After making this video there was a patch that added - the pyromane cannot starve itself out by using the fuel ability. It must have at least 10 food to use the ability now. - Also this "Scaled Pyromane's fire dash damage by 0.25 of melee damage, to prevent higher level melee always outperforming dash special ability" but it hasnt been added to unofficial servers yet so im not exactly sure what it means by 0.25 of melee damage IMPRINT does nothing for the burn damage so have fun mutating melee *skull emoji* Didn't have enough time to figure out how to optimally tame so here's a video from another gamer on how to correctly tame: czcams.com/video/09CBQz9cE1I/video.html and here's a video on how to cheese the tame: czcams.com/video/UYfbciiLLwE/video.html&lc=UgyKTbPISt9lEmLASNJ4AaABAg.A4O4FXUXS9HA4O56tDcx0w Tamed Spawn code admincheat gmsummon "Firelion_Character_BP_C" 150
Great and detailed video! When i saw how lang the video was i thought that you would just fill the phrases with some useless shit but not, it was really good and really usefull
Don't need views. Just need money lmao. Takes a lot of time to figure out all the little stuff but most people dont even care about the little stuff. Other youtuber understand this, so they throw out unedited surface level content, that may have misinformation, since it's more profitable.
@@Doth_ throw some of that low effort click bait in every other video then bro, if it boosts your numbers and gets you that £€$. I'll watch it xD just keep up this good content man, because this is what it's all about. Thanks for all the effort, it doesn't go unnoticed by everyone!
Im glad there finally getting interesting with creatures its a shame they had to use so much of a shadowmane remake to do it but i hope they add more especially something that can be used in the ocean since i seem to spend almost all my time in there.
I hate how they made such a cool creature but then ruined it with being paid and OP af. Really hard to have a true appreciation for them when all i can see when i look at them is how much the devs dont care or dont realize they're killing the game
Yeah it does absolutely too much. They should just get rid of the burn damage entirely, and I think it becomes much easier to stomach. Still full of utility but won't be meta defining
@@Doth_ bro, I don't know what you did in your server settings, but that is not the correct burn damage. You have it jacked up somehow. It does not do that much.
Also having a pyro on your shoulder while riding one of the other gender will get you the mate boost making it quite convenient to increase your dps. Of course that would mean you cant pop it on your shoulder as you cant have one on each shoulder.
I think the fire/lava resistance is much stronger than the fire demage. At the point where it got 2500% melee, the fire would just be some additional demage. Literally every dps Dino with 2500 melee destroyed everything… giga, Chatham, rhino, ther. But having this mount on ur shoulder as a tek flame bob, and once ur opponent is flaming back u just mount and are invincible while u can still flam the other person, gonna be meta. BTW its immune against the dragon fire too. Also the shoulder mount thing is a nice idea, but I thing it should have been a feature on a full pve tame. Not on some thing that people use in pvp. It’s just doesn’t fit the official cryopod meta that they themselves introduced, even no one asked for it.
I tamed the first on with a melee char, prim flak, pike and luring it in the water near some wild dinos on the shore. Once player got experienced with it, it’s gone be one of the first tames like a Argi.
Yeah the shoulder thing is definitely the main problem. It will kill you in 5 seconds but last 30. But also as a shoulder mount it will kill any carnivores and any flier that picks you from your shoulder too. The fact that there is a counter to it is good but since it counters itself is just so lame because that means everyone has to run it. It's degenerative to the game
Its one of the fastest live births. Similar to shadowmanes, on 1x a pregnancy is around 2 hours, compared to 4ish on Thylas and the typical 8hr on other live births. We're already working on Melee thats 55+pts into it on official lol.
Hey Doth, great work, a few extra questions maybe if you have tested since: 1. If a player bola's you can you ride the pyromane instantly, avoiding being stuck on the ground and now on a mount? 2. Say you're out and about on a pyromane and you have flame absorbed, you notice an enemy coming to pick you, can you turn it into a shoulder pet (while in aggro) and get picked and it flames the enemy off like a normal flamethrower does? thanks alot man, if you haven't tested these I will be soon... these just popped up in my head after watching the video.
1. If youre bolad it doesnt let you turn it into the big pyromane. If someone tries to weight gapple your big pyromane you can turn it small and it puts the weight on you but it halves it like shoulder pets do. THEN if you arnt weighted you can pull the enemy since the grapple is on the pyromane and not you If someone grapples you and you have a pyromane on your shoulder DO NOT turn it big. It bugs you out so you and the pyro cant move at all till you log off 2. No you cant burn players on the back of saddles with anything besides the dash
Definitely my favorite creature right now, this is insane for base/cave defense, If i breed a bunch of these, no one is going to be able to tank my turrets anymore bc any tank will be burned to death with the pyromane inflame buff 😂 the best part is that burns riders too and goes through armor
Too op in so many different ways. “I just healed 500 health” had me saying “Yeah, F snail games.” This creature is the reason ASA is even more of a scam, in case Tea Tribe abusing power, ASA being as glitched as old ark on release, and the rest of the issues weren’t already showing this. I wish WildCard actually could make this game good instead of making stuff like P2W creatures. This is a sign of where ARK is going. I am sure the damage numbers and such were specifically so Snail Games can abuse them.
It’s worth 5 dollars but if you don’t want it don’t buy it’s easier then Phoenix and probably my favorite mount in the game and u can tame on day one just jump in water and pike from underneath it can’t hit while swimming
I dont reallt think that they are going to nerf the Pyromane bc is a premium creature, so any bad nerf they give to it will affect the amount of sales that the Pyromane will give to them, remember that is a SINGLE creature, if Wilcard does a bad move with this, probably no one will want to keep buying the Pyromane
@@mantk1123 Really? Lmao Edit: they only "nerfed" the damage that the Fire Dash ability does with the impact by scaling it to 0,25 of melee damage but if you build the 10 stacks there is no problem when you want to kill riders bc they are still going to die pretty fast, and they fixed some bugs the Pyromane had (like being able to ride it in his kitten form) They know that If they made this creature useless or nerf it hard like the Rhynio, the sales are going to fall from a cliff
I was sick of people telling me idk what im talking about when saying this creature was pay to win so i put my money where my mouth was and tested it and its most definitely pay to win. Also their poop is super fert.
No, they can. By that logic any game you buy wouldn't nerf anything because we bought it. Look at all the tames that got nerfed in the paid DLC's for ase or the items
yeah it's pretty normal practice for games to release an op dlc so people buy it and then they nerf it. ASA hasnt balanced anything in a long time though so I think they are just going to make this game a sandbox of op crap and call it a day. Hope im wrong
If you are one of the ark players that refuses to encourage pay to win mechanics - I applaud you. You have honour. Unlike this creator who encourages pay to win by supporting it.
After making this video there was a patch that added
- the pyromane cannot starve itself out by using the fuel ability. It must have at least 10 food to use the ability now.
- Also this "Scaled Pyromane's fire dash damage by 0.25 of melee damage, to prevent higher level melee always outperforming dash special ability" but it hasnt been added to unofficial servers yet so im not exactly sure what it means by 0.25 of melee damage
IMPRINT does nothing for the burn damage so have fun mutating melee *skull emoji*
Didn't have enough time to figure out how to optimally tame so here's a video from another gamer on how to correctly tame: czcams.com/video/09CBQz9cE1I/video.html
and here's a video on how to cheese the tame: czcams.com/video/UYfbciiLLwE/video.html&lc=UgyKTbPISt9lEmLASNJ4AaABAg.A4O4FXUXS9HA4O56tDcx0w
Tamed Spawn code
admincheat gmsummon "Firelion_Character_BP_C" 150
Has anyone figured out what the update means?
One use for the poop could be instant cure for leeches? Haha small use but "a" use lol
This guy out here with the most in depth and accurate ark info there is! The hero the community needed not the one we deserved
Back in my day we just had lil monkies that threw poo at eyes.
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Alright grandpa
I recently found out that they are also on scorched earth. It's in the Wyvern Rift in the Lava River.
He is also immune to Dragon Boss's fire.
Great and detailed video! When i saw how lang the video was i thought that you would just fill the phrases with some useless shit but not, it was really good and really usefull
We got to get you more views man xD your content is head, neck and shoulders, above EVERY other ark "youtuber", they should all be ashamed.
Don't need views. Just need money lmao. Takes a lot of time to figure out all the little stuff but most people dont even care about the little stuff. Other youtuber understand this, so they throw out unedited surface level content, that may have misinformation, since it's more profitable.
@@Doth_ throw some of that low effort click bait in every other video then bro, if it boosts your numbers and gets you that £€$. I'll watch it xD just keep up this good content man, because this is what it's all about.
Thanks for all the effort, it doesn't go unnoticed by everyone!
Best in depth review I have seen. Well done.
Fantastic beasts is probably going to be the line of pay-to-play critters we have to look forward to
Im glad there finally getting interesting with creatures its a shame they had to use so much of a shadowmane remake to do it but i hope they add more especially something that can be used in the ocean since i seem to spend almost all my time in there.
I hate how they made such a cool creature but then ruined it with being paid and OP af. Really hard to have a true appreciation for them when all i can see when i look at them is how much the devs dont care or dont realize they're killing the game
It isn't OP as fuck. If you're so scared of them, just get a pack of microraptors. Dismount and shred.
Yeah it does absolutely too much. They should just get rid of the burn damage entirely, and I think it becomes much easier to stomach. Still full of utility but won't be meta defining
Delusional
@@Doth_ bro, I don't know what you did in your server settings, but that is not the correct burn damage. You have it jacked up somehow. It does not do that much.
@@gigaburgerer prove it
Also having a pyro on your shoulder while riding one of the other gender will get you the mate boost making it quite convenient to increase your dps. Of course that would mean you cant pop it on your shoulder as you cant have one on each shoulder.
Doesnt need nerfed. Needs buffed if anything. Should farm metal nodes with 90 percent weight reduction and smelt them.
Keep uploading you’re on a roll. Do Shastasuaraus next ;)
I think the fire/lava resistance is much stronger than the fire demage.
At the point where it got 2500% melee, the fire would just be some additional demage.
Literally every dps Dino with 2500 melee destroyed everything… giga, Chatham, rhino, ther.
But having this mount on ur shoulder as a tek flame bob, and once ur opponent is flaming back u just mount and are invincible while u can still flam the other person, gonna be meta.
BTW its immune against the dragon fire too.
Also the shoulder mount thing is a nice idea, but I thing it should have been a feature on a full pve tame. Not on some thing that people use in pvp. It’s just doesn’t fit the official cryopod meta that they themselves introduced, even no one asked for it.
I tamed the first on with a melee char, prim flak, pike and luring it in the water near some wild dinos on the shore. Once player got experienced with it, it’s gone be one of the first tames like a Argi.
Yeah the shoulder thing is definitely the main problem. It will kill you in 5 seconds but last 30. But also as a shoulder mount it will kill any carnivores and any flier that picks you from your shoulder too. The fact that there is a counter to it is good but since it counters itself is just so lame because that means everyone has to run it. It's degenerative to the game
Exactly, and it's op as a first tame. It gives you infinite fuel and you can run almost any cave right away
Its one of the fastest live births. Similar to shadowmanes, on 1x a pregnancy is around 2 hours, compared to 4ish on Thylas and the typical 8hr on other live births. We're already working on Melee thats 55+pts into it on official lol.
Also they need to add squirt guns to counter this thing. I mean they have flame throwers
The shovel from scorched that brings up a water spout should douse the pyromane but it doesn't
This thing is insane bro imagine a 1k one with flame boost gonna be killing a giga
Hey Doth, great work, a few extra questions maybe if you have tested since:
1. If a player bola's you can you ride the pyromane instantly, avoiding being stuck on the ground and now on a mount?
2. Say you're out and about on a pyromane and you have flame absorbed, you notice an enemy coming to pick you, can you turn it into a shoulder pet (while in aggro) and get picked and it flames the enemy off like a normal flamethrower does?
thanks alot man, if you haven't tested these I will be soon... these just popped up in my head after watching the video.
1. If youre bolad it doesnt let you turn it into the big pyromane.
If someone tries to weight gapple your big pyromane you can turn it small and it puts the weight on you but it halves it like shoulder pets do. THEN if you arnt weighted you can pull the enemy since the grapple is on the pyromane and not you
If someone grapples you and you have a pyromane on your shoulder DO NOT turn it big. It bugs you out so you and the pyro cant move at all till you log off
2. No you cant burn players on the back of saddles with anything besides the dash
@@Doth_ youre the man dude
Definitely my favorite creature right now, this is insane for base/cave defense, If i breed a bunch of these, no one is going to be able to tank my turrets anymore bc any tank will be burned to death with the pyromane inflame buff 😂 the best part is that burns riders too and goes through armor
Only the dash burns players. Also herbivores have a 60% damage reduction and stegos have an additional 50% damage reduction
@@Doth_so stego has 110% reduction? Sorry math isn't my strong suit
@@Actually2Good 100 damage x .6 x .5 = 20 damage
@@Doth_ thank you sir 🙏
What were they thinking man...😂
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Good detailed video
Great video fam i dont mind it being OP on PVE they threw us a bone
this is inconceivably stupid and an insult to ark players
Yeah :/
Too op in so many different ways.
“I just healed 500 health” had me saying “Yeah, F snail games.”
This creature is the reason ASA is even more of a scam, in case Tea Tribe abusing power, ASA being as glitched as old ark on release, and the rest of the issues weren’t already showing this.
I wish WildCard actually could make this game good instead of making stuff like P2W creatures.
This is a sign of where ARK is going.
I am sure the damage numbers and such were specifically so Snail Games can abuse them.
It’s worth 5 dollars but if you don’t want it don’t buy it’s easier then Phoenix and probably my favorite mount in the game and u can tame on day one just jump in water and pike from underneath it can’t hit while swimming
Yeah the most op thing is that damage numbers cap, hopefully they nerf at least that
I dont reallt think that they are going to nerf the Pyromane bc is a premium creature, so any bad nerf they give to it will affect the amount of sales that the Pyromane will give to them, remember that is a SINGLE creature, if Wilcard does a bad move with this, probably no one will want to keep buying the Pyromane
@@EJFM-vs7mo They already done it lol
@@mantk1123 Really? Lmao
Edit: they only "nerfed" the damage that the Fire Dash ability does with the impact by scaling it to 0,25 of melee damage but if you build the 10 stacks there is no problem when you want to kill riders bc they are still going to die pretty fast, and they fixed some bugs the Pyromane had (like being able to ride it in his kitten form)
They know that If they made this creature useless or nerf it hard like the Rhynio, the sales are going to fall from a cliff
@@EJFM-vs7mo Yeah but atleast they nerf one of the damages, we need to wait and hope for more nerfs lol
What are controls on console?
Question: for the heal, is it an ally heal, or is it ONLY for the pyromane? What about the rider as well?
Just got motivation to test and the heal ONLY heals the pyromane that built up the burn bar.
@@Doth_ Gotcha, okay!
Is it just me or does this thing come off as one of the strongest tames in the game. Would be too far to say it's a pay to win creature?
As much as i didn't want it to be, after testing and thinking, I'd say yes. It's just too good in too many spots
for ASA, yes. but in general including ASE. It was the giga.
Can someone PLEASE tell me the controls for the abilities on PS5? I’ve looked everywhere
I was sick of people telling me idk what im talking about when saying this creature was pay to win so i put my money where my mouth was and tested it and its most definitely pay to win.
Also their poop is super fert.
Is there weight reduction when its a shoulder pet?
yes and it has so much weight
Nah man, your burn damage is bugged. I've never seen the ticks go that high. Max damage I've seen is around 300 against a wild giga
Brother
Can they carry artis?
nope
These nutz v8
Does rain debuff it
Debuffs wild ones but not tamed ones
Surely they can't nerf something players have actually PAID for ???
No, they can. By that logic any game you buy wouldn't nerf anything because we bought it. Look at all the tames that got nerfed in the paid DLC's for ase or the items
yeah it's pretty normal practice for games to release an op dlc so people buy it and then they nerf it. ASA hasnt balanced anything in a long time though so I think they are just going to make this game a sandbox of op crap and call it a day. Hope im wrong
If you are one of the ark players that refuses to encourage pay to win mechanics - I applaud you. You have honour. Unlike this creator who encourages pay to win by supporting it.
I love pay to win! I encourage it about actually. I love how they are going towers pay to win
@@agentsmith7947 If you had to choose between paying to win and sucking on a dirty caulk again, which would you choose?
Oh well no need to tame anything else I guess.
basically
Stupidest thing ever added to Ark
Its cool. Just overtuned and can be nerfed. Not uncommon for game companies to release op stuff to sell dlc then nerf. We will see
@@Doth_ true i mean just look at League 😆
@@mochiboot6502 Exactly lol.
Your crazy. Adjust your server settings
Server settings don't change the mechanics of the creatures.
Oh look, the pay to win PoS 💩🖕