2024 Rossignol Forza 70 V-Ti SkiEssentials com Ski Test

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  • čas přidán 6. 09. 2023
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Komentáře • 46

  • @DannyStarr1976
    @DannyStarr1976 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I tried the master ski this weekend at a demo day and it was really really fun.

  • @gregmcgrath4859
    @gregmcgrath4859 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Great review. I fully concur. I got a pair for the Australian season this year. Lots of fun, great on ice, in soft bumps, fast edge to edge, real fun ski with lots of typical Rossi rebound. I’m almost your size and found the 173 perfect for me, whereas all my other skis are at least 180.

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Glad you like them! Never thought I'd like a 173 more than a 181 in any ski.

  • @Skedawg88
    @Skedawg88 Před 2 měsíci

    Good review. I may purchase.

  • @user-ni5co7td1n
    @user-ni5co7td1n Před 6 měsíci

    Hi. I had a chance to demo the 60 last season at 171 and had a blast on them. I want to purchase a the 70's but you found them to be sweet at 173 it worries me at 5 11 and weighing in at 185lbs. Any thoughts? BTW your guys reviews rock!

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Sounds good to me! I think the 70 works great in the 173 for a wide variety of skiers.

  • @davidxu2044
    @davidxu2044 Před 3 měsíci

    Love your content! I was wondering the choice between a Forza 70 or the Q9 for a one quiver ski. I am a pretty advanced skier that loves to carve with high speeds, mid to large turns, in Europe on groomers or hacked up snow, with occasional (frankly quite rare) times of off piste, powder and woods. What would you recommend?

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Před 3 měsíci

      I'm impressed with the versatility of the Forza 70, even though it's a bit lighter duty in than the Q9, especially on the groomers. The weight is a bit different as well, with the Forza coming in slightly lighter than the Atomic. I like the Forza for more all-mountain skiing while the Q9 has more of a race by-product in terms of snow feel.

  • @Thomas-se3tb
    @Thomas-se3tb Před 3 měsíci

    Hey man what do you think size wise for me? I'm an advanced skier at 6 foot 1, 160 pounds. I grew up racing and currently ski on the 2019 soul 7 172s. They are my all mountain do everything ski.
    I'm trying to find a carver to add to the collection. I love making quick slalom turns but also enjoy a variety of wider turns as well. I'm trying to find a great carver for those former days that's not as stiff as my old race skis. Think this would be a good addition? Do you think the 173 would be a nice length? Or too short?

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Před 3 měsíci

      I'm 6/2 225 and I prefer the 173 to the 181. You're taking advantage of the ski's turning ability without losing much in terms of stability. These skis are meant to turn, and it's not about how fast you go straight, it's about how fast you go in a carve.

  • @satxfacti0n
    @satxfacti0n Před 5 měsíci

    How does it compared with the discontinued Hero Elite Plus Ti? I can see some similarities (78mm, similar lengths and radius), not sure about the stiffness especially for the front of the ski.

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Před 5 měsíci +2

      The Hero was a bit stiffer. This makes the Forza surprisingly versatile in my experience--it's a great softer snow ski, and I can't say the same about a lot of other mid to upper 70's front side skis. I love the wider shovel, lighter weight, and predictable flex of the Forza 70. It feels livelier than the Hero Elite.

  • @nikolausulreich1547
    @nikolausulreich1547 Před 7 měsíci

    Hi, how would you compare it to my Hero Elite ST 1,72m.. Is it more a fun and easier ski than the Hero for an good intermidate or rather advanced skier?
    Hope I can try them this seson.

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Před 7 měsíci +1

      The ST shares a lot more with a race slalom ski while the Forza is a high end recreational carver. In this light, I find the Forza to be a lot more approachable and versatile than the ST. For intermediates and advanced skiers, I think there's an increase in overall and all-around performance with the Forza. It's not more difficult to ski than the ST, it just does more things well.

  • @rs3745
    @rs3745 Před 5 měsíci

    Great video! What size should i go? Im 172cm and an advanced skier. Thanks!

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Před 5 měsíci

      I'd go with the 163 in that ski. I think the 173 might be on the long side, especially if you're looking to take advantage of the sharp-turning capabilities of this ski. I'm 188 cm and loved the 173 more than the 181, so there's precedent for downsizing here.

    • @rs3745
      @rs3745 Před 5 měsíci

      Thank you!

  • @Yarus023
    @Yarus023 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Hi. How would you compare these to the Head Supershape e-Rally?

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Před 8 měsíci +2

      The weight is the biggest difference. The 70 feels quite a bit lighter and more agile on the feet versus the more planted Rally. I put a bunch of time on both this winter and even at 78 mm underfoot and front side skis, they are quite different. If you're looking for some more versatility to your skis, the Rossignol has a better upside, but for more of a stable and damp feel, the Rally is tough to beat at this range.

    • @davidedwards7594
      @davidedwards7594 Před 8 měsíci

      I want to demo the Forza 70 Master in a 173. Took a few runs on the 181 last year and it was stable but felt long.

  • @jimt1575
    @jimt1575 Před 6 měsíci

    Do you recommend detuning the tips and tail from the factory?? Thanks.

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Před 5 měsíci +2

      they will not likely be detuned from the factory. I'd be prepared to do it out of the plastic, but leave it alone otherwise. Great skis!

    • @Skedawg88
      @Skedawg88 Před 2 měsíci

      @@SkiEssentialsYep. Get out the gummi stone.

  • @Krogort
    @Krogort Před 5 měsíci +1

    How do these compare to the Rossi Hero Elite MT ? they seem very similar

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Před 5 měsíci

      The 60 is more similar to the MT than the 70. Between the 70 and the MT, the turn radius is slightly longer in the MT and there's more metal in the 70 than the MT, along with more dramatic lack of taper.

  • @sstoican1
    @sstoican1 Před 5 měsíci

    How do these compare to the Elan Primetime line and will you guys be doing a review of them ?

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Před 5 měsíci

      We need to spend some more time on the Primetime to make a thorough evaluation/comparison. I can tell you that the Forza was one of the most fun skis I was on last year, and was surprised at how well it carved, but also kind of liked the versatility and softer snow performance due to the wider shovel! Nice when things work out!

    • @sstoican1
      @sstoican1 Před 5 měsíci

      Thank you for the quick response!

  • @ianrex3489
    @ianrex3489 Před 4 měsíci

    Bob, I got on the 70 in a 181cm at Cannon and was left speachless...and made me ready to shop! I'm 6'0" and 200 lbs, and so I trust that your own clear preference for the 174cm means the 70 is plenty stable on ugly slippery stuff. But about this video, I was loving your turns but in the second on-mtn clip @5:33 looks like you're acually on the Hero...it's got the big rooster on the tip. Can you let me know what you were feeling when on that Hero? I've read that the Hero Elite ST has got more pop from the tail... Thank you. ...oh, and then there's the Forza 70 Master! -- hmm. Have you been on that?

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Před 4 měsíci

      Awesome! The ski shown was likely the Prologue graphic which is not the sale graphic. Haven't skied the Master yet--can only assume it's a lot more strong given the ash core and race plate. Not sure I need all that ski.

    • @ianrex3489
      @ianrex3489 Před 3 měsíci

      I'm mulling over the Stokli AS and Forza 70. Do either of these have more POP into the next short turn? And can you tell how these 2 are when I want to break out of this style and open up with bigger turns at speed and in Spring crud. I really appreciate how thorough you anf Jeff are.

  • @jongdg
    @jongdg Před 4 měsíci

    Have you heart any reviews from lighter weight skiers? I'm about 5'4" 125lbs and would obviously go with the 163 length.

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Amazingly, not particularly. I think the sizing sounds right, and I don't see any reason why they wouldn't work great for you.

  • @Terry-jt8wt
    @Terry-jt8wt Před 4 měsíci

    Hi, great review. I am 176cm strong intermediate. Full front side grummer skier. Forza 70 163 or Nordica Steadfast 85 162cm. Txs

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Před 4 měsíci

      I think the Steadfast will have more to offer you based on your stats and application. The Forza is great but is a bit on the sharp and crisp side vs. the rounder Steadfast.

  • @phisherman5427
    @phisherman5427 Před 7 měsíci +1

    How do these compare to the Experience 82 TI?

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Před 7 měsíci +3

      The Experience doesn't have the tip to tail edge contact that the Forza 70 has. The Forza is narrower and has a sharper shape to it, making it a better choice for on-piste carving. While it has some surprising off-trail capabilities, it's still nowhere near the versatile ski that the Experience is. The Experience also feels heavier with two full sheets of metal and a thicker overall core profile.

    • @pablovagnor9588
      @pablovagnor9588 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@SkiEssentials...... would you compare these to the Deacons , awesome ski, but. It was fun if there's any chomp or Midwest/east crud no bueno

  • @jurisovcinnikovs1535
    @jurisovcinnikovs1535 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I am 179 cm tall, which would be more suitable 163 cm or 173 cm?

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Před 6 měsíci +1

      I'd go 173--that ski works great in that length.

  • @wojciechczupta9185
    @wojciechczupta9185 Před 4 měsíci

    how does it compare to Hero short turn / multi turn, in practice?

    • @SkiEssentials
      @SkiEssentials  Před 4 měsíci +1

      The Forza is lighter and more agile, and while that can take some speed off the top end, the middle power band is all there. With the wider shovel and tail, the Forza 70 hooks into the turn flawlessly and completes it with vigor. I always felt that the Hero skis were smooth and stable but not terribly energetic--this is where Forza gets a big performance bump in my book.

    • @wojciechczupta9185
      @wojciechczupta9185 Před 4 měsíci

      @@SkiEssentials thank you. I tried an old version of Multiturn together with salomon s/race rush and s/max 12 - Multiturn felt absolutely boring compared even o s/max.

  • @alfonsomoresi9348
    @alfonsomoresi9348 Před 7 měsíci +2

    You need to take some Italian lessons to correctly pronounce “Forza”, got on line and find an Italian language app. Forza Italia,