skylinefever Albrecht Goertz of Yamaha is responsible for his working with Nissan, even though the official partnership with Nissan feel thru his designs are still reflected in the L series, RB series & the Nissan Fairlady which all stem from the 2000GT project which originally was meant for Nissan
      Ironically Nissan thought it not financially viable so Goertz took the project to conservative Toyota & we got Japan's first supercar the Toyota 2000GT, but if you look up Nissan 2000GT you will find what resembles a Corvette Stingray front with a Fairlady Z body
      Under it's hood was the R&D that led to the L series which if you know is what evolved to the RB, though the RB is closer to the original Yamaha R&D. The story was supposedly that Nissan didn't need the partnership, but if you look at what came of it Nissan clearly reused the Yamaha derived work
      The difference is, it's Nissan take on Yamaha R&D that was developed for them but doesn't credit, which in Japan is legal, it's how the Yamaha derived Toyota 2ZZ basically has iVTEC before Honda when Honda only had VTEC before Toyota's VVTLi, they both took each other's ideas
      TLDR; reason most don't know Yamaha's designs lead to the RB is because within Japan you can take others ideas so long as you add your own twist or pay royalties a few years. Yamaha for example doesn't get to gatekeep who uses their research(even though in this case it was for Nissan), it's part of why Japan has a leg up on innovation, because they have to constantly innovate something new to stay relevant against their own R&D, it's also why they can't sue Nissan, just like how litigious Nintendo can't go against PalWorld since their IP is both Japan based

  • @elizandrofiori973
    @elizandrofiori973 Před 2 měsíci

    Seus videos devem ser ótimos.mas não entendo nada de inglês. Se você colocar algum tipo de tradução em vários idiomas seria de grande ajuda.e conseguiria mais inscrições.

  • @Iggy900ss
    @Iggy900ss Před 2 měsíci

    I remember reading a really short article on an italian motorcycle magazine back in the 90s! I did not completely understand what that meant back then, as I was just a petrolhead cub, but I remember I thought "damn, that's some crazy engineering!", as I still think it is... It's sad that most of the R&D craziness of the past has been stopped because of cost and pollution reasons, now every new model might be cleaner than the previous one, but is also less exciting...

  • @korrutustabel
    @korrutustabel Před měsícem

    Why no mention of the legendary 1.8t VW engine? Best bang for buck for regular blokes. Those 4age engines are completely pointless when even simple unknown engine costs 1500+eur

  • @philosophyofvalue8506
    @philosophyofvalue8506 Před 2 měsíci

    A professional commentator would have helped the presentation.

  • @AKG58Z
    @AKG58Z Před 2 měsíci

    7 vavles that just too much😮

  • @malekd.ketchup9047
    @malekd.ketchup9047 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Yamaha was tweakin off that shit.

  • @tcmtech7515
    @tcmtech7515 Před 2 měsíci

    Yamaha: "We're worried about the power limits of 2-stroke engines."
    Detroit: LOL... Thou doest worry too much over nothing.
    Wartsila: That table you are having your crisis at is the top of one of my pistons.

  • @MrAlkanet-nt9ic
    @MrAlkanet-nt9ic Před 2 měsíci

    its fruition not frution 4:34

  • @Dr_Reason
    @Dr_Reason Před 2 měsíci

    The 750 yamaha 5 valve had poor combustion chambers when the compression ratio was raised for racing since the chamber became the valve pockets and quench area. As a result it could not compete with a 4 valve except with regular lower octane street gas in both engines.

  • @rpreto72
    @rpreto72 Před 2 měsíci

    NR pistons are not oval, are oblong. I have been correcting this statement since the NR750 was born but people still keep using the same erroneus shape description.
    Now think for a moment and picture an oval shaped piston section... Cartoonish.

    • @VisioRacer
      @VisioRacer  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Give yourself a break. It is oblong, but nobody knows this term.

  • @NukEgo
    @NukEgo Před 2 měsíci

    1:40 searching for the 7th gear. on my bmw r1100s im in 5th and forgot that there is one more or im in 6th and searching the 7th gear. on my ktm 640 that was not a problem.

  • @ruikazane5123
    @ruikazane5123 Před 2 měsíci

    Oh my...the first 5valve engines were somewhat a nightmare once you get valve seat recession, and to a lesser extent, stretched and deformed valves. Until the R1 the cylinder heads had this girdle-like camshaft journal that made work complicated. When better valvetrain metals had been available it made the switch back to 4 valves quite easy, uneven combustion was one of the issues with higher strung 5 valve engines. Can't drive up the compression ratio as high. Still it was very nice at its time!

  • @thebowtieguy777
    @thebowtieguy777 Před 2 měsíci

    i would live to see a "single valve" head with a singular massive valve per cylinder but with a couple of rotary valves above to actually controll the intake and exhausr

    • @nerd1000ify
      @nerd1000ify Před 2 měsíci

      A diesel doesn't even need the rotary valves, you can just not have an exhaust or inlet manifold. Packard made a diesel radial like that, the DR-980.
      There was also a rotary (spinning radial engine, not the dorito type rotary) called the gnome monosoupape that worked a similar way, but being a spark ignition engine it needed a secondary set of inlet ports at the bottom of the cylinder to get fuel in.

  • @buildingracingvideos4714
    @buildingracingvideos4714 Před 2 měsíci

    Too many valves makes it impossible to make straight ports and curves in ports slow the air down

    • @mrfd6182
      @mrfd6182 Před 2 měsíci

      Yeah, everything has optimum number, more or less will useless..

  • @Squilliam-Fancyson
    @Squilliam-Fancyson Před 2 měsíci

    5 valves per cylinder seems to be the perfect level of sophistication. It's power advantages are already questionable compared to 4valves setup and of course fuel consumption increases massively. Still it's cool. 7valves per cylinder is just ridiculous, too complex and too much added friction in the valvetrain which lead too to much parasitic loses.

  • @xfixdonz
    @xfixdonz Před 2 měsíci

    Were VW 5v engines somehow related to yamaha's ip of this technology?

  • @aquilaaudax6033
    @aquilaaudax6033 Před 2 měsíci

    ✋🏼🇦🇺👍🏼

  • @fidelcatsro6948
    @fidelcatsro6948 Před 2 měsíci

    This is all ancient design we need 4stroke engines with simple reed valves

  • @mcfast52
    @mcfast52 Před 2 měsíci

    That 750 Genesis wasn't even running right!

  • @terrypikaart4394
    @terrypikaart4394 Před 2 měsíci

    Yamaha couldn't get it right on the early yzf450s. Those things would puke fast, drop valves and destroy the engine.

    • @leehuntley189
      @leehuntley189 Před 2 měsíci

      Mostly due to not having wrist pin oil squirter!

  • @joejoejoejoejoejoe4391
    @joejoejoejoejoejoe4391 Před 2 měsíci +1

    All these multi valve engines, and a BIG American V8 pushrod engine can rev to 9,000 rpm (11,000 for the Ilmor Indy car), if you scaled down the big V8 you could increase the revs corresponding.

  • @user-hm9gp3do9k
    @user-hm9gp3do9k Před 2 měsíci

    Слабо на русском рассказать?

  • @Pleksilasi
    @Pleksilasi Před 2 měsíci

    Correction : the Volvo B8444S engine is actually built and designed by Yamaha to volvos specs. Volvo had engine bays designed for 4-bangers and 5-pots but needed a more powerful engine for their xc90 and s80 passenger cars for the american market. I guess someone told volvo engineers that americans wont buy their swedish car unless there is a v8 under the hood or something. Anyway, after this went sideways and the americans didn't really like the v8 volvos, Yamaha decided that since they had built such a crazy small v8, they'd just turn the heads upside down into a hot-v configuration, tilt it on it's side, slap a shaft and a propeller into it and call it a day. Thus the yamaha v8 outboards were born.

  • @davidroeder7299
    @davidroeder7299 Před 2 měsíci

    High flow but low velocity

    • @andyharman3022
      @andyharman3022 Před 2 měsíci

      Low velocity is good. It means lower pressure loss through the port.

  • @HariSupriono
    @HariSupriono Před 2 měsíci

    More valves than there are girls available for Dipper to sleep with
    (...is Tambry included as well?)
    Edit: Also that Volvo V8 at the end sounds *amazing*
    Edit 2: Right, about that whole "Dipper Pines' Wives" schtick: I counted 3 girls (Mabel, Wendy, Pacifica) plus Bill Cipher and Stanley Pines, but I omitted those 'cause Bill and Stan are guys and Dipper's a guy too so that makes it gay, not straight. So Yamaha made an engine with more valves than the number of Dipper's potential wives. *And no, Tambry isn't anywhere on that list*
    Edit 3: Even *if* we factor in Billdip and Stan x Dipper, that still amounts to 5 compared to 7. So yeah, more valves than there are girls *and* guys available for Dipper to sleep with

  • @Rajonas007
    @Rajonas007 Před 2 měsíci

    475 views in 21 minutes? You fell off 😂😅

  • @cripticdestiny
    @cripticdestiny Před 2 měsíci +1

    Basically anything over 4 valves is waste of R&D and the increased weight and friction diminishes any and all return

  • @cpuuk
    @cpuuk Před 2 měsíci

    I had the '84 FZ750 for 20K miles- awesome engine.

  • @michaelcordes
    @michaelcordes Před 2 měsíci +3

    Didn't maserati try to make a 6 valve and relised that 5 valves was the most efficient design and since then its been accepted beyond 5 valves has no benefit