Why I Don’t Buy Guitar Branded Cleaning Kits
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with the exception of fretboard oil/cleaner, anybody who is into detailing their car, has as good or better stuff in their garage, and for a ton less money. paint is paint, choose if you want to polish it, wax it or put on a sealant. for the relic people, toss it down the driveway a few times, and dont worry about it!
I worked at Parker guitars in the 90's. They were cutting edge. . .and they were painted with PPG auto paint.
⚓️ Thanks Lefty 🌈 well said 🎶
Paint is not paint.
You can easily destroy nitrocellulose with the wrong cleaning product.
@@powbobs I agree … read the post… polyurethane & nitro-cellulose coatings were/are used for exterior & industrial applications. Diluted household cleaner supplies… window cleaner… dish soap… laundry soap… furniture finishes are totally suitable…. buying proprietary crap from stew Mac… lizard pee … is stoopid. Get over it ⚓️
Most car products are fine on most guitars. As a luthier I have seen several nitro finishes destroyed by polishes developed specifically for two pack resin finishes.
I've used automotive quick detailer spray to clean guitars for many years. Either spraying it on the guitar and wiping it off or spray it onto a clean cloth and then wipe. For the same price as the tiny guitar branded bottles you get at least 5X more juice. My preference is Meguiar's but, Mothers is good, too. Use high quality microfiber wipes or pure cotton.
I have always used Lemon Pledge polish, Murphy's oil soap for fretboard cleaning, and Old English Lemon oil for fretboard condition. To remove fine scratches on poly finishes or plastic parts, Meguiar's Scratch X does the trick. I have never had any issues with damage or build up.
I use Pledge and Old English lemon oil too. How’d you learn my secret?😂
@@bitburg40 cause' I'm poor lol
I’ll go with smart. I’m been using these on my guitars for nearly 40 years and they work great. I use the lemon oil not for cleaning but for a replacement for finger ease.@@edwardbelcher8612
Lemon pledge contains silicones. Will give you problems later on.
Thank you, and thanks to all who shared too.
Virtuoso....cleaner and polish....expensive, hard to find, but amazing product. Will take a satin finish and make it sheen to an almost gloss finish...if that's what you like. Nitro safe....using it for years.
The F One oil works really well! It goes a long way, too. I've only used it on darker fretboards so far, but it's done really well
Music Nomad Fretboard F-ONE Oil and Meguiar's Quik Detailer does the trick for me…. Thanks again Phillip for an informative video.
There was a sales rep back in the 60’s that would drink DDT to show how safe it was. Not sure how long he lived.
I use Music Nomad for most stuff, but I got two Ormsby guitars recently, and with the second one I bought their care pack, the polish, fretboard conditioner, and "speed wax" for the neck all rock. Def not disappointed there.
Parker & Bailey Furniture Cream. No bad odors/fumes. Gentle cleaner, does not leave a waxy residue. I have yet to find a fretboard oil that knocks the bobby sox off my old feet, and I've been a player for 62 years. Am considering going back to boiled linseed oil, which my brother and I used in his music store back in the early '70s, and I've pretty much tried everything. Well ... I used to use Formby's Lemon Oil and I really liked that. But of course ... they went south and stayed there, like the Canadian geese ...
Used the regular furniture polish from the store for decades..
I've always used S.C. Johnson's Pledge on my guitars over the past 25 years - excellent results . I worked in a chemistry lab for 8 years . I trust name brand products
nothing really wrong with Pledge on poly finishes as long as it's wiped very well to remove buildup. Lacquer is always a debate, because it don't entirely cure as a chemical induced reaction, & can be re-dissolved in its own solvent. I see no problem with Pledge on nitro as long as it doesn't contain lemon oil & conditioners
pledge works good
@@DE-GEN-ART Yes
Can you do a video on best refrigerator brands?
whether you realize it or not, you're playing the same "consumer confidence" game as the guitar companies by promoting what you personally prefer. In this case Nomad products. As a result some of your viewers will consider this, because they assume confidence in what you say. On any platform of products & opinions, marketing is always there somewhere
I don't have any nitro finish guitars, however, in a pinch one day i mixed a slightly over diluted Murphys Oil soap. Wiped it on with one cloth and wiped away the excess with a clean microfiber cloth. It worked so damn well, thats pretty much how i do it now. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS OK FOR NITRO, but for polly finishes its completely safe and works like a charm!
Naphtha, lighter fluid, is safe for nitro and works great.
Also. . . If you ALWAYS wash your hands before you play, your guitars will stay much cleaner and your strings will last a little longer!
Totally. I do the same before practicing and my bass strings do last about another month before I have to change or boil them.
Don't forget to wipe your strings down when you're done playing. That can buy them a little extra playing life.
Yeah, boys! Clean those Cheeto fingers!
@@donbishop6994 Yes, thank you! This is another great habit to develop. I also give them a cleaning with alcohol once or twice between string changes.
I agree, I use the nomad f-one oil on maple fretboard on occasion.....I always wash hands.....and no eating a bucket of fried chicken before practice!
The Gibson pump polish is very good stuff!
Lighter fluid has naphtha in it and does a great job cleaning of the gunky stuff.
Carnuba wax , and carnuba cleaner wax .. Mothers brand is what I use for painted bodies . For oiling fretboards, linseed or mineral oil .
Outside of lemon oil on rosewood and ebony (a drop max for the whole neck) I’m in the just damp but not wet cloth dried of almost straight away camp for sure. You just want to loosen grime and wipe it off. Polishing as a concept means to take a thin layer of the finish off usually. I just can’t see that being a great idea.
I have some Rotosound branded lemon oil for my laurel / rosewood fingerboards, because let's face it all lemon oil is just scented mineral oil, brand doesn't matter. Other than that, very fine steel wool for frets, slightly damp microfiber cloth for everything else.
A lightly water (or even saliva) moisted microfiber cloth is what l have ever used. It perfectly works for poly finish, l don’t know if it’s going to damage nitro finish since none of my guitars has this finish. I guess that any polish for car or furniture will also do the job for a fraction of the price of any dedicated guitar polish.
I like the scent of Martin Polish A guy in Arizona invented a guitar polish
called "Mr. Slick" it's made out of the juice from cole slaw and pepsi
It is really the best I have ever tried. EVER!
Music Nomad stuff is great. I own and use about 11 of their products = all well-thought-out. . . and work fantastic. Also, a great company to do business with.
Music Nomad polish is the best for me. No silicone. Mineral oil works well for fret board ,but only use a little bit. If you are really into keeping your guitar protected I also love ren wax. It is awesome ,but expensive.
I love the music nomad polish too. I used it to clean up several used guitars I got and by the time I was done, they were all shining and looking almost brand new. Also, I can’t remember if you’re supposed to, but I use it on the chrome too and it makes that nice and shiny too with no problems (so far)
Totally agree...
What is the best way to clean lacquered maple fretboards?
I've tried about dozen general finish cleaners, nothing compares to Gibson Pump Polish. It's safe for Satin, Nitro and Poly. It's what they actually use on the factory floor and was formulated by Gibson. A lot of others are third-party rebranded.
Bah. A can of "lemon Pledge" always worked for me. Acoustic, electric, fretboard, body, everything. Never did 'em a lick of harm.
Same here for 46 years!! Felt really slick after application.
What about Dunlop string cleaner, ive found if use on plain nickel strings, they last just as long as expensive coated strings
I use Taylor conditioner on my Taylor fretboards, otherwise I use F One on everything else (with dark wood fretboards).
I ued to watch people put Lemonm PLedge on their high end nice hand made wood furniture and always thought "so why is this ok for this, but not this?"
Ironically, I think the Gibson pump polish shown in the thumbnail is really good. I really like Music Nomad also and thats what I usually use but if I couldn't get it anymore I'd be fine with the Gibson polish, i think they have similar results and ease of use.
That's the same reason that Berkshire Hathaway (Warren Buffet) invested in BYD (Chinese Electric Vehicle company). When a guy went to go scout out the company, the CEO poured battery acid out into a cup and drank it. My takeaway is to drink your product if you want people to trust it...
I use Steinway spray polish. If it is good enough for a Steinway, it is good enough for me! For fretboard I use ordinary LemonOil.
Gibson polish is really good stuff for nitro finishes of all brands. Never found anything like it. True and tried
Fast Fret is the only product I buy that's specific to guitars. Sure, I've got some generic yellow stuff in a bottle that says lemon oil on it. But for maple fretboards I only use Fast Fret. It's all you need for any guitar.
Been using fast fret for 20 years. It’s the best for fretboards!
@@heatherwade2373 Makes strings last forever and stay in tune better. I believe it lubricates the the wound strings on a microscopic level. Similar to the coating they put on them, without dulling the tone. Tried coated strings once. Hated them. Fast Fret does the same thing without the frequency loss.
I had a customer who used an aggressive car polish on his USA tele for less than a year because "it made it look fantastic". I had it in the workshop for it's regular service and smelt ammonia when I opened the case. The nitro finish proceeded to literally crumble and fall off the neck as I handled it. It was ten years old at this point and had no dings. it suddenly looked like a part done heavy relic that smelt faintly of wee. One refinish later and he started using Dunlop products.
An "aggressive car polish" (I presume you're referring to the paste type) would, indeed, be a dumb idea.
@@user-fo5gk9ir7nIt was a liquid polish made for a specific two pack poly finish, not a paste. One of the chemicals reacted with the nitro-cellulose destroying the bond to the wood.
@@mark.guitar Wow, that IS a drag.
I prefer th EVH method - it is just wood 'n wire after all....
Nitrocelulose lacquer finishes ( Gibson USA ) requires a compatible cleaner -
Meguiars (sp) car detailer for regular maintenance. Works as good on you guitar as it does on your car.
I think a Rig Rundown showed that Mike Campbell does not have his fretboards cleaned either.
Out of all the cleaner kits and guitar polish the music nomad was crap and the old Gibson spray in the orange and white bottle was the best. My nitro guitars didn't like music nomad clean polish as it looked more dirty than before cleaning it😂 The best polish for when it's clean already is Maguire high glass like polish.
I lay my Strat in the bath once a month . Make sure its hot and use plenty of bubble bath , DO NOT use uncoated strings though , as they sometimes rust if you leave it in too long 😂 I wanted to buy Lizard Spit but couldnt find any , so i got my dog to spit and it works 😂
Bingo! Electric guitar with maple board? Pledge! Rosewood Board? Orange Glo! .....Scratched or cloudy pickguard? Mother's or Turtle Wax headlight lens restorer liquid! Ba-da-bing!
just get a damp micro fiber cloth.
Naphtha to clean. Rennaissance wax to seal and protect. Bee Good oil for the fretboard.
spray guitar with krylon outdoor paint and just hose it off with dish soap or Bronner's
If they don't disclose their ingredients, it's because you already have them all at home for much cheaper and don't know it.
Gibson is polish is a great idea to keep it simple for people who have no idea……That said, I just use Music Nomad products or any reputable brand
I like the smell Gibson polish leaves on the guitar.
Yup - as others have said, I use car products on all my guitars, nitro included. MUCH less expensive and gives you one less thing to buy.
I always heard that zz tops bass player Never changed his bass strings..? Wonder if that was true?.. pex
He don't have money all the time. That's the reason mate.
Why I don't buy branded cleaning products!
Because I'm not a thick American!
⚓️ Thanks Phill 🌈 Polyurethane & Nitro-cellulose are the predominant finishes used on most guitars, the manufacturer will specify when queried. GUYS!!! Polyurethane & Nitroxxx are bombproof… impervious to household cleaners 🎶 don’t use abrasives 🎶 polys are used on floors & boat exterior, nitros were used on cars prior to the early ‘50s. Point being… ANY household cleaner… glass cleaner… dish soap … laundry soap… DILUTED way down… won’t hurt the guitar. Wipe that crap off… use some furniture polish… even floor polish … won’t hurt a thing… HOW DO YOU THINK MANUFACTURING IS SO UBIQUITOUS??? The process is not rocket science. Neither is the finishing. Why do you think the cleaner guys don’t tell what’s in the crap they sell? BECAUSE ITS DILUTED GLASS CLEANERS!!! Get over yourself 🥸
I wouldn’t suggest this approach for real nitro finishes. Older Gibsons for example can get a really hazy look if you don’t use (or use too much) of the right polish.
@@kristopherk5454 Don’t use polishes on that old stuff. The moisture in the wood & other environmental factors add up to an unstable mess. But for cleaning the diluted glass cleaner used sparingly is just as affective as lizard pe or stew mmax goop.
Dr Ducks 100%
I suspect a lot of these preparations are nothing more than repackaged auto polish.
Spit. That’s it. Even on the fretboard
People who never clean their instruments are disgusting. Then they come to me and expect me to do a repair or setup with layers of sticky gunk
i agree, Eddie will never make it
Gibson polish sucks. Save some money on fretboard oil. Big bottle of food grade mineral oil at Lowe's or Hope Depot. Less than $10. Last forever.
or vegetable oil
if you clean your hands prior to playing you shouldn't need more than breath and a soft cloth to keep your guitar clean. if you get a haze due to your finger and hand oil, you can use naphtha. easy and cheap!