I really loved this segment, Peter, thank you. It was a little depressing too, as I am 67 years old and could have used all this wonderful advice when i was starting out, or even halfway through my career. Sadly some of this comes much too late for me to utilize. I hope some of the younger musicians out there take all your advice to heart and make the most of it. I'm a drummer first, who switched to vibes and now am learning keyboards so I love everything you and Adam have to offer. It has helped me learn so much and also really enjoy what I learn! Thank you! 🙂
I’m late to the party, but this was great. Thanks for your wisdom Peter! Sometimes the best advice are things you already know deep down, and you just need someone to validate and clarify them. Found myself saying “Omg you’re so right!” throughout this video.
Thanks so much! Very encouraging. I got to see you live about 25 years ago with Wynton in Arcata, Ca. From the wings! That was one of the first times I saw playing of that level right in front of me. Patience indeed!
Impeccable speech !! Your linear playing is so fresh, creative, and fine and precise in both rhythm and dynamics. 1) Technique Matters !! 2) Reference points (mentors)..Nina Simone !! 3) Consistency matters !! (Yah gotta show up). Micro break throughs.. 4) Network matters..musical information mentor ship).. Network effect !! Pay it forward!! 5) Humilitymatters...throughout..!! Serve the music !! through humility....very important ..6) Patience matters..consistency.. humility/patience. Longer view... Amazing outline, exquisitely presented. This channel should be in the know by all music colleges teaching jazz and improv. Peter Martin manages to integrate all these wonderfully explained points and lives these points through his music and brilliant playing. So good and inspiring Peter !!!
Thanks for exemplifying "showing up" with the reliability of this podcast, as well as "being there" for our network. I didn't make any music for three days. Thanks for the encouragement to keep striving for consistency!
The showing up thing is everything. Much of what You'll Hear It talks about is for people who have already done the basics so it was good to hear this. For people more on the beginning end of the scale, like me, I think a really important concept is that "repetition is magic". So "showing up" means: 1. I can't play this 2. break it into small chunks and repeat it like crazy 3. put the chunks together and repeat that like crazy 4. now I can play it Sometimes you come back the next day and it feels like magic that you can now play it. Repetition is powerful because it takes something that is difficult and breaks it into simple repetitive pieces, which is maybe boring, but is not difficult. Maybe this is obvious, but I feel like it is not talked about enough, at least for beginners.. Probably Peter spent hours, and hours and hours on this. Experts like him rarely talk about that part of the journey. BTW I am working on some of the Open Studio courses and they are great. The guided practice sessions are great.
That showing up bit was beautiful. The universe will conspire to help you but you gotta be there when it does. You gotta show up for that. Much love brother 🙏
Thank you for sharing all yhis feelings... not easy to put it in words , that was great ! We will share to my kid also, she is only 8 y old and loves piano
I remember when my friend's dad took a "vacation to Florida". More like a vacation with the fishies in his cement overshoes! 🤣🤣Oh, Adam should've never looked in that room. That's too bad, he was a good cohost.
GALA. Thanks for this. I took up piano in 2019 as my New Year Resolution and came across your podcast almost two years’ later and listened back through all episodes. It taught me so much and exposed me to a whole lot more that went over my head, but continues to echo. You taught me the most important thing is to listen, to practice-as you stress here-to try playing by ear, even when it seems impossible, and so much more. This episode today is also very relevant. A comment from someone in my online music community drew my attention to how stressed my hands were, so I’ve been watching the hand movements of my reference players-professionals and friends-more closely and really focussing on technique. This has brought a new perspective to my warmup scales and other exercises (I follow the advice to do the more mundane stuff first, though occasionally jump in to playing, as Adam, I think it was, advised to sometimes simulate sitting down to perform to an audience with no chance to warmup). Now it’s a case of patience, but most days I feel my hands are moving closer to the way I imagine they should. So, thanks for the years of advice. It is much appreciated. I keep listening and understand more as time goes by.
as with any other science or art, if you take it up seeking fame and glory and recognition, the muses will evade you. once you have a purpose outside of yourself, the inspiration comes with uncanny aptitude. this was Bill Evans' approach. he believed that treating the art forms faithfully will give you greater freedom. he was somewhat retreating from fame because he was aware of the ways in which fame can halt artistic growth if not introduce a pressure to tailor the work to the doting public, encapsulating and packaging the music for profit. to be honest, Cotrane's ideas were most profound when he was a sideman. sure, everyone's gonna remind us that his compositions as a leader are genius. they are without a doubt; but where did Coltrane end up? a third of his set was one song that was in demand for its charm, not its innovations. he was running around with the free jazz enthusiasts and all the folkways that Coltrane had extended were discarded for a frenzied, nihilistic hypothesis, since rejected. not to be controversial, but when Shorter died, there was nary a video that noticed the vast and uncanny work he did before becoming a boss.
After watching this episode I checked out Betty Carter on CZcams and found a video of her in Vienna singing Hoagy Charmichael's "The Nearness of You", accompanied by a very young Peter Martin. Very cool, and what a wonderful opportunity so early in your career! Was it made possible in part because of the networking practice? Loved it!
I think consistency and patience pretty much go hand in hand. Never liked the whole being 'humble' thing, it's so often used in an ingratiating, insincere, virtue-signalling fashion. I prefer to think of it in terms of not being arrogant or thinking you know it all, ever - both within yourself, but also especially towards other people.
1. Technics matter, even more than Teisco or Kawai 2. You should use Monk, Simone, Jamal, Ra and Jarrett as reference points. Davis "if you must"... at least, that's what I heard. 3. Become a crackhead about practicing, which sometimes means your practice routine might be f'd up, but at least you're practicing SOMETHING, and a stopped clock is right twice a day! 4. Your jealous angry family will sabotage your instrument and practice time. Meet better people, and hang out with THEM instead. Be aggressive about meeting people - old people LOVE it when you aggressively exploit your relationships, but still, you should give back too. It's almost like a friendship. 5. Humility matters [wait, tho - I have double standards... so, my standards are already twice as good as other people's!] 6. I was in a hurry so I skipped #6
And funnily enuff, today's a "crackhead practice" day - it's improv with the digipiano plugged into a bunch of fx pedals day... which is my favorite day. If anything productive happens by accident, that's okay too.
No, I'm not smoking actual crack, and you shouldn't, either. It's literally a waste of time and money and brain cells. I'm using the term as a metaphor for "the opposite of a guided, sane practice routine that makes sense". That scenery can go well with greenery, but please, stay far away from actual crack. It really ruins lives. Since I joked about it, I felt the need for this disclaimer, because I don't want to give anyone any excuse to move towards that miserable circumstance in real life. Drink some red bulls if you have to, or get a coffee, instead.
As a black man who has experienced all the racist indignities and injustices of Amerikkka, i don't have the luxury of being "humble". Totally understand why Miles told the world to kiss his ass.
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I really loved this segment, Peter, thank you. It was a little depressing too, as I am 67 years old and could have used all this wonderful advice when i was starting out, or even halfway through my career. Sadly some of this comes much too late for me to utilize. I hope some of the younger musicians out there take all your advice to heart and make the most of it. I'm a drummer first, who switched to vibes and now am learning keyboards so I love everything you and Adam have to offer. It has helped me learn so much and also really enjoy what I learn! Thank you! 🙂
I’m late to the party, but this was great. Thanks for your wisdom Peter! Sometimes the best advice are things you already know deep down, and you just need someone to validate and clarify them. Found myself saying “Omg you’re so right!” throughout this video.
Thanks so much! Very encouraging. I got to see you live about 25 years ago with Wynton in Arcata, Ca. From the wings! That was one of the first times I saw playing of that level right in front of me. Patience indeed!
Impeccable speech !! Your linear playing is so fresh, creative, and fine and precise in both rhythm and dynamics. 1) Technique Matters !! 2) Reference points (mentors)..Nina Simone !! 3) Consistency matters !! (Yah gotta show up). Micro break throughs.. 4) Network matters..musical information mentor ship).. Network effect !! Pay it forward!! 5) Humilitymatters...throughout..!! Serve the music !! through humility....very important ..6) Patience matters..consistency.. humility/patience. Longer view... Amazing outline, exquisitely presented. This channel should be in the know by all music colleges teaching jazz and improv. Peter Martin manages to integrate all these wonderfully explained points and lives these points through his music and brilliant playing. So good and inspiring Peter !!!
This was the kick in the butt I needed to start practicing again, thanks!
Thanks for exemplifying "showing up" with the reliability of this podcast, as well as "being there" for our network. I didn't make any music for three days. Thanks for the encouragement to keep striving for consistency!
The showing up thing is everything. Much of what You'll Hear It talks about is for people who have already done the basics so it was good to hear this.
For people more on the beginning end of the scale, like me, I think a really important concept is that "repetition is magic".
So "showing up" means:
1. I can't play this
2. break it into small chunks and repeat it like crazy
3. put the chunks together and repeat that like crazy
4. now I can play it
Sometimes you come back the next day and it feels like magic that you can now play it.
Repetition is powerful because it takes something that is difficult and breaks it into simple repetitive pieces, which is maybe boring, but is not difficult.
Maybe this is obvious, but I feel like it is not talked about enough, at least for beginners..
Probably Peter spent hours, and hours and hours on this. Experts like him rarely talk about that part of the journey.
BTW I am working on some of the Open Studio courses and they are great. The guided practice sessions are great.
That showing up bit was beautiful. The universe will conspire to help you but you gotta be there when it does. You gotta show up for that. Much love brother 🙏
Showing up is a big part of the message of the book "The War of Art" …or that is what I got out of my readthrough.
Thank you for sharing all yhis feelings... not easy to put it in words , that was great ! We will share to my kid also, she is only 8 y old and loves piano
I remember when my friend's dad took a "vacation to Florida". More like a vacation with the fishies in his cement overshoes! 🤣🤣Oh, Adam should've never looked in that room. That's too bad, he was a good cohost.
GALA. Thanks for this. I took up piano in 2019 as my New Year Resolution and came across your podcast almost two years’ later and listened back through all episodes.
It taught me so much and exposed me to a whole lot more that went over my head, but continues to echo.
You taught me the most important thing is to listen, to practice-as you stress here-to try playing by ear, even when it seems impossible, and so much more.
This episode today is also very relevant. A comment from someone in my online music community drew my attention to how stressed my hands were, so I’ve been watching the hand movements of my reference players-professionals and friends-more closely and really focussing on technique.
This has brought a new perspective to my warmup scales and other exercises (I follow the advice to do the more mundane stuff first, though occasionally jump in to playing, as Adam, I think it was, advised to sometimes simulate sitting down to perform to an audience with no chance to warmup).
Now it’s a case of patience, but most days I feel my hands are moving closer to the way I imagine they should.
So, thanks for the years of advice. It is much appreciated. I keep listening and understand more as time goes by.
#5!! Having humility and being humble. Indeed! Humble yourself to, and serve, the music. Thank you!! Cheers!
GALA - loved it.
Peter ! Every single point is right on .Thank you for your 32 years of musical wisdom .
Probably my favorite episode so far. Very motivating. Thanks, Peter!
One of your best Peter! "Straight 'atcha" wisdom, from a master craftsman. GALA!
this is one of the most important videos for all musicians.
Thanks. Advice that's so well structured. You've reframed discipline, a word most of us are allergic to, with consistency and patience. Genius.
Thank you so much Peter 🙏 You're one of the best teachers and players I've known
as with any other science or art, if you take it up seeking fame and glory and recognition, the muses will evade you. once you have a purpose outside of yourself, the inspiration comes with uncanny aptitude. this was Bill Evans' approach. he believed that treating the art forms faithfully will give you greater freedom. he was somewhat retreating from fame because he was aware of the ways in which fame can halt artistic growth if not introduce a pressure to tailor the work to the doting public, encapsulating and packaging the music for profit. to be honest, Cotrane's ideas were most profound when he was a sideman. sure, everyone's gonna remind us that his compositions as a leader are genius. they are without a doubt; but where did Coltrane end up? a third of his set was one song that was in demand for its charm, not its innovations. he was running around with the free jazz enthusiasts and all the folkways that Coltrane had extended were discarded for a frenzied, nihilistic hypothesis, since rejected. not to be controversial, but when Shorter died, there was nary a video that noticed the vast and uncanny work he did before becoming a boss.
Agreement adhered to. Great stuff Peter, thank you!
Amazing. Thank you Peter. I’ll be listening to this over and over again, I’m sure.
32 minutes long, nice. Thanks Peter!
Love you guys
Great advice Peter 🎉🎉🎉
A beautiful summary of key points in being a committed musician. I will share with my students. Thank you from Melbourne Australia.
Thank you Peter!
Thank you!! From Mexico city
This humble thing sounds nice
You're a world class teacher. Thank you. 🙏 GALA
Loved this ... thanks Peter!
Great show. I've taken into account several of these points and this solidified it for me.
Gala - really enjoy your advices!
Thank you, this is fantastic stuff, Peter!
I want this T-shirt. 😄
Wonderful advice, thanks!
❤thank you brother P
Thanks for the excellent tips Peter
After watching this episode I checked out Betty Carter on CZcams and found a video of her in Vienna singing Hoagy Charmichael's "The Nearness of You", accompanied by a very young Peter Martin.
Very cool, and what a wonderful opportunity so early in your career! Was it made possible in part because of the networking practice? Loved it!
Good. Thank you.
Daily dose of music advice and inspiration received. Level up! gala
Maestro!!! ❤❤❤
This was really inspiring!
Great ep
Amazing stuff
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I think consistency and patience pretty much go hand in hand. Never liked the whole being 'humble' thing, it's so often used in an ingratiating, insincere, virtue-signalling fashion. I prefer to think of it in terms of not being arrogant or thinking you know it all, ever - both within yourself, but also especially towards other people.
1. Technics matter, even more than Teisco or Kawai
2. You should use Monk, Simone, Jamal, Ra and Jarrett as reference points. Davis "if you must"... at least, that's what I heard.
3. Become a crackhead about practicing, which sometimes means your practice routine might be f'd up, but at least you're practicing SOMETHING, and a stopped clock is right twice a day!
4. Your jealous angry family will sabotage your instrument and practice time. Meet better people, and hang out with THEM instead. Be aggressive about meeting people - old people LOVE it when you aggressively exploit your relationships, but still, you should give back too. It's almost like a friendship.
5. Humility matters [wait, tho - I have double standards... so, my standards are already twice as good as other people's!]
6. I was in a hurry so I skipped #6
You can say this list is dumb, and you wouldn't be lying, but writing it out in this way WILL help me internalize the actual bullet points
And funnily enuff, today's a "crackhead practice" day - it's improv with the digipiano plugged into a bunch of fx pedals day... which is my favorite day. If anything productive happens by accident, that's okay too.
No, I'm not smoking actual crack, and you shouldn't, either. It's literally a waste of time and money and brain cells. I'm using the term as a metaphor for "the opposite of a guided, sane practice routine that makes sense". That scenery can go well with greenery, but please, stay far away from actual crack. It really ruins lives. Since I joked about it, I felt the need for this disclaimer, because I don't want to give anyone any excuse to move towards that miserable circumstance in real life. Drink some red bulls if you have to, or get a coffee, instead.
🎹🎶🎵🙏🙏🙏🎹💫
As a black man who has experienced all the racist indignities and injustices of Amerikkka, i don't have the luxury of being "humble".
Totally understand why Miles told the world to kiss his ass.