Homelab Dial-Up

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  • čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
  • Getting a local dial-up internet setup in my homelab with a Cisco 2610 router, an ATA, and some PCMCIA modems. We'll also try to setup a local Napster server, get a local AOL Instant Messenger (AIM) server going, and reminisce with my wife about what it was like to dial-up and use AIM back in the early 2000s.
    Check me out on Patreon: / clabretro
    Dial-Up Guides:
    www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?...
    serialport.org/blog/cisco-rou...
    gekk.info/articles/ata-config...
    Opennap: github.com/sbcas/opennap
    retro-aim-server: github.com/mk6i/retro-aim-ser...
    Rack stuff
    StarTech 25U Rack: amzn.to/3mEB7hS
    Tripp Lite SMART1500LCD UPS: amzn.to/3KZW3Jw
    1U 24 Port Patch Panel: amzn.to/3Nm0bFa
    1U Brush Panel: amzn.to/3mExAA3
    1U Rack Shelf: amzn.to/3oaDclT
    Video gear
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    Main mics: amzn.to/4dCUuO2
    Desk mic: amzn.to/3ye8BsV
    Note: The above are Amazon affiliate links. It doesn't cost you extra, but I'll receive a commission which will help keep the content coming. I only link to things I've personally ordered.
    Music by Karl Casey @ White Bat Audio
    00:00 Intro
    00:37 Hardware Overview
    01:36 Dial-Up Plan
    03:41 ATA Setup
    07:40 Testing the ATA
    11:13 Setting up the Cisco Router
    19:57 Troubleshooting Modem and ATA
    23:10 Dialing Up
    24:00 Accessing the Network over Dial-Up
    25:23 Why People are Nostalgic for Dial-Up
    28:12 Trying to Setup a Napster Server
    38:29 Setting up a Local AIM Server
    39:24 Using AIM Over Dial-Up
    40:34 Reminiscing with my Wife about AIM
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Komentáře • 535

  • @noahisamathnerd
    @noahisamathnerd Před měsícem +161

    Bringing in The Serial Port and CRD!? It’s the crossover episode I never knew I wanted!

    • @danisgay100
      @danisgay100 Před měsícem +4

      I would like to see someone do dial up with windows ce in 2024

    • @theserialport
      @theserialport Před měsícem +11

      Dial-up Dreams

    • @papalyjon9087
      @papalyjon9087 Před měsícem

      Geeks are sleeping on ClabRetro

    • @VK2FVAX
      @VK2FVAX Před měsícem +2

      @@danisgay100 CE?! Why you hate them so much?!

    • @cda32
      @cda32 Před měsícem +1

      TSP never went into much detail of their POTS setup :(

  • @NickBouwhuis
    @NickBouwhuis Před měsícem +131

    The Napster server mentioned running on 127.0.0.1:8875. That means it only listens for incoming connections on the localhost. Try setting the listen address to 0.0.0.0:8875 or :8875. If you do the latter, make sure to edit the hosts file with your internal IP, too.

    • @pearcomputers2542
      @pearcomputers2542 Před měsícem +9

      Yeah, that immediately caught my eye at 33:41 :D I guess i already tried too often to reach stuff that wasn't even listening globally.

    • @jonathanschober1032
      @jonathanschober1032 Před měsícem

      Agreed! This is why Napster failed!

    • @adampope5107
      @adampope5107 Před měsícem +4

      The meta server is talking to the main server over loopback. They're both on the same physical server.

    • @jonathanschober1032
      @jonathanschober1032 Před měsícem

      @@adampope5107 I thought the meta server is what clients communicate to. It also explains why Napster also on localhost worked

    • @adampope5107
      @adampope5107 Před měsícem +1

      ​@@jonathanschober1032it looks like the meta server acts as some sort of redirector which should be talking only to the main server. The client should be talking to the main server over port 8888. I think the client browser is configured to talk on the wrong port.
      If the meta server is supposed to be the client facing service, then yeah, it needs to be configured to listen to the IP address on the NIC.

  • @BAgodmode
    @BAgodmode Před měsícem +54

    The big flex was leaving your away message to show you had broad band.
    Problem was, my brother liked to do that on our dial up connection.

    • @rnts08
      @rnts08 Před měsícem

      We used isp+speed prefixes, like [IPNet/10] meant that someone was on the ipnet isp (within same network was usually unmetered) and 10 meant 10Mpbs unlink, everything from Napster, Kazaa, redline and DC++ before torrents took off.

    • @nickwallette6201
      @nickwallette6201 Před měsícem

      I eventually got a second phone line, and had a RAS manager called DUNCE installed that would detect when the connection dropped, and automatically reconnect. My computer was online 24/7. I would use mIRC's extensive scripting engine as a remote shell so I could access the filesystem through DCC Chat windows, and send/receive files to myself at school on the blazing-fast 128Kbps broadband connection.

  • @digitalsparky
    @digitalsparky Před měsícem +42

    Dialup is the reason LAN parties were so friggin fun :P.

    • @clabretro
      @clabretro  Před měsícem +10

      yes!

    • @BillAnt
      @BillAnt Před měsícem +8

      Back in the 80's and early 90's dial-up BBS's were all the range. In fact ran a Commodore C64 and Amiga board with single lines ("Mom! Get off the line!!" lol). Ahh the good ol' days (or bad from your perspective). heh

    • @digitalsparky
      @digitalsparky Před měsícem +4

      @@BillAnt I live in Australia, I was using dialup 'til the early 00s. with a 4 hour session limit, I was making a lot of phone calls... LOL

    • @BillAnt
      @BillAnt Před měsícem

      ​@@digitalsparky - Back then we used "phreak codes" for making free long distance and international calls to BBS'es overseas. We were living on the edge dangerously. hehe

    • @ffwast
      @ffwast Před měsícem +3

      @@digitalsparky I was using dialup until the LATE 00s. Makes me appreciate my new fiber line lol

  • @willosfloppydrive
    @willosfloppydrive Před měsícem +129

    I'm happy you're succeeding in making CZcams videos, I remember talking to you when you had less than 10k subs and I checked to see how many subs you had 1 year ago, you had around 640!

    • @clabretro
      @clabretro  Před měsícem +30

      thank you! it's been a fun ride so far

    • @willosfloppydrive
      @willosfloppydrive Před měsícem +8

      @@clabretro I hope it is!!

    • @mazda-787b-enjoyer
      @mazda-787b-enjoyer Před měsícem +3

      damn, how did he go from 6.440971856520002e1519 to 31.4k subscribers? he must have posted big cringe

    • @willosfloppydrive
      @willosfloppydrive Před měsícem +4

      @@mazda-787b-enjoyer "wow, 0 views in 3 seconds? must have fallen off"

    • @JustOrdinaryPao
      @JustOrdinaryPao Před měsícem +3

      Wholesome moment on CZcams? I must be dreaming XD
      Congrats on the dude for getting so many tho, massive achievement

  • @makceg
    @makceg Před měsícem +22

    as a admin of small dial-up isp in 1994 I "invented" a gear with 16 USR Courier v.34 modems without plastic cases which were stacked on 4 thread rods with some plastic spacers and this beast was mounted into standard 19" rack using some drywall tin elements. We had full rack of this, home-brew AC-AC large transformers to power this up, a fans sourced from old mainframe and two linux servers with multiport rs232 cards from Equinox to accept calls and run pppd. Later we put 2511's to replace linux machines built from consumer grade hardware. Was fun time, we offered "unlimited" night plans and all lines were busy, I loved to take night shifts to chat with people on our IRC channel or play something over network

    • @TerabyteForever
      @TerabyteForever Před měsícem +1

      Wow. What a story...

    • @imark7777777
      @imark7777777 Před 27 dny +1

      Every so often I would read a story of a small ISP and think that would be fun to do. Especially the free ones. One of these days I'll get it figured out on my end at least like to be able to dial-in to my house.

  • @floodo1
    @floodo1 Před měsícem +28

    "DONT PICK UP THE PHONE {insert family member} !!!!!!!"

  • @KayleeKerin
    @KayleeKerin Před měsícem +37

    Topical! I've been setting up a 24 line internal dial-up phone system at the Large Scale Systems museum. We used a Rhino T1 Channel bank, Asterisk, and T1 card to set it all up. Allows us to dial up different BBSs and systems in our second floor personal computer area.
    Glad to see more dial-up fun in other places!

  • @nealhocker
    @nealhocker Před měsícem +59

    lol “Hellorld!” UE would be proud

  • @rwieber79
    @rwieber79 Před měsícem +9

    II met my wife in early 2003 in an AOL chatroom and instant messenger. 21 years later and we're still together and going to celebrate our 20th wedding anniversary in July of this year. I'll never forget how dial-up was and having to make sure everyone stayed off the phone when you wanted on unless you had a separate line which eventually we got.

    • @clabretro
      @clabretro  Před měsícem +1

      ha that's awesome! and congratulations!

  • @sertralina100mg
    @sertralina100mg Před měsícem +25

    I was born in 2002 but was still able to catch the nostalgia about something I didnt even lived??? This tells something about the way you're making content. Keep it up.

    • @seshpenguin
      @seshpenguin Před měsícem

      Same! I have a little tiny bit of nostalgia for dial-up, because I remember when I was very young watching my dad occasionally use dial-up for some work related site VPN stuff (something like that), and a little bit later on messing around with NetZero was very fun as a kid (even though the entire time we had broadband).

  • @TravisNewton1
    @TravisNewton1 Před měsícem +12

    My fun dial-up story is that one day I was tired of having to get off the Internet whenever my mom needed to get on. Since we had a LAN that I built (so me and my dad could use the printer attached to the family computer over the network), one day I got the idea to install a proxy server on the family computer. Then I dialed up into AOL and ran back to my room. I configured my laptop to use the proxy server running on our family computer. I then opened Firefox and wirelessly browsed the web (albeit very painfully slow!) and showed my mom that we could both be online at the same time - just at a MUCH slower speed. And that's why I think modern tech is so boring. There used to be real problems to solve and it was always fun to solve them (or at least attempt to).

  • @basroos_snafu
    @basroos_snafu Před měsícem +42

    The 4 wire telephone line allowed me to have my own number at my parents' house, so I could be online without keeping their line engaged. Those were the days, but I'm also happy they are over. And now, now I want a wife that uses the word "asynchronous". Thanks for the video!

  • @fredneedle123
    @fredneedle123 Před měsícem +16

    I had two phone lines. One for voice calls and one for dial up internet. I couldn't afford an ISDN line, or whatever it was called. When I got my first broadband line, I had one of them USB frog type modems for it. I had to use the main computer like a router for other computers to connect at the same time. It was all very exciting.

    • @oldschooldude8370
      @oldschooldude8370 Před měsícem +2

      Haven't heard isdn in quite some time. Noone could afford it 😂 It was designed for businesses like t1 or t3. Dsl was what became affordable.

    • @fredneedle123
      @fredneedle123 Před měsícem

      @@oldschooldude8370 indeed. Not sure about the speed of ISDN. Probably nothing compared to fibre to the premises. That's got some grunt.

    • @oldschooldude8370
      @oldschooldude8370 Před měsícem +1

      @@fredneedle123 The isdn you're likely referencing was typically 128kbps. Broadband isdn was fiber instead of twisted pair.

  • @nickwallette6201
    @nickwallette6201 Před měsícem +5

    One of my fondest dial-up memories was when I got my first cable modem. I connected to Napster, found an MP3 I wanted, and started the download. A few seconds later, I hit Play. It had always been an option in the software to play the file while it was downloading, but on dial-up, it wasn't fast enough to keep up with real-time playback. Finally, with my shiny new cable modem, I could. The smile I got on my face when I could actually play a file _while it was downloading_ was so wide it broke through the walls in my bedroom.
    Second coolest experience was when my older brother came over and saw Windows Update downloading updates for Win ME. Back then, software would tell you what it was doing and how it was coming along, so it had a counter of KB downloaded. My brother watched for a moment, and then asked, kind of incredulously, "... is that 12 MEGABYTES downloaded already?" "Yep." "Wow, that's fast." "Yep."

  • @stephensalex
    @stephensalex Před 19 dny +3

    The story of you and your wife really hits home. Same here and we still have the entire TXT file of our chat log, uninterrupted, from the time we met until the day we moved in together. So sweet!

  • @AROAH
    @AROAH Před 27 dny +1

    It’s remarkable how similar our childhood experiences were. My dad had dial-up long into the mid 2000s and I was always excited to visit my mom’s on weekends because she had broadband, since she lived in the city. I’ll never forget the days of trying to open a high res image at my dad’s and having to walk away and watch TV or play a game for a while as it downloaded.

  • @HyperDroids
    @HyperDroids Před měsícem +40

    A Saturday upload by clabretro? Oh, today's a good day!

  • @breadramen
    @breadramen Před měsícem +7

    I also grew up on the tail end of dial up, we lived outside of town in a rural area though, too far from CO to get DSL, so we were stuck using 56k until about 2010!! At that point I convinced my parents to get us smartphones with cellular data instead. Wasn't much faster at the time but the ability to be always online was game changing.
    You hit all the highlights of my memories of dial up, although I was more of a Limewire/MSN kid. Looking forward to future content with this setup!

  • @Gnomesenpai
    @Gnomesenpai Před měsícem +21

    you need to self host MSN too!

  • @coreybabcock2023
    @coreybabcock2023 Před měsícem +12

    Seriously I'm literally in tears cause I would do anything to go back to 2001 and redo it all over again

    • @user-pf9dr2bt6z
      @user-pf9dr2bt6z Před měsícem +1

      I know what you mean, it was amazing !!!!

    • @DataDashy
      @DataDashy Před měsícem

      You still can 😂 get some retro friends and play ipx games on kali, nothings better 🎉

  • @Graham_Rule
    @Graham_Rule Před měsícem +3

    I ditched my last Windows 95 laptop (which had a modem) a few weeks ago and yesterday came across one of those SIPURA/Linksys/Cisco units that I'd forgotten about. Then CZcams recommends this video to me. I must have forgotten to turn off my current laptop's camera. 😊

  • @fokthewef
    @fokthewef Před měsícem +3

    That was thoroughly enjoyable. As an ex ISP tech who got to play around with E1s, T1s, Cisco dial-up configs, modem troubleshooting, customer support, and spending waaay too much money on dialup 😂😂😂😂 you keep bringing back precious memories buddy.. thanks a bunch.. i can see you too liked big butts 😂😂😂

  • @daaero
    @daaero Před měsícem +2

    We had that 'scarce resource' of a single phone line as well. As soon as I was able to afford it as a kid through odd jobs, we had a second phone line installed. This allowed us to run the connection 24/7. We used a Cisco router, which was exotic for home use at the time to share the connection.

  • @Jacobhopkins117
    @Jacobhopkins117 Před měsícem +8

    I grew up at the tail end of dial up. I remember having a Windows 98 Toshiba laptop that my grandma gave me and running a 100ft RJ11 cable across the house. We used MSN as our ISP. We thankfully got broadband ~2003. But that was a core memory for me. Great video as always!

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L Před měsícem

      Lucky, I got broadband in 06!
      I used CZcams for a year and a bit on dial up… but tbh it wasn’t that different of an experience compared to loading Flash animations/games (on Newgrounds, Explosm, etc) anyway.

  • @simono.d9469
    @simono.d9469 Před měsícem +1

    Thanks for the trip down memory lane!
    I’m totally with your wife in terms of the instant interaction. As soon as you saw a buddy log in, especially with msn, you knew you were going to have a good night.

  • @MatteoSaitta
    @MatteoSaitta Před měsícem +9

    Fun fact, both 6P4C (the four wire grey cable) and 6P2C (the two wire white cable) are the official RJ11 pinout. 6P4C is used for basic landlines if you want to provide extra power to the phone, otherwise 6P2C is more than enough.

    • @alexdhall
      @alexdhall Před 16 dny

      Really? The more you know....

  • @DeathCubeKX
    @DeathCubeKX Před měsícem +3

    Takes me back to the early 2000s on my Win 98 machine my grandma gave me. Complaining when someone would pickup the phone and making you completely start over on your download, scheduling to download pointless programs overnight, what a blast lol. Always love the "dial-up sound".

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L Před měsícem

      Yeah, me too. I wish I’d known about download managers back before I got broadband 😅

  • @JesseTheStig
    @JesseTheStig Před měsícem +8

    Finally got a chance to sit down today and watch the full video and what an absolutely amazing episode! Between the hardware setup, the software setup/config, trying out different hardware/troubleshooting, setting up your own napster and aim servers and then the special guest of your wife!!! You are by far my favorite channel and I am really enjoying watching you put more and more effort into these videos because your efforts really show! The fit and finish of your videos is spectacular and I love every second of it! Keep at it because I can't wait to see what the future brings!!!!

    • @clabretro
      @clabretro  Před měsícem +1

      thank you, that means a lot!

  • @matthewnirenberg
    @matthewnirenberg Před měsícem +16

    WinMX was the go-to for music back in the day!

    • @lmaoroflcopter
      @lmaoroflcopter Před měsícem

      WinMX came later for me, but its support for opennap/napster networks was amazing.

    • @stan464
      @stan464 Před měsícem +1

      Its still alive and kicking too! :)

  • @yukayuyu3844
    @yukayuyu3844 Před měsícem +2

    That was a pleasure to watch. Brought back memories of laying down about 30 meters of RJ11 around the house every few days just to connect and preload some extremely simple flash games and then disconnect so my parents could use the phone, what a pain that was. Extremely expensive as well, billed by a minute AND per some amount of data transferred (hooray for telecom monopolies).
    But then broadband came in the form of euroDOCSIS over coax - the image of my dad coming back from work with a motorola SurfBoard modem and a 10/100 PCI card is burned deep within my memory - night and day difference compared to 56k.

  • @BestSpatula
    @BestSpatula Před měsícem +6

    You have saved me so much work. I don't have to do any of the setup or troubleshooting to see this awesome retro stuff.

  • @webluke
    @webluke Před 15 dny +1

    Because my dad didn't want to pay for dial-up, we never had it at his house; when I moved to my mom's, they didn't have a computer. My friend who owned the computer store didn't want dial-up, so he started an ISP with a T1 and customized 802.11b WiFi. So, I got to skip dial-up for the most part around 2004. My friend told me about the "old days" when he and his wife would take computers to Salt Lake City, then get a hotel room and spend a weekend downloading everything they could from BBS to bring back to town in Wyoming for their BBS.

  • @jtpro2572
    @jtpro2572 Před měsícem +10

    Time machine! Super retro video! My respect to episode with your wife! True love to people and technologies.

  • @James-hy8gu
    @James-hy8gu Před měsícem +1

    That was nostalgic hearing the dial-up. I almost cried

  • @leeterthanyou
    @leeterthanyou Před měsícem +3

    1:12 AW YEAAA I still have my Hayes modem! One of the coolest things back in the day was having it set up at home on a little 486 linux machine in my basement and dialing IN from my highschool computer lab to grab my homework.

  • @b3pp0
    @b3pp0 Před měsícem +7

    My first experience with dailup was with Windows 3.11 and 14.4kb modem.. that was good times

    • @anidnmeno
      @anidnmeno Před měsícem +1

      i had a performa 6200cd with a 14.4 in it.... took an hour to load my own myspace page

    • @peppigue
      @peppigue Před měsícem +1

      think mine was 3.1 and 28.8, ibm aptiva in 1994. my big regret is not starting my tech journey then, tinkering and trying to figure out what was going on under the hood. only started learning these last four years, back then didn't have anyone around me (nor youtube channels) to spur me on and inspire me

    • @b3pp0
      @b3pp0 Před měsícem +1

      @@peppigue I had my father repair my computer when i opened it and changing stuff, until he said to me if you open it and tinkering with it you can fix it yourself likewise with installing/reinstalling stuff... and on that way i learned.. :D

  • @greenconscious210
    @greenconscious210 Před měsícem +4

    FYI, Sipura was the company that Linksys bought the ATA designs from before they themselves were bought by Cisco. Neither Linksys nor Cisco improved the Sipura firmware in any way, they just changed the logo on the top and called it good. That's why the firmware doesn't behave like anything else Cisco or Linksys have ever made.
    The UniFi controller isn't actually recognizing anything, the SPAs send "SipuraSPA" as their hostname in their DHCP requests

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L Před měsícem

      Do they send the little picture of it too? If not, maybe that’s the part that was the router’s doing.

  • @user-wu4cw5ed5w
    @user-wu4cw5ed5w Před měsícem +4

    In 2006, we had another infuriating pet peeve - a broadband 100mbit connection that was time limited and metered. It blew us!

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L Před měsícem

      Gosh, 100-150 still feels fast to me today. I can’t imagine having that in 06 (since even if you were booted off it after a time, you could download/cache more than enough stuff to keep you going offline. If your computer could keep up I guess). I had “56k” (more like 30k) at the start of the year and got a blistering 128-256k DSL by the autumn.

    • @hariranormal5584
      @hariranormal5584 Před měsícem +1

      IIRC in 2006 100Mb was probably the standard connection speeds for ISP's, Datacenters etc to communicate itself for haha. Per port they probably peered via that.
      Today, 100G is the "boring" standard. Faster is 400G now

  • @Montycopa
    @Montycopa Před měsícem +4

    When our cable company first came out with broadband our first cable modem had a coax connection for download and a phone line connection for upload! Then we got a letter a couple of weeks later to disconnect the phone line, but we did get “the sound” from it when it had to redial.

  • @user-fh2fm7vr4m
    @user-fh2fm7vr4m Před měsícem +6

    Awesome video as usual! I have a good understanding of the things happening, but I like including the mentions of what hosts files are and the registry etc for those who may have not encountered.
    Awesome to see Usagi online!

  • @jameysummers1577
    @jameysummers1577 Před měsícem

    Thats why we wqent online late at night. everyone was in bed and your one phone line was all yours. My first exposure was BBS in the late 80s early 90s.
    My gawd...I'm older than most people online. I'm listening to you guys talk and thinking "we had pagers in school".

  • @powerspec88
    @powerspec88 Před měsícem +6

    First got the internet in 1997 using a 14.4k modem and Windows 95, by 2004, we had a dedicated phone line for the dial-up connection and by 2006 I had a Windows Server 2003 box running the connection and using a proxy software to route the traffic out the ethernet port to my Linksys router in AP mode so I can connect all my devices including my Xbox 360 so I could connect to Xbox Live (I could never play MP games though)! Using NetZero, my connection never dropped unless my power went out. I had a screenshot of showing over 51 days of uptime.
    I lived 10 minutes to the closest town so dial-up was all I could get till DSL came in 2010 as they setup a R-DSLAM right down the road from my house so I could get 10Mbps Embarq DSL in the middle of nowhere!
    I now have 8Gbps fiber and getting 20Gbps installed here shortly! 2006 me would NEVER thought these kind of speeds would be for home users!

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L Před měsícem +2

      Oh, Xbox Live (for text chat etc I presume?) over dial up! I knew a bunch of people who had original Xboxen who just believed Microsoft‘s “does not work without broadband” disclaimer and never got theirs online at all.

    • @powerspec88
      @powerspec88 Před měsícem +2

      @@kaitlyn__L yep, for chat and achievements! Trying match making in like halo 2 would just keep searching for matches and never find one.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L Před měsícem

      @@powerspec88 that’s awesome honestly. I wish those pals knew it was possible back in the day lol. Some of them waited until 2006-09 to finally get their Halo cheevs registered lol

    • @imark7777777
      @imark7777777 Před 27 dny

      Impressive up time. I toyed around with the linux distribution router Software and Old systems but eventually ended up back with ICS on Windows or Mac. In 2006 when we eventually settle down into a house I wasn't sure what kind of Internet connection I was going to have so I picked up an airport express? ( I think that's what it was ) with built-in modem and Wi-Fi. wow you can connect wirelessly! Never got to use it for that purpose as we ended up getting Comcast cable and no landline to use it as dial-in.
      There were a few integrated boxes to do that but not many.
      I remember scanning where we used to live when I finally got a wireless card and being not surprised that there was absolutely nothing around me in the middle of nowhere of a Valley.

  • @SupportSquirrel
    @SupportSquirrel Před měsícem +1

    lol, my dad used Netzero until 2006 when we got DSL. But I needed internet and wanted my own line in College in case I was away from home. I remember having to run a cable to my parent's room to my room to plug into my COmpaq Win2000 laptop - but I could only use it after 10:30PM when my dad went to bed. Man these videos are nostalgic!

  • @mateuszgierblinski
    @mateuszgierblinski Před měsícem +1

    I surely hope you'll make it big on CZcams cause your videos are not only entertaining to watch but also make me feel like i'm back in the old days. Thanks!

  • @dariendragon
    @dariendragon Před 6 dny

    What a throwback with 'instant' messaging. I never used AIM, though. I started with ICQ and later moved to MSN messenger. I think Trillian was a thing for a while, and it integrated all the messengers into one app. Talk about nostalgia.

  • @bw6378
    @bw6378 Před měsícem +3

    Napster was great, it was a distraction that helped keep Limwire et al. going for a while longer. lol Thanks for the dose of nostalga. Of course you can go even more retro some day with BBS (I even used Sprint Tymnet outdial modems to get to BBS in distant cities). Thanks for the video!

    • @lukmly013
      @lukmly013 Před měsícem

      Soulseek still exists, by the way.

  • @alarmingly_good
    @alarmingly_good Před měsícem +2

    This weekend has already been pretty good, and now it got even better

  • @Blaidomon
    @Blaidomon Před měsícem +2

    Real cool hearing you mention CRD. Big fan of Gravis' work. Hope y'all do something together sometime

  • @SproutyPottedPlant
    @SproutyPottedPlant Před měsícem +3

    That is awesome! Better than my setup which consisted of 2 modems and a small unbranded PBX with a BT master socket stuck to the top 😅 but them I preferred to play with telephones and answering machines anyway especially old cassette based ones!

    • @imark7777777
      @imark7777777 Před 27 dny

      Oh Cassette based answering machines has so much character.

  • @JTrickZ
    @JTrickZ Před měsícem +4

    The guides from all my other Netro youtubers is great! Saw you in a clip on a channel about an in person event as well!

    • @clabretro
      @clabretro  Před měsícem

      ha awesome! probably VCF East or something?

    • @JTrickZ
      @JTrickZ Před měsícem

      @@clabretro yup that what I believe it was! Kinda wished I had know and was available would have loved to head down to it!

  • @Lord_Dillinger
    @Lord_Dillinger Před měsícem

    I jumped on AOL with a 14.4 Modem back in the day...reliving the dial tone days via your video, makes me love the high speed we enjoy today! I still have an old HAYES serial modem with a router/switch that can tell it to dial up and share the connection via a network! Let me know if you'd like to try that setup!

  • @tjmbv8680
    @tjmbv8680 Před měsícem

    Love this channel, it gives me the joy of playing with old enterprise gear without having to store it.

  • @7667neko
    @7667neko Před měsícem

    Great to see there are more dial-up setups around!

  • @UntouchedWagons
    @UntouchedWagons Před měsícem +2

    Oh man a Cisco 2600. I learned networking on one of those back in high school.

  • @djtecthreat
    @djtecthreat Před měsícem +4

    Part of the Nostalgia is also it was usually after 8pm (for me) because the phone was free. Back then we had minute plans so parking a PC on the net for hours was expensive. We'd finish up dinner, get a bath, and then get on the internet until bed time (9-930pm). It was an experience.

    • @rnts08
      @rnts08 Před měsícem +1

      Ah, the free/cracked internet dialing lists, unlimited minutes, 1-800 numbers saved me from my caretakers wrath around the cost or dialup.

    • @hw2508
      @hw2508 Před měsícem +1

      If you knew, you were just reading something, you'd disconnect to save money / minutes. You could receive your mails, disconnect and read them offline. Often there were CDs in magazines with 20 free hours from ISP X or Y.
      But when an over night download failed, it was disappointing.

    • @djtecthreat
      @djtecthreat Před měsícem

      @hw2508 Back then I had a program called "Get Right" that would allow download pausing and scheduling. It would also drop the connection or shut down the PC when downloads finished.

    • @hw2508
      @hw2508 Před měsícem

      @@djtecthreat A good download manager was priceless.

  • @squeeeb
    @squeeeb Před měsícem

    Nostalgia overload! Great video, and I like that you got your wife to join.

  • @bankruptsee
    @bankruptsee Před 18 dny

    Thanks for reliving the memories. Getting online in itself was so exciting back in the day

  • @OVERKILL_PINBALL
    @OVERKILL_PINBALL Před měsícem +2

    I love the Nostalgia on this channel
    Thank you

  • @david78212
    @david78212 Před 11 dny +1

    People have no idea what they take for granted. I remember when dialup first came out and they would disconnect you, no matter what you were doing, after a couple of hours. Several ISPs would just cut you off for downloading too much in a 24hour period and you would have to wait until the next day. Now your internet is just on and people are so used to it just being there, they don’t know how to act when it doesn’t work, like their life is incomplete because they can’t get online…and I say all this while posting a comment on a CZcams video online. 🙄
    FWIW - I used to run the network for a metal fabrication shop, yes the shop was networked, and we had two shops, one in Nashville and one in Waco, connected with a T1 and terminal server. Those Cisco routers were my nemesis, we had a 99% guaranteed uptime T1 that went down weekly, until we switched providers and then it was rock solid…which was baffling because it was the exact same lines, nothing changed except who we paid. I hate technology.

  • @AlexDawson2020AD
    @AlexDawson2020AD Před měsícem +2

    Great video!.. AOL was so fun back in the day !

  • @einarmiger
    @einarmiger Před měsícem

    Thank you!
    This video was just like a time machine for me ... I was still able to use Napster when it was still free and legal ... since 1996 even with an ISDN dial-up connection with a flatrate before I got an ADSL-line in 2000 with the incredible speed of 768 kb/s …

  • @m_rocka
    @m_rocka Před měsícem

    Used dial-up until my early teens, you summed up the experience pretty well.

  • @TylerLasagna
    @TylerLasagna Před měsícem +1

    great video as always, what a trip down nostalgia lane!

  • @argentlupin
    @argentlupin Před měsícem +1

    Love this retro stuff was born in 1980 and my dad was into computers had a ti-99 which i learned my abc's and 123's before kindergarten. then moved to an xt computer and other better pc's from ega to cga to vga to svga. using dial up for bbs's and early internet like aol, prodigy, and sierra online 3600 buad and earlier then moving up to 14,4 then 56k. getting a sound blaster card and first cd-rom drive 2x speed was big deal cd's had to be put in a reader case like a floppy at first. when i went university in 1999 i had been a little out of the tech loop so i learned then about napster mp3's irc aol chat and icq chat. thanx for the vid and the memories.

  • @AlejandroFerrariMc
    @AlejandroFerrariMc Před měsícem

    I've been addicted to this channel since I found it a few months ago. I love to see what was powering networks when I was growing up, and your general antics 😂😂

  • @johnvanwinkle4351
    @johnvanwinkle4351 Před měsícem

    The technology is nostalgic and videos like this is history of the internet. Thanks for making this video!

  • @steamAltech
    @steamAltech Před měsícem

    I just love your videos, its like all of the fun of hardware tinkering, but none of the 6 hours problemsolving :)

  • @user-pf9dr2bt6z
    @user-pf9dr2bt6z Před měsícem

    Great video with good info, and you wife seems really cool

  • @o0julek0o
    @o0julek0o Před 21 dnem

    God this is so much fun to watch. I got to play with the internet just after dialup died off in Central Europe. But this looks just so fun

  • @hariranormal5584
    @hariranormal5584 Před měsícem

    This wasn't just configuring Cisco equipment or dial-up. It was much more than that. Thanks. Even though I grew up with 8Mbit Fiber (yeah! back in 2011, wasn't rich, just was in the right place haha) just hearing those voices and the vibes even after recreating them feels so cool. Nostalgia experienced for sure.

  • @TastyBusiness
    @TastyBusiness Před 24 dny +1

    Ohhhh, retro AIM server hits a sweet spot for me.

  • @gothikia
    @gothikia Před měsícem

    Hell yeah. :) I've been rocking a similar setup with a PAP2T. Nice work! I had no idea that people had started the retro-aim-server project. I'm probably going to start playing with it tonight! :D

  • @SuperprogamerTF2
    @SuperprogamerTF2 Před měsícem

    This is one of the best youtube channels i have seen in a while

  • @NEStalgia1985
    @NEStalgia1985 Před měsícem +4

    Gotta love the CRD

  • @smpstech
    @smpstech Před měsícem

    Your story about why dial up is so nostalgic is very familiar to me. My childhood home did not get high speed internet (FTTN through the power company of all places) until years after I had moved out. A good day was when you could get a 26.4k connection. My parents were divorced, dads house had high speed access, a blazing fast 1.5mbps DSL connection. I had an early smartphone and I figured out how to tether it at my mom's house, I remember staying up all night then playing Fable 3 with my friend over Xbox live.

  • @AleksyGrabovski
    @AleksyGrabovski Před měsícem

    Nice nostalgic video. I also didn't have good internet back in the early 2000's so me with friends regularly visited local internet cafe to get online.

  • @k9man163
    @k9man163 Před 26 dny

    Ive watched all of your videos at least twice. Idk how you don't have a million or more subs. I love your content. keep it up.

    • @clabretro
      @clabretro  Před 26 dny

      thanks! more videos in progress

  • @Hahuh378
    @Hahuh378 Před měsícem +1

    I remember the tail end/when we migrated from dial up to broadband at my parents. It took us quite a long time to get to faster speeds (Yay for being in the middle of nowhere) and it used to take forever to download or upload anything, definitely don't miss that side of it, but would be fun to get some of my retro gear hooked up to the network in a similar fashion

  • @LB4FH
    @LB4FH Před měsícem

    So cool to see this work 😁 Lovely old sound.

  • @damirkvajo
    @damirkvajo Před měsícem +3

    My IM of choice was ICQ and I still remember the UIN number :)

    • @rnts08
      @rnts08 Před měsícem +1

      Me too, 5-digit original, 7-digit alt. ;)

    • @nickwallette6201
      @nickwallette6201 Před měsícem

      @@rnts08 Haha... I had a 6-digit UIN. Still remember that, and my GeoCities URL.

  • @grabasandwich
    @grabasandwich Před měsícem

    My dad got PC's thru his railway union in the early 90s. I think we started with 2400 baud. A couple years later they paid for a separate "fax" line.
    I used a few BBSes and even went to a meetup at a pizza hut downtown when I was 13 or 14. It gave me a real sense of what kind of people used them.
    I think we got DSL around 97-99? I don't think we ever had cable internet while I lived at home (til '02) cuz his work must've had a deal with the telco for DSL.
    I wish I'd learned more about coding or programming and gotten into tech. I envy those who made a lot of money at the time.
    Thanks

  • @spartansfan1026
    @spartansfan1026 Před měsícem

    I enjoyed the discussion about dial-up nostalgia! My family got our first PC just in time for the 56k era. We had lots of good times exploring a more simple internet in the late '90s and early '00s. Like you, I didn't get a broadband line for years later, not until 2010 in my case, due to living in an area underserved by ISPs. Let me say, you had to be very committed to load webpages and media on 56k in 2010!

  • @ToxicKlay
    @ToxicKlay Před měsícem

    I relate to your specific dial-up stories very deeply - our home had an AOL dial-up connection well into 2008! I had moved out by that point and access to broadband elsewhere, but an overwhelming amount of time was spent browsing the Internet on dial-up!
    As an aside, I remember buying the platinum edition of F.E.A.R. at CompUSA and wondering why the setup wouldn't launch. My PC only had a CD-ROM drive and FEAR shipped on a DVD. The mid 2000s was such a fun time for computers

  • @subynut
    @subynut Před měsícem

    I remember living in rural Idaho and the best my Mom's iMac could do was 9600 baud! I built a Red Hat 4 based 486 with an external 36.6K modem that would consistently get 14.4k and shared the internet connection with my brother's computer over a 10base2 network I setup between our computers. Fun times back then!

  • @4rft5
    @4rft5 Před měsícem +2

    i've been wanting to set up an AIM server for years, this'll be interesting to watch

  • @aggelos_0256
    @aggelos_0256 Před 13 dny

    why does this have only 3.5k likes? this video deserves much more recognition!

  • @taldmd
    @taldmd Před měsícem

    Great video! triggers some nostalgia and old memories indeed. Regarding to the 4 wire, I remember certain models of DSL routers allowed you to choose between inner or outer pair. At the beginning of DSL, subscribers needed a splitter which separated the lower band (voice) from the higher band (DSL/data), so you could use the two outer wires which were always unused by the phones for your DSL router without running new cables. These splitters were later made obsolete by the microfilters.

  • @stuartykins
    @stuartykins Před měsícem +1

    Not sure if anyone else has said this, but you can create a small "loopback" connector to plug into the LAN port of the SPA instead of it having to be plugged into your network. That way it tricks the box into thinking it's connected to some kind of network, and it'll allow you to place the calls between one port and the other without having to be wired via ethernet. Only do this once you've got it configured as you need though.
    My mum is a childminder and I created a very simple setup for kids to play with. It allowed two phones connected with immediate dialling. When one was picked up, it would phone the other. I also powered it by a battery pack, and hid it inside a box, so no mains voltage and the kids could phone each other and speak!

    • @DjAle1
      @DjAle1 Před dnem +1

      Thanks for the tip!

  • @MinorLG
    @MinorLG Před měsícem +1

    I specifically bought one of these ATA router things at Goodwill when I found it one time. I deshelled it, with plans to rack mount

  • @ayitsyaboi
    @ayitsyaboi Před měsícem

    Seeing AIM took me on a nostalgia trip I wasn't prepared for. I used to spend the summer nights on sites like omegle and always added people on AIM. Being social on the internet was a totally different experience back then. The point your wife makes on asynchronicity is something I haven't thought about, but it definitely rings true. There's also the fact that it's so scattered now, especially in the mobile world. Instagram, Snapchat, Facebook, whatsapp, etc. On desktop it's 99% Discord, which just makes me miss TS3 more than anything.
    I don't know if it's the nostalgia and fading memories, but I really believe the internet was a more fun experience back then. Not necessarily better, just more intimate and creative. Web 2.0 lacks the more personal feeling that web 1.0 had.

    • @clabretro
      @clabretro  Před měsícem

      yeah it was so fun to use it again

  • @m1k3e
    @m1k3e Před měsícem

    Awesome video! These ATAs were going on eBay for $20-something dollars the morning this video came out. A few hours later, a lot of the sellers jacked up the prices.

    • @clabretro
      @clabretro  Před měsícem +1

      The original seller I bought these from still has them for $18 www.ebay.com/itm/126162564513

    • @m1k3e
      @m1k3e Před měsícem

      @@clabretro Much appreciated!!

  • @jkl2136
    @jkl2136 Před měsícem

    Thank you for the video, looking to do this myself now!

  • @hariranormal5584
    @hariranormal5584 Před měsícem

    I love those old router led styles. Where it goes down a bit in the edge so you can see it from the other angle aswell.

  • @AlexZanderMuro
    @AlexZanderMuro Před měsícem +1

    Ive been looking into one of the 16 port modem cards that goes into the big slot on the 2600 for a little while now, but the prices on them were pretty crazy when ive checked so i havent pulled the trigger yet. Awesome to see you actually get it working for dialup!

    • @clabretro
      @clabretro  Před měsícem

      I was eyeing those too but yeah the prices are nuts!

    • @rnts08
      @rnts08 Před měsícem +1

      Problem is, they're still useful in some applications. Disaster recovery, oob, travel...

  • @DrathVader
    @DrathVader Před měsícem +3

    Not sure if you thought of it while attempting to install XP on the Thinkpad, but I remember having to switch the SATA controller mode from AHCI to IDE in BIOS, otherwise XP wouldn't install on these Vista-era computers.

    • @clabretro
      @clabretro  Před měsícem

      yeah unfortunately setting it to compatibility on this machine didn't work for some reason

  • @ThRS-10
    @ThRS-10 Před měsícem +1

    I absolutely love the video you made; it brings back so much nostalgia for these technologies. I have a version of Kazaa Lite that has the capability to act as a supernode, but I haven't been able to get it to work with multiple virtual machines. If you'd like, I can provide you with the setup of KaZaA Lite so you can take a look. I'm also tempted to revisit Napster and LimeWire, but I lack the technical know-how. Keep up the great work!
    From France !

    • @clabretro
      @clabretro  Před měsícem +1

      If I dig into Kazaa I'll let you kno!

  • @xXBeefyDjXx
    @xXBeefyDjXx Před měsícem

    Man, this is such a cool demo of the gear and it's really sweet to hear your nostalgic memories and retrospectives of the days.
    I was just about old enough to remember the days of AOL Dial-up and MSN Explorer, though I was a MSN Messenger kid right up to the Skype takeover.
    Tech these days has kinda lost that magic, but it does raise the question, has it? Or are we just getting older and used to such things...

  • @nukfauxsho
    @nukfauxsho Před měsícem

    We got broadband when i was 13 (2002). Before then, my mom was nice enough to give me the phone line whenever i wanted. My uncle gave me a laptop (first a pentium 1 MMX, then a Pentium 2 with win 2000). I loved it. I was truly "always online" then.

  • @acfrazier
    @acfrazier Před měsícem

    I'm not someone that normally comments on CZcams, because lol, CZcams comments, but I gotta say: I've enjoyed watching the growth of your channel, and others like it over the years. You have managed to catch the vibe of "Someone sharing something they are passionate about with online friends, who are also somewhat knowledgeable, but maybe not necessarily as deep in the same niche". It captures the energy of, ironically enough, one side of some IM/IRC conversations I've had over the years. So, I can't help but cheer you on. I caught the tail end of this nostalgia as a middle Millennial. I'm glad folks are making content about this stuff, because retro tech is an expensive (and obscure!) hobby, and as much as I would like to own a lot of different niche things (wouldn't we all?), my wallet can only handle so much pain.

    • @clabretro
      @clabretro  Před měsícem

      Well I'm glad you commented, thank you! The exact vibe I'm trying for when I sit down to make a video is "how can I convince everyone this is as exciting as I think it is?" -- it's really awesome to hear that's coming across!