This Is Why I DESPISE Modern Gaming
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I just hate the fact people try to say a ps1 2 and 3 should hold up to ps5 quality
Do you ever post a video where you are not bitching or complaining??
Just found out Rockstar GTA Trilogy Definitive Edition is going to add micro transactions in game for the new update patch for Xbox,PS4,PS5,PC, Nintendo switch
Multiple switches and other console aren't to expensive for you yet the very cheap evercade is? What the heck is wrong with you?
I dont know if im going back to play gta Definitive trilogy or it should been called defective trilogy 😂
We shall now refer to regular gaming disks, with no need for extra storage to download, as the new "Plug and Play" era of gaming.
That was the nice thing about cartridges even though they had limited space is slap the thing in everything loads lightning fast works
It’s so sad but that’s the truth
I remember my first console N64 my dad got it for me for Christmas late 90s early 2000 just put the the carts in switch on the power button and bingo!
@UCjGllXLO1wyYwsAMmEwRXpw They have their benefits and their drawbacks the nice thing about carts is fast load times
Still got my Xbox 360! (Good black Kinect one and never Red rings or whatever that’s like)
The PS2, GameCube and original Xbox era will be the absolute best for me.
halo, final fantasy x, metroid prime! golden days
7th gen was the middle of 6th and 8th but it was still good
I would even argue Video Games got better and better up until the late ps3/xbox 360 era
When you remember some of those games are so complicated they are STILL hard to emulate
@@Lolotrixx For real, I feel like by mid 7th gen the industry started to gradually get stagnant and the subsequent generations just felt like more of the same, like extensions of the same console generation.
What bothers me the most is how a lot of things are becoming services. Music, tv, movies, games, it's all becoming subscription based and it's driving me nuts.
I was a teen when the ipod came out and it changed everything. I still have all my music in a digital library from the past 15 years. I dont subscribe to any streaming services, all my music is put on my phones hard storage. No fees, no worries about no service signals. Simple and i love it.
The companies don't want us to own anything. They want us to keep paying for the product every month over and over again.
Everything is subscription based.. they will soon have a subscription to use the toilet at your house or to use the kitchen lol
The only thing thats free is breathing. Unless.... Ah nevermind I wont say it here, I don't want to give them any ideas.
Everything is becoming a service because people don't care to own anything. Because it's "cheaper" to stream.
Remember when DLC wasn't an excuse to release incomplete games?
Get well soon Rich.
I can tolerate an online game being down for a little while but what REALLY GETS ON MY NERVES is when fully offline single player games REQUIRE a huge patch to even boot up at all...
That only happens on Xbox, playstation that never happens.
Or when you buy a game that just came out and you have to download that huge day 1 patch that is 40 to 50gb in size
They did that to the gen4 remfresh
@@SIOYGYG Last time i had to download a patch of that size was for Lords of the Fallen. I remember that i was thinking "Damn that's basically the whole game again as a patch." I know you were hyperbolic but it's really not that common and day one patches are usualy not that big. What really surprised me was that FFVIIR didn't come with a Day 1 Patch, when that game could've really needed one, but FFXV who didn't need one got one just to shoehorn scenes from the movie into it so non-gamers who only watched Kingsglaive didn't feel confused.
@@Equinoksl I also remember that Fallout 76 debacle where the day 1 patch was 45gb
I was literally playing on my PS2 for the first time in a while and it’s such an easy and relaxing way to play without having to worry about updates or being online to play
I want alot of games from that time to come back. But it would be ruined by needed the internet to survive.
@@Bee_Mavrick Get a PS2 or PC with an emulator then? You speak as if they're unobtainable now which they are not.
@@ihateeveryone8161 a quality game that doesnt get stuck on loading screen is a battle.
"literally"
I’m using my PS2 for Kingdom Hearts 2!!!
Miss modern gaming in 90s-2000s, the golden years.
Golden eye years? ;)
Me to
@@Schneb1995 lame
@@Schneb1995 Golden Eyears :p
You know what confuses me? Not the people who prefer digital, but the people who root for physical media to fail. Like wtf kind of mentality is that?
Also, if you have a 4K tv and you don't have physical 4k content, you aren't getting true 4k streaming. Go get a 4k blu ray player or the new gaming systems and put that 4k tv to work.
I never even thought about that tbh but your right it’s dumb
Been building up my physical 4k library, actually started collecting steel books. It’s so much better than streaming especially when Comcast screws up my internet 😂 the steel books look dope on my shelf too. I also don’t have to worry about movies getting censored on streaming platforms.
There is no difference between physical and digital copies anymore. A physical disc just downloads the data to the HDD just like a digital copy does then when you want to play the game the disc is only used to unlock the content on the HDD to play, the game doesn't play from the disc anymore and if the games servers go down or if MS or sony wants to take the license away from you, even though you own the disc, you still won't be able to play it. Even most physical switch games require several gigabytes of data to be downloaded to the switch in order to even play the game. Physical media is not the same as it used to be and it is definitely going the way of the dinosaurs unfortunately.
It's so cheap to manufacture the discs too at this point
There's no replacing physical media but. . . it's really the convenience of not having to wait in line to buy a game. Waiting in line behind someone fumbling through their wallet to find something that they should have had ready from the beginning, but I digress.
The other day I played some Dreamcast and PS2. It was so refreshing to just turn on the system, pop in a game and play.
Those were the days
Playing timesplitters 2 again and I feel the same thing, such a contrast between old and new gen.
New consoles are just gonna be paperweights after a few years. I can play my ps2 20 years after release and my genesis 30 years after release. Will we be able to play on a PS5 in 20 years?
yes, its great launching a 20 year old game and theres no 20 updates you have to install lol
I dont miss those days because i live in those days. Its all i play, old school games. I haven't touched a modern game since twisted metal on the ps3.
Physical games without the need for a download are damn near rare 💀💀💀
What games you playing? All my games can be played after install.
@@user-ov6yp3kq1j …the thing is that…ITS AFTER THE INSTALL😭😭😭
@@user-ov6yp3kq1j Try to play NFS Heat or FFVII 2012 on steam without internet.
@@Sam.AviMusic I was meaning I can disconnect the internet and play from start to finish after the initial install. I was thinking you was talking about day 1 patches. My bad
@@user-ov6yp3kq1j you good 👍🏿
Devs: 'Game is not ready, we need to delay it.
Publishers: No!, we releasing it on this day and we'll fix it later thru patches. Also add this, this and that in the game.
Yeah this is it
And they never learn from this lesson
@@frozenbinarystudio Neither do the gamers who keep buying it, sadly.
100% agree with u. I’m sick and tired of paying and having o deal with broken games
Then don't. You have a choice. Only buy it when it's 'ready.'
@@sinnexit7450 problem with that is many games are still broken 12 months on
Next gen games in 2021 that aren't broken: Deathloop, Ratchet and Clank, Returnal, Spider-Man Miles Morales, Sackboy, RE8, and NBA 2K22. It's your fault you can't find functional games if the only things you play are COD and BF.
@@hotpockets69 That's the issue: Majority of people won't take the time to pick up good single player games
Go retro
It's shameful that the industry has become like this. I understand the need to patch minor things, but when games are being released in an unfinished state, it's disgraceful. Not only does it aggravate consumers, but it shows how little respect developers and, more likely, publishers, have for said consumers. You wouldn't be able to get away with this sort of behaviour in any other industry, so why do gamers put up with it?
Right? What about the people who dont have internet to download games do they just have to play a broken game until they can get acess to internet.
Shameful is an apt description of the existence of this channel and the man behind it.
@@MrCumstein that comment makes it sound like you don't get enough bird love in your life.
Actually back in the 60's if a company did what these game corporations do they would have been charged with consumer fraud for knowingly selling defective merchandise. They would have faced fines and even possible jail time, but today they just get a pass & make billions of dollars while crying poverty!🤑
@@IcePakOG That's a distinct possibility.
Remember when retail games were actually finished with no missing features? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
LOL 😂😂😂😂
I was a '90s kid so I can totally relate with despising today's gaming. It's why I still have all my old game consoles I can just pop a game in and play immediately and not have to wait an hour for a freaking update LOL
Playing old 80s,90s,2000s games on modern PC hardware with a PS5 Controller is the pinnacle.
Having played the PS2 in the early 2000s, I can confirm and agree
@@michaeldunn8972 the ps5 controller is trash. Its the worst controller ever designed, the most uncomfortable by for!
@@Theninjagecko The Joysticks are better The Xbox360 and Xbox1 controllers use cheaper joystick modules inorder to undercut Sony deadzone on ps5 stick is >.025 - .05 the Xbox is .15- .18 < sticks are tight.
Unfortunately, we have spent over a decade being told that 60 dollars for a broken game is okay. It is sad that in any other industry, people would get a refund, get genuinely upset, or people would avoid the company. However, we have been conditioned to not only be okay with receiving an unfinished or broken product but to also preorder a product that 9 times out of 10 is unfinished.
Price increase to $70 for current gen
Microtransactions which add even more cost
Online only to earn items?
Dlc or season pass that has limited shelf life / once its gone, it is gone until it is made accessible by said dev
Day one patch, or several patches down the line that seem to increase in size
@@kadosho02 Yep, 60 dollars for the base game, and 100+ for the rest.
@@100pancake6 which is why I wait til the game releases with the complete edition. You know the funny part about games that get released with all the DLC and added bonuses? They're usually called the *Definitive Edition* or the *Complete Edition* . Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't the base game be the complete Edition? I just find it funny.
when I was a kid back in the early 2000's I got excited just thinking about how videogamesv would be in the future. Now that I am an adult with a lot of responsibilities and limited time, I am glad I was a kid at the time videogames peaked.
I'm 29 and feeling this... I'm slowly not interested in gaming anymore
Same. I'm 28,and slowly dying from depressed video games. Honestly it's not the games it's me knowing that is wasn't like how it used to be when you were a kid. That fact that we grew up being Squidward frm sponge Bob 😆.
Your nuts lol Im 31 and have had them all. Sometimes I'm playing the PS5 and I just say wow this looks incredible. Dualsense with high frame rates on my 65in 4k tv is just amazing. I love my retro games and I do play switch but man this Gen is gonna be special. We are on the cusp of indistinguishable from reality. I think this Matrix Unreal Engine 5 experience will give us a taste but by late Gen we are gonna be playing some special games and people still wont be happy. Everyone has an opinion and with the internet comment sections and blogs there is so much hate. Yes some games have glitches but honestly I've only dealt with minimal issues overall with all my games. Plenty of broken games in the past as well. I had freaking Sega Channel and I remember that as a kid thinking this is the furture and its blown so far past that to the point like Ready Player One I believe will be seen in our lifetime unless the world burns which the world feels pretty unstable overall on the cusp of some world altering event which video games might not matter. Anywho I'm loving every minute of PS5. I for the most part skipped PS4 because I had only an xboxones for the back end of the generation so maybe thats why but man I'm in love lol
@@scottd7222 I also skipped the PS4 (I wasnt gaming at all). I started gaming again during the summer when I got a PS5. Man, so many of those great looking games (MGSV, RDR2, Last of Us 2, etc...) have been such a let down to me. Gaming really picked during the PS2 to PS3 era.
I'm 32 and I just worked a job that required me to be on-call from 8 AM - roughly 10 PM seven days a week, and I'm struggling to understand how people have limited time when there's 24 hours in a day.
We really did grow up in the golden era of video games back in the 2000s and early 2010s
try form the 80's up to now is when I started playing
@Keith Nowak I was born Jan. 8, 74 so I started playing when it hit the 80's at 6 years old
Try 90s/2000s
Um.. no you didnt. The golden age was 90's to mid 2000's.
Yeah no, the best years gaming has ever had were 1996-1999, go check just how many legendary classics were released during those years and how many legendary franchises either began or had their most highly rated entries during those years.
Not denying that the early 00s were still pretty good too but 96-99 was the peak.
I just miss when games were complete on disc with no day one patch or broken online systems or vast glitches. Straight into the action no BS.
This entire video perfectly summarizes my issue with gaming today. I been playing my PS2 lately and staying gaming that way. It’s nice to pop in a game and just play with no issue. I’ve been buying classic PS2 games on eBay and I’ve been having a blast.
If it wasn’t for my Switch, I probably wouldn’t game. Being a gamer during parenthood is tough. I had to stop playing open world RPG’s because playing them would feel like a job.
Feel this hard. Seems like damn near every game now wants to be a 60-100 hour epic adventure, and that doesn’t work when I have maybe 5 hours a week to game, if I push it. Smash Bros and Rocket League are the only games I can just pick up and play.
Cough cough retroarch on series S cough cough...
All you dweebs saying “pop in a game”
Open World RPGs are crap. Ubisoft specially. You dont have fun doing chores. I actually love The Witcher and BOTW because I can pick then up and just wonder and I dont care about quests, I have a good time. But most Open Worlds are just chores. Like Xenoblade 2.
@@HistoryandReviews didn't you like being able to simply pop in a game?
I miss the ps2 era games were fully done and never needed an update just had long loading times
They also had 100x more heart & soul poured into them.
For the past month that’s all I’ve been playing
Even then, the load times weren't that bad.
@@jj5772 exactly
Yall gotta stop with this "games were fully done" Those games had glitches and bugs too in the past. We just dealt with it,
I'm just happy that retro gaming is still a thing. Aside from indie games, there's really not that many new games that I play or really want to play.
gaming today is just boring, these no excitement, the direction of this gaming industry look so sad, when it was a real thing made everyone feel very happy, now today the golden age is gone forever, this gaming industry has no passion, no soul, no light and absolutely nothing to offer us.
@@powerup2660 True. As someone said in a different comment most AAA or mainstream games today are just really extensions of the 7th gen with minor tweaks and improvements but without the soul and drive of that era. Its simply lazy and uninspired and all the graphical fidelity and high textures in the world can't make up for that. Playing 6th gen era games ironically feels more new and refreshing than playing modern games despite being considered outdated by todays standards.
@@gentlesirpancakebottoms6692 fact!
@@powerup2660 i disagree. Games like tails of aris finial fantasy 7 remake, trials of mana just to name a few
@@supersaiyaman11589 what you mentioned are just few games but in 4th/5th/6th generation we used to have a lot of great or good games.
It’s business. The video game industry we grew up with had humble beginnings. Now it’s a huge billion dollar industry. They’re no longer releasing anything to accommodate the consumer it’s all for the investors. The guys at the top only giving a damn about how much they can get away with.
In other words nintendo
The only way things change is If people stop buying and preordering junk, cause another gaming crash and boom, they are gunna try to pick up the pieces to make things better.
@@Saikodan Maybe. It could also go into the other direction and becoming a tiny niche industry that's always on the precipice of dying. Like comics or pen-and-paper RPGs.
"The whole experience is multiplayer."
Which is why I despise modern gaming.
What if it’s co-op?
This is why I pirate. I refuse to waste money on an unattainable thing that can disappear at any moment. This is kinda similar to how paper money is worthless when compared to actual Gold. No physical ownership = won't be paying for it. I have more ownership of a game if I pirate them versus if I buy them at this point. Makes no sense from a logical or a moral perspective to pay for something that I won't be fully owning unless they tell me up front that this is nothing more but a rental or a license to play, which would then have to affect the price to go much lower than 60 or 70 bucks. Renting or owning a license to play a damn video game should never cost 60 or 70 dollars. Now that is immoral.
@Keith Nowak whats MS?
@Keith Nowak Yea, at this point it is immoral to actually waste your own money for something that you don't own.
@@J.Crime123 Microsoft
I've despised modern gaming for exact same reasons for about 8 years now. The choppy nature of games' development and update cycles, the ephemeral and volatile nature of online gaming, the way many companies will sell you half a game for full price then release the other half as DLC. Great games back then were like great movies - they were memorable and you wanted to keep them around so you could experience them again. Games like the ones I described are largely destined to be forgotten once they are replaced by the next iteration in their series.
Dont forget about how micro-transactions kill any incentive to EARN something cool in a game.
The Evercade and Evercade VS are freaking awesome! The simple fact that they have physical cartridges with manuals makes it worth it alone. A great selection of games. Best thing going on with retro gaming currently IMO.
I'll be getting the megacade after I return to the US and after get that I might not be on console much anymore. Games full and none of this crap. Also arcade style so get old 80s and early 90s arcade joy. Will cost me over 6k but so be worth it.
Modern gaming is much like Hollywood and the entertainment industry now, especially Netflix has put out inferior movies and always online requirements. I miss when video games was just buying a cartridge or disk and loading the game without annoying updates and installations!
At least with Netflix there’s a big back catalogue with tons of older movies you can watch. With video games the retro games catalogue is very incomplete through legitimate means, that’s why a lot of people download roms illegally.
If people are complaining about that garbage, oh illegal roms, why not just play offbrand games that aren't illegal? OH NO! Nintendo gonna bash their head into a wall if some Chinese game is gonna be more popular than Mario.
Please. Truth is The Console industry will have to be smart and figure out something that makes sense. Like atleast XBOX Gamepass makes sense.
Then Nintendo and Sony gonna cry like babies while they have a stick in their bums.
@@ccricers Nintendo has a backlog of retro games online, but it’s still not justifiable for their terrible premium online service.
@@thegreatbeavers game companies need to better evolve and make games more efficiently while improving the quality of games!
39 years old, you are Not alone Dude
I almost *HATE* modern gaming and care almost only for older Games since many, many months.
I wish there was still companies that kept older consoles working so people could experience for the first time or relive those great days again.
Nintendo is really the only AAA company that will give you the entire game on day 1, rarely require any updates and if they are there, they are rather small. I like how with the switch it's unlock the system, jump into a game, and that's it.
Just wait until we aren't even allowed to have the game files on our computers. The cloud is far more darker than anyone wants to admit.
That's scary!
Y’all ever notice that no matter how incomplete a game is the micro-transaction system works perfectly?
Being in grade school playing the SNES in its hay day was such a fun time. I miss the simplicity. So much innovation from that era to the PS2/XBOX/GameCube era.
For me, as someone in my late 30’s, I think the golden age of gaming was during the Clinton years lol.
So early 90s
Must resist George Wood reference.
Clinton years had the best of Square, Nintendo, Sega, Capcom and Konami.
@@santanacalderon8556 Clinton years are 1993-2001. So it goes from the SNES and MegaDrive/Genesis all the way to the PS2 and GameCube.
By the same metric, if Hillary won in 2016, we wouldn’t be in this mess right now.
(I’m not actually being serious, please don’t hurt me)
Remember when you used to be able to set up your own LAN parties, setting up a dedicated server directly within the same house on another PC, and everyone would connect to it via TCP/IP and the biggest inconvenience was network cables running around? And when most games with a multiplayer mode came with its own dedicated server software for that game?
That’s just a short period of time for how long I’ve been gaming for.
I don’t think they care about adult gamers. They probably get most of their revenue from children and teenagers. Younger gamers probably don’t even know what they missed.
Makes sense, I wouldn’t doubt it. So many of these gaming channels are filled with kids and younger gamers that take up a good amount of their fan base
Eh, from their point of view younger gamers likely see F2P games as more accessible and cheaper than the traditional model.
Rich: Complains the game awards won’t take a stand against activision
Also Rich: complains he can’t play a activision game
That's what neckbeards that modern gamers are for ya.
Enjoy your $70 rental for two years at best. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
PHYSICAL WILL ALWAYS BETTER.
And this is why refunds should be available for games at any point in time. Not until seven days in advance before release, or 24 hours before hand, if you’ve never played it, if the purchase was an accident, of you’ve played the game for more than an hour, or what ever excuse they can come up with next. If you’re unhappy with the game or service the end user should receive their money back period.
Rich Tomorrow: Why I despise everything. Let's get into it.
Online gaming made companies lazy, even during the early days of xbox 360 and ps3 you could start a game and it worked. It wasn't until later in the generation where companies learned they can release a half baked game and fix it later. As gamers we allow them to do this because we don't vote with out wallets.
Agree 100% 👍
Online gaming is not the cause of this. Even during the 360 Era. Black ops 1 and 2 were super popular online and modern warfare 2 and 3..
@@ghostlegit he means "games as a service" type games which are online games which means online gaming ruined gaming
@@thelastofus2872 no online gaming did not ruin gaming
@@ghostlegit It did and still does to this day, whether you like it or not.
Been on a Metroid kick and dragged out the Wii so I could run some GameCube Metroid Prime. I'm glad that still works!
Rich, I have to agree with you on this one , I truly long for the days of just a loading screen , sure it seemed like a pain in the butt , ( and sometimes it was ) but these updates and the size of some of these updates are too much .PS , I thought I was future proving got a 3tb. ssd. boy was that a joke , between the games and updates that ssd is almost finished .
Yup the cycle never ends I'm term of space
The complete edition is when the game should be finished. I usually wait for them. I don’t play online much just single player campaigns. I would never pre order a unfinished product. Something that might or might not work.
Mmo s used to be my favorite type games back in the early 2000s, but that ended by 2010 ish. I barely ever play online anymore, unless its a co op rpg.
@@chrisd8180 yeah same I played guild wars back then and counterstrike. Got elder scrolls online but not played it much. Not got much time for them these days. Only play coop online with the wife. Have no interest in battle royal games they are mostly copies of each other.
This is why 90% of the time I game on consoles it's on my retro consoles. There's a mom and pop retro gaming shop near me that's thriving, making retro gaming more accessable and affordable, and there needs to be more of them everywhere.
Strongly agree, there needs to be legit stores to fix and restore older consoles too so they don’t go back in the closet broken lol.
@King of The Zinger They don't, unfortunately. People sell them for low(ish) and then the store sells the for a little more for profit (it's basically a local non-shady retro Gamestop)
The 6th and 7th Generation was where gaming peaked. Now all we got now are updates.
yep now all we got get are updates politics and sjw garbage shoved in our games.
@@Astro1554 ikr?! Main reason why I’ve been collecting older games for a good while.
@@damascus6480 I went back to xbox 360 and I'm having more fun playing it then my xbox series x. games now days are just soulless sure there are some good games for this gen but barly in my opinion.
@@Astro1554 I agree, I need to finish my 360 collection, so many good games. I grew up when it was popular so I had a 3 RROD console streak 😂.
@@Astro1554
The Xbox 360 was awesome. You had games like Tales of Vesperia, Blue Dragon, Star Ocean Last Hope, eternal sonata, and so many other good games. When the PS4 and Xbox One first came out I was super excited, boy was I disappointed.
Imagine going to the Cinema , paying 10 bucks to watch a Movie and you can't watch it in that moment because they don't have the projector . You go inside and they tell you you have to wait 7 hours until they get it . Oh and you don't get you'r money back .
The gaming industry has so many loopholes it's crazy .
Or imagine buying a car and 5 years later it stops working because the car company closed or discontinued the car .
This isn't "modern gaming", this is AAA gaming. You should know by now these big corporations are incompetent and don't care about the quality of their product or service so long as it makes a ton of money in the short term. Everyone talks about how much they hate these companies and their business practices yet idiots keep buying from them en masse. Stop it. Boycott them. Buy games from indie studios who actually give a crap about their product. There are plenty to choose from, and they function just like the games of old where you can play them any time you want.
"Downtime for maintenance" is something that is entirely a thing of the past for competent sysadmin teams. I'm a game dev specializing in backend / systems engineering and there exist numerous strategies and tools, even ENTIRELY AUTOMATED SYSTEMS that you can implement here that will prevent you from EVER having downtime again. These games could be running a high-availability, 100% uptime system but it really seems like the only game companies doing this are the ones that make mobile games while the rest of the tech industry took this approach long before it became automated like it is now!
Maybe you should just go fix the whole world smart guy
@@harveyweinstein349 And your point is? Part of my job is literally to create high-availability, 100% uptime systems
@@urk5204 oh look it’s a smarty pants
My question is: are these systems more expensive to run than what gaming companies are running now?
If your answer is yes (even by a few pennies), then this will never get implemented unless they absolutely have to.
If the answer is no, then....honestly I have nothing to say since this is the gaming industry we're talking about.
I work in the same area and I completely agree. However having the time and resources to properly implement and test these systems is a completely different matter and getting everything right in time for launch is extremely ambitious. Maybe for a title like CoD which has been through numerous iterations by this point should have all this stuff ironed out, but for most studios time is money and they'll generally take the quicker and easier option.
The amount of extra hoops to jump through for these more complex games isn't equal to the amount of fun had in game.
I still get more enjoyment out of things I bought in 2011 than anything that's come out from 2014 to now.
Remember when you paid for a game and it was the whole game?
Makes me appreciate all of the old systems I have before the 7th generation. And also all the mini consoles.
My Genesis mini has seen more playtime than my ps4 at this point and I'm not even interested in the ps5
I undestand your point, but this "issue" mostly cover online/multiplayer games. Most singleplayer games you are good to go once you download them, no bullshit in between
Cyberpunk2077 is a good example of a single player game that doesnt need the internet. Its more like the internet need cyberpunk2077
As someone whose gaming is almost entirely offline, I agree. But it sucks for those who have a preference for online gaming, like my 10yo niece and 13yo nephew (they also enjoy single player as well).
You do have occasional updates/patches for single player games. Not to mention paid DLC releasing down the road.
Lol returnal without patches sucks
Single player physical games are definitely heading towards needing patches/ still, such as the Spyro: Reignited Triology, Pokemon Brilliant Diamond/Shiny Pearl, Resident Evil Triple Pack, Balan Wonderworld(This one actually addresses a potential epilepsy issue.), Bioshock Collection, and the list just keeps growing.
Also the DLC you would have to download as mentioned.
Now a days I feel that buying anything new is just ezentially buying an extremely expensive beta, and over the course of a year is now complete and most likely on sale/bargain bin prices.
Anyone who still invests in triple A games and honestly most indies at this point should be able to slap "beta tester" on their resumes if you ask me.
Putting the disc in was not the only inconvenience for me. Alphabetizing shelves of games (or worse, not bothering and not knowing where anything is), dusting stacks/shelves of games, opening up a case only to find the wrong game is in it (or no game at all), stepping on a disc that got left on the floor, losing a game to the disc getting scratched or the cartridge wearing out, putting a disc in only to be forced to download an update, and more.
None of those downsides happen when you’re all-digital.
When you’re all-digital, it’s more likely to “just work”, including updates installing when the console is “off” (when it’s not really off, just in a low power mode).
There are pluses and minuses to physical vs. digital. But I’ve been all-digital since late in the 360-era, and I do not miss the way things used to be when I was buying physical media, not at all.
At 42 years of age now, I began playing games with the NES when I was a little kid and I have own a console from every generation since. Some days I do miss the times of just pop a game in and play. Thank goodness in my experience, so far, any updates for the PS5 have been relatively short and quick but what happens in 2-3 years? Are those updates going to be as quick?
As the Krakken technology evolves the file sizes should get smaller, even with games getting bigger with more assets.
So the QA process is essentially in the hands of the consumer.
I literally depise modern gaming but I'm still satisfied when Act Blizz is crumbling harder than Atari
I miss the good old days of gaming. Just put the game in and it works. I mostly play on my PS2, Gamecube, Wii and all earlier consoles more than I play my PS3, 360, PS4 and Xbox One or Switch.
This isn’t a an, “Okay boomer,” moment. Everything you said is true.
Agreed and I'm someone who uses that phrase a lot.
Things have gone from bad to worse to absolutely insufferable in the last ten years. First it was microtransactions. Then it was the concept of DLC being misused. Now it's games getting delayed 5 times and still coming out as buggy messes not to mention terrible remasters.
Yeah man I can one hundred percent relate to this. I hate installing and waiting hours for a update. One it chews my internet and two games like COD which has insane update file sizes up to 80GB I can't play COD for 3 days.
as a MNO player I understand the Maintenance times. it kicks out all players so devs can fix bugs and other things. honestly this only happened because it's an online game running on servers. this isn't new if you ever played Maplestory, Mabinogi it happens all the time sometimes once a week. back in the early days anyways.
i think that the problem is that even if people wanted to play single player it forces them online which would boot them out as shown . which is dumb because it's possible to play a game and run an update it's would just tell you to restart afterwards.
Something similar that annoyed me recently was when the Resident Evil Village demo could only be played during some specific hours on a specific day. I have a busy life. I couldn't play it during that time. I'd been looking forward to that game for years, but on principle I chose not to buy it.
Remember everyone, when the back of the box only calls for 12kb of drive space, that's a bad thing.
Damn, we've really hit that point in the timeline of first world problems where people are complaining about updates? Some folks might have to give up gaming if updates are annoying.
I’m 28 lol I remember those days on the playstation 2!
I feel u man, I'm 30 and have 4 kids and a full time job so when games get updates or whatever that take forever to download it can be super frustrating
We as gamers have become complacent in getting broken, buggy, overmonotized, online required, multi-player focused mobile games for triple AAA titles that its gotten to the point that games like Battlefield 2042 being trash is just everydays news
I think Rich is just upset that his dad won't hook up his consoles for him anymore. I feel bad for Rich though, since it's tougher for 70+ year old people to learn technology.
Still amazing that back in the 5th gen of gaming, if it was on the cartridge, it was a complete and polished experience in most cases, with revised cartridges to patch certain bugs or censor things (like Zelda OoT). There was a certain level of quality control in shipping out the product that the consumer would usually be able to put out a fair analysis of it on whether it is GOOD or NOT because it stood as a fair representation of the product as a whole. I miss those days, most of us do.
I'm 25 but I'm definitely with you here. It's funny because I have all the money I could want to spend on games now but I only wind up buying a handful a year in the sub $40 camp.
Most of my time is spent on indies and 16 bit stuff. Right now the only I'm interested at all in before the year closes out is clockwork aquario...and that's more or less a decades old game that's just now seeing the light of day. No regrets.
It would be nice if they came out with technology that could write three updates to the disk or cartridge so that they would be future proof
More reasons why I buy indie games or AA games nowadays.
We switched to discs because they held more storage. Discs in 2000 could hold multiple gigs while memory cards were 8mb. Now we have 1TB micro SD cards with 100gb discs. That, coupled with the fact that you can't make a disc spin any faster like you can optimize a board, is why I think gaming should revert back to cartridges like Nintendo did. I know why we won't -- cost, movies and stuff -- but it'd be a lot faster. No installations, all games would plug in like a Series X SSD and play
That's why I play offline games, indie games and emulate. Updating or internet connections aren't an issue for the most games.
I haven't seen anything that absurd since my times playing Star Wars Galaxies in 2006. The servers being down for maintenance. That's insane
Situations like this have driven me to finally sign up for GameFly. I miss renting games from Blockbuster more with each passing year. And with our ownership of the very discs/cartridges we buy or files we download being taken into question, I just don’t see a reason for buying over renting anymore; I feel buyer’s remorse for the majority of games these days rather than the minority in generations past, and I feel GameFly can (at least somewhat) restore that feeling of affordable game library exploration that made me love the N64, GameCube, Wii, and DS so much. I missed out on it with the Wii U and 3DS, but it’s not too late yet with the Switch.
I used Gamefly 10 years ago. They start stealing your credit card after a year of being signed up.
I think we’re right at the cusp of realizing just how bad it will be. Many of us have aging PS3s, Vitas and 360s with so many games on and for them. What’ll happen when they stop working?
Nintendo did the worst thing imaginable and made all our Wii/U Virtual Console games count for nothing completely shutting down the store. As soon as our Wii/Us die some of us are loosing hundreds of dollars of games.
Oh how I miss the good ol sega genesis, game cube, and ps2 days… I had such a great time gaming as a kid.
I’m with you Miss the good old days when you actually get a full game
That's one of the reasons (out of plenty) people still love single player games. Even without Internet connection, and even when an update is still pending, you can still play it.
That, and I don't have to deal with the toxic community.
Some single player games have had online only requirements, EA was notorious for that at one point so just beware some pubs want you connected regardless
@@jacks.cosplay That's not the only thing EA is notorious for. I refuse to play anything that has the EA logo, even if it's free.
It’s sad to say the generations of gaming has shift to more younger people and they are used to this. For those who are used to Disc gaming it is time for them to get used to the new trend. Just like the people who are used to listen music on CD while driving, they have to live the fact that cars these days won’t have a CD players anymore.
I despise the most that it is no longer: pop the disc in and start playing the game. Now it’s: updates, downloads, Etc. Sick of it.
Rich, have you ever thought that it may not be gaming as a whole, but the games you choose to play? You mostly play yearly fps games by the same companies so you are stuck in an echo chamber of thinking that every game has a 200gb update every 3 days, when in reality many games don't even have updates after years
Rich can stream and play his game if he need time to play or is he hiding something like he not a real gamer we all know he dont review tech he is manly a news channel with some gaming news mix in
If you cared to watch through the whole video, he mentioned the GTA definitive edition trilogy. Broken games being released to meet quarters is a problem, period. The solution isn't to stop playing a specific company's games... lmao morons are gonna buy them anyway.
Rich you are fucking amazing here. This is why I love you... half of the time lol
The industry has become all about broken games with bugs and mandatory 50-100 gb updates or installations. They also take years of development with microtransactions.
A good example of the downsides of online services for updates and features is the original Xbox.
a few Xbox games actually did permanently lose features when the servers shut down. You can’t get the extra characters or levels on ToeJam & Earl 3 and some of the Halo 2 multiplayer maps (even for local multiplayer use).
At least with those systems, modded console owners can download unofficial updaters that patch the games. Xbox One on the other hand has not been publicly hacked since it’s release. Stock console owners are stuck not getting to download that content after the servers are gone.
At least with Halo 2, you could buy physical map pack discs that still allow installing the maps offline. ToeJam & Earl 3 did not get that sort of treatment though.
"Games are more complex"
It's Call of Duty.
It hasn't changed in 14 years.
Fucking gold this ^^^ XD
I been dealing with issues like this as well. I agree with you Rich. It's ridiculous.
You make some good points. If that happened to me on my day off from work I'd really be upset.
The game companies like tracking a games play time stats and who plays it and what localities play what type (i am in the belief they even follow what players do with their product ethnically) just a way to get auto stat feedback that is gold.
Preech the choir this has been something I've been saying for years and years and some of my friends just accept it and say modern gaming is much better than the gaming I grew up on because graphics.
Graphic fidelity and higher frame rates do make games better, but buying physical copies of games with afew mbs of data on them seems like such a scam. Imagine games from 80-2000s the way the were so easy to jump in and play, but with modern graphics and frame rates.
Console gaming has become more complicated as time passed, while PC gaming has become more convenient.
I feel like all the awful practices of the industry that started or got more prominent by the 7th generation of consoles only got worse with time until people just got used to them, and by this point they are literally selling us incomplete games that barely even function, and people buy them anyway because these big companies already have enough clout to give themselves the luxury of not putting enough effort or resources into their products. This is one of many reasons why I'm more interested in stuff made by indie developers and AA studios these days.
The PS5 and Series X are the most underwhelming major product launch in years. Decades, maybe. They're an absolute joke. There's no reason for them to exist. No games. No innovation. No stock. Who gives a crap...
The fact that they're in such high demand only shows that people will buy anything, and how powerful 'the fear of missing out' is.
Xbox ain't having that problem, but there's something called "copying the game" on the Playstation after downloading the game or an update.. That's messed up.
I want my man to be at a million subs so bad!
An hour-long update would be a mercy for me.
Preach Rich! I leave my xbox one X offline because I get to play so rarely. If I don't leave my xbox offline, my time is shot with a 1GB update for the OS itself!
The 1st time that happened it ruined a very rare game night with my wife. A few times I had to go online for 1 reason or another. Each time was 1GB update!
Thank goodness I'm a single player kind of guy.