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F-22 Raptor VS Nine North Korean MIG-29's BVR Two Morons! F-35 running SEAD against Russian SAM site's while F-22 runs air-air security against Two Patrolling SU-35's and Two Scrambled MIG-31's
Please fly The Rafale against The Typhoon Please fly The MIG-28/F-5 against The MIG-29 guns only Dogfight! Differential Thrust Russian Top Gun! Like the idea of Older Fictional VS Newer Real! Both MIG's flying black paint red star skins!🙏
@@PFCAhammed Didn't believe this so I had to go look it up. The B-17's wingspan is about double the Flanker's, but they're almost exactly the same length, height and the Flanker is actually about 2T heavier both empty and gross. That's 50% higher empty weight than an F-15 and easily double the F-16. Definitely didn't realise how quite how huge the Flanker is
gs just hit 300k subs a few months ago and now gs is about to hit 400k, the channel is growing fast! And how did an f16 maneuver kill a su35 in a rolling scissor?
The small size of the Viper gives it the edge in a dogfight. Given how low he was in the final round, I had a feeling a maneuver kill was coming and sure enough it arrived. Another day requesting F-14 Vs. Eurofighter Typhoon BVR fight. Meteor Vs. Phoenix.
Viper's small size was something Boyd really had to fight hard for. The USAF was in love with BIG, and Boyd knew that was going to be a problem for a dog-fighter.
GS, I have an idea for a new video series for you, it's a double point of view were you first show your perspective of the dog fight and then you show (as in this case Longshot) the opponents perspective of the dog fight where your viewers can see and hear there comintary and observations of the dog fight
I would think the F-15C would be closer to an SU-27/33/35, and the Mig-29 would be closer to an F-16/F/A-18? But I'm sure you've already had those combos.
Was the flanker using tvc? its supposed to be able to move a lot like the felon and the raptor in theory with tvc that forces it to move in the direction the nozzles face opposite of
Not useful in a guns only fight where energy management is the key. You don’t want to use these super manoeuvrable “features” in a guns only fight that will leave you slow and an easy kill in a guns only fight.
You got replies that are correct but missing context that makes them not ridiculous. TVC can win 1-circle slow/close gunfights in seconds, and it can win missile fights in seconds. It's no good in a guns-only 2-circle fast/far fight. Pointing the nose does nothing but bleed your energy if the bandit's a mile away at the time.
The F16 deserves the attention that the F15 has received. They need to update that plane big. I would like to see them experiment with a vectoring nozzle on it.
Love your content man, I love how you aren't overly enthused either like other CZcamsrs, almost calming, yet menacing in your ability to shot down these aircraft. bravo.
Love the F16 just giving you a helpful lil warning - just in case you hadn't realised you were lacking a wing, on fire and doing an impression of swiss cheese
I saw a trick once where a pilot in WW2 in order to keep from overshooting a slower aircraft put his landing gear down to create drag and slow the plane down....
It would be an interesting test for how accurate DCS is. During Red Flag the F-35 dominated the F-22 in bvr (according to public statements so who knows if that is true)
Would love to see some rounds of dogfights where both planes have one or two fox 2s in total that can be used in any of the 5 rounds. With that you‘ll try to do the gun fight but have to be careful as you could get shot down by the Fox 2 as well
Please make A gunfight video for Su-30 MKI vs F-16. I think that is something you have not done so far. It would be interesting to see, as these two aircrafts have been fielded by opposing nations (India and Pakistan) and are highly like to fight each other in event of an aerial conflict.
Interesting comment on the change in design focus between the 1970s and 1990s, going from a pure gun-fighter to a dominant Fox-2 fighter. Boyd was incensed that the USAF had pinned all their performance on missiles with the F4. The USAF brass briefed the Fighter Mafia that the missile would do the turning, not the fighter, thank you very much. Boyd told them where to shove it, citing the F4 in Vietnam. As time rolled by though, missiles finally achieved the performance the F4 had assumed, and the Viper would have been in trouble as a platform, except the same speed, acceleration and miserly energy bleed when turning at high Gs also made the Viper an astoundingly good Fox-3 platform. Fast forwarding even further to today, with the AIM-9X or Python and helmet mounted cueing, the Flanker still has the advantage in Fox-2, but not by much. If they want to erase it entirely all they have to do is put a couple of 2mi range Fox-2s on the Viper's strakes and point them backwards, queing with the HUD while looking backwards, although most Fox-2s today can easily get tone head-on from frontal skin friction heat.
What could be interesting is seeing you and some others do some old WW2 tactics, such as the thach weave, etc. Would take a bit of effort on your part lol
3:42 Love the little Mortal Kombat touches but I think it would be cute to mix it up pilot kills with the occasional "Boom, Headshot" sound. Also someone needs to clip GS saying "ooya" at 10:46 please and thank you.
Indeed it is, with AK tail markings which is the 18th Aggressor squadron out of Eielson AFB Alaska, I work with the 18th all the time, love the Aggressors
Su-30, Su-33, Su-35 are all ,,modern" variants of Su-27. Su-27 is a one-seater air superiority,Su 30 is a two seater multirole, Su-33 is a one-seater carrier based, Su-35 is a TVC one-seater multirole fighter with the lowest RCS of this four and the most modern one Depending on variants, the Su-27 and Su-33 could have two-seater cockpits and variants of Su-30 have acces to TVC Su-33 and variants of Su-30 have canards
DCS needs a duel setting that places the planes on parallel, straight paths until they pass each other, and only then release the stick to players. Lots of these engagements the players start turning way before the merge.
Yes….this is called a lead turn and it’s 100% part of a dogfight it’s called the pre merge set up and to remove it makes the dogfight unrealistic and removes major advantages to the more skilled pilot who lead turns correctly or establishes turning room on his opponent, vice versa the other guy can deny turning room, you see the dogfight doesn’t start when the aircraft cross….it starts quite a few miles before that.
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F-22 Raptor VS Nine North Korean MIG-29's BVR
Two Morons! F-35 running SEAD against Russian SAM site's while F-22 runs air-air security against Two Patrolling SU-35's and Two Scrambled MIG-31's
Please fly The Rafale against The Typhoon
Please fly The MIG-28/F-5 against The MIG-29 guns only Dogfight! Differential Thrust Russian Top Gun! Like the idea of Older Fictional VS Newer Real! Both MIG's flying black paint red star skins!🙏
F22 vs f35 BVR
Rafale vs Eurofighter typhoon BVR
F22 vs biplane in vr
@@Anarchy_420 Mig 29 vs Mig 29 or F15 vs F15 differential thrust dogfight
Day #2 of reminding GS how much of a hottie he is
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That maneuver kill was epic.
When they lost energy trying to convert to the vertical it was over
What time stamp plz
It’s too easy to forget just how big the flanker is. Nice fights. On to 400k
Regular 4th gens are already big themselves, but flankers are absolute behemoths
@@jakes.4147 10 hard points on that thing. It's a heavy fighter.
@@jakes.4147 nah
F16, eurofighter, rafale, f18 etc are small
Just the f15 is big
it's huge. found out the other day it's the same size as a B-17 flying fortress, hard as that is to believe
@@PFCAhammed Didn't believe this so I had to go look it up. The B-17's wingspan is about double the Flanker's, but they're almost exactly the same length, height and the Flanker is actually about 2T heavier both empty and gross. That's 50% higher empty weight than an F-15 and easily double the F-16. Definitely didn't realise how quite how huge the Flanker is
You know that's a scary feeling when you're fighting a Flanker and the thought of "where did he go?" goes through your mind. 🤣
My wife heard you say “I’m gonna try and bring him in closer” and without skipping a beat she says “YOURE GONNA DO WHAT?!” 😂😂
I think the dude knows....he did put a ring in her ;p
you're a lucky man. keep her happy brother.
Def a keeper!
@@ISAFSoldier hope put it ON her, I really do ;)
Buy her a Merlin helmet, if you haven't already!
I'd love to see this fight again with fox-2s. Just to see how much of an edge that gives the Flanker.
Amen
From 15:20 on that was the craziest dogfight maneuvering I've ever seen, on both sides!
gs just hit 300k subs a few months ago and now gs is about to hit 400k, the channel is growing fast! And how did an f16 maneuver kill a su35 in a rolling scissor?
Thanks to the viewers who come and watch and comment the algorithm loves that stuff
In that last fight, I found myself yelling at the monitor, "He's above you!" 🤣
That last fight is one of your best, it should make the highlight reel. That was masterful.
Such a majestic first kill, the soft music, the slow lineup onto the flanker then boom, mortal Kombat noises. Lol, great stuff man.
Sometimes I forget how absolutely massive that flanker is. The f-15 isn’t small for that matter either lol
Only GS would end an opponent’s life to sad music with “FATALITY” inserted 😂
that replay really put into perspective the difference in size between the F16 and Su-35.
The glee with which you say,
"That's a dead pilot." 🤣
The small size of the Viper gives it the edge in a dogfight.
Given how low he was in the final round, I had a feeling a maneuver kill was coming and sure enough it arrived.
Another day requesting F-14 Vs. Eurofighter Typhoon BVR fight. Meteor Vs. Phoenix.
Viper's small size was something Boyd really had to fight hard for. The USAF was in love with BIG, and Boyd knew that was going to be a problem for a dog-fighter.
GS, I have an idea for a new video series for you, it's a double point of view were you first show your perspective of the dog fight and then you show (as in this case Longshot) the opponents perspective of the dog fight where your viewers can see and hear there comintary and observations of the dog fight
I would think the F-15C would be closer to an SU-27/33/35, and the Mig-29 would be closer to an F-16/F/A-18? But I'm sure you've already had those combos.
that last round didn't end in a crash, it looked more like the flanker was trying the fusion dance with the earth and they just messed it up.
Was the flanker using tvc? its supposed to be able to move a lot like the felon and the raptor in theory with tvc that forces it to move in the direction the nozzles face opposite of
They’re not as precise as the felon, more of a missile carrier really. Felon has less missiles so probably need more guns on ability, imho
Not useful in a guns only fight where energy management is the key. You don’t want to use these super manoeuvrable “features” in a guns only fight that will leave you slow and an easy kill in a guns only fight.
You got replies that are correct but missing context that makes them not ridiculous. TVC can win 1-circle slow/close gunfights in seconds, and it can win missile fights in seconds. It's no good in a guns-only 2-circle fast/far fight. Pointing the nose does nothing but bleed your energy if the bandit's a mile away at the time.
@@GrowlingSidewinder this might be addressed soon, energy management
The f16 is the most forgiving yet punishing aircraft I think I have ever seen you fly lol
F16 be like “I AM SPEEEEED”
The F-16 may be an old design, but it sure holds up.
Best pure dogfighter ever designed.
the little dance on round before before the flanker ate the dirt, was beautiful for a moment.
I think that last fight aside from the flanker eating the deck has to be one of the best fights I have seen yet great job to both of you
The F16 deserves the attention that the F15 has received. They need to update that plane big. I would like to see them experiment with a vectoring nozzle on it.
3:10 The Holy Church of BFM... once again. So nice!
Love your content man, I love how you aren't overly enthused either like other CZcamsrs, almost calming, yet menacing in your ability to shot down these aircraft. bravo.
Really enjoyed seeing a close match up. Thanks for a great video.
That looks like my old aggressor I was the Crew Chief on, 86-0251. Freaking sweet!!
F-16 pilot with a SU-35 on his tail frantically searching youtube for advice...
8:10
*sighs with relief*
Love the F16 just giving you a helpful lil warning - just in case you hadn't realised you were lacking a wing, on fire and doing an impression of swiss cheese
That last round...SMOKIN HOT. Good stuff GS
16:03 flashbacks of the 2002 Sknyliv air show disaster...
Love the falling leaf flanker at the end of round 3!!
God the f-16 is just spectacular.
The melodramatic music in the background as the Su-35 is going down was eyebrow raising, then 😆.
Fatality was a nice touch lol.
Great content! Last round was awesome.
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you went 3 for 3 on pilot kills on this one!
Just more evidence that the Viper is a mean little snake. The enemy's first and last mistake is getting into a dogfight with it.
Gotta admit, that rolling scissors down on the deck followed by a Maneuvering Kill got me on edge.
I like how you've got an aggressor paint scheme on your F16 for this dogfight.
There is probably nothing tastier than seeing a fighting falcon get a maneuver kill against a Flanker. Thanks for that. Made my night.
Since NATO is heavily invested on the F35. Let's see how good it is. Do a BVR F35 VS Su57 or against multiple Su35/Su27.
Great manoeuvre kill. Stomach churning. My feet were pushing imaginary rudder pedals as I watched it.
Everyone forgets the deck is the F-16s friend
That was smart going low altitude as f16 is primo at dogfighting at low altitude certainly against a big moving target like the flankers!
The f-16 is the cutest 3:02
First maneuver kill I’ve seen. Good show chap
The rolling scissor at the end looks so cool
One fight that would be very interessting is a Mig-19 vs. Mig-21. Guns only aswell as Fox 2. Cant remember anybody did this in a video before.
Modern jets are fun, but gen 2/3 is my favorite
I saw a trick once where a pilot in WW2 in order to keep from overshooting a slower aircraft put his landing gear down to create drag and slow the plane down....
The first kill, the soft music followed by that MK Fatality, had me dying lmao
One of the tightest roller's I've ever seen!!
In the past
F-35 vs F-22 BVR? Would be an interesting fight i guess
It would be an interesting test for how accurate DCS is. During Red Flag the F-35 dominated the F-22 in bvr (according to public statements so who knows if that is true)
Would love to see some rounds of dogfights where both planes have one or two fox 2s in total that can be used in any of the 5 rounds. With that you‘ll try to do the gun fight but have to be careful as you could get shot down by the Fox 2 as well
Insane last round!!! That's why i love watching GS!
I guess the only counter argument to flaring in a guns only fight is making yourself visually easier to find.
Please make A gunfight video for Su-30 MKI vs F-16. I think that is something you have not done so far. It would be interesting to see, as these two aircrafts have been fielded by opposing nations (India and Pakistan) and are highly like to fight each other in event of an aerial conflict.
What a damn pain in the ass that F-16 is. I love it.
the colours in your videos are really vibrant. My DCS is quite flat as far as colours go. I really enjoy your videos, thanks
Keep up the great content and you'll be at a mil in no time
Interesting comment on the change in design focus between the 1970s and 1990s, going from a pure gun-fighter to a dominant Fox-2 fighter. Boyd was incensed that the USAF had pinned all their performance on missiles with the F4. The USAF brass briefed the Fighter Mafia that the missile would do the turning, not the fighter, thank you very much. Boyd told them where to shove it, citing the F4 in Vietnam.
As time rolled by though, missiles finally achieved the performance the F4 had assumed, and the Viper would have been in trouble as a platform, except the same speed, acceleration and miserly energy bleed when turning at high Gs also made the Viper an astoundingly good Fox-3 platform.
Fast forwarding even further to today, with the AIM-9X or Python and helmet mounted cueing, the Flanker still has the advantage in Fox-2, but not by much. If they want to erase it entirely all they have to do is put a couple of 2mi range Fox-2s on the Viper's strakes and point them backwards, queing with the HUD while looking backwards, although most Fox-2s today can easily get tone head-on from frontal skin friction heat.
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Loving the 18th Aggressor squadron livery on the F-16, I help support that fighter squadron
Terrain kill when he's trying to jink your shot is definitely a credited kill.
What could be interesting is seeing you and some others do some old WW2 tactics, such as the thach weave, etc. Would take a bit of effort on your part lol
That final scissors were epic.
Damn you were so close to that flanker you could have kept up foreign relations with that guy.
With some of those pilot kills they ought to have been labelled "Dismembered in Action" as they were likely sawed in half.
3:15 😂 so majestic
"F-16 is designed to be a dogfighter"
I blame Col John Boyd for that ....
3:42 Love the little Mortal Kombat touches but I think it would be cute to mix it up pilot kills with the occasional "Boom, Headshot" sound. Also someone needs to clip GS saying "ooya" at 10:46 please and thank you.
The first splash was beautiful
Cool! Are those JAF or Aggressor Squadron markings? NM, just saw the AK on the tail.
5:00 and see that’s why I always want to see the same Mach up with hobs next video 😅.
Looks like the Viper is in Red Flag aggressor camo, that's a nice touch...
Indeed it is, with AK tail markings which is the 18th Aggressor squadron out of Eielson AFB Alaska, I work with the 18th all the time, love the Aggressors
"It's just F-16... doin' F-16 things!" (Every other jet other than the Raptor) "Yeah! We know! You don't have to point it out!" 🤣
That first round felt like an execution
Set up some two circle fights over some extremely mountainous terrain to mix it up.
Does anyone know what are the main differences/upgrades between the Su-27, Su-30, Su-33 and Su-35?
30 and 35 are all up to date variants of the Su-27/33 and I think the 30 have TVC and the 35 can carry hypersonic missiles.
Su-30, Su-33, Su-35 are all ,,modern" variants of Su-27. Su-27 is a one-seater air superiority,Su 30 is a two seater multirole, Su-33 is a one-seater carrier based, Su-35 is a TVC one-seater multirole fighter with the lowest RCS of this four and the most modern one
Depending on variants, the Su-27 and Su-33 could have two-seater cockpits and variants of Su-30 have acces to TVC
Su-33 and variants of Su-30 have canards
Great vid man keep it up🙂
This makes me feel good about the F16 being my first module lol
Man...the Viper is such a badass aircraft
Fantastic last fight. Great stuff.
Round 3, when GS killed the flanker, flanker also went into a flat spin
with all those moves on the dance "floor" near the end...disco had nothing on you fellows.. I know... showing my age 😎
A harsh lesson in the conservation of momentum.
DCS needs a duel setting that places the planes on parallel, straight paths until they pass each other, and only then release the stick to players. Lots of these engagements the players start turning way before the merge.
Yes….this is called a lead turn and it’s 100% part of a dogfight it’s called the pre merge set up and to remove it makes the dogfight unrealistic and removes major advantages to the more skilled pilot who lead turns correctly or establishes turning room on his opponent, vice versa the other guy can deny turning room, you see the dogfight doesn’t start when the aircraft cross….it starts quite a few miles before that.
Silly question have you done a 2 circle vs the F22 vs F16?? (with the newest version of the F16)
Does anyone know if DCS has or will ever work on doing a work up of the F-16XL or YF-23? It would be amazing to see those two actually test the field.
one of the best fights ive watched 👍
Epic.. thanks !!!
Hey I was just wondering how it would turn out if you did differential thrust in the hornet
pretty sure its cause the engines are too close together to produce much yaw but who knows
Would it be useful for pilots to have "cruise control" to maintain optimum maneuvering speed during dogfights? Or maybe they do...
Just realized I wasn't subscribed but I thought I was because your videos kept showing up
I would love to see some Rafale gameplay dogfighting both gun and fox2 fights. That thing is a beast.