The Bulls and Zach Lavine Divorce is About to get Real Messy
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
- Discussing the latest on Zach Lavine and the never ending saga and detiorateting relationship between him and the Chicago Bulls
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The bulls dont owe zach anything, thats what the money was for.
He is definitely #notlikeus
What do you mean? Could you explain it a little bit more please
@@mandala-YIN.YANG- Zach got one of the most player friendly contract of his class and is in fact the reason he is so hard to move. If the bulls can send em to the pistons for draft capitol at this point that's fair game because they already set him up for a wealth he honestly wasn't worth
@@viperstrike0thank you, the shooting guard on the grizzlies has the same contract and he hasn't made a all star team, so zachs contract is not that bad considering guys are getting paid 60 million a year. 😮
@@dariuskelleydk it is bad, if you want to move him. Which Zach requested.
Ive been a Bulls fan 30 years they are the masters in asset mismanagement. It's unfair to place all the blame on Zach. The Bulls failed to put him in position to succeed in favor of going through DeRozan down the stretch of games. He carried the team when they had rosters full of guys who are under 30 and out of the NBA already. With that being said giving a Klutch sports client a max deal comes with shenanigans this was predictable. They are in the business of trying to get their clients to L.A. as long as LeBron is playing.
Can't blame Zach if he opted surgery just to stay away from Detroit. Fr
That’d be the only place he’d be the #1 guy so why not
I think he was actually hurt hurt. It was a bone issue in his foot
He ain't going nowhere. We stuck with him.
detroit r in a better position than chicago and r projected to contend way earlier tbf . perhaps hes worried pistons r gonnantry to flip him
I assume he thought he’d get sent somewhere desirable. Although I think the writing on the wall was there last year, before the injury. When the team is better without you, $40 million plus per year isn’t a great investment. The fact that he’s still here means he doesn’t have value on his current contract.
Ever since he went to Clutch Sports he changed.
Aint that the truth
I’ll admit that but the Fron Office failed Lavine at the same time
Not even remotely true
Partly true, but in reality, he's not a player to build a contender around. The front office made the mistake of signing players like him (scores that require the ball in their hands and didn't play good defense) to complement him. Zack never evolved to becoming a more complete player, either.
There's a reason, besides injuries and the big contact, that other teams are hesitant to trade for a 25 ppg player. Contenders didn't want him and he doesn't want to be traded to bad teams. That's makes it tough for both sides.
@@marcbasillol you don't know nothing about this lol he definitely has
The media tarnished Zach’s career lowkey.
Once the team started 5-14 and then they started winning without him, the media dragged him.
😂Blame the media? Like it has nothing to do with the combination of him always being injured, having a massive overpaid max contract, and him never winning anything in his career.
@@justmyopinion8395 He has been pretty durable playing for us, minus last year. He did do this to himself tho. He has always played like a guy who's main focus was chasing numbers and getting into the all star game. Didnt make guys around him better, just always played selfishly.
To be fair to Zach, he was signed to a max deal but the team was not built around the max player. Zo and Caruso were perfect because they both play defense and Zo is a transitional passer who helped Zach get easy baskets in the open floor. But how can you have 2 players, like Zach and Derozan, who are similar in style, but can't defend. Add a center in Vuc who can't defend. That spells a disaster. If it wasn't for Caruso and Zo, it would have looked even worse. Derozan pretty much stole Zach's role although Zach was given the max. What was the logic in doing that? If you believed in Zach to give him a max, why would you then put him in the background as a #2? It wasn't done when he was putting up 50 to push the Bulls, which is why he got the max. So the team should have been constructed around him.
You now have young athletic players. Patrick should have been given a bigger role but because of the structure he too was pushed in the background. I even believe the current team is better for him and Zach. Zach can now be the lead on a team with role players and you have Giddey and Zo as passers. You can never have enough ball movers on a team. If Zo comes back defensively, he can fill Caruso's role and also be the 3 point specialist. But I don't think the Bulls want any success, tanking to keep that Spurs pick is the goal instead of winning. Why tank when you may have the formula? Try it and see. It may surprise you.
@tangiemarie7330 the fans who defend giving max money to lacrosse players are the real prob.
@@jovetheunstoppable Well the Knicks are paying a #4 option Zach's money as Anunoby is a #4. I put Brunson, Mikal Bridges, and Randle in front of him. I would even say Josh Hart may even be their #4. So you think the Knicks should pay a #4 or 5 the same amount as Zach as Anunoby just signed a $215 million over 5 years?
Giddey qualifies for a max of $215. Say he has a most improved player and comes close to averaging a triple double on a lottery team. Would you give Giddey the max if the team loses more game than they ever did with Zach but he has great numbers?
I never understood when you were saying the Bulls had to give Zach that last contract. He was never a max player and should have been traded the year before his contract was up and we've been stuck looking like fools ever since.
It was either that or let him walk for nothing. Hindsight is always 20/20.
@@thehappyhermit01 na we knew that letting him walk for nothing, was better than maxing him. the slow bb ppl didnt know that like CHGO.. we had enough proof that he wasnt a max player at all.. and he was at best a #3 on a good team.. we knew,. I knew,,
@@ragingoracle6239It was the most obvious thing in the world that letting him walk was best case scenario. That “Let player go for nothing” argument has always been tired. You get the freed up cap space and the opportunity to make change. That’s not “nothing” in my eyes.
@@greedygeniuzletting him walk for nothing doesn't mean you get that cap space to sign someone else so it is a big deal
@@Tonyvontony letting him walk means you never use it.. So you can use it elsewhere ,So one that can carry and be a true #1
Don't care what Lavine or Klutch Sports wants. Send him to Detroit for Taj Gibson and a Jet's Pizza.
LOL
Problem is that nobody on earth wants to go to or live in Detroit. Surprises me that there's an NBA team there yet.
🤣 🤣 🤣 🔥 💀
To be fair to Zach, he was signed to a max deal but the team was not built around the max player. Zo and Caruso were perfect because they both play defense and Zo is a transitional passer who helped Zach get easy baskets in the open floor. But how can you have 2 players, like Zach and Derozan, who are similar in style, but can't defend. Add a center in Vuc who can't defend. That spells a disaster. If it wasn't for Caruso and Zo, it would have looked even worse. Derozan pretty much stole Zach's role although Zach was given the max. What was the logic in doing that? If you believed in Zach to give him a max, why would you then put him in the background as a #2? It wasn't done when he was putting up 50 to push the Bulls, which is why he got the max. So the team should have been constructed around him.
You now have young athletic players. Patrick should have been given a bigger role but because of the structure he too was pushed in the background. I even believe the current team is better for him and Zach. Zach can now be the lead on a team with role players and you have Giddey and Zo as passers. You can never have enough ball movers on a team. If Zo comes back defensively, he can fill Caruso's role and also be the 3 point specialist. But I don't think the Bulls want any success, tanking to keep that Spurs pick is the goal instead of winning. Why tank when you may have the formula? Try it and see. It may surprise you.
@BallGuy-pm8pz bro give it up.
Been watching your channel since the beginning congrats on all the subs. I’m just ready for everyone to move on and see what happens with the new players.
I just can't see a team taking his contract on at this time. I think he would have to come out next season and play at an elite level for the first half of the season consistently for teams to start thinking about trading for him to bolster their playoff rosters.
You can find a team that will take his contract BUT the Bulls will have to take a bad contract in return.😂
@@spaceghost8995people are saying we have to take a bad contract AND give up assets. I’m keeping him before I do that.
Plain and simple. All other teams prefer to wait and see if Lavine will be back as OG Lavine after the surgery. If he be back playing well, money and buzz around him will be no problem. Fact is that nobody respects Chicago right now.
I think you have to play Zach some games to improve his trade stock. If he really wants to be shipped out then play better lol
We tried that last year and he kinda tanked his stock prior to injury. I wouldn't play him at all. Take the L because we aren't getting anything out of Lavine
Agreed cause it's kinda absurd how the league is valuing Zach. He has a max contract which he earned. Not a supermax contract because he is not that superstar. He is a star getting paid star money. It's a difference between max= star, supermax= superstar. Zach is definitely a max= star player.
@@walker1984 but then when he goes to another team and balls out crazy people finna complain and AK finna be the next John paxson
Playing zach at this point is just foolish, Let's just be terrible and let these kids develop. With this upcoming draft, i dont want lavine out there making us good enough to land another wendell carter. We need a star player, and those will not sign with us. Tanking is the only path to get out of this mediocrity
@@swaymcthunder1219 we wouldn't be able to get a Wendell Carter because our pick would go to the Spurs at that point.
Don’t understand why the bulls wouldn’t want to keep a damn scorer…this bulls organization is one sabotaging one…
You play to WIN the game! Lavine has proven time and time again that he is not a winning player. He just ISN'T.
He has had ONE season with a positive net +/- and it was 0.2.
I think on the surface level players like Zach and Trae look impressive but if I'm building a championship team their value is as a 6th man.
Go watch Melo & Dolla’s interview on what goes on behind the scenes… They broke this down PERFECTLY and it’s EXACTLY what Lavine is going through.
It’s not Bulls fault that they can’t find a team who would take his contract
Which interview? Curious
@ashleypowell1722 Bulls can’t get a good deal for anybody because they failed to make trades when everyone’s value was up. We just lost the Caruso trade and let Drummond walk for free… Derozan and Lavine are up next… Have you been paying attention?!!!
@truffboy1263 “Ruthless Business”
@@lilbfrom094princeton8Drummond had no trade value.
I'm not even that opposed if just keep Zach at this point, if no one sees his value is there any point of trading him away just to get his salary out? I feel like realistically whats holding him back is his IQ on the court and that can easily be fixed with better discipline on the court, idk hot take maybe.
Wut…?
@@marcbasil im saying hes still a good player esp if hes not injured, and that the only reason why teams are not actively trading for him is simply due to the CBA rules with teams unwilling to trade simply due to that, thats why u see pg and klay walk from their teams, teams dont wna be punished for taking in too much
Too much Zach hate. Dude is a beast yall will take him for granted. I’d rather see him have a turn around season then see him walk but that’s just me.
Congrats on 40k subs J keep up the great videos
Thanks my man! Appreciate it!
You’re the reason this narrative is out. Lavine will not be selfish come the beginning of the season he’ll play team ball like he did upon his return. He avg damn near a triple double.
THANK YOU. It's like the Eric Andre meme where he shoots Hannibal burress and then asks "why would someone do this"
Im in the minority that still thinks to keep Zach and let him build up his value. I would hate for AK to attach more future first round picks especially when we are trying to rebuild through the draft. I do think Lavine will do what Billy D and his teammates ask of him on the basketball court just the same as how he was trying to facilitate more and not be so ball dominant before he re-injured himself and went for surgery. Let AK and Rich Paul sort out the other stuff and you Zach just worry about what happens on the court. Just my thoughts.
Exactly like you said, I think given the contract Zach is on compared to what others are currently signing… this contract may not look that bad next year or the following year. I think it’s worth trying to rebuild the relationship with Lavine but it seems like it may be too late. I rather Zach Lavine over any of these trade scenarios quite honestly.
They’re just going to have to keep him for the time being. Can’t see any team interested in trading for him.
Zach is being crazt disrespected. Yes, his contract is not favorable. Yes, he has not been who he is expected to be when he signed his MAX deal. But man, I swear teams would rather take on Ben Simmons' contract for example over Zach's contract....
Ben Simmons' contract expires after this reason, Zach has two year left AFTER this season in the age of the second apron.
Zach has more value as a player, but he's not the best player on a top 5 seed team. Ben's contract has more value in getting under the aprons.
Imagine your boss gives you a 200% raise, $40 million a year and you act like you’re being mistreated. Unbelievable.
bro. this team has the stink of death and rot on it. Zach realizes its not only a sinking ship. there is also a bomb ticking down on that same ship and a zombie plague............ o and a meteor is heading straight for it.
To be fair to Zach, he was signed to a max deal but the team was not built around the max player. Zo and Caruso were perfect because they both play defense and Zo is a transitional passer who helped Zach get easy baskets in the open floor. But how can you have 2 players, like Zach and Derozan, who are similar in style, but can't defend. Add a center in Vuc who can't defend. That spells a disaster. If it wasn't for Caruso and Zo, it would have looked even worse. Derozan pretty much stole Zach's role although Zach was given the max. What was the logic in doing that? If you believed in Zach to give him a max, why would you then put him in the background as a #2? It wasn't done when he was putting up 50 to push the Bulls, which is why he got the max. So the team should have been constructed around him.
You now have young athletic players. Patrick should have been given a bigger role but because of the structure he too was pushed in the background. I even believe the current team is better for him and Zach. Zach can now be the lead on a team with role players and you have Giddey and Zo as passers. You can never have enough ball movers on a team. If Zo comes back defensively, he can fill Caruso's role and also be the 3 point specialist. But I don't think the Bulls want any success, tanking to keep that Spurs pick is the goal instead of winning. Why tank when you may have the formula? Try it and see. It may surprise you.
@@BallGuy-pm8pz Ah. Someone else who actually watches the games. Well played. Good Assessment. Zach was never the problem, and if you are going to bench him in favor of DeMar, and Zo is out, he may have looked at the season as a loss and took the surgery to get it over with in time for summer camp. And here people are hating. I never hated on DeMar like that. Even though I see the Obvious.
Didn’t help when he left during the first half of the season the bulls were thriving without him.
If I am the front office, I let Zach go for even a second round pick. As a front office, take it as an L and a LEARNED LESSON. Let Zach go to the team he wants, do him right because the Bulls failed him and he failed us. He will learn too, but let's stop holding him wanting equal or some value. Let him go for almost nothing. Just get him off the team
The money on his contract has to match what we get in return
@@franknitty there has to be a player that has too much money getting paid that we can get for him. I’ll take a Jordan Poole at this point
@@OP_-pk9hm bro I feel you! Shits a mess and we only got 1 roster spot available so like rich Paul said bulls got work to do
@@OP_-pk9hmDamn Jordan Poole? I hope there are some baddies in Chicago.
A lot of people would feel like absolute TRASH at this point if they were in Zach Lavine's shoes... I mean honestly, i can't think of the last time a player was discussed as being so undesirable _league-wide_, it's crazy. You'd think we're talking about a guy who never scored more than 10ppg, had terrible efficiency, AND has a thing for taking a dump in the owners lounge every Sunday. Maybe Lavine's a bit of a dick, idk, but dude better have some seriously thick skin
We shouldn't try to extract value out of teams (2nd round at best) and we absolutely should not give up a pick to get rid of him. If he sucks it up and raises his value its a win win. If he cries and pouts put him at the end of the bench until he changes his attitude. Since we are rebuilding he has NO LEVERAGE at this point
I feel like you nailed it. The thing is, there’s just a difference in being a professional scorer and being a franchise cornerstone that you can build around. It’s felt like the last few years have really shown Zach either doesn’t know/ or has no interest in doing all the things you gotta do to be a cornerstone. I get it, it’s a lot easier to just be a scorer. Sigh. Either way, sad to see Demar go , we didn’t deserve him
Hard to play good when the organization don't know what direction they want to go he was 26 ppg 2 years ago and since then bulls front office was confused lol
Rehab his foot not knee and the doctor's said if he cant handle the pain/discomfort than the only next step is surgery. In the past he's played thru injuries and with how bad he looked to start the season, the injury probably had an effect on his play
He needs to play himself into a trade, reduce his bloated contract, or stay with the Bulls with a good attitude
This is why clippers made the ride decision to let Paul George walk for nothing. It will turn into another Zach lavine situation. Magic giving franz Wagner the max might turn into another Darius garland situation. Cleveland can’t give away Darius for free
how bad of a front office do you have to be to be getting low balled so hard for a player. who despite his flaws and supposed lack of impact on winning (kind of b.s. stat when you happen to be with a garbo organization for most of your prime) is one of the most gifted offensive players in the league. a guy who in the right situations could i believe be a 50-40-90 guy and can score at every lvl.
this guy is clueless, talking about lavine is in his prime, and had injuries before and he got to chicago and they have only gotten worse and hes finna be 30, sorry to let u know the bulls shouldve traded lavine and derozan 2 years ago and now yall will get nothing for both of them 😭😭
The second I hear the news of Zack Lavine getting traded, I will immediately hit up my Bulls friends and schedule a time to link up to smoke a J in celebration of Zack Lavine not being a Bull. There is no question that Zach Lavine is a talented Basketball player, but I am sure I am not the only one that had to try to convince myself I liked Zack Lavine because he was a Bull. I will be checking in on Matas come summer league, please get me hyped.
Let’s get this over with - time for the young Bulls to get going👍
The Knicks just gave a 3 option player, Anunoby, the max or $215 like Zach. Contracts are changing as the Celtics have 2 players making $300 million. This Zach contract is normal now.
I disagree that Zach is going to play selfish basketball when he returns. Did we all forget how he came out after the team started winning when he got injured? He returned looking like a new player, played off-ball, improved his playmaking, played good defence. That's not the signs of someone who's going to blow everything up to play selfish ball.
It would have been nice if you made some trade speculators.
Which contenders can even afford LaVine?
Pacers, Thunder, Warriors? I don't know
This is a good example of fans overvaluing their own players. It went from “no way we are trading Lavine for only 2 picks” to “no way we giving up a 1st just to get off his salary”.
when zach came back the first time, he was great on the court. and there were plenty of rumors then and all that, but he was deferring and not taking crazy shots. what behavior have you seen from him that would imply that it would be different now?
I think it’s part Zach’s injury question marks, but mostly an indictment of the way other teams view the Bulls FO. I just think teams believe they ultimately will give even more to get off the money or potentially agree to a buy out and someone will add him and make the Bulls look very stupid.
It’s crazy how everyone’s acting like he’s trash i hope he lands in a good spot so people can say sorry for the disrespect
This divorce is nasty. Are we gonna have split custody with LaVine? 😂
I think a point missing here is that he is a complete non factor on defense.. sure the scoring is nice but in a league where so much is happening on the wings, things need to be switched and so on he is more of a liability then having an overall positive impact for a winning team
To be fair to Zach, he was signed to a max deal but the team was not built around the max player. Zo and Caruso were perfect because they both play defense and Zo is a transitional passer who helped Zach get easy baskets in the open floor. But how can you have 2 players, like Zach and Derozan, who are similar in style, but can't defend. Add a center in Vuc who can't defend. That spells a disaster. If it wasn't for Caruso and Zo, it would have looked even worse. Derozan pretty much stole Zach's role although Zach was given the max. What was the logic in doing that? If you believed in Zach to give him a max, why would you then put him in the background as a #2? It wasn't done when he was putting up 50 to push the Bulls, which is why he got the max. So the team should have been constructed around him.
You now have young athletic players. Patrick should have been given a bigger role but because of the structure he too was pushed in the background. I even believe the current team is better for him and Zach. Zach can now be the lead on a team with role players and you have Giddey and Zo as passers. You can never have enough ball movers on a team. If Zo comes back defensively, he can fill Caruso's role and also be the 3 point specialist. But I don't think the Bulls want any success, tanking to keep that Spurs pick is the goal instead of winning. Why tank when you may have the formula? Try it and see. It may surprise you.
The bulls should not just trade him just to trade him. They need to find the right deal
Saying what Zach LaVine will do in the next upcoming season if he is not traded is not a good look. You do not know how he will act, those are just assumptions.
Besides if he was playing selfish going into the next season and we are losing, it does not really hurt Chicago. It only hurts the Bulls they begin winning games lo.
But yes I agree he at this point he needs to be traded.
I wouldn't play him at all. Playing him does nothing. Tell Silver that you are respecting Lavine's wishes and trying to deal him. Maybe Adam will buy that we don't want any disgruntled player shenanigans
@@walker1984 Bruh wtf are you saying regarding Adam Silver?!?
I support NEITHER party.
The Bulls were NEVER sold on Lavine being a franchise player.....
YET....
when the Knicks gave the Bulls an out via a trade 2 seasons ago.....the Bulls rejected it.
Plus....
rather that let Lavine go once his contract expired....the Bulls (who they are lukewarm towards) re-signed him.
BUT....
Lavine isn't a victim. Despite his off-season work ethic....he NEVER worked in the mental aspect of the game which is why his passing is mediocre, poor time management and enhancing his game in a way to elevate his teammates.
You can't presume (although you are correct) that, if Zach stayed, he'd play selfish, me-first basketball if he played here this season AND say that he is, or has been, a consummate professional.
Those two things don't go together, and that's why teams don't want him.
He overvalued himself and the Bulls are the only team that fell for it. We outbid the market and ourselves.
We should NEVER have given him that contract.
At this point i wouldn’t mind if the lakers traded for him if it meant getting a FRP back, we need to clear spots anyway
Zach Lavine To The Detroit Pistons Would Be LIT 🔥
For who?
best is to sell and get most money back, a ZLas center for further development seems less wanted
His deal is not bad...top players are making 60-70 million per year
On this Bull teams, Zach would be a #1 as constructed or down the line you will be giving a max to another player who has as you say accomplished nothing but stats. Giddey has a $215 max on the table this year and let's see if he has great stats as "Most Improved," with a triple double year, will they cave or will he walk too with their record worse than what Zach ever did. Would you give it to Giddey if they are a lottery team?
No trade is possible with his current contract and value. LaVine will stay with the Bulls, probably won't get too much minutes though.
Trying build around was the dumbest thing we've ever done, which is saying something
I've always said that was their biggest mistake, building around Zach and pushing for all in moves to keep him happy
The first and ONLY time that they did… We were FIRST in the East.
This front office pisses me off. Bulls fan est. '93 I've watched this team give up on Ron Artest and Lauri Markkanen too early 😠. Should have never given up on Butler. Wouldn't have this problem. Zach can not play with us again. He will be taking touches from Giddey, White. Figure something out.
Curious to see how he performs in a different jersey.
He has all the physical intangibles, but lacks the mental to become a bulls great.
I’ve seen Nate Robinson and Ronnie Brewer play with more heart than this dude.
I’m very excited to see this next bulls chapter led by Coby, Patrick and Giddy. At least the front office finally picked a route. Let’s go Bulls!
Are we sure Zach/Paul aren't trying to finesse where they want to go and the offer is clearly crap so the Bulls are at a standoff? I feel we may be stuck with him.
Probably, I could see that being the case
@@BullsCentral that's exactly what they doing.
@@BullsCentralHe is signed to a huge unfavorable multi-year contract. Clutch has very little leverage to dictate where he goes in this scenario.
😢
Demar just got sign and traded to the kings
There are plenty of trade partners, it's just AK doesn't accept those trades
Time 4@buyout & the bulls front office learn @hard lesson bout paying 4 what could b instead of RESULTS!!!
It’s time for teams to act out. Why not benching him permanently and telling him he simply doesn’t fit the program? If he wants to actually play or be traded he should agree to renegotiate his contract and agree to a 25% discount. He would do it if he cares about his rest of his career. Nobody owes him playing minutes. Just make him a DNP player
Bulls were dumb to give Zach a max and he never delivered as a max player. The lack of interest should be a wake up call to Zach to prove his worth next season. If he wanna throw tantrum and be locker room poison, that is reflective of him as a player. I somehow doubt he will be that dumb.
I still remember before Zach got this deal and most of the fans were in favor of keeping this dude. Well NOT ME! Now look smh.
No team wants to trade for death sentence of a contract. Chicago shot themselves on the foot.
Warriors should trade for him
I remember being so happy when he signed his extension and now he is a cancer to our team what a selfish player smh
Zach planned to get paid and leave Chicago. Every single off court decision he's made since going into the '20-'21 season indicates this. His relationship with the Bulls has always been something of a house of cards. This goes way back to when he signed his initial 80m dollar contract all those years ago. Of course he's always said the right thing and been a professional. But the house of cards began to crumble when his plan to leave...which we'll just call for personal and business reasons...didn't work out as intended. This is the result. And if the Bulls weren't silly for re-signing him to his most recent contract....they would have lost him for nothing otherwise....they were stupid for not trading him the season before last when his value was at an all time high. They could have cleared him and the contract off the books and walked away with a couple players and better yet, a few picks. They did nothing. Management...good management...could see this coming a mile away. From the time they signed him they should have seriously considered trading him. And not for perceived "equal talent." Role players, picks, done. Oh...but this is Bulls management? Nevermind😅😭😅
I can see them trying to say that they are tanking zach value, but I would have to think that falls on deaf ears since the org has come out and said "We want Zach gone," and tanking your own return for a guy is nonsensical.
We should have built around lauri
This is a tweet, not a video.
Except I made it a video
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It blows my mind that somebody like Rich Paul who was able to pressure teams to not draft Bronny James isn't able to find a team that will take Zach's contract.
He doesn't really care about doing that. Plus Lebron is his #1. Of course he's going to take care of his #1's son
I thought the same thing. Just blows my mind.
Please just get DeRozan and Lavine off the team PLEASE
Priority is getting Lavine off the team
Yeah but not for nothing... Anit no way I'm releasing them and then deal with all the fake Bulls fans if we get nothing in return
No MATTER WHAT THEY MUST GO
DeRozan is off the team. Nothing Demar does really has to do with the Bulls unless the Bulls do a sign and trade.
@riveysworld2442 at this point I would be ok with Lavine for nothing. I don't give a damn what fake Bulls fans say because they are not the ones filling the United Center. Casual fans who can't name one player are who's going rn. All in the name of being where Jordan once played. Smh
The fact you’re trying to deny Zach has one of/if not the worst contract in the NBA is delusional. There aren’t 5 contracts in the NBA worse than his
zach was tradedable a lot of teams wanted this guy but the 40 million is the problem
When you have a $212M deal your trying to get off your books, there is no such thing as a bad deal less taking more years and money.. Now if its for a more effective player, then do it. Clutch Sports didnt want him in Detroit and Zach didnt want to be in Detroit so he went for surgery to destroy that deal. Clutch wants there guys in major markets so they gonna hold the Bulls hostage for as long as they can.. If he cant get to eihter coast, no move will happen if they have anything to do with it.. And no matter how you feel about Zach, the League has told you that him at that money is Ludacris. 20/5/5 on losing teams dont mean you great, it means you have the green light.
The fact that you think billy benching zach is ok is why I always disagree with your opinion on his tenure. Name a current player of his caliber that has been benched for a bad shooting game?
You must not remember that game
Get rid of them.. no matter way.. I just say Keep Lonzo and let him retire
Imagine we traded Lavine during that year RUdy Gobert got traded
The Bulls screwed themselves the minute they gave him that contract.
Yup, just like when the Wizards gave Bradley Beal a supermax contract with a no trade clause. It had negative value before the ink dried.
The bulls have given lavine enough opportunity. Time to move on
Just keep him then
Both Zach and the front office is to blame for this messy Breakup
so what let it get messy its entertainment 🍾
Whatever you do take your negative energy and don’t bring it to Chicago Bears cause we got a lot of good defensive players and we got a lot of good office players not sure what we really got because everything looks good on paper but just keep your negative mine somewhere else real Chicago Bears, Chicago Bulls, Chicago White Sox fans don’t need Joe crazy Negative vibes if I go to the United center and pay for a ticket, I want my team to at least have some stars playing basketball for me to root for if the chemistry ain’t working and we lose well I will still be more happy that I at least had entertainment versus aunwatchable game I hope that makes sense
If the 1st is still attached then there is a growing voice to trade him to LA.
No the Lakers would be giving up the pick😂
It's the same organisation who treated MJ with disrespect. So, what's new
Was a dick move from him and nobody gonna win. What a douche.
Keep him……
I love Lavine and I hope he stays. You’ve always been a hater towards him though.
klutch
I was around in 1991 1 to 1998 when we won all those championships I’m 57 years old. I remember when we had garbage basketball play after garbage play until we got some remarkable recruiters who knew how to draft good talent these guys are garbage as well as you being garbage, not understanding that they are garbage and drafting. I’m starting to see the AK got lucky with joker and others. His assistant the one that’s doing the trades. He made some good trades but rebuilding means Making good decisions in the draft
AK have not been good and drafts
P Williams has not turned out good even though he’s paying him like he has Jaylin Terry garbage second Round pics, so so
I don’t trust this current group of failures no more than I trusted the less group of failures to draft future stars
Their moves, Alonzo Ball
DeMar DeRozan Nikola Vucevic
May by other guy
You have to get behind re tool
Or get off CZcams
Er…..wat..?
Dude you realize you are part of the reason why public perception of lavine isnt good right? Own fanbase is trashing lavine whos been given shit for 7 yrs and simultaneously praising the best teammate hes had is a 34 yr old journeyman who was never a winner before the bulls got here.
Ive always liked your takes otherwise but your obsession with demar and this raging hatred against lavine is not something thats gone unnoticed. So to hear you call anyone saying lavines deal the worst in the league "annoying" feels disingenuous at best because you are part of the reason why that idea is in their heads in the 1st place. Do better
I’ve given my share of criticism for both . The difference is Demar has shown well up on and off the court by mentoring the young players. You can’t say that about Zach
@BullsCentral What you mentioned is just one aspect and he does have a point. Zach didn’t get paid to mentor anybody, that’s not his job. Zach got paid to put to score the damn ball. Being asked to mentor the young guys sounds like the Bulls were never serious about contending so I can understand Lavine’s frustration… The Bulls said one thing but did another. We were first in the east when we put a winning roster around Lavine. That was the ONLY time. So this is what’s going to happen… We’re going to revisit this mid season if Lavine is healthy and is on a better roster. We’re about to see if Lavine is all of these things.
@@BullsCentral lmao bro I have watched damn near every video you've made for the last year and a half because i do think you have great takes otherwise. But if there's any videos you made criticizing demar they damn sure weren't on YT. And if they were, they certainly werent whole videos dedicated to cutting him down like you have for zach
Sorry bro but Lavine is definitely on one of the worst contracts in the league. If that wasn’t the case they wouldn’t have any problems moving him. Just look at all of the players that were given massive contracts recently.
What’s Zach issue the bulls paid him to do nothing win nothing!! I’m confused
4:39 if u dont tryst dude why are u making a video on it. Lol
Because I can?
@@BullsCentral u literally said take it with a grain of salt and u don't trust dude. U could've made a video on sum with basis lol
I agree. Zach can never play another game for the Bulls.