Dan Patrick Disagrees With Tom Brady Saying Rookie QB's Shouldn't Start Right Away | 8/20/24
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- Dan Patrick reacts to comments made by Tom Brady this weekend where he argued that rookie quarterbacks shouldn't start in the NFL right away
I'll trust Tom Brady's opinion over this guy.
Or you can have your opinion ?
You clearly are a Brady fanboy
Ignorance is bliss
@@alexshirley6096it doesn't take a brady fan boy to understand he knows way more about being an NFL QB than Dan Patrick
Sorry DP. Tom is right. Even if QB's are now coming in with more college starts they are still only college starts. The NFL is very different and I think we can trust TB when he declares something in real time about quarterbacks.
And it's not like he played in some bygone era either
Hmmm, think I'll listen to the guy who dominated for 20 years, with 7 rings, who is known as the greatest QB of all-time on this one.
Brady just saying that cause he doesn't want these kids being great out of college early challenging his career...he saw mahomes and realized this is the start
@@razkableExactly lol
Or you can have your own opinion?
Mahomes sat out his entire rookie year. He literally went through the structure Brady is suggesting and is successful because of it
Dan is not the only person disagreeing with Tom Brady. But Tom is not just some old guy who played the game once upon a time. Two years ago, he was still playing. He lived the past he lived the modern era. He played in arguably three errors of football. he started at the tail end of the Troy Aikman phase when defenses got away with just about any hit they wanted, to a little bit more protection, all the way to the modern era. He has seen it all, experienced it all.
In earlier eras, you had exceptional rookies. Dan Marino came out of the gate as a rookie and played awesome. Steve Young took a while to get his shot. Guys have always existed who could come out their rookie year and do something. But those are rarities.
People look at CJ Stroud and make the false conclusion that if CJ Stroud can do it, anybody else can do it. Josh Allen represents reality. he’s a great quarterback now, easily top five, but it took him a few years to get there.
I saw Jordan love Start when Aaron Rodgers had Covid. He looked awful. he finished last year’s season looking like a top 10 quarterback. Development takes time. these armchair sports talk guys who have never played the game at a serious level. Need to stop with their silly conclusions.
I know it's been talked about ad nauseam in Green Bay, not sure nationally, but they dumbed down the offense for Jordan Love after week 6, that's coincidentally when he got red hot
100% agree with Brady on this. He’s right.
I'm glad that Brady has a strong opinion. I strongly disagree with it but it is nice to see. For years he was pretty safe and boring with the media as a player. It will be interesting to see how he adjust to being more open. When you don't say much it's easy to avoid being disliked. When your job is talk it's a whole different ball game.
Good point
Dan Patrick is trying to use examples of guys who haven't played one NFL snap yet as examples of why guys should start right away. That makes no sense.
DP admits that NFL coaches use a more college-style offense to benefit rookie QB's, but he disagrees that rookie QB's need more development to play an NFL-style offense. Brady is saying that the QB's need more development before they start. If the QB's are put in a college-style offense, how is Brady wrong? Don't see it DP.
TOM BRADY is 100% Correct. Dan is WRONG. Also, the owners are paying these Rookies millions of millions of dollars, so they're asking for a return on their investment ASAP
Yeah, this journalist probably knows better than Tom fucking Brady lmfao
When I hear the word genius in sports I want to puke. Genius come on Dan. I guess anyone and everyone is a genius.
Well he has super rings if listen to him
Yeah the greatest QB of all time may know more about this than a guy on a radio show.
U simpin like that? How about the fact that Brady was, what, 2nd to last picked in his draft class, overall, AND the dead last QB picked AND he had to sit behind the #1 draft pick in his own class, Drew Bledsoe, and learn before he got his turn due to a bad injury.
Brady watchex, learned, and improved which lead to his ridiculous 7 rings. His journey should be the reason wby he should be listened to, not just the rings. Comparatively, Robert Horry got 7 rings in the NBA, if i remember correctly, but just focusing on rings in his situation when he was JUST a role playe, alho he hit big shots late in games during Finals/playoffs which helped get his rings would be goofy. His journey is unremarkable and not worth talking about...yet he has 7 rings just like Brady. Ha.
@@TreyIM22At least he’s understood the game. People in the media keep lauding Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, and Trevor Lawrence like their the next best QBs. It’s not that complicated if you’re want QBs to develop not just wins, but being consistent.
The last 7 mvp winners were all guys who didn’t start right away
If you put a qb out there before he’s ready it can be extremely detrimental to his development. It can stunt their growth a create a ceiling of competence that’s hard to break through.
College and the NFL aren't even the same game.
Seton bringing that HEAT as always
It’s subjective. If the QB is ready like Luck, Tannehill, Wilson, Carr, Burrow, and Herbert, start him. If they’re flawed at first but have special qualities, rest them the way KC & Green Bay rested Mahomes and Love respectively.
The hypocrisy of NFL Teams is that they play rookies possibly too soon while failing to realize that many of these players didn’t play much or were redshirted as college freshmen. If the latter can happen in college, the former can be reduced in the NFL.
I think it depends on the QB... Bo, Caleb and Jayden may be ready to play. Drake Maye probably should sit at least part of the season.
None of these rookie QBs will win a playoff game. Is the goal to win 8 games, or is the goal to win a Super Bowl?
Yes
Dan Patrick THATS WHAT TOM BRADY IS SAYING!!! It use to be that you played in college that going to the NFL was a step up in strength...but because the coaches need to have those rookie QB playing now the NFL schemes look more like college...That's why Brady said it was dumbed down... FRANKLY I WILL BELIEVE THE GUY WITH 10 SB appearances and 48 playoff appearances
Interesting how it feels like it's all about offense and the quarterback, but scoring has been down in the NFL the past few years
Dan's co host gets it! You'd figure Dan would, being it he's been covering the sport as long as he has 😂😂. Crazy!
Seton is an idiot you must be new here
Dan Patrick also thinks he’s a great actor.
Begging for role in movie 😂
@@markosekulic119 lol he really does
It’s a result of the current talent at the position. Dan isn’t wrong, and neither is Tom - i also think college football is better than it was when Tom played… these guys are ready.
Disagree with Dan. College is definitely preparing QBs for the pros but the speed of the game is vastly different and the schemes are much more complex. I feel like he is just saying that qbs should sit. Look at Mahomes, he sat for a year and the story was he barely got the hang of reading defenses in year 4. So yes rookie qbs have the offense dumbed down
Consequences of an instant gratification society. Short term > Long term
I agree and understand what Tom is saying, or atleast trying to say. Just cause u run around n make some plays doesn't mean yur ready. They struggle to read defenses n make proper checks at the line. The anticipatory throws are non-existant for the running QB. They run so much in college that the QB doesn't truly learn to play the position from the pocket.
He used to be above board in the 80's. Then slipped in the 90's. In the 2000 and 2010, just a shell. Just mailing it in. Paying 4 or 5 people.
Seaton is right. Dan got backed into a corner by seaton and Tom Brady. Knock it off Dan.
It feels like the Christian Laettner thing. About how kids should be in college longer and how NIL ruins the game. Like, he’s right but it’s just not going to go back to the way it was ever again so it’s moot. Good point about how the game was changed to fit these changes though. Pro style offenses, paid players. NFL is their 3rd year pro.
Why does Dan always act like an authority
Did Dan Patrick ever play football?🤣🤣🤣it's Brady's opinion that's it pretty simple
Very impressed with Belichik’s tv work…
Very detailed analysis for us fans.
Shows more personality.
Its not about the style , its more about the talent. Nfl is on a whole different level. Dan i disagree with your disagreement
I'm not the hugest Tom Brady fan but he's definitely right about this. The first few sentences of what Dan Patrick said in his video basically crew Tom's point. Dan Patrick literally said that the NFL now is different than it used to be and then started talking about players playing games in college and all that. Tom was talking about NFL games not college if you get drafted. Then u obviously played games...his point is that coaches have to dumb things down in order to have them "ready" to play fast vs in the passed where ud sit for a year or two behind a good qb then u go in. Dan must be drunk with how off he is
At the end of the day, the blame is on the fans. We expect too much from these rookies and already consider them a bust after couple of years. There are some exceptions, but going from college to the pros gotta be very challenging and a big learning curve.
They should sit at least the 1st half of rookie year. If you have an "Alex Smith"ish QB willing to show the rook how to prepare, then sit until the later part of the 1st year.
college same as pros ? Patrick dont see the inherent contradiction in his opinion?
Two opposite things can be true at the same time. For example, you can state that you think quarterbacks are better prepared coming out of college today than they were 20 years ago.
At the same time, they are playing with college players. These quarterbacks are in for a rude awakening when they face pro defenses.
Take a look at the landscape. Mac Jones national championship at Alabama. New England Patriots couldn’t give him away last year. They probably had to give draft picks to the team taking Mac Jones
Baker Mayfield, Matthew Stafford, and Jared Goff are all number one picks who are playing for a different team than the team who drafted them. Both Baker and Jared had perhaps their best season in the NFL last year and Stafford finally won a Super Bowl. Wow, it looks like this is proving Tom Brady correct. College quarterbacks come out as unfinished products and they need to be developed.
At least Jim Rome keeps it fresh. Don't like Cowherd, but he has current guests on.
Sorry Dan I agree with Brady on this one...man never thought I'd agree with Brady on anything but I do think that QBs should sit their rookie year. Mahomes & Rodgers got to sit but just look at the QB-class from 2021, only Trevor Lawrence is still with the team that drafted them. It took Geno Smith how many years before it all clicked for him &maybe Wentz would still be a starter if he could've watched a veteran for a season. The style of play part is the biggest part of it college is influencing the NFL &that wasn't the case when Brady came up. Also organizations want to figure out asap if guys can play or not so I'd say it has more to do with the league changing &front offices being impatient
First round picks only mean that was the best that draft year, it doesn’t mean that they are the best overall. This playing a #1 draft pick because the team leadership drove their situation to not having a QB that can carry the team until the new draft pick time to learn. Dumb down means the don’t give them the entire play book.
Everybody is right.
Never like Tom, but totally agree with him on this. Latest example is Jordan Love.
CJ Stroud
Year 1 - leads franchise to the playoffs
It can be done
Tom Brady is making this all about himself for someone who loves to call himself the goat and claims to love football he sure doesn’t know his football history how does that explain Peyton and Eli manning Ben roethlisberger John elway Terry Bradshaw Russell Wilson they started immediately and eventually won super bowls
mahomes cj dak and brady were amazing as 1st year starters....a top 3 pick need to start...the teams with a qb need like the broncos needs to start a first rounder...elway marino were great too
Mahomes didn't start his first year.
Neither did Brady.
Love DP and always open to what Brady has to say, but Steven A. in a football discussion? I couldn't move on fast enough.
Brady is 100% right
This was a bad take by Dan. It all rest on hindsight Contradictions left and right. Tangled in Christmas lights
I agree with Tom.
Hmmm, who knows more about football; Tom Brady or Doug Patrick or whatever this guy's name is....
Who is Dan Patrick, mouthpiece for the NFL?.
Dan Patrick providing not hot takes but good ones.
I’m respectfully disagree with Dan. It’s not easy to put rookie QBs in starting positions without any credentials and skills.
what Brady is seeing is how dumbed down the game is!
this is why these guys " look good"
they are playing checkers out there!
all you are seeing is the better checkers player...so they appear great
Brady had to learn CHESS in order to be a great starter..
he sees Lamar and he knows.. its checkers... and I bet when he watches film ( something he's infinitely superior to dan patrick at doing and understanding ) he's seeing the lower level of the mental game... how BASIC the O's are now a days..
Tom is flat out wrong here because it’s all situational like it’s always been in the NFL. Tom would’ve been a bust if he had to play year 1 at a bad franchise but he was lucky to be a backup for years to learn and walk into a championship ready team.
It’s all situational and his main gripe should be with the system.
Compare Brock Purdy and first round QB
Purdy was not talented enough to start year 1 and was lucky enough to sit behind 2-3 QBs and learn and it ended with him nearly leading the 9ers to win a SB for the first time in 30 years
A first round QB pick is touted to be talented enough to take an underperforming franchise to win more games and make them competitive and most fail and less succeed.
It’s always been like that. He is wrong to label it as “Today’s NFL”
I never was a fan of this guy, he won cheating. Some of his rings need to be taking away, to criticize beginners instead of giving advice is so stuped. Also he was a diva always complain when he was hit.
You're the one you sounds like a crying diva.
Brady is becoming insufferable and I've yet to hear him call a game.
How?! You think it’s worth it to let rookie qb to jumpstart their starting position? . NO!…. It’s about getting prepared to be the best and consistent.
Right... after all, who would want to hear THE greatest NFL player of all time, kicking ass at 45 years old?🤔🤨🧐🤫
While people may not want mahomes to dominate I will say I hope he does cause we really need brady to feel some heat...he can't retire and be able to say he was the goat every year from now on...dude is too confident in his takes
@@razkable It’s sound like you’re just hating him for his accomplishments and revered him as the student of the game.
This guy is a joke!