đ„BREAKINGđ„Karen Read: CW does NOT want to Q Jurors re: acquittalsđ„w/ Mark Bederow, Esq.
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 4. 08. 2024
- The Commonwealth has filed Opposition to Defendant's Post-Trial Motion to Dismiss regarding the Jurors who have come forward indicating the jury had reached a unanimous acquittal on Counts 1 & 3, and were only deadlocked with regard to Count 2, and it's a doozy! Attorney Mark Bederow joins to dissect & discuss!
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She acted as if it all was a huge inconvenience for HER. Absolutely disgusting for a judge to act the way she did
Agree. This judge is a disgrace to the bench. Her judgement is too poor to be considered the honorable bev
She kept rushing the defense.
Yes!! It was just a woman's life on the line. How dare everyone who took this serious!! đ Bev is just the worst!! She's a disgusting human being.
Ditto to all the above.
PETITION NEEDED SACK THE JUDGE
This Judge is THE WORST........PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes!! Overtly Biased and Corrupt. Seems as if Bev wanted them to find Karen âguilty!â no matter if Karen was innocent on any count!!
Yes! Alec Baldwin's case just got thrown out because the prosecution withheld evidence..... It's overwhelmingly evident that lollygag and Morrissey and everyone that has been railroading Karen Reed is getting away with b******* and I don't understand đđđđđđ
After watching many trials and having been involved in trials myself ( to the point once being told by the judge I was in contempt of his court - yer made me cry)
No one no judge lawyer police no one has ever made me angry
The bench of baloney has changed that
She takes the cake on that with one of her decisions literally making me furious
Nope. She's worse than that. Her haircut is the worst too. Who wears a damn hair helmet like that in 2024?
Agree
Judge Mary from the 3day Baldwin trial puts Auntie Bev to shame as a judge. Prosecutors screwed up in Baldwin and judge did the right thing.
Seriously! There were so many things the CW didnât turn over to the D. Chloeâs location, for one! Yet Bev didnât care. She rules from emotion, not law.
The ENTIRE jury needs to come forward. Please!
Totally agreeâŠas Melanie has statedâŠKaren Read can be anyone of us.
@@kabbystevens5167 The STATE has worked against Truth from the beginning to protect STATE ACTOR'S that killed a man. This cabal will never let them, and those who helped to cover it up, face Justice and could care less what PERSON becomes their patsy. Wake up folks and never forget what they did to the three Kennedy brother's
@@MissesCakes YES, all jurors please come forward! Do the right thing. You could be in Ms. Reads shoes one dayâŠ
We donât know if any jurors contacted the courthouse.
@@amherstanne1219True, they contacted the defense attorneys. Because if they contacted the courthouse or Lally, they would bury the jurorâs story. Corrupt!!
Bev will deny the motion. She would rather have a defendants Constitutionally protected rights violated than ever admit she screwed up. Sheâs not just a bad judge sheâs also a garbage human.
đŻ BINGO!! đŻ
Same can be said for Lally!!
Hot Shot Jackson screwed up. He had his chance at the end of the trial...now we have hearsay.
đŻ in agreement â€
@@George-cl6lt BS. wont be hearsay if they poll the jurors. prosecution doesn't want that. hmmm.
And she is, as Mark said, perpetually grumpy, casually dismissive and improper!
They remained silent bc the judge talked right up to the point where she said âMistrial, have a nice day.â She didnât even take a breath. So shady!!!!! Grrr.đ
Yeah, I went back & watched it. There was no opportunity for the CW or defense to say anything. It was purposeful. She's so evil.
I watched it in real time and it didnât sit right with me at the time. It felt very rushed.
I did notice she didnât address either set of attorneys. What really stood out was how she didnât come up for a breath as she addressed the jurors and declared a mistrial. It was glaringly obvious she was rushing
I think that they could have said something but they were under the impression that the jury was hung on ALL counts. They should have been polled in private.
Exactly
Yes! As the judge SHE knew the law and procedure, and she did it that way on purpose. This is on her!
I followed this trial as if I was a juror. Did not know anything about this case. I really donât know why this jury was divided. It was obvious the CW did not prove this case beyond any reasonable doubt in ANY of the counts.
Absolutely agree 100%!!!!
I started following it in the middle and as soon as i saw the autopsy photos I thought ok, this guy was attacked by a dog⊠how anyone could look at that picture and think a taillight broke on his arm and scraped it is beyond me. And thatâs a full stop- no proof she hit him.
I saw it in the early days and wasnât interested. I was đŻ Guilty! I had a week off work and started watching the trial because I was bored. Now Iâm frigging OUTRAGED!!! And Bev is as twisted as they come! FBI WHERE ARE YOU! Something needs to give cos this shit show is a mess
America! The land of the free! Fucking stand for malpractice. Stand for your Rights and stand for each other!!! â€ïž đŹđ§!
â@@qmccall0328I've come to realize that. I'm in the forensics field and watch these trials neutral and look at the evidence. My friend is in the legal field and she jokes that jury trials are "vibe based". Our predictions are typically completely opposite and she is more often correct đ
Like most I heard the media fake version. Then later I heard the FKR version. I chuckled about dog bites being such convincing proof of him in the house in a human fight. The McAlberts canât escape the implications of the animal involvement. Defense should prove the dog isnât in Vermont if necessary. Some of the 10% against KR would change sides imo.
this is corruption, not crankiness, not just being uncaring.
100%. And it just so happens that her brother who is a lawyer represented Chris Albert in a hit and run manslaughter case back in â94. And during a correspondence with Aiden Kearney, a.k.a. turtleboy, one of the McCabeâs said he had a direct line to the judge and referred to her as Auntie Bev.
I agree. I am very, very interested to see if Auntie Bev retires in the next few months. That's seemingly the go-to move of apparently corrupt government employees. Retire with their precious pensions before they have a chance to lose them. It's the most aggravating thing to witness and seems to happen a lot. Kinda like Brian Albert. He gets $8k a month according to the Canton city payroll.. a 6 figure yearly income until he kicks the bucket. Frustrating.
As a juror I would be furious, Lally blatantly suggests that they are lying. 9 weeks of torture, and now they are called liars according to Lally?
The 12 of them need to call a press conference on the front steps of the court and tell the world the truth.
â@@Lolabear00press conference is not good. They will likely be dox. Best to recall to court to testify without cameras.
Still respect the jurors privacy.
Iâm sure an attorney will offer to represent them. Thatâs what happened in Murdaugh. It was for opposite purpose, but I think the endgame will be same.
He is such a gross human being. I have to be respectful to Melanie's channel but there's more that I would say about my feelings towards him. Just vile & imo corrupt.
Lally lied 227 times during his closing.
Mark is right. Itâs going to be denied. This judge has shown time and time again that she doesnât care about KRâs rights or doing things properly. She cares about doing things her way. Her silence after the motion was filed is deafening, and Iâm almost positive sheâs going to put on her usual pissed off tone of voice and dismiss the defense condescendingly.
How can the judge break the law
I expect nothing but poor judgments from this faux judge
Iâm really glad they got a different attorney to argue this motion to demonstrate to the public that the disrespect towards the defense is just a weird, petty personal vendetta.
I think the FBI needs to check her phone logs and computers to see who she communicates with !
My gut has always thought sheâs buddies with some of these god awful people!!
Bev had ONE question to ask the jury.
âHave you come to an impasse on each count?â There were several charges!
She didnât ask, she didnât confer with the lawyers. She was way out of her league.
She doesn't seem to want to know the result and rather mistrial the case so cw can do it all over again.
Waste of resources
â âDishonorableâ Judge Bev, made a deal with the DevilâŠâŠ just sayingâŠâŠ
@spacecadet76
đŻ waste of resources!
If I were a citizen of Norfolk County, Iâd be protesting against trying her again! Nobody wants to hear Lally drone on for another 10 weeks, spending the tax payerâs money on trying an innocent woman for a second time. I want justice for Officer John OâKeefe but the DA is looking in the wrong place!
She was TIREDđđđ
She wasnât having anything but a guilt verdict!
FBI needs to investigate this judge. Her actions with the jury seem intentional.
Wherever Mark bederow goes, I go, đ I watch every show he's on specifically because of him ? So keep getting him on ?
HOLY CRAP- It just occurred to me- Lalli is arguing the wrong thing in his motion to dismiss.
By citing Blueford heâs arguing that thereâs legal precedent which says the juryâs possible acquittal is irrelevant (Blueford v Arkansas). But the motion Jackson and Yanetti filed ISNT ARGUING to reinstate the acquittal- they havenât gotten to that point yet! Rather, they are simply moving to hold a HEARING and the jurors brought back to ascertain whether they indeed intended to acquit or not. And if you read Blueford in detail, in that case the court DID IN FACT bring the jurors back to have such a hearing.
So actually, Blueford is confirmation that the judge should GRANT the motion to hold a hearing, bring the jury in, and ask them what they intended to do.
AFTER that hearing, if we find out that the jurors did intend to acquit Karen Read, THEN it might be appropriate to use Blueford as case law to argue that itâs too late or itâs irrelevant or whatever (although it still looks like there are some major differences). But for the moment, the only thing on the table is the motion to hold a hearing, and Blueford only confirms that YES they should hold a hearing.
I hope Jackson and Yanetti realize this and use Lalliâs own argument to shove it up hisâŠ.
THISđ
Very Good
Lally doing prebuttal even in his motions
I hope the defense responds and includes THIS! Great catch. Obviously you have more forethought than Lallygagger.
@@transient_man He has spent basically this whole trial doing prebuttal and playing defense against Jackson, Yannetti, and Little. He was so focused on cutting off their theory he is missing the forest through the trees.
Bev doesnât care about justice
In New Mexico, we just saw a judge with moral and ethical integrity dismissing a case with prejudice because it was the right thing to do.....hard to compare with judge Bev. Where is the moral and ethical integrity?
Why is the commonwealth refusing to uphold the constitution
Because they can
@@michaelcalland801 Just because you can doesnât mean you should
đitâs the state of mass Psychosis đđđvoted 49 recently almost bottom of barrel for commercial business
THE JURY NEEDS TO STAND UP. Come on people you can do it!!!
I really bothers me that that the CW doesnât want to explore this? Itâs an insult to the jurors who raised this concern. The CWâs response is so insensitive to the jurors just so the prosecution can score a point against the defence. Total BS.
@@jtjones4081you have no idea how the law works. youâre commenting on a video thatâs two hours of two highly qualified lawyers discussing the law in regard to this issue.
this is an unanswered legal question because the judge didnât bother to ask the jury if they came to a verdict on any of the charges enough.
no judge in this country has made a mistake so obviously preventable and now neither side can cite a case with the same fact pattern as this one to give them an understanding of what to do.
Great point! The jurors and Karen Read. The law is literally based on this situation, to find TRUTH AND JUSTICE. it's infuriating.
Thanks to Proctor's testimony whenever I see someone use the abbreviation "CW" I immediately think 'C- word Wackjobs'...
You think the state wants fairness and justice... no, they want convictions
â@@auntijen3781đ
Who's Judge Bev accountable to, besides seeing that a defendant gets a fair trial. Cause she's failing!
Sheâs accountable to no one.
The DA.. Morrissey..who wants Karen read behind barsâ@@michaelcalland801
The Governor
her behaviour attitude and most decisions were biased against Karen. No regard to justice.
â they should appeal to the Governor thenđ€·ââïžđŻ
The judge was so lazy. Remember when she said âI didnât read all of it, I was tiredâ
You know what the most amazing thing about the KR trial has been? The discovery of Mr Bederow. He's box office gold. đ
Auntie BEV HAS AN AGENDA!!!!!!!! đ©đ©đ©đ©đ©đ©đ©đ©đ©
Auntie Bev is involved in the cover up ! Period full stop
Its so obvious. Start bringing it to light.
Yep and it is to protect the Alberts and the McCabe as she is a family friend. Her brother represented Chris Albert when he killed someone in a hit and run manslaughter case in 1994. Also one of the McCabe called her âAuntie Bevâ and said he had a direct line to her in a correspondence with turtleboy.
Justice for Karen and John
I hope the jurors speak out, they don't have to give their name or show their face. The news will not show who you are if you don't want it to be known. Please, this needs to be righted đ.
Why canât the CW just say, âoh, we had no idea that the jury was confused about this. We need to do something about it.â Itâs just ridiculous.
Cuz they're corrupt.
Never shouldn't been brought to trial to begin with
I believe because they set things up intentionally to be confusing for the jury. Including the judges instructions that were hard to follow and the fact she would not allow the instructions to go back with the jury so they could refer to them.
Calling this a hearsay issue is calling the jury liars, or even Karenâs attorneys liars.
Lally salad all this time. Bev is underhanded, and has not been trustworthy the entire trial. Should have recused herself.
@@stepheningves4713totally agree with your comment
EVERY juror, this exact scenario can happen to YOU in Massachusetts!!
This is INSANE!!!
Imagine all the people they have already done this to.
Right, I wish everybody would understand that. I was watching another show like this and an FBI agent said I would rather let a guilty person back on the streets than an innocent person in jail. And I will forever feel that way.
Imagine being the next defendant the day after the mistrial. The cops, the DA, the judge are all doing the same crap, the jury is just as dumb, your lawyer is 1/100th the cost, and no one gives a crap. Lol
Bev herded the jury to get a conviction anywhere, and when she realized she wasn't going to get it, she called a mistrial and rushed the jury out. Could have sworn the witch trials ended centuries ago but it seems Bev wants to revive them again. I've given up that the FBI is going to step in and stop this train wreck...
There's still time for that to happen. đ
The FBI is still doing an active investigation.
But who is gonna hold bev accountable?
Jackson intimidates her!!! Grow up Auntie Bev!
Shame on you Commonwealth
Jurors! We need you ALL to speak out!!
She did NOT have adequate time to raise an objection!!! Auntie Bev saw to it that there were no objections raised before she sent the jury out. The blatant liesđĄđ€Ź Iâd be so embarrassed if I were that prosecutor or the judge but they have no scruples. Abolish qualified immunity!!! Everyone should be held accountable for their decisions!!
I would LOVE to know if any of the jurors said anything to Bev or if any called the prosecutors!
I think they raised it pretty dang quickly when they found out. How can they raise something until they donât know about it? It was a day after they found out!
I think they told her in chambers and she'll deny that, but the jury thought she would go make this right and when she didn't the next day they started coming forward but those that have have to make the other 8 come forward now and just keep the pressure on!!! Hopefully they now know any all the corruption from auntie Bev on down and will step up and speak out. They should go to the steps of the courthouse call the press and make the announcement of what their decision was!!!
@@gagecarlsen3872 the prosecution was saying that KRâs defense should have said something before the jury was sent away and I was saying that they didnât have enough time. Bev declared a mistrial and it was over! KRâs attorneys absolutely raised it as soon as it came to their attention, youâre right!
EXACTLY!! It was over in less than 5 mins. She read the note, declared a mistral & dismissed the jurors before anyone knew wth was going on!! I had to go back& watch it three times
Good ideaâ@@Lolabear00
Intially, the judge told them "not to fill out the verdict slip until they came to a unanamois decision on the chargeS" I rewatched the video of the trial. Clearly, the jury or the appointed Lead Juror did not fill out the verdict slip due to not unanamois on count 2. Not to mention Count 2 issues not having not guilty was brought to the attention of the courts. Obviuosly Count 2 was written poorly at the least. The judge should have confirmed they not unanamois on all counts, she is the gatekeeper of the trial. Shame on this judge and this CW, they clearly do not respect the law or the jurors.
@@lboitano67 I thought exactly the same thing! She was confusing. The forms were confusing. And of course the defense wouldnât object or ask more questions-they had no clue about what happened in the jury room. As far as they knew, hung jury was hung.
I live in a small town at the very northern point in NJ. Today I saw several ladies with shirts that say Free Karen on the front and a Turtle đą on the back Iv never seen these women but those shirts started an hr long conversation and a lunch date itâs a small world and EVERYONE is watching
If Karen has to retried and found innocent she needs to sue the whole CW and company! Unbelievable!
She can't. That's not how it works, all of them have qualified immunity
This judge Bev knew exactly what she was doing hearing it up. Sheâs no good. Sheâs corrupt as the rest of them. Itâs her fault. Sheâs the one in control of the courtroom. She knows the law.
Absolutely positively unequivocally I agree.....â â â â â â Auntie Bev rushed them right out the door đȘ deliberately
@@Whattupp-b7b She does know most of the law. She sure has shown some incompetence and bias! Should have definitely recused herself! Sheâs in bed with all these criminals.
Thatâs exactly what my dad said, and he didnât follow the case or understand all the details. He said, âthat judge knew exactly what she was doing â at the end. đĄ
The Judge in this case set the precedent that when notes come from the jury, she would read them to counsel without jury present and hear from the lawyers and than make her decision... she did this each time before... Than went rogue and chose a mistrial without hearing from anyone. Now, in hindsight her chosen path of procedure squashed KR 's constitutional rights! ALL charges should be found NG... she did NOT hit him with the car! Sanctions should be brought against this Judge.
Love Melanie & mark
Thank you for explaining this bs from commonwealth
I couldnât bring myself to read BS! So sick of this judge & commonwealth. The world saw today what happen in Alec Baldwin case dismissed! We need that judge in Norfolk she is an honorable judge!
They really want to double down on the corruption I for one want to see if all the witnesses can keep their story straight for a second time đđ
I donât get why they donât let this go. This is blowing up in their face. Thereâs shade on this judge already and this is only going to increase scrutiny. And IMO theyâre hiding something.
How? Thereâs no downside. No risk of losing an election, itâs a 1 party state. 1% of the population is paying attention and 30% of those vote.
When you listen Bev giving jury instruction, she specifically said that after jury finish deliberation, they will be called to the courtroom and the foreman will read the verdict. They were never given that chance, they were immediately excused and the mistrial was declared by Bev.
The hand picked foreman who is a former cop was selected by this judge with her speaking so highly about the note. I have a feeling thereâs more to the story with why she picked that guy to be the foreman.
Exactly!
It's ANOTHER cover-up, by the court this time
Iâd dig enough Iâd find corruption on Aunt Bev
I wish!
You don't have to dig far
Her brother is an attorney and represented Chris Albert after he was involved in a hit-and-run manslaughter case in 1994. Yeah, she refused to recuse herself. Also one of the McCabes said in a correspondence with turtleboy that they have a direct line to the judge and in that correspondence referred to her as âAuntie Bevâ.
@@stepheningves4713 yes I know
And she looks like Morrissey enough to be his twin??? FBI is listening to EVERYTHING (DoJ & state attorney briefed!) Patience folks!
It comes down to a miscommunication with the jury not understanding Bev's horrible instructions, which is not their fault. The defense assumed they were hung on all charges & so did the C.W. so C.W. can't blame Karen's lawyers.
Bingo !
Look at what happened yesterday with Alex Baldwin...crazy things happen and I hope the defense has something up their sleeve for the 22nd
The judge in Baldwin was having none of the fuckery whereas Bev seems down for it đđĄ
So on point! đ
The jury was probably scared that they would get yelled at by Bev on national tv, by saying they were agreed on 1 and 3.
Can one image if ONE juror while being ushered out of courtroom statedâŠâbut Judge what about the charges we did agree upon??â
At one point Judge Auntie Bev told the jurors not to dicuss with anyone what she said to them.
We need the feds to bring charges to the real / obvious culprits.
This is from the Kim Jung-un playbook, direct from North Korea!
Please donât insult Kim Jung-un
The argument isnât that the jury needed more time to deliberate or should have been sent back out. The argument is that the jury had two verdicts, didnât know how to communicate them to the court, and werenât fricking asked because Bev, true to form, had already made up her mind about something and didnât want to know if the lawyers had anything to say about it.
They're buying time for the culprits
You've got to wonder about Judge đ©Cannone's other trials, and how many of their outcomes were determined -- not by the facts and the law, but ultimately by her temperament and lack of composure.
edited to add:đ©
or corruption.
@@BondJames-vz5wk -- or corruption -- yes.
If I was juror Iâd be mad. CW accusing that I was lying and judge applying that my work means nothing for her
After this slap in the face response, do you think the jurors who voted guilty on count two will finally get it that justice and fairness is not an interest of the CW? That this case has been bull from the jump? We all know Bev is going to side w/CW here. When she does I donât see how more people wonât see her bias against the defense. This is getting frustrating.
My husband is on standby to fly up there with me for the protests. And itâs beyond frustrating.
What are the charges they deadlocked on?
Charge 2. But what is it again?
@@Dewey32I fly for free. Maybe Iâll fly up for a day! Just donât have the money for cars and hotels! Ha
@@teresawarner689 2 is the manslaughter charge. It can still carry up to 25 years in prison. If Bev does nothing I bet jurors will give damning public interviews and hopefully the FBI will interview them as well. The McAkberts knew about the acquittal on count 1 and the split on count 2 prior to the end of deliberations. MSP is in charge of the jury. Hopefully phones are tapped. I wouldnât doubt it after finding out the FBI tapped Morriseyâs phone.
@@Dewey32 that is so fantastic to hear. I wish I could go. Thank you for doing that because itâs desperately needed. God bless you. đđ„°đ
I think Bev will have to entertain this jury and their decision. Not bc she wants to, but just like she reached out to people above her once before on when she changed the form to the way the defense requested. It's obvious Bev changed the form but never told the jurors they were required to mark off boxes. She wasn't expecting to have the jurors talk about her not giving this instruction that she is going to be forced to entertain the jurors' decisions on each case. Bev only does things for her selfish mind or her friends within the system until she is uncovered.
What an absolute disgrace the judge and the prosecution lally and the fat controller are. I feel so sad for the people who are being persecuted by these corrupt court officials. I think every person who has been charged and convicted by this rabble should have their cases investigated. This town stinks to high heaven
I thought the Commonwealth of Kentucky was bad...but Massachusetts puts the icing on the đ°
How can people be so evil?
Bev can never be in the wrong even when she is.
I was surprised and disappointed by the judges behaviour, I have not seen the likes of it before. Seriously unprofessional and blatantly unfair, so many times I was left open mouthed
Massachusetts Criminal Procedure Rule 27: Verdict Subdivision B - This rule also provides that the court may declare a mistrial in cases where the jury is unable to reach a verdict. However, it must first receive and record the verdicts which the jury can agree upon. See ABA Standards Relating to Trial by Jury §§ 5.4-.5 (Approved Draft, 1968); Rules of Criminal Procedure (U.L.A.), supra, Rule 541.
Karen Read has got screwed every step of the way! Infuriating!
It's unbelievable đ
Can the Defense go to the State Supreme Court to overrule the judges biased response.
Mark: they didn't check NG on 1 and 3 because the final jury instruction told them not to fill out any verdict slips until they had decisions on all 3 counts. Bev totally messed this up by not asking if they were hung on all 3 or just some of them. Travesty is this isnât given full review. Hopefully Bev will set oral argument on the motion and more jurors will come out before the hearing.
Canât believe the CW is this arrogant. How can they ignore the law and the jurors? This is getting more ridiculous by the day. The 22nd is going to be crazy.
This is making me sick seriously
This is 15 pages of F U to jury.
Exactly. It's like saying, we don't care about the jurors' verdicts.
As I sit here with my crochet hook, working on the blanket, I am a palled at the very idea that Karen read may very well end up serving time for a crime she has been acquitted of. I canât believe what I am hearing. Not only that, But I recognize that this kind of thing could happen to any one of us.}] The whole thing has been a nightmare. As a former paramedic, and first responder, I nearly fell off my comfy couch when I saw those specs of blood nestle into the same red solo cups that I keep in my very own kitchen. Even a casual watcher of crime shows knows better than this. The whole thing never shouldâve happened.
Karen needs to sue if they bring to trial and she is found not guilty again on charge one and 3!!
Karen needs to sue regardless of anything else that happens. Her rights were violated and not just at trial. We just need FBI Agent Levy to hurry up.
Judge đ©Bev can't handle it. Anything that doesn't go exactly the way she envisioned throws her into an upside-down tizzy of a mess, and all she can do by way of response is lash out. Always needs extra time to process and recompose herself, if she's self-aware enough in the moment to take a moment to cool down. So unskilled. So unprofessional.
You've got to wonder about her other trials, and how many of their outcomes were determined, not by the facts and the law, but ultimately by her temperament and lack of composure.
edited to add:đ©
MA gave too much discretion to judge and she had been getting away for however long she get... also bet she never get a case this big, complicated and high profile. But her ego can't let her admit she's nervous.
@@dpoopie Maybe. Or maybe it's just that the judge's mom and the D.A.s wife were years-long co-workers.
Great comment!
I think Bev is going to blow this off.
I suspect worse things might happen to her if she allows the motion. The judge does not seem too concerned about justice which is strange (understatement).
This is beyond disgusting. I don't want to be too harsh as I am from the UK and our justice systems work differently but I am beyond embarassed by the CW, the judge and all the law enforcement involved, and I am also sad for the victims family- they deserve a competent and fair system. Whether Karen is guilty or not.. as a juror on this case..I would move state because the hell am I paying taxes for that shit show.
My grandfather was a bailiff for 20 years for his retirement career in another state. Now he was in a place thatâs been known for corruption and had some bad things happen. One thing I know is bailiffs answer a lot of questions. My guess is a bailiff knew theyâd reached a verdict on two of the charges and were deadlocked on the other and told the judge and possibly Lally. My grandfather was the best man I ever knew. He was honest to a fault. But I found a lot of what he said happened in court happened/happens in most courts across the country. Someone knew. Hopefully there will be someone who works in courthouse who isnât beholden to Bev or Morrissey who will come forward.
The smart thing would be for Morrissey to just dismiss the whole thing. But I donât think he has the decency to do that.
The real problem with this case is the DAâs office has made this more about convicting Karen Read than true justice for John OâKeefe. They are making it too obvious thereâs bias. Lally repeated what was in Jen McCabeâs burn book in his closing.
We are outraged!
Judge Aunty Beverage does not embody our idea of a partial or fair judge ! What a discrace in Mass
Did the rest of the jury see the foreman write the note? Wss it read to them before it was given to the judge? I doubt so.
I wish Judge Bev would be like the judge in Alex B trial.
I second this!
There needs to be a huge investigation into the judge.
All her little "doing things her way " are going to get her.
Brian/Colin Albert should never have been allowed in that courtroom on the last day. That was obvious intimidation.
I agree! Paul Okeefe solidified this in his interview. I forget if he said they invited them or if they asked if the Okeefes minded. Either way it was intentional. The jury even came out later and said they felt intimidating. In the motion to dismiss the juror said Brian Higgins intimidating them. They meant Brian Albert.
God I love Bederowâs analysis! So thorough & explains things so eloquently-could listen to him all day! â€ïžâ€ïž
Disgusting. The Attorney General or Governor needs to step in and say enough is enough - stop this lynching trial. Wow. I watched a real Judge today in the Alec Baldwin case - she was amazing, fair, and unbiased - and KNOWLEDGABLE. And now back to this ridiculous mess. Wow.
I felt the same way about Judge Marlowe Sommer. She was a breath of fresh air in comparison to Auntie Bev!
@@y2ksurvivor - What a difference. The Judge in the AB case, whether anyone likes him or not, was following what the Constitution calls for, something that Massachusetts has no concept about - obviously.
Oh yeah thank god thereâs an honest and totally legit judge that served proper justice and honored the rights of a member of the upper elite of the imperial ruling party. Faith RESTORED.
Another great comment!
Pre trail motion hearings were waaaay worse on the defense than the bias she showed the world. Thank God itâs all there on CZcams to go back and watch forever.
You guys are owed a HUGE thank you from all of us! Thanks for taking your time, unpaid, to explain in detail, every last thing having to do with this case. THANK YOU! â€ïž
I wouldn't say unpaid.... This content creators get plenty of money through their followers...
Saying that the Defense was ready for a mistral and got it is like saying someone confessed to a murder even though all the evidence proves they didn't.
Who the cares what the Defense wanted if the JURORS actually found her not guilty on those charges?
It constantly chaps my ass how our system will throw you into a meet grinder because "that's how we've always done it" if it means the system MIGHT have an issue functioning while it sorts out it's bullshit.
It's like a perpetual motion machine that CANNOT be allowed to stop, even if it how it's running is detrimental to those it's designed to serve.
Jurors may have concerns about retaliation from the prosecutor and the judge if they all live in the same district.
I didnât see any proof that KR dropped off JO. They said black SUV not a Lexus
This is like a slap in the face for the jurors, who literally did what they were told and did it well.
âJust look the other wayâ is EXACTLY what Judge Cannone (&CW) is doing right now.
Like, bye jurors, we donât need ya now! đđŒ
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If Bev sides with the prosecution (like usual đ) with this one then she needs to be recused from the case and the commonwealth should bring in a different judge like they did for the Murdaugh hearing. The fact that the CW doesnât even want to look for the truth is both terrifying and maddening. These are the people who are supposed to stand for truth and justice?! Additionally, itâs mind boggling when you do just a little digging and see how incestuous all of these relationships are. How can these people even claim to be unbiased with a straight face?
This is clearly falling on the shoulders of the judge, she was derelict in her duties, and as a result, this womanâs life is going to be altered because of the judges mistakes! What a frightening concept, are we still in the United States of America?
I hope Karen goes to the higher courts on that nasty Judge
Isnât that double jeopardy to try her on the items she was found acquitted on?
I'm truly confused, isn't the prosecutor supposed to find the truth to ensure justice? This is bizarre to me...
Totally bizzare!
This court case was so so bad
PROSECUTORS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SEEKING THE TRUTH. NOT POWER GAMESâŠïžâ ïžâ€ïžâŁïž
So true!
I think (well, one of the problems) is poor system design, - bear with me! Everyone should be working hard to design a system where the self interests of the police, the defence attorneys, the prosecutors and the judge etc. are best served when the innocent are found innocent and the guilty are found guilty. Unfortunately, for example, some prosecutors will advance their careers by winning cases where people they know to be innocent are found guilty. There are many people of integrity but they are struggling within "the system".
Can you imagine the taxes that the district is going to suffer downstream to let that sh!tshow go on a second time? If it were in my district I'd start a class-action suit for admin mismanagement. The DA has lost his marbles.
the CW clearly isn't interested in the truth with this case. It was clear before the trial, clear during the trial, and clear after the trial.
Turtle boy exposed the truth very early on and Bev tossed him out & mandated he wasnât allowed to speak on this. Another violation of his constitutional rights.
Jennifer mccabe LURED john okeefe to number 34 on the orders of brian, who then texted Higgins to get his ass there RAPIDLY?
Judge in Alex Baldwin case threw out charges with prejudice. Due to evidentuary issues. Great judge. btw I am not a baldwkn fan. i also believe he was negligent.
Totally agree!
Iâm far from being a lawyer but even I understand this, after your kind & thorough explanation of course. As you said, Melanie, every 6 year old knows about double jeopardy.